Over at Reddit user Deriums posted 6 videos of him opening the pre-release boxes (1 of each color then 1 of him opening 5 new boxes). Looks like the only mythic rare you can get is your god and you do get an additional rare besides the promo in your seeded pack and that rare can be a mixture (example you can get a Polis Crusher in the Red or Green packs as it shares a color and he got a Fleecemane Lion in a green pack) of colors. Your seeded pack is also skewed slightly to the color pack you pick but nowhere near the degree the guild-packs were.
Unfortunately no Thoughtseizes were pulled for people wanting to know.
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I was going white from the get-go just because I like the Archon and want the enchantment border in foil.
We'll have to wait till Saturday/Sunday to get all the data (unless more card-shops upload unboxing videos) but it's possible to be 1/8 like the Ravnica pre-releases.
Is the Spoiler missing a Black Rare? It lists black as having 36 cards while every other color has 37. And Black seems to be short a rare.
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I can't believe anyone is excited about this card. It is absolutely unplayable. I wouldn't even play her in LIMITED. Easily the worst walker printed since the green elf one. Absolutely terrible.
If Thoughtseize is one of the possibilities, Black has the best EV by quite a bit, but if it isn't then Red is the best financial choice by my corner-of-the-napkin calculations.
From what I saw from the videos, I think that I could probably make an educated guess as to what rares you can get in the pre-release packs. These are my predictions, and if more info/openings are released, I will update this post.
White:
Chained to the Rocks
Fabled Hero
Gift of Immortality
Hundred-Handed One
Soldier of the Pantheon
Spear of Heliod
Heliod, God of the Sun
Anax and Cymede
Daxos of Meletis
Fleecemane Lion
Triad of Fates
Blue:
Artisan of Forms
Curse of the Swine
Meletis Charlatan
Prognostic Sphinx
Swan Song
Thassa, God of the Sea
Bident of Thassa
Daxos of Meletis
Prophet of Kruphix
Psychic Intrusion
Steam Augury
Black:
Agent of the Fates
Hero's Downfall
Nighthowler
Thoughtseize
Whip of Erebos
Erebos, God of the Dead
Psychic Intrusion
Reaper of the Wilds
Triad of Fates
Tymaret, the Murder King
Red:
Anger of the Gods
Firedrinker Satyr
Labyrinth Champion
Rageblood Shaman
Titan of Eternal Fire
Hammer of Purphoros
Purphoros, God of the Forge
Anax and Cymede
Polis Crusher
Steam Augury
Tymaret, the Murder King
Green:
Arbor Colossus
Boon Satyr
Mistcutter Hydra
Reverent Hunter
Sylvan Caryatid
Bow of Nylea
Nylea, God of the Hunt
Fleecemane Lion
Polis Crusher
Prophet of Kruphix
Reaper of the Wilds
The important question is if there are exactly 8 distinct seeded packs for each color. Ie if you open Bident of Thassa, you will have exactly X, Y, Z... specific other cards in that pack.
The important question is if there are exactly 8 distinct seeded packs for each color. Ie if you open Bident of Thassa, you will have exactly X, Y, Z... specific other cards in that pack.
People need to take note of whats in their packs. If it turns out to be that way (and I'd expect it to be, since RTR/GTC was), then we can expect it going forward in any "gimmick" packs until we see otherwise.
Damn, knowing that I could pull Erebos is making me want to go Ambition, but I already opted to go Wisdom because I feel that the cards I could get from it would be better in the prerelease.
Admittedly, this is speculation, but it's founded in WOTC "balancing" pre-release options.
Each color has access to 4 guild rares. If we assume:
1) Each color can only be assigned 2 of the gold rares as options in their prerelase pack, and
2) That the prerelease card will not be the second rare/mythic in the prerelease pack
Then black would have to have Thoughtseize as one of their 8 prerelease pack options..
Black only has access to 10 rares in the set, either mono or guild colored.
Black would lose the 2 guild colored rares that show up in other colors (e.g. Triad of the Fates and Reaper of the Wilds)
Black couldn't pull Abhorrent Overlord.
That leaves black with only 7 rares, plus the chance to pull Erebos. Thoughtseize hunters? The math tells you 'game on'.
Additionally:
It would stand to reason that they cycle the Gatecrash guilds through the Prerelease packs. If Polis Crusher is in green, then it would mean:
Anax and Cymede is in Red
Triad of Fates is in White
Psychic Intrusion is in Black (confirmed)
Prophet of Kruphix is in Blue
Admittedly, this is speculation, but it's founded in WOTC "balancing" pre-release options.
