MTG Salvation

I cannot understand pessimism. There is nothing wrong with any of the names.
The card does something not done before, which is a nice creative process. It aids with deck design. Growth and expansion in new directions is what this game has always been about. Try to remember that.
I'm also happy with the quick timing on the voting this round. Monday, Wednesday, then Friday.

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I actually think this card can be really good as long as its under 4cmc. I suspect BB as the mana cost. Two is the sweet spot, three is about the same as Triumph of Cruelty and it didn't see play.

1CC or bust IMO...

Carpe Noctem and Spoils of Misery are the two best by a long way.
Spoils of Misery will get my final vote though

Anyone else feel like the way brackets were done completely ruined this YMTC?

Spoils of Misery or Necroharvest get top votes for names. Waste Not and Riches from Rags got my other two votes. My guess is the popular vote by the people who vote on there will go for Skullduggery.

And hit the submit button without checking a box because clicking a different brackets takes away the vote from a previous brackett. Now I can't vote.
Lovely.

Vile Plunder great name

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Skullduggery - Awesome name, but doesn't fit this card.
Spoils of Misery - Because everyone feels so miserable.

Carpe Noctem - Awesome name for a Vampire anthem. A waste for this card.
Waste Not - It fits this flavor card and is a reminder of the wasted opportunity. I think this is the best overall for this card.

Drudge Rummage - Sounds like I'm talking with marbles in my mouth.
Riches from Rags - This would be better fitting somewhere else, but its still okay.

Necroharvest - Seems more like an Oversold Cemetery variant.
Vile Plunder - Pretty vile.

The mana cost will probably come in close to Liliana's Caress, although less is obviously better. It would be really nice if it is also in a set where they bring back cycling again.

This card is not terrible. But it really depends on its CC and rarity.

I would really like to see this as BB at rare (1BBat uncommon).

I like Vile Plunder and Drudge Rummage the best.

Ah Pessimism MUST you always ruin everything? Must you always make every debate annoying.

Tl/Dr
Please just make the best out of it guys. I mean not everything is going to be what you want it to be.

WHAAAAAAAAT? They used my submition!!! Spoils of Misery is mine!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YEEEEEEEEEEEAH BUDDY

Skullduggery over Spoils of Misery. The latter is a bit too generic. Just stick some evil words and some sad words together, boom, black spell.

Waste Not over Carpe Noctem. Waste Not is solid but not great, but Carpe Noctem just doesn't sound very good. I understand it's a Latin play on words, but it's not a very good one.

Riches from Rags over Drudge Rummage. Riches from Rags has the same feel as Waste Not, but it's more fun. Drudge Rummage isn't quite as generic as some of the other names here, but it's still not quite creative enough for me.

Vile Plunder over Necroharvest, barely. If I'm going to have to pick between the two most generic black names here, I'm at least going to take the one made up of real words instead of just jamming a black-sounding prefix onto something.

My favorite overall has to be Riches from Rags, with Skullduggery being a close second.

At 1cmc, I'd test this in Pox. That said, it's probably going to end up costing BBBB or something ridiculous like that.

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WHAAAAAAAAT? They used my submition!!! Spoils of Misery is mine!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YEEEEEEEEEEEAH BUDDY

Felicitaciones... esta en mi quinto lugar de favorita jaja o "menos mala"

The mass hysteria about how bad this card is is rather unbased. This would be a solid card at B and borderline playable at 1B/BB. Although it is still extremely narrow, however you cost it.

Vile Plunder all the way, since it sounds like "Vile Blunder", which this YMTC has been.

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The mass hysteria about how bad this card is is rather unbased. This would be a solid card at B and borderline playable at 1B/BB. Although it is still extremely narrow, however you cost it.

Except, there's really no chance that this card is going to be costed at 1-2CC. Hence the "hysteria", which is very legitimate.

Quote from DTrain

Disappointingly I completely agree with you. This YMTC really has not turned out well. This seems like it will turn out as a Vanish Into Memory, rather than a Crucible of Worlds like I and many others had hoped for.

At least Vanish into Memory sees play in some EDH/Commander decks.
This card won't even make it that far.. And it could be free and I still wouldn't play it in limited.

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At least Vanish into Memory sees play in some EDH/Commander decks.
This card won't even make it that far.. And it could be free and I still wouldn't play it in limited.

