Didn't MaRo say that Bob would not be in this set shortly after its announcement? Happy to see it, glad I still have my play set so I can trade off this horrible art.
I wouldn't put it pass MaRo if he was referring to Bob's likeness not being in the set. And if that is the case, I see what you did there, MaRo
Still cant believe that theyre making MM a limited print run. What good does it do? Absolutely nothing. More cards of this caliber printed = more cash for WotC. The secondary market shouldnt even be a factor in this. They want more players for Modern and Legacy, then why limit the availability in the first place? I hope that its true what some posters has already guessed at, that this print run is larger than people think it will be.
Still cant believe that theyre making MM a limited print run. What good does it do? Absolutely nothing. More cards of this caliber printed = more cash for WotC. The secondary market shouldnt even be a factor in this. They want more players for Modern and Legacy, then why limit the availability in the first place? I hope that its true what some posters has already guessed at, that this print run is larger than people think it will be.
Agreed, this print-run should have been ridiculous so everyone can have all the nice cards at decent prices. I doubt this lowers the market price at all. When announced, I was optimistic I could get goyf and bob at reasonable (albeit "high") prices, I have a feeling this MM thing won't dent the price.
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I mean, hell, we're all on a forum for something that most people would describe as a "children's card game"...do what makes you happy. You are never too old to enjoy yourself.
I see the connection just fine, but people are not understanding that what Wizards is really trying to do here is stop rising prices by giving players the opportunity to open them in packs.
Ah, I think I see what you're saying now. So you're saying that, rather than increase the supply to lower the prices on the secondary market, WotC is trying to make the cards available via limited so that people don't have to buy the cards on the secondary market? Or don't have to buy as many cards on the secondary market?
Well, even if that was the case, which it's not, the same rules of scarcity apply. The fact that Dark Confidant is a mythic rare in a limited print run set means they aren't increasing the supply enough to have any tangible effect on the availability of the card, which means that they're failing in their stated goal of making modern more accessible. Either way you look at it, printing modern staples at mythic rare in this limited print run set achieves nothing for the format, and, as people have said, is simply a cash grab.
Thus, Wizards wants to fix Modern and line their pockets at the same time.
Except they're not fixing modern. They're only lining their pockets, because the price of the staples was what needed to be fixed, and this set will have very little effect on the price of those staples. That's why people are complaining: WotC is still going to make a lot of money from Modern Masters even though the set is going to fail at its intended purpose of making modern more accessible, which is frustrating.
First off, on the art - as somebody who never was around when Dark Confidant came out (and has little/no knowledge of Bob Maher either), I've always thought that the old art looked stupid and needed an art switch, as it is a card that's extremely popular and given high visibility in tournaments, etc. I love the new art - I get that for some, the old is nostalgic, but I just don't see how when you put that aside, you can't say this is the better-looking card. Clearly there's some preference there though, I get that.
To me, I don't care too much about which cards they make mythic instead of rare, I'm primarily judging the set by the value of the rares that'll get spoiled. The mythics should be good, of course. (And what mythics were people hoping for, anyways? 5 planeswalkers and what?) Sure, Bob and Tarmogoyf are out of the picture, but there's still a lot left to be seen when we've only seen 4 cards, and know nothing about the real direction in the set.
Let's give this a little more time to develop, and if it sucks and the only value is in the mythics... well then, we can unleash the dogs of wrath on Wizards. But let's have a little patience first and not assume Wizards is out to lose all their customers on purpose.
3 Card spoiled, set not due to be released for a month and your conclusion is:
THEY HAVE COMPLETELY FAILED THEIR PURPOSE.
It doesn't matter how many cards have been spoiled. Even if they reprinted literally all of the expensive cards in the set, we already know the size of the booster boxes and print run. It doesn't take a huge leap of logic to come to the conclusion that I did. And the set's being released in two weeks, not a month.
The rarity bump of some rares to Mythic doesn't bother me, if uncommons are bumped up to rare then I will be a little upset.
5-10 uncommons suck, this set if they remain at uncommon will significantly lower the prices of modern decks even if Goyfs, Bobs, etc only drop 5 dollars.
Modern is expensive all around, when some of the rares and uncommons fall in price then you'll see more people with expendable cash to grab their goyfs, bobs, etc... This set regardless of Goyfs price will help more people get into modern... Which is a good thing, I don't think they ever intended to bring the prices down of the money cards... I think they wanted to bring down the prices of all the others so you can have a little more cash to spend on them...
This is my observation, but until Kitchen Finks, Path to Exile, etc are spoiled this is all speculation.
The new Bob looks so much better than the old one, I never understood the Catfish.
