It's a bit odd that the deck boxes are colored WUBRG, and yet the "Grixis" deck, with black at its center, has the blue box.
Just because black is at it's central color doesn't mean it hasn't to be the central color to the deck's strategy. In fact, not having black as the central color is a good way to mix up the strategy and differentiate from commander decks already out there base on the Alara grixis legendaries.
Also, the revealed commander for the grixis deck already appears to have blue as the central color to her strategy, as she mills and casts instants and sorceries for free. Both of which are primary in blue I believe.
As a LGS owner I can tell you that presells are limited for the simple fact that we have no idea on allocations yet. Hopefully it's not another Arsenal fiasco. I've promised my regs that sign up for a set no higher than SRP, hopefully lower. Just an FYI...
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As a LGS owner I can tell you that presells are limited for the simple fact that we have no idea on allocations yet. Hopefully it's not another Arsenal fiasco. I've promised my regs that sign up for a set no higher than SRP, hopefully lower. Just an FYI...
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Need more life blood injecting into these colour combinations, no one wants none foil copy of the invasion dragons (who are all super lame compared to most legends these days).
I most certainly would like to have foil and modern-frame copies of the legendary dragons from Invasion, and would pay great amounts to obtain such cards, if ever such cards were printed, so please do not speak as if everyone here shares your opinion on this subject.
The wedges and enemy colors need far more love than the shards and ally colors.
WotC focused on the "wedge" colors in the previous Commander set, so they are now focusing on the "shard" colors in this set, as that is a fair tactic. I believe that they should focus on each two- and three-color combination equally, and not display favoritism toward any one or several particular color combinations.
What if instead of the invasion dragons we get a new cycle of them, (Prossh being the jund one)? If that's the case I'm calling the Shards of Alara legends to be the return generals.
Yes, that is possible, but I dearly would like to see the Invasion dragons reprinted, simply to obtain a copy of Dromar in the new card frame, since I already have the other four in the modern style; plus, if the Planar Chaos dragons were reprinted in the first Commander set, I believe that the chances are very good for the Invasion dragons being in this set (it is not guaranteed, of course, but it is still highly likely, in my mind). Also, Prossh and Jeleva are more likely to be akin to such legendary creatures as The Mimeoplasm, Damia, Sage of Stone, Kaalia of the Vast, Riku of Two Reflections, and so forth; i.e., the central legendary creatures of each deck.
Dromar would be better if he didn't bounce himself 3/5th of the time, but yeah, he has his uses. Crosis and Darigaaz are not complete rubbish.
Rith is the bees' knees. If he activates even once in a multiplayer environment, good things just about always follow for you.
But Treva? Rubbish card is rubbish.
There was only one cycle of commanders printed in the last release, and we already know there's going to be the cycle of tax commanders this time around. I wouldn't bet on seeing the shard dragons again, but I'll be pretty disappointed if they do get reprinted. As diverse as the tax commanders are likely to be, having two cycles would just be plain boring.
There was only one cycle of commanders printed in the last release, and we already know there's going to be the cycle of tax commanders this time around. I wouldn't bet on seeing the shard dragons again, but I'll be pretty disappointed if they do get reprinted. As diverse as the tax commanders are likely to be, having two cycles would just be plain boring.
In the previous Commander set, there were ten new three-color legendary creatures, plus five reprinted three-color legendary creatures (the dragons from Planar Chaos); therefore, I believe that it is safe to presume that this set shall also feature ten new three-color legendary creatures, plus five reprinted legendary creatures, and I am guessing that the reprinted creatures shall be the legendary dragons from Invasion, as that would seem to be the most logical and sensible tactic for WotC to employ for this set, in my mind.
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In the previous Commander set, there were ten new three-color legendary creatures, plus five reprinted three-color legendary creatures (the dragons from Planar Chaos); therefore, I believe that it is safe to presume that this set shall also feature ten new three-color legendary creatures, plus five reprinted legendary creatures, and I am guessing that the reprinted creatures shall be the legendary dragons from Invasion, as that would seem to be the most logical and sensible tactic for WotC to employ for this set, in my mind.
How are the dragons from Invasion more logical than the legends from Shards block? I think at this point both stand an equal chance of being reprinted.
How are the dragons from Invasion more logical than the legends from Shards block? I think at this point both stand an equal chance of being reprinted.
1. They just did the wedge dragons last Commander set. Seems like a logical next step to do the ones that inspired the printing of those ones in the first place.
2. Wizards set an arbitrary mythic quota on these last time: the two new generals in each wedge were mythic, plus each deck got one additional mythic somewhere else in the deck. Since we can assume that the two new shard legends in each deck will be mythic, that would leave one other spot in each deck, and I can't imagine they'd want to clutter that in all of them with another cycle. I could see maybe one of them showing up, but all of them? Not probable.
