MTG Salvation

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Is Ashiok male or female?

Also where the hell are the gorgons?

Article refers to Ashiok with a male pronoun, and the larger art seems to imply androgynous male features.

Mind you, he also doesn't have a head, so...there's that.

When are we going to get a UB 'walker that isn't gimmicky as hell?

That's a fun looking Walker.

Hunt the Hunter seems much cooler to me now. I'm not saying it's good but it is a free +2/+2 for 1. The free anti-green is just extra. They got nice flavor and I like that. The white god got hosed though.

Erebos might be quite bannable in Commander as a Commander. That's just nuts.

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So Ashiok is kinda awful in general.
but far far more importantly is What the HELL is s/he?!

I'm very curious myself- the article doesn't even specify a gender!

At a 3 drop, Ashiok is hard for me to evaluate. (S)he comes down early, and has a +2. That's solid in my book. (S)he's conditional though, because if the opponent isn't playing fat creatures, her [-] isn't very impressive. I'll leave this one for time to tell.

Draw on command is strong. I like Erebos.

So then... is no one going to talk about the murder king? cause that's my favorite card in the set so far... gonna be a limited house and an extremely fun edh general.

Wow what an amazing looking planeswalker. I'm not sure how good it is, but I want one!

I would like a Heresy in foil, please.

So following the current trend with the gods and their artifacts, Erebos' whip should cost 1BB. Also since all the artifacts work well with their respective gods, maybe the whip will drain life?

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it only draws 1 card : / 2 would be too strong on demand.




JUST REPRINT COMPULSION WIZARDS GAWD

Ah Damn. Still good though, at least in my book.

LOVE the Ashiok art
That green hate card was spoiled before and is SOOO much worse than the others
I can see the b/u/w seeing some play perhaps, depending on what decks appear in standard

Ashiok looks awful for most play. Might be a wanted tool for mill decks, though. Mills faster than Jace, and can grab something for defense if you suddenly find yourself vulnerable. Don't like it, however.

I extremely dislike the self-hating color cards. Black suddenly can specifically target itself? And White is racist against itself? What happened to White being blind to its own flaws, and prejudiced against everything not-itself? I guess this explains the strange green-only fight spell earlier. These make really strong sideboard cards, but are twice as limited as previous color-hating spells, since they target only one color instead of the two enemy colors. I really don't like the design of these.

That being said, Gainsay seems very playable, and if there are enough solid black creatures, Dark Betrayal is fair enough. It is ironic that Glare of Heresy can cast out Heliod himself.

Edit: Art for Ashiok is amazing, though. Just imagine the foil.

Loving the cycle of hate cards (now that Green fight one makes sense).

Ashiok is AWESOME! You people bashing her are out of your minds, she's exactly what Dimir needed. Duskmantle Guildmage anyone? Sucks Jace's Phantasm is rotating out but even still, this is pretty nuts. And don't forget the new Bestow Horror...


Yeah, Aggro Mill is gonna be a thing. I wonder if it'll be doable to splash white post-rotation to include Daxos...


EDIT: Erebos is exactly what Orzhov was looking for as well, dear lord. Go go extort!

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I'm very curious myself- the article doesn't even specify a gender!

No matter how or where you choose to play Ashiok, Nightmare Weaver, it's going to be a wild ride. There's a big element of random when we're flipping cards for value off the top of our opponent's library, but it's clear that the numbers favor Ashiok, Nightmare Weaver, especially if he gets to sit around for more than a single turn.

Seems male to me.

Red god> Blue god>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Black god>>>>White god>> Green god

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Am i the only one who can't load any of the follow up pages on http://www.wizards.com/magic/magazine/article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/ct/263?

They just fixed the links, but they were broken before, yes.

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Erebos might be quite bannable in Commander as a Commander. That's just nuts.

I hope not! That's going to be my new command in a heart beat!

Quote from Pfisiar

Erebos might be quite bannable in Commander as a Commander. That's just nuts.

Perhaps. 6 mana and 6 life for three cards is half of that grizzy used to do. Interesting negative debuff. Usually red cards have the anti life. Where the hell was he during thragtusk spam!

Ashiok seems decent to me....5 loyalty starting out for 3 mana. Shes narrow but could be fun. She should be cheap to pick up!

Was hoping for a better god. Like the planeswalker.

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At a 3 drop, Ashiok is hard for me to evaluate. (S)he comes down early, and has a +2. That's solid in my book. (S)he's conditional though, because if the opponent isn't playing fat creatures, her [-] isn't very impressive. I'll leave this one for time to tell.

The -X is CMC based though, so it in some ways is even better with cheap stuff.

Plus lets not forget how ridiculously undercosted the Gods are grabbing a God you've exiled for -4 seems pretty good for most of them even if you don't have the activation mana or devotion.

It's so weird it's hard to evaluate how good it will be, but the -X will be usable at high or low numbers both, since even crappy 1 CMC critters will generally be able to chump stuff.

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So Ashiok is kinda awful in general.
but far far more importantly is What the HELL is s/he?!

My thoughts exactly! It can't be a zombie right? They can't have sparks? Unless it's some new rule for the returned?