Command Tower is not "strictly" better. It isn't even better, because the cards do two wholly different things. They're not even on the same scale. One is mana fixing, the other is commander buffing. They're both really, really good at what they do.
For example, I built a monoblue Thassa deck. Command Tower does nothing for my deck that an Island won't already do. So I don't need it. And it would just decrease the Island count. (Shackles, etc.) Opal Palace can also only give me blue, but I'd be including it for the awesome second ability. Thassa's already insanely hard to remove, now she just kills quicker.
Big fan of opal palace. Wish you could get a foil copy, though.. cause that art is awesome.
Pretty sweet blink commander.
My friend's mono-black deck is going to love price of knowledge.
they made a Judge Foil promo of Command Tower, and this is MUCH more Rainbowy artwork
I believe they had Oversized Promos of every Legend that didn't start with an Oversized Promo for Commander Pre-Releases in 2011.
I don't think Opal Palace is worth a Judge Foil, but if you can look me in the face and bet me that they won't foil it out in SOME promo or another, I'll shake on it.
I am probably every color-combination it is possible to be, though it's really hard to figure out what it would mean to be 4-colored....it doesn't seem logical to be 4-colored without being 5-colored.
people upset with price of knowledge haven't considered it could be cast almost immediately after forced fruition. With Nekusar even.
I'm not specially upset with the card in the abstract, but I really don't see a reason to run it over, say:
Reliquary Tower + Megrim
or Spellbook + Megrim
or Spellbook + Black Vise
all of those are cheaper to cast, and I would to do incremental pain over time with this type of effect, as I just don't see it as a game-winning "Moment Maker" where you play, like Tibalt, the Fiend-Blooded and one-shot someone's life total because they held back too many lands...or because they can't cast all their spells.....yah, that's not something you will see.
You'll most likely get 4 or less damage per player per trigger. Playing this kind of thing late game, either where people have low life totals or *some* cards in hand because they're playing Control or MaRos, could draw you hate from the board, not a lot but some? *And* later game is when I foresee lifelink tokens and Life Total Switchers coming out to interfere....
Going for the soft, couple points of ping at a point when people have high life totals is the best way to make sure few people can play around it, and the ones who do spend and A/E destroy effect on you, will just be spending a card they will later learn they needed against something else....
Effect is Good, Mana Cost, me-no-likey.
(And: If you plan to run Forced Fruition + Nekusar + this, that is very much like wanting to play Akroma, Angel of Wrath + Bladewing the Risen + Malfegor + Demonic Tutor + Scourge of Valkas + Armageddon + Animate Dead + Worldgorger Dragon + .... + ...... etc. etc. Busted Kaalia Stuff. If you make it too obvious people will just come after you HARD.)
(Those weren't all the same combo-- two combos, three obviously turbo-charged singles, + Malfegor)
I am probably every color-combination it is possible to be, though it's really hard to figure out what it would mean to be 4-colored....it doesn't seem logical to be 4-colored without being 5-colored.
Poor Rubinia is getting retired it seems. More blink please. Since the spoilers are almost half done, it doesn't seem like there is going to be any new blink spells to compliment it unfortunately.
Welp, that settles it: I want the Bant Commander deck. Derevi was my favorite of the face cards already, but a true blue flicker commander in the colors of Eternal Witness, Thragtusk, Mulldrifter, and Stonehorn Dignitary? YES!
I love the new Command Tower land too, although it saddens me that it doesn't work with Karn. Still, I'll be needing plenty...even mono-colored Commanders are going to want one of those.
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What memory issues, exactly? If you're talking about Opal Palace, you should already be keeping track of the number of times your commander has been played because of the Commander Tax.
The decks are 3-color, and Command Tower is the only land that supports three colors with no drawbacks.
I will be beyond shocked if it is not in all 5 decks-
they know the world needs more of them,
and there's no good reason *not* to include it-
It's not exactly selling expansion packs.
hey man you could be right and i hope you are, i've just gotta hunch that this common rarity commander based land is gonna replace the old common rarity commander based land
Am I the only one what wants to go Voltron with Roon? He's the only Legenary creature with (unconditional) Trample and Vigilance that doesn't cost a million mana . . . .
Am I the only one what wants to go Voltron with Roon? He's the only Legenary creature with (unconditional) Trample and Vigilance that doesn't cost a million mana . . . .