This card would actually be a powerhouse in EDH, and the mana cost may not even matter in that format. Playing this in a Grixis deck with cards like Wheel and Deal or Wheel of Fortune in combination with Phyrexian Tyranny (which is a good and common Grixis win condition) would lead to insane card advantage (especially if you're playing Hive Mind). Making three other players discard their entire hand would trigger an insane amount of resources for you to abuse. In EDH this would easily be playable, even at 4-5 mana. Assuming you're in a pod of 4 players and you cast a mass discard spell, you're looking at up to 21+ triggers in one go off of this enchantment - that's some powerful stuff.

Holy crap, suddenly I want one despite just bemoaning it's probable mana cost in regards to the competitive formats...

Assume this card costs B.

In EDH an entire deck built around this one card is pointless. you have a pile of 98 other cards you have to sift through. Now let's say you added it to a deck that can really use this card, but is not reliant on it. It's impact is so minimal it hurts.

In limited this card is unplayable, outside of a block stacked with discard themes and or cycling, and it's uncommon at lowest possible rarity means it's impact is minimal.

In Standard it would take an extremely imbalanced card to be printed along side this guy, and even then it's likely to remain a win more card. FNM's might see it's use, but it's impact is once again minimal.

In Modern this card has the same faults as quest for the nihil stone in which it occupies prime real estate in the early turns and fails late game top deck checks. I'm not even sure reprinting hymn would make this card modern playable, and even if it did it's impact would be fringe playable and once again minimal.

That's the problem here... YMTC is a major event throughout mtg history, people want these cards to have playability like crucible of worlds. It's painful to consider such a milestone will at best have minimal impact...

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Assume this card costs B.

In EDH an entire deck built around this one card is pointless. you have a pile of 98 other cards you have to sift through. Now let's say you added it to a deck that can really use this card, but is not reliant on it. It's impact is so minimal it hurts.

While I agree with your analysis of the other formats, you're not taking into consideration the amount of tutors that are run in EDH decks. The card is black in itself, so if someone really wanted to find it in their deck then they'll have no problem doing that - Black has Diabolic Revelation, Increasing Ambition, Demonic Tutor, Grim Tutor, Diabolic Tutor, Vampiric Tutor, Rune-Scarred Demon and many, many other ways to fetch cards. Then, if you're playing Blue, you have the potential for more card draw to find it. As I was saying in the post above, a Grixis deck could easily abuse this. A really good EDH deck doesn't focus around a single card, usually, but has many different ways to win and garner card advantage. In a deck running Blue, Black and Red, it's quite easy to seek this card out. As soon as you play this and use a card that knocks every card out of your opponent's hands, you're looking at up to 21 (or possibly more) triggers activating from this card. That's a ton of creatures, cards drawn and mana in your mana pool.

As I previously said, this could easily fit into any Grixis deck running cards like Phyrexian Tyranny as a win condition, wherein it benefits from Wheel of Fortune and you doubly benefit from all these potential triggers. I think you're severely underestimating it's ability to fit into EDH decks and perform well - it compliments typical Grixis strategies nearly perfectly. If you didn't come into a win condition, you're going to have the mana or card draw from those triggers to find one.

I personally love Vile Plunder. I assume the voting on here is mostly just whining than serious voting so I am hopeful the only good name will win out.

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I'll agree that it's completely possible to build an edh deck to utilize this card as a potential win condition... I would however make the argument that it's more of a win more in those situations especially considering those situations megrim or liliana's caress, or even would phyrexian tyranny goes farther towards actually winning the game. Either way the point stands, supporting exactly one style of EDH deck possibility is still a minimal impact.

I submitted "Necrotic Harvest". I wonder if they used that and just shorted it to Necro or if someone else submitted such a similar thing...

Quote from Aryakin

I'll agree that it's completely possible to build an edh deck to utilize this card as a potential win condition... I would however make the argument that it's more of a win more in those situations especially considering those situations megrim or liliana's caress, or even would phyrexian tyranny goes farther towards actually winning the game. Either way the point stands, supporting exactly one style of EDH deck possibility is still a minimal impact.

What about casual constructed? Discard decks are the nuts in casual.

I honestly think this has the potential to be the next Glimpse the Unthinkable or Doubling Season in the amount of casual demand for it.

Wow, "Riches from Rags" is such an awkward sounding name. I submitted "Ragman's Riches" as a reference to the idiom. But maybe I was a bit too subtle.