I love how Wizards' way of giving us Modern staples is through a set where the MSRP for packs is $7, the box preorder price is already up to $300, and the staples are Mythic. Way to not attend to the problem.
They are forcing us to like and play Modern, but they ban everything that rises to the top, and don't give us the cards in decent ways. I mean, wtf?
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This product isn't about giving you anything, it is about increasing the number of certain cards in circulation, selling premium booster packs, and creating a novel draft experience. The number of people who seem to feel they are entitled to be given a Tier 1 Modern deck for dirt cheap is amazing. And no matter what price is in your head when you think "Dark Confidant should be available for $X", there's somebody else in this thread who thinks that price is twice as high as anybody should be "forced" to pay for it.
And if they had printed Bobs and Goyfs at common in this set, the total price of a Tier 1 Modern deck would stay about the same and the value would simply shift into other cards that become the new choke points for acquiring the deck.
The problem with Modern isn't the price of high-profile staples like Bob and Goyf that aren't even seeing play in the top decks at this moment. You could make a better case for those $10-$15 uncommons being a problem. Lowering the price of certain cards isn't going to solve the problem of Modern becoming just like Extended, a seasonal format that people felt obligated to play once a year but otherwise didn't enjoy. Price was never the problem with old Extended catching on, nor is it for Modern. If people want to play a format, they will build a budget deck or a lower tier deck just to get in and start playing it. Nobody's jumping into Modern these days.
This product isn't about giving you anything, it is about increasing the number of certain cards in circulation, selling premium booster packs, and creating a novel draft experience. The number of people who seem to feel they are entitled to be given a Tier 1 Modern deck for dirt cheap is amazing. And no matter what price is in your head when you think "Dark Confidant should be available for $X", there's somebody else in this thread who thinks that price is twice as high as anybody should be "forced" to pay for it.
And if they had printed Bobs and Goyfs at common in this set, the total price of a Tier 1 Modern deck would stay about the same and the value would simply shift into other cards that become the new choke points for acquiring the deck.
The problem with Modern isn't the price of high-profile staples like Bob and Goyf that aren't even seeing play in the top decks at this moment. You could make a better case for those $10-$15 uncommons being a problem. Lowering the price of certain cards isn't going to solve the problem of Modern becoming just like Extended, a seasonal format that people felt obligated to play once a year but otherwise didn't enjoy. Price was never the problem with old Extended catching on, nor is it for Modern. If people want to play a format, they will build a budget deck or a lower tier deck just to get in and start playing it. Nobody's jumping into Modern these days.
I agree, except... At least my play group and shop everyone is trying to play modern... We have modern FNM once a month and that might be the reason. I wish sfarcitygames would of changed one of their formats to modern when they took away a couple of Legacy Sundays, that would of helped push the format.
No, it wouldn't. Making Confidant cost $20 doesn't magically pump the price of Remand to $30.
And the cost of uncommons and commons in the format isn't really an issue. A $10 Remand is both affordable and, more importanly, financially manageable. It's lunch money. A soon to be $60 Confidant isn't. It's more a case of consumer psychology than anything else.
I guess MM will help keeping the price of those Remands where they are. That's okay.
40 dollars for a play set of Remands is affordable? I guess your right but then your have to factor in all the other cards.... I think the commons and uncommons will drop significantly... Which will lower the overall entry into modern.... I don't think remands, finks, etc if they stay at uncommon will hold a 10 monetary value after MM. Maybe in a couple of years after MM drops but they will drop in the short term.
Modern is expensive all around, when some of the rares and uncommons fall in price then you'll see more people with expendable cash to grab their goyfs, bobs, etc... This set regardless of Goyfs price will help more people get into modern... Which is a good thing, I don't think they ever intended to bring the prices down of the money cards... I think they wanted to bring down the prices of all the others so you can have a little more cash to spend on them...
Fair point. I really hope you're right that making the commons/uncommons more affordable will have a significant impact on the price of decks. I'm worried, though, that the commons/uncommons aren't expensive enough, and won't go down enough, to make that much of a difference. In Jund, for example, you still need 4 Bobs, 4 Goyfs, 4 Lilianas, and 3 Thoughtseizes. That's easily $1000 right there, not even counting the rest of the deck. Is it really going to matter at that point if you save $20 on your playset of Kitchen Finks?
Why do others still believe Wizards is a philanthropic organisation and not a business?
Why do people think that any thing a business does is good as long as it makes money?
Why do people think the best way to run a business is to gouge their customers every chance they get rather than to make their product as good as possible?
A 40 dollar mythic rare would constitute a must have 4 of that goes in many decks.