Each color has access to 4 guild rares. If we assume:
1) Each color can only be assigned 2 of the gold rares as options in their prerelase pack, and
2) That the prerelease card will not be the second rare/mythic in the prerelease pack
Then black would have to have Thoughtseize as one of their 8 prerelease pack options..
Black only has access to 10 rares in the set, either mono or guild colored.
Black would lose the 2 guild colored rares that show up in other colors (e.g. Triad of the Fates and Reaper of the Wilds)
Black couldn't pull Abhorrent Overlord.
That leaves black with only 7 rares, plus the chance to pull Erebos. Thoughtseize hunters? The math tells you 'game on'.
Additionally:
It would stand to reason that they cycle the Gatecrash guilds through the Prerelease packs. If Polis Crusher is in green, then it would mean:
Anax and Cymede is in Red
Triad of Fates is in White
Psychic Intrusion is in Black (confirmed)
Prophet of Kruphix is in Blue
Fleecemane lion was found in a pre-release pack though.
I think each color has access to all their respective multicolor cards, in other words;
They'll split them up, simply to avoid flooding the market with a particular rare. We know they likely have a 1 out of 8 ratio for the Mythic, based on the RTR/GTC packs. 1 God, 2 Gold rares, and 5 other mono-colored rares that aren't the pre-release promo would make sense.
Admittedly, this is speculation, but it's founded in WOTC "balancing" pre-release options.
Each color has access to 4 guild rares. If we assume:
1) Each color can only be assigned 2 of the gold rares as options in their prerelase pack, and
2) That the prerelease card will not be the second rare/mythic in the prerelease pack
Then black would have to have Thoughtseize as one of their 8 prerelease pack options..
Black only has access to 10 rares in the set, either mono or guild colored.
Black would lose the 2 guild colored rares that show up in other colors (e.g. Triad of the Fates and Reaper of the Wilds)
Black couldn't pull Abhorrent Overlord.
That leaves black with only 7 rares, plus the chance to pull Erebos. Thoughtseize hunters? The math tells you 'game on'.
I suspect that the scrylands could pop up. There are also two artifacts at rare. With 53 rares in the set 5 are the promos, and probably no doubles so say 48. If there are the suspected eight pre-release packs of each colour thats 40, five are known to be the mythic Gods, so 35 rares. Which means 13 rares won't pop up in the packs.
I could see thoughtseize going either way.
I actually think they would do everything in their power to keep Thoughtseize out of the black pre-release pack. WotC has stated in the past that casual players loathe cards like Thoughtseize so at a purely casual event it makes sense it wouldn't show up.
Obviously the regular packs in the box can still produce one, I am just referring to the special pack.
At our prerelease I picked black, my rare was an Agent or Fate.
I also noticed a relatively high amount of cards that would enable heroic in that pack, including the cards from the other colors. As its red card it had an Akroan Crusader. So maybe the seeded packs are also constructed with a particular strategy in mind.
I've heard of no one having a Thoughtseize in his seeded pack.
I got Anax and Cymede for my Red pack, surprisingly the others were:
Red
Arena Athlete
Demolish
Messenger's Speed
Minotaur Skullcleaver
Portent of Betrayal
Satyr Rambler
Blue
Crackling Triton
Lost in a Labyrinth
Black
Bloodtroll Harpy
Cutthroat Maneuver
Green
Satyr Hedonist
Staunch-hearted Warrior
White
Wingsteed Rider
Ordeal of Heliod
Most of the cards have some kind of strategy but the colors of RW makes me go red white instead .....
I kind of am wanting them to just give us 6 packs of the product again and let the cards fall as they may.
I wish they would go back to that. It would make the prerelease much more fun and challenging to build a deck rather than having them giftwrap a specific color/color combination to make it easy.
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Count me in that crowd. When everyone is guaranteed to get a nice big bomb it becomes a race to see who can get theirs first. The playable promo takes a lot of the skill out of sealed play and turns it into "herp derp, I got mine first!". Yawn.
If they really want us to play the promos they could just give us artifact or land promos.
Unfortunately no Thoughtseizes were pulled for people wanting to know.
Is this going to change anyone's pick?
Source: http://www.reddit.com/r/magicTCG/comments/1mor9r/contests_of_seeded_packs_for_theros_prerelease/
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- Any white rare
- Heliod
- Anax and Cymede, Daxos of Meletis, Triad of Fates, Fleecemane Lion.
then so on for all colors.
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We'll have to wait till Saturday/Sunday to get all the data (unless more card-shops upload unboxing videos) but it's possible to be 1/8 like the Ravnica pre-releases.
Black is "short" a rare. 249 cards generally mean not an even distribution of cards.
