Incoming "DURESS MEANS NO THOUGHTSEIZE" crying in 3...2...1...
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My Commander decks:
Chandra, Torch of Defiance - Oops! All Chandras.
Prime Speaker Zegana - Draw for Power.
Pir & Toothy - Counterpalooza.
Arcades, the Strategist - Another Brick in the Wall.
Zacama, Primal Calamity - Calamity of Double Mana.
Edgar Markov - Vampires Don't Die.
Child of Alara - Dreamcrusher.
maybe now I'll be able to get a foil forge at a cheaper price (kind of agree with the mythic upgrade). Interestingly, does anyone thing millstone could be dropped to uncommon, or is it just too strong in limited at that rarity.
EDH is like French fries: some people like waffle cut, crinkle cut, or plain old straight cut, and while there's slight flavor difference and personal preference, at the end of the day they're still fries.
i kinda cant believe that people just believe this crap. its highly unlikely to get a card like darksteel forge in a coreset. and since this is utter bull...., i dont believe in the rest too.
"a source has given him reprints"
why this 3? and why only these 3 cards. this is even harder to believe, than the source of the thoughtseize reprint.
They've said that they want to help Black be more competitive. Duress/Thoughtseize in Standard isn't that much better than Duress/Inquisition of Kozilek was, and while it'll certainly be powerful, I think it'll ultimately just do what Wizards wants, let Black be a bit more competitive, because right now, it's pretty heavily outshined in standard.
EDH is like French fries: some people like waffle cut, crinkle cut, or plain old straight cut, and while there's slight flavor difference and personal preference, at the end of the day they're still fries.
Incoming "DURESS MEANS NO THOUGHTSEIZE" crying in 3...2...1...
this is probably from the same source, since I recall Jeebus saying it was the same dude who revealed Mutavault which means it would more than likely be the same guy revealing these.
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Duress is pretty interesting with all the talk of Thoughtseize being reprinted. Could this not be true?!
Millstone could be interesting as well. Nephalia Drownyard will soon be rotating out of standard. Perhaps this will be a replacement?
They could both be in the set, but this would pretty much guarantee Thoughtseize to be mythic so that there aren't 4+ 1-drop discard spells in every sealed pool. :/
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They could both be in the set, but this would pretty much guarantee Thoughtseize to be mythic so that there aren't 4+ 1-drop discard spells in every sealed pool. :/
IT CANT BE MYTHIC. when do people watch the ****ing number crunch before talking.
black already has all mythics spoilered. this means IF thoughtseize gets a reprint, IT CANT BE MYTHIC.
also doesnt anyone else think, that its highly unlikely that we get a card like darksteel forge in a coreset, which is completly useless, since there arent any artefacts or artifact hate around?
They could both be in the set, but this would pretty much guarantee Thoughtseize to be mythic so that there aren't 4+ 1-drop discard spells in every sealed pool. :/
That would give black 4 mythics though, and since we have at least one mythic artifact, it is unlikely they short one color a mythic and then give another color a "surplus". This is all assuming that thoughtsieze is actually in the set.
EDH is like French fries: some people like waffle cut, crinkle cut, or plain old straight cut, and while there's slight flavor difference and personal preference, at the end of the day they're still fries.
They could both be in the set, but this would pretty much guarantee Thoughtseize to be mythic so that there aren't 4+ 1-drop discard spells in every sealed pool. :/
Except we already have 3 Black Mythics, don't we? Liliana of the Dark Realms, Rise of the Dark Realms and Shadowborn Demon.
Welp, got ninja'd but at least I didn't have a need to throw the F-word in it like candy.
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My Commander decks:
Chandra, Torch of Defiance - Oops! All Chandras.
Prime Speaker Zegana - Draw for Power.
Pir & Toothy - Counterpalooza.
Arcades, the Strategist - Another Brick in the Wall.
Zacama, Primal Calamity - Calamity of Double Mana.
Edgar Markov - Vampires Don't Die.
Child of Alara - Dreamcrusher.
Darksteel Forge might indicate a round of useful artifacts in Theros block, perhaps even the return of legendary equipment. Wouldn't surprise me a bit.
I doubt it. If Darksteel Forge is in M14, I see its presence as analogous to the presence of Akroma's Memorial in M13. Something completely disconnected from the upcoming block.