Stats About Mythics
-Mythics are on average 40% rarer than pre-mythic rares
(old blocks about 200 rares, Mythic blocks 35+ mythics)
-They are printing more new cards a year not less
(about 665 now vs. 630 in most pre-mythic block)
-To drop the value of a rare by $1 a mythic must go up $2
-In a 3 year time span deck prices doubled. I am petitioning for the removal of mythic rarity. Sig this to join the cause.
This just about kills any chance of me playing Modern. With Goyf and Confidant at Mythic, it solidifies the fact that Wizards doesn't mind having Modern be inaccessible to the vast majority of players. They have completely folded to the threat of angry collectors. They just have to understand that as long as staples remain at 20+, the popularity of Modern will dwindle and it will becomes an elitist's game (it kinda is already). Legacy is the same way. A very select group of players amongst the MtG community play Legacy, and the same with Modern. No offense to the people who play Modern and Legacy, you are good folk, but you aren't the majority. I'd love to join ya, but I got bills to pay.
On the other hand, this is a legit business strategy, and they are in the business of making money. If they can sell Standard/EDH to 95% of players, and sell top-shelf products like Modern Masters and Commander's Arsenal to the other 5%, then they are profiting and keeping their customers happy. Compare to the car industry; most people are perfectly fine driving around in a Toyota, but small percentage of people have the funds, and the willingness to buy a Cadillac. If everybody had a Cadillac, it wouldn't seem special, and the people who invested tons of money into their luxury product would feel betrayed. They don't want everybody playing Modern, they want people willing to pay 7$ for a pack to play Modern.
I'm not happy about how Modern Masters is shaping up, but...eh...what can I do about it? Whine of a web forum?
Also, what percentage of that number will be frozen by traders? I personally know two traders (small scale but professional) that have about 100 Goyfs between them, just stashed away. They could sell them, sure, but why would they do that? The price is only going up. WotC went out of their way to assure people like that that the price won't actually drop. So they wait. And so does everybody else. It's good business after all.
I full expect them to buy out more Goyfs if the price dips down after MM. They'll put those on ice too. They'll wait. And the price will go up.
Y is the amount of stores in total carrying modern masters.
For a smaller scale, in my city, assuming 18 boxs per store, there will be 20 of each myhic added to the market here, barring hoarders.
Tbh, people like that are a big reason why these cards are so high.
But given 20 tarmos in my city, thats with 6 stores carrying 18 boxs. If we can find out how many stores TOTAL will have MM, we can get a rough estimate of print run.
1 in 8 packs have a mythic.
3 mythics (on average) per box of MM
15 mythics in the set.
1 in 5 boxs will have any given mythic.
Now i've heard numbers range from 9 to 32 boxs per store, lets find a happy median, assume 18 boxs per store.
thats 3.25? Of any given mythic per store.
How many stores will carry this product? Y?
3.25 x Y = how many of the card is printed and will be on the market.
Thats alot guys.
Not really. You have to consider that most stores get multiple playsets of each mythic for normal sets just to sell as singles. This doesn't count copies of the card opened from people who buy sealed product from the store or from people who draft the card and keep it. For this set, assuming your math is right, just over 3 of each mythic will be opened at the store total. That is a tiny amount when you consider that the demand for these cards is extremely high.
Fair point. I really hope you're right that making the commons/uncommons more affordable will have a significant impact on the price of decks. I'm worried, though, that the commons/uncommons aren't expensive enough, and won't go down enough, to make that much of a difference. In Jund, for example, you still need 4 Bobs, 4 Goyfs, 4 Lilianas, and 3 Thoughtseizes. That's easily $1000 right there, not even counting the rest of the deck. Is it really going to matter at that point if you save $20 on your playset of Kitchen Finks?
Nobody's even playing Jund right now. There is probably a Junk deck to be built from all that stuff that looks like Lingering Jund minus the red, but I didnt see any of those at the top either.
The format is actually much cheaper than people seem to think it is all-around, especially if the commons and uncommons come down in price. The UWR decks are all using a bunch of Standard cards, for instance, like Geist and Snapcaster. If you play Standard competitively, and you weren't one of the short-sighted folks who sold off their ZEN fetchland set, you'd be surprised how much of a Modern deck you already have. A new Modern player coming from Standard is much more likely to build something like that deck, in which case he cares more about access to V-Clique, EE, Shackles, etc.
The truth about Bob is that, since the birth of Modern, he's been a very powerful card that has seen MUCH less play than he was expected to. Jund was the only Tier 1 deck he was ever in, but he saw fringe play in things like the RB Burn deck or the Aggro Loam deck. He has never been a pillar of the format, nor has Goyf since the Nacatl banning, and you can play nearly anything in Modern without either of them.