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Don't forget that they have 5 mythics, whereas the other colours have 4.
Ashiok
Underworld Cerberus
Ashen Rider
Hythonia
Erebos
White:
Chained to the Rocks
Fabled Hero
Gift of Immortality
Hundred-Handed One
Soldier of the Pantheon
Spear of Heliod
Heliod, God of the Sun
Anax and Cymede
Daxos of Meletis
Fleecemane Lion
Triad of Fates
Blue:
Artisan of Forms
Curse of the Swine
Meletis Charlatan
Prognostic Sphinx
Swan Song
Thassa, God of the Sea
Bident of Thassa
Daxos of Meletis
Prophet of Kruphix
Psychic Intrusion
Steam Augury
Black:
Agent of the Fates
Hero's Downfall
Nighthowler
Thoughtseize
Whip of Erebos
Erebos, God of the Dead
Psychic Intrusion
Reaper of the Wilds
Triad of Fates
Tymaret, the Murder King
Red:
Anger of the Gods
Firedrinker Satyr
Labyrinth Champion
Rageblood Shaman
Titan of Eternal Fire
Hammer of Purphoros
Purphoros, God of the Forge
Anax and Cymede
Polis Crusher
Steam Augury
Tymaret, the Murder King
Green:
Arbor Colossus
Boon Satyr
Mistcutter Hydra
Reverent Hunter
Sylvan Caryatid
Bow of Nylea
Nylea, God of the Hunt
Fleecemane Lion
Polis Crusher
Prophet of Kruphix
Reaper of the Wilds
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People need to take note of whats in their packs. If it turns out to be that way (and I'd expect it to be, since RTR/GTC was), then we can expect it going forward in any "gimmick" packs until we see otherwise.
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Each color has access to 4 guild rares. If we assume:
1) Each color can only be assigned 2 of the gold rares as options in their prerelase pack, and
2) That the prerelease card will not be the second rare/mythic in the prerelease pack
Then black would have to have Thoughtseize as one of their 8 prerelease pack options..
Black only has access to 10 rares in the set, either mono or guild colored.
Black would lose the 2 guild colored rares that show up in other colors (e.g. Triad of the Fates and Reaper of the Wilds)
Black couldn't pull Abhorrent Overlord.
That leaves black with only 7 rares, plus the chance to pull Erebos. Thoughtseize hunters? The math tells you 'game on'.
Additionally:
It would stand to reason that they cycle the Gatecrash guilds through the Prerelease packs. If Polis Crusher is in green, then it would mean:
Anax and Cymede is in Red
Triad of Fates is in White
Psychic Intrusion is in Black (confirmed)
Prophet of Kruphix is in Blue
Fleecemane lion was found in a pre-release pack though.
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Correct, but GW is a RTR guild. If we presume the same type of cycling, and Fleecemane was found in a White Battle Pack:
Fleecemane Lion is in White
Reaper of the Wilds is in Green
Tyramet, the Murder King is in Black
Steam Augury is in Red
Daxos of Meletis is in Blue
They'll split them up, simply to avoid flooding the market with a particular rare. We know they likely have a 1 out of 8 ratio for the Mythic, based on the RTR/GTC packs. 1 God, 2 Gold rares, and 5 other mono-colored rares that aren't the pre-release promo would make sense.
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I suspect that the scrylands could pop up. There are also two artifacts at rare. With 53 rares in the set 5 are the promos, and probably no doubles so say 48. If there are the suspected eight pre-release packs of each colour thats 40, five are known to be the mythic Gods, so 35 rares. Which means 13 rares won't pop up in the packs.
I could see thoughtseize going either way.
Obviously the regular packs in the box can still produce one, I am just referring to the special pack.
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I got Anax and Cymede for my Red pack, surprisingly the others were:
Red
Arena Athlete
Demolish
Messenger's Speed
Minotaur Skullcleaver
Portent of Betrayal
Satyr Rambler
Blue
Crackling Triton
Lost in a Labyrinth
Black
Bloodtroll Harpy
Cutthroat Maneuver
Green
Satyr Hedonist
Staunch-hearted Warrior
White
Wingsteed Rider
Ordeal of Heliod
Most of the cards have some kind of strategy but the colors of RW makes me go red white instead .....
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I wish they would go back to that. It would make the prerelease much more fun and challenging to build a deck rather than having them giftwrap a specific color/color combination to make it easy.
Count me in that crowd. When everyone is guaranteed to get a nice big bomb it becomes a race to see who can get theirs first. The playable promo takes a lot of the skill out of sealed play and turns it into "herp derp, I got mine first!". Yawn.
If they really want us to play the promos they could just give us artifact or land promos.