It has a fun effect but most decks can't hope to play it, especially in standard. Its something nice to throw into trade binders, EDH decks, and a few decks built around getting crazy artifacts into play.
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Bwhat? There were more posts on page 2 and I quoted one...and now they're gone.
I can't believe anyone is excited about this card. It is absolutely unplayable. I wouldn't even play her in LIMITED. Easily the worst walker printed since the green elf one. Absolutely terrible.
Very confused on Forge; just seems like such an odd reprint for a format without many interesting artifacts. I thought all signs were pointing to Theros being enchantment based?
Very confused on Forge; just seems like such an odd reprint for a format without many interesting artifacts. I thought all signs were pointing to Theros being enchantment based?
To be fair, the last enchantment block (Urza's block) did have one or two good artifacts / artifact enablers . . .
A good couple of reprints if this pans out, and I'll go T1 duress, T3 flashback duress all day for those 3 months I get to
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Chandra, Torch of Defiance - Oops! All Chandras.
Prime Speaker Zegana - Draw for Power.
Pir & Toothy - Counterpalooza.
Arcades, the Strategist - Another Brick in the Wall.
Zacama, Primal Calamity - Calamity of Double Mana.
Edgar Markov - Vampires Don't Die.
Child of Alara - Dreamcrusher.
sorry but even if you are a mod, i cant believe that.
why the hell would they reprint darksteel forge without any artifacts, you could use with it.
also wasnt duress ruled out by the number crunch?
the only card i could see in m14 is the millstone.
Possible artifact theme? Also nice to see old favourite Millstone.
It'll probably be mythic though.
Just because Duress is in doesn't rule out Thoughtseize, Serra Angel got printed along with Baneslayer Angel.
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"a source has given him reprints"
why this 3? and why only these 3 cards. this is even harder to believe, than the source of the thoughtseize reprint.
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Millstone could be interesting as well. Nephalia Drownyard will soon be rotating out of standard. Perhaps this will be a replacement?
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this is probably from the same source, since I recall Jeebus saying it was the same dude who revealed Mutavault which means it would more than likely be the same guy revealing these.
They could both be in the set, but this would pretty much guarantee Thoughtseize to be mythic so that there aren't 4+ 1-drop discard spells in every sealed pool. :/
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Because it is a solid casual reprint and core sets are great for that.
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IT CANT BE MYTHIC. when do people watch the ****ing number crunch before talking.
black already has all mythics spoilered. this means IF thoughtseize gets a reprint, IT CANT BE MYTHIC.
also doesnt anyone else think, that its highly unlikely that we get a card like darksteel forge in a coreset, which is completly useless, since there arent any artefacts or artifact hate around?
That would give black 4 mythics though, and since we have at least one mythic artifact, it is unlikely they short one color a mythic and then give another color a "surplus". This is all assuming that thoughtsieze is actually in the set.
Except we already have 3 Black Mythics, don't we? Liliana of the Dark Realms, Rise of the Dark Realms and Shadowborn Demon.
Welp, got ninja'd but at least I didn't have a need to throw the F-word in it like candy.
Chandra, Torch of Defiance - Oops! All Chandras.
Prime Speaker Zegana - Draw for Power.
Pir & Toothy - Counterpalooza.
Arcades, the Strategist - Another Brick in the Wall.
Zacama, Primal Calamity - Calamity of Double Mana.
Edgar Markov - Vampires Don't Die.
Child of Alara - Dreamcrusher.
I doubt it. If Darksteel Forge is in M14, I see its presence as analogous to the presence of Akroma's Memorial in M13. Something completely disconnected from the upcoming block.
It has a fun effect but most decks can't hope to play it, especially in standard. Its something nice to throw into trade binders, EDH decks, and a few decks built around getting crazy artifacts into play.
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Bwhat? There were more posts on page 2 and I quoted one...and now they're gone.
WOTC might be doing this so new players can make the following comparison.
Duress - Can only discard non-land non-creature spells.
Thoughtseize - Discards ANYTHING that is non-land, but it comes at a cost of 2 life.
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To be fair, the last enchantment block (Urza's block) did have one or two good artifacts / artifact enablers . . .
A good couple of reprints if this pans out, and I'll go T1 duress, T3 flashback duress all day for those 3 months I get to
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