Not really. You have to consider that most stores get multiple playsets of each mythic for normal sets just to sell as singles. This doesn't count copies of the card opened from people who buy sealed product from the store or from people who draft the card and keep it. For this set, assuming your math is right, just over 3 of each mythic will be opened at the store total. That is a tiny amount when you consider that the demand for these cards is extremely high.
thats why i used the conservative 18, as 32 may include any extra boxs from distributers, and stores may very well use those as singles stock.
I know 4/6 stores here are either full at preorders or drafting them, which is to the people.
Not sure about the other 2.
Some cards have to be bumped up to Mythic so this isn't surprising, just a little disappointing. It could signal that all the similarly expensive Rares are also going to be Mythic: Thoughtseize, [CARD]Vendilion Clique
[/CARD], Doubling Season, Cryptic Command, Mutavault, etc. plus the Planeswalkers.
Some cards have to be bumped up to Mythic so this isn't surprising, just a little disappointing. It could signal that all the similarly expensive Rares are also going to be Mythic: Thoughtseize, [CARD]Vendilion Clique
[/CARD], Doubling Season, Cryptic Command, Mutavault, etc. plus the Planeswalkers.
Thoughtseize and Mutavault at mythic would be a slap in the face given that they are pretty simple utility cards. Mutavault in particular given that it was the EXACT example Maro used as a card that would NOT be a mythic rare.
And the saddest part? I could still see them both being bumped to mythic.
I foresee Wizards doing a second print after initial craze boils over. Definitely not a large print like Chronicles, but should be more that what the initial reports are indicating. Wouldn't make sense to make MM more accessible with such a limited run.
Why do people think that any thing a business does is good as long as it makes money?
Why do people think the best way to run a business is to gouge their customers every chance they get rather than to make their product as good as possible?
Well, the ultimate goal of a profit making enterprise is to increase shareholder wealth. You generally do that by increasing overall company profit. Hence, if they are making money off the way they do it, that is "good".
Gouging the customer would lead to people not buying the product. This is not the case. People are buying the product and will play in the Grand Prix that uses the product. As far as making it as good as possible, clearly that is a goal of most companies. Just because you don't think they accomplished that, doesn't mean they are not trying to do it.
Not really. You have to consider that most stores get multiple playsets of each mythic for normal sets just to sell as singles. This doesn't count copies of the card opened from people who buy sealed product from the store or from people who draft the card and keep it. For this set, assuming your math is right, just over 3 of each mythic will be opened at the store total. That is a tiny amount when you consider that the demand for these cards is extremely high.
But it's not. That's the thing.
Demand is high relative to other Modern/Legacy staples but the aggregate demand is WAY LESS than Standard.
Sitting on any cards that aren't on the reserved list sounds like a BAD BAD idea. Especially with WotC being explicit they plan on reprinting staples. With MM being a success already you know that MM 2 is around the corner and who's to say there won't be reprints of reprints.
It's an instant speed 5/5 trampler for 4. Wtf do you people want seriously? It has applications in populate/ above the curve beats decks, or in Bant control/ flash. I seriously think anyone mad at this card for any reason other than losing an attacker to instant speed wurm, should go home and make their own awesome card game and leave the rest of us alone.
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I wouldn't put it pass MaRo if he was referring to Bob's likeness not being in the set. And if that is the case, I see what you did there, MaRo
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I'd even expect to see prices rise.
Still want to draft it, but that'll probably be about all I'll do with it.
Agreed, this print-run should have been ridiculous so everyone can have all the nice cards at decent prices. I doubt this lowers the market price at all. When announced, I was optimistic I could get goyf and bob at reasonable (albeit "high") prices, I have a feeling this MM thing won't dent the price.
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Well, even if that was the case, which it's not, the same rules of scarcity apply. The fact that Dark Confidant is a mythic rare in a limited print run set means they aren't increasing the supply enough to have any tangible effect on the availability of the card, which means that they're failing in their stated goal of making modern more accessible. Either way you look at it, printing modern staples at mythic rare in this limited print run set achieves nothing for the format, and, as people have said, is simply a cash grab.
Except they're not fixing modern. They're only lining their pockets, because the price of the staples was what needed to be fixed, and this set will have very little effect on the price of those staples. That's why people are complaining: WotC is still going to make a lot of money from Modern Masters even though the set is going to fail at its intended purpose of making modern more accessible, which is frustrating.
5-10 uncommons suck, this set if they remain at uncommon will significantly lower the prices of modern decks even if Goyfs, Bobs, etc only drop 5 dollars.