3. They just did Rafiq, Sharuum, and Kresh in FTV Legends. I can't see them reprinting them AGAIN so soon when there are other legends in those colors that could actually use a reprint (if they were going to use Shards legends, why not the ones from Alara Reborn? Thraximundar, Jenara, Sen Triplets, Karrthus, and Uril haven't seen reprint anywhere and are all pretty popular generals in both Duel Commander and Commander proper).
4. I'm still holding out hope for new frame, new art versions of the original Elder Dragons. Doesn't seem likely, but it'd be a neat way to acknowledge the origins of the format. Also, I miss rampage.
1. They just did the wedge dragons last Commander set. Seems like a logical next step to do the ones that inspired the printing of those ones in the first place.
2. Wizards set an arbitrary mythic quota on these last time: the two new generals in each wedge were mythic, plus each deck got one additional mythic somewhere else in the deck. Since we can assume that the two new shard legends in each deck will be mythic, that would leave one other spot in each deck, and I can't imagine they'd want to clutter that in all of them with another cycle. I could see maybe one of them showing up, but all of them? Not probable.
3. They just did Rafiq, Sharuum, and Kresh in FTV Legends. I can't see them reprinting them AGAIN so soon when there are other legends in those colors that could actually use a reprint (if they were going to use Shards legends, why not the ones from Alara Reborn? Thraximundar, Jenara, Sen Triplets, Karrthus, and Uril haven't seen reprint anywhere and are all pretty popular generals in both Duel Commander and Commander proper).
4. I'm still holding out hope for new frame, new art versions of the original Elder Dragons. Doesn't seem likely, but it'd be a neat way to acknowledge the origins of the format. Also, I miss rampage.
I don't know if you can count over 2 years ago as something they "just did"
But I'm with you on the ARB legends. Those would be stellar reprints!
Especially with the value on cards like Sen Triplets and Thrax slooowly increasing, it'd be nice to get them to more players.
Exactly, lol. I thought the same thing last year.
Every few months he rises a quarter or fifty cents.
If someone were to tell me Thrax would be a ~9 dollar card and a ~20+ dollar foil when he came out I'd have laughed at them lol
Wizards wants to get more people to play, they won't have flagship rares have upkeep costs and be underpowered as most of the original Elder Dragons are.
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Wizards wants to get more people to play, they won't have flagship rares have upkeep costs and be underpowered as most of the original Elder Dragons are.
They could always put the originals in as uncommons. Give them all new artwork that makes them look as old as Bolas did in his original card.
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Wizards wants to get more people to play, they won't have flagship rares have upkeep costs and be underpowered as most of the original Elder Dragons are.
They might just be included in the deck though, you never know. I collect legendaries, so any and all legendaries and more than welcome. I need a new Chromium anyways.
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I look forward to the stories I will hear.
And more so to the ones I will watch unfold first hand.
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I dont know why people are saying that they wont reprint the invasion cycle dragons. Yes most are underpowered compared to other creatures,but its not like Oros is such a greatttt card
I dont know why people are saying that they wont reprint the invasion cycle dragons. Yes most are underpowered compared to other creatures,but its not like Oros is such a greatttt card
I agree; in my mind, among the Planar Chaos dragons, Numot, Vorosh, and Teneb are my favorites, while I do not care very much for Intet or Oros.
Also, I do agree that it would be great to have any legendary creatures from the Alara block (most notably Sen Triplets or Uril, the Miststalker), to increase their supply and decrease their prices, but those cards are still fairly recent, while the Invasion dragons are much older than are they, and, as I said before, Dromar is the only one of those dragons who has not yet been reprinted in the new card frame, so why should WotC not reprint him, when they have reprinted the other four?
I agree; in my mind, among the Planar Chaos dragons, Numot, Vorosh, and Teneb are my favorites, while I do not care very much for Intet or Oros.
Also, I do agree that it would be great to have any legendary creatures from the Alara block (most notably Sen Triplets or Uril, the Miststalker), to increase their supply and decrease their prices, but those cards are still fairly recent, while the Invasion dragons are much older than are they, and, as I said before, Dromar is the only one of those dragons who has not yet been reprinted in the new card frame, so why should WotC not reprint him, when they have reprinted the other four?
Yeah, I am super excited for modern boarder Dromar
Just because black is at it's central color doesn't mean it hasn't to be the central color to the deck's strategy. In fact, not having black as the central color is a good way to mix up the strategy and differentiate from commander decks already out there base on the Alara grixis legendaries.
Also, the revealed commander for the grixis deck already appears to have blue as the central color to her strategy, as she mills and casts instants and sorceries for free. Both of which are primary in blue I believe.
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Good Guy LGS owner right here.
I get to watch great leaders, terrible oppressors, and trend setters rise and fall.