In Bant, however, you have Rafiq of the Many swinging for 8+ a turn earlier, or Jenara, Asura of War coming in for 5+ a turn earlier than that with built-in real evasion, or Derevi, Empyrial Tactician being all uncounterable and flashy and immune to commander tax and full of flying. So I think I, and most players, are more excited to focus on Roon's unique flickering qualities since Bant is already the best flickering shard.
So, yeah, you may be the only one
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The decks are 3-color, and Command Tower is the only land that supports three colors with no drawbacks.
I will be beyond shocked if it is not in all 5 decks-
they know the world needs more of them,
and there's no good reason *not* to include it-
It's not exactly selling expansion packs.
It's rarity is common so it will be in all 5 decks.
Kind of wish Roon returned the creature instantly.
Do you have any idea how beautifully his abilities work with each other?
Swing with Roon. He has vigilance so he doesn't tap. If he is assigned a blocker, tap to exile the blocker. Then all of his damage tramples over, even though he is blocked (see rulings on Curtain of Light).
Having the creature return immediately would just resort in degenerate unfun combos.
hey man you could be right and i hope you are, i've just gotta hunch that this common rarity commander based land is gonna replace the old common rarity commander based land
In a sense, you're right- this is the new, Common land for all decks.
However, Command Tower is now a Reprint, and there's really no reason they can't replace a basic land with one just to make the decks more attractive.
They still need to print the CA art in nonfoil, at that.
Momir Vig, Simic Visionary
Melek, Izzet Paragon
Oona, Queen of the Fae
Bruna, Light of Alabaster
Gisela, Blade of Goldnight
Rhys the Redeemed
Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord
Sen Triplets
The Mimeoplasm WUBRGSliver OverlordGRBUW WUBRGSliver Hivelord(Superfriends)GRBUW
In a sense, you're right- this is the new, Common land for all decks.
However, Command Tower is now a Reprint, and there's really no reason they can't replace a basic land with one just to make the decks more attractive.
They still need to print the CA art in nonfoil, at that.
For example, I built a monoblue Thassa deck. Command Tower does nothing for my deck that an Island won't already do. So I don't need it. And it would just decrease the Island count. (Shackles, etc.) Opal Palace can also only give me blue, but I'd be including it for the awesome second ability. Thassa's already insanely hard to remove, now she just kills quicker.
they made a Judge Foil promo of Command Tower, and this is MUCH more Rainbowy artwork
I believe they had Oversized Promos of every Legend that didn't start with an Oversized Promo for Commander Pre-Releases in 2011.
I don't think Opal Palace is worth a Judge Foil, but if you can look me in the face and bet me that they won't foil it out in SOME promo or another, I'll shake on it.
People need to read this fanfiction, though:
www.hpmor.com
I am probably every color-combination it is possible to be, though it's really hard to figure out what it would mean to be 4-colored....it doesn't seem logical to be 4-colored without being 5-colored.
Return back to regular bounce?
Blinking archtypes also share colors with bounce.
I'm not specially upset with the card in the abstract, but I really don't see a reason to run it over, say:
Reliquary Tower + Megrim
or Spellbook + Megrim
or Spellbook + Black Vise
all of those are cheaper to cast, and I would to do incremental pain over time with this type of effect, as I just don't see it as a game-winning "Moment Maker" where you play, like Tibalt, the Fiend-Blooded and one-shot someone's life total because they held back too many lands...or because they can't cast all their spells.....yah, that's not something you will see.
You'll most likely get 4 or less damage per player per trigger. Playing this kind of thing late game, either where people have low life totals or *some* cards in hand because they're playing Control or MaRos, could draw you hate from the board, not a lot but some? *And* later game is when I foresee lifelink tokens and Life Total Switchers coming out to interfere....
Going for the soft, couple points of ping at a point when people have high life totals is the best way to make sure few people can play around it, and the ones who do spend and A/E destroy effect on you, will just be spending a card they will later learn they needed against something else....
Effect is Good, Mana Cost, me-no-likey.
(And: If you plan to run Forced Fruition + Nekusar + this, that is very much like wanting to play Akroma, Angel of Wrath + Bladewing the Risen + Malfegor + Demonic Tutor + Scourge of Valkas + Armageddon + Animate Dead + Worldgorger Dragon + .... + ...... etc. etc. Busted Kaalia Stuff. If you make it too obvious people will just come after you HARD.)
(Those weren't all the same combo-- two combos, three obviously turbo-charged singles, + Malfegor)
People need to read this fanfiction, though:
www.hpmor.com
I am probably every color-combination it is possible to be, though it's really hard to figure out what it would mean to be 4-colored....it doesn't seem logical to be 4-colored without being 5-colored.