Limited, Standard, Modern, everything is a different playing field I feel I can observe, but will not actually touch.
I look forward to the stories I will hear.
And more so to the ones I will watch unfold first hand.
Isn't the unknown exciting?
I most certainly would like to have foil and modern-frame copies of the legendary dragons from Invasion, and would pay great amounts to obtain such cards, if ever such cards were printed, so please do not speak as if everyone here shares your opinion on this subject.
WotC focused on the "wedge" colors in the previous Commander set, so they are now focusing on the "shard" colors in this set, as that is a fair tactic. I believe that they should focus on each two- and three-color combination equally, and not display favoritism toward any one or several particular color combinations.
Yes, that is possible, but I dearly would like to see the Invasion dragons reprinted, simply to obtain a copy of Dromar in the new card frame, since I already have the other four in the modern style; plus, if the Planar Chaos dragons were reprinted in the first Commander set, I believe that the chances are very good for the Invasion dragons being in this set (it is not guaranteed, of course, but it is still highly likely, in my mind). Also, Prossh and Jeleva are more likely to be akin to such legendary creatures as The Mimeoplasm, Damia, Sage of Stone, Kaalia of the Vast, Riku of Two Reflections, and so forth; i.e., the central legendary creatures of each deck.
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In the previous Commander set, there were ten new three-color legendary creatures, plus five reprinted three-color legendary creatures (the dragons from Planar Chaos); therefore, I believe that it is safe to presume that this set shall also feature ten new three-color legendary creatures, plus five reprinted legendary creatures, and I am guessing that the reprinted creatures shall be the legendary dragons from Invasion, as that would seem to be the most logical and sensible tactic for WotC to employ for this set, in my mind.
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How are the dragons from Invasion more logical than the legends from Shards block? I think at this point both stand an equal chance of being reprinted.
1. They just did the wedge dragons last Commander set. Seems like a logical next step to do the ones that inspired the printing of those ones in the first place.
2. Wizards set an arbitrary mythic quota on these last time: the two new generals in each wedge were mythic, plus each deck got one additional mythic somewhere else in the deck. Since we can assume that the two new shard legends in each deck will be mythic, that would leave one other spot in each deck, and I can't imagine they'd want to clutter that in all of them with another cycle. I could see maybe one of them showing up, but all of them? Not probable.
3. They just did Rafiq, Sharuum, and Kresh in FTV Legends. I can't see them reprinting them AGAIN so soon when there are other legends in those colors that could actually use a reprint (if they were going to use Shards legends, why not the ones from Alara Reborn? Thraximundar, Jenara, Sen Triplets, Karrthus, and Uril haven't seen reprint anywhere and are all pretty popular generals in both Duel Commander and Commander proper).
4. I'm still holding out hope for new frame, new art versions of the original Elder Dragons. Doesn't seem likely, but it'd be a neat way to acknowledge the origins of the format. Also, I miss rampage.
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I don't know if you can count over 2 years ago as something they "just did"
But I'm with you on the ARB legends. Those would be stellar reprints!
Especially with the value on cards like Sen Triplets and Thrax slooowly increasing, it'd be nice to get them to more players.
Woah, when did Thrax get so expensive?
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Exactly, lol. I thought the same thing last year.
Every few months he rises a quarter or fifty cents.
If someone were to tell me Thrax would be a ~9 dollar card and a ~20+ dollar foil when he came out I'd have laughed at them lol
Wizards wants to get more people to play, they won't have flagship rares have upkeep costs and be underpowered as most of the original Elder Dragons are.
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They could always put the originals in as uncommons. Give them all new artwork that makes them look as old as Bolas did in his original card.
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They might just be included in the deck though, you never know. I collect legendaries, so any and all legendaries and more than welcome. I need a new Chromium anyways.
I get to watch great leaders, terrible oppressors, and trend setters rise and fall.
Limited, Standard, Modern, everything is a different playing field I feel I can observe, but will not actually touch.
I look forward to the stories I will hear.
And more so to the ones I will watch unfold first hand.
Isn't the unknown exciting?
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I agree; in my mind, among the Planar Chaos dragons, Numot, Vorosh, and Teneb are my favorites, while I do not care very much for Intet or Oros.
Also, I do agree that it would be great to have any legendary creatures from the Alara block (most notably Sen Triplets or Uril, the Miststalker), to increase their supply and decrease their prices, but those cards are still fairly recent, while the Invasion dragons are much older than are they, and, as I said before, Dromar is the only one of those dragons who has not yet been reprinted in the new card frame, so why should WotC not reprint him, when they have reprinted the other four?
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Possibly during Pro Tour Theros, maybe?
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Yeah, I am super excited for modern boarder Dromar
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I am very glad to learn that I am not the only user here who is seeking such a card to be printed.
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I'm hoping that when they reprint them, they use promo art.
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