EDH Decks:
B Toshiro Umezawa B
W Mikaeus, the Lunarch W
G Azusa, Lost but Seeking G
UB Grimgrin, Corpse-Born BU
BGU The Mimeoplasm UGB
GUW Rubinia Soulsinger WUG
GRB Sek'Kuar, Deathkeeper BRG
Add Possibility Storm to avoid a Naturalize or Disenchant on your Price of Knowledge and to add more fun to the game...
UTefferiU
UBGrimGrinUB
BROliviaBR
WBRKaaliaWBR
WBGKaradorWBG
WRGUrilWRG
WUBRGSliver QueenWUBRG
I love the new Command Tower land too, although it saddens me that it doesn't work with Karn. Still, I'll be needing plenty...even mono-colored Commanders are going to want one of those.
RCRDaretti: Superfriends Forever RCR
WGBDoran: Ent-mootWBG
GGGMultani: Group Bear HugGGG
GB(B/G)The Gitrog Monster: Dredgefall DurdleGB(B/G)
RGWGahiji, the Honored Group Hug MonsterRGW
UB(U/B)Yuriko, Ninja Trinket AggroUB(U/B)
WUBRGAtogatog: Assembling a OHKOWUBRG
What memory issues, exactly? If you're talking about Opal Palace, you should already be keeping track of the number of times your commander has been played because of the Commander Tax.
Bant flicker commander is perfect. I also enjoy the cartoon-ish art stile. It's a nice change from all the super detailed stuff lately.
hey man you could be right and i hope you are, i've just gotta hunch that this common rarity commander based land is gonna replace the old common rarity commander based land
I think that's a viable Plan B, or possibly Plan A, since he's got decent stats and is in the color of various equipment tutors (Enlightened Tutor, Stoneforge Mystic, Stonehewer Giant, Fabricate) and strong auras like Angelic Destiny, Steel of the Godhead, and Shield of the Oversoul.
In Bant, however, you have Rafiq of the Many swinging for 8+ a turn earlier, or Jenara, Asura of War coming in for 5+ a turn earlier than that with built-in real evasion, or Derevi, Empyrial Tactician being all uncounterable and flashy and immune to commander tax and full of flying. So I think I, and most players, are more excited to focus on Roon's unique flickering qualities since Bant is already the best flickering shard.
So, yeah, you may be the only one
RCRDaretti: Superfriends Forever RCR
WGBDoran: Ent-mootWBG
GGGMultani: Group Bear HugGGG
GB(B/G)The Gitrog Monster: Dredgefall DurdleGB(B/G)
RGWGahiji, the Honored Group Hug MonsterRGW
UB(U/B)Yuriko, Ninja Trinket AggroUB(U/B)
WUBRGAtogatog: Assembling a OHKOWUBRG
It's rarity is common so it will be in all 5 decks.
GVorinclexG -- RGodoR -- BSheoldredB -- UTalrandU -- WDarienW -- XKarnX -- WRBKaaliaBRW -- RUGMaelstrom WandererGUR
Do you have any idea how beautifully his abilities work with each other?
Swing with Roon. He has vigilance so he doesn't tap. If he is assigned a blocker, tap to exile the blocker. Then all of his damage tramples over, even though he is blocked (see rulings on Curtain of Light).
Having the creature return immediately would just resort in degenerate unfun combos.
In a sense, you're right- this is the new, Common land for all decks.
However, Command Tower is now a Reprint, and there's really no reason they can't replace a basic land with one just to make the decks more attractive.
They still need to print the CA art in nonfoil, at that.
Reprint Stasis!
Control needs more love.
EDH:
Momir Vig, Simic Visionary
Melek, Izzet Paragon
Oona, Queen of the Fae
Bruna, Light of Alabaster
Gisela, Blade of Goldnight
Rhys the Redeemed
Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord
Sen Triplets
The Mimeoplasm
WUBRGSliver OverlordGRBUW
WUBRGSliver Hivelord(Superfriends)GRBUW
i agree
YYYYYYEEEEEESSSSSS i was wrong!!!!
check out my foil alters
http://s79.photobucket.com/user/gruffigummi/library/Foil Alters?sort=3&page=1
I already have. It works so well with things like Mimic Vat & Seance.
GWBKarador, Necrotic Ooze SubthemeBWG