Modern is expensive all around, when some of the rares and uncommons fall in price then you'll see more people with expendable cash to grab their goyfs, bobs, etc... This set regardless of Goyfs price will help more people get into modern... Which is a good thing, I don't think they ever intended to bring the prices down of the money cards... I think they wanted to bring down the prices of all the others so you can have a little more cash to spend on them...
This is my observation, but until Kitchen Finks, Path to Exile, etc are spoiled this is all speculation.
The new Bob looks so much better than the old one, I never understood the Catfish.
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This product isn't about giving you anything, it is about increasing the number of certain cards in circulation, selling premium booster packs, and creating a novel draft experience. The number of people who seem to feel they are entitled to be given a Tier 1 Modern deck for dirt cheap is amazing. And no matter what price is in your head when you think "Dark Confidant should be available for $X", there's somebody else in this thread who thinks that price is twice as high as anybody should be "forced" to pay for it.
And if they had printed Bobs and Goyfs at common in this set, the total price of a Tier 1 Modern deck would stay about the same and the value would simply shift into other cards that become the new choke points for acquiring the deck.
The problem with Modern isn't the price of high-profile staples like Bob and Goyf that aren't even seeing play in the top decks at this moment. You could make a better case for those $10-$15 uncommons being a problem. Lowering the price of certain cards isn't going to solve the problem of Modern becoming just like Extended, a seasonal format that people felt obligated to play once a year but otherwise didn't enjoy. Price was never the problem with old Extended catching on, nor is it for Modern. If people want to play a format, they will build a budget deck or a lower tier deck just to get in and start playing it. Nobody's jumping into Modern these days.
I agree, except... At least my play group and shop everyone is trying to play modern... We have modern FNM once a month and that might be the reason. I wish sfarcitygames would of changed one of their formats to modern when they took away a couple of Legacy Sundays, that would of helped push the format.
40 dollars for a play set of Remands is affordable? I guess your right but then your have to factor in all the other cards.... I think the commons and uncommons will drop significantly... Which will lower the overall entry into modern.... I don't think remands, finks, etc if they stay at uncommon will hold a 10 monetary value after MM. Maybe in a couple of years after MM drops but they will drop in the short term.
1 in 8 packs have a mythic.
3 mythics (on average) per box of MM
15 mythics in the set.
1 in 5 boxs will have any given mythic.
Now i've heard numbers range from 9 to 32 boxs per store, lets find a happy median, assume 18 boxs per store.
thats 3.25? Of any given mythic per store.
How many stores will carry this product? Y?
3.25 x Y = how many of the card is printed and will be on the market.
Thats alot guys.
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Why do people think that any thing a business does is good as long as it makes money?
Why do people think the best way to run a business is to gouge their customers every chance they get rather than to make their product as good as possible?
Stats About Mythics
-Mythics are on average 40% rarer than pre-mythic rares
(old blocks about 200 rares, Mythic blocks 35+ mythics)
-They are printing more new cards a year not less
(about 665 now vs. 630 in most pre-mythic block)
-To drop the value of a rare by $1 a mythic must go up $2
-In a 3 year time span deck prices doubled.
I am petitioning for the removal of mythic rarity. Sig this to join the cause.
On the other hand, this is a legit business strategy, and they are in the business of making money. If they can sell Standard/EDH to 95% of players, and sell top-shelf products like Modern Masters and Commander's Arsenal to the other 5%, then they are profiting and keeping their customers happy. Compare to the car industry; most people are perfectly fine driving around in a Toyota, but small percentage of people have the funds, and the willingness to buy a Cadillac. If everybody had a Cadillac, it wouldn't seem special, and the people who invested tons of money into their luxury product would feel betrayed. They don't want everybody playing Modern, they want people willing to pay 7$ for a pack to play Modern.
I'm not happy about how Modern Masters is shaping up, but...eh...what can I do about it? Whine of a web forum?
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Y is the amount of stores in total carrying modern masters.
For a smaller scale, in my city, assuming 18 boxs per store, there will be 20 of each myhic added to the market here, barring hoarders.
Tbh, people like that are a big reason why these cards are so high.
But given 20 tarmos in my city, thats with 6 stores carrying 18 boxs. If we can find out how many stores TOTAL will have MM, we can get a rough estimate of print run.
Again, not including hoarders, the ptq and stuff.
Big thanks to Rivenor for the sig!!
Nobody's even playing Jund right now. There is probably a Junk deck to be built from all that stuff that looks like Lingering Jund minus the red, but I didnt see any of those at the top either.
The format is actually much cheaper than people seem to think it is all-around, especially if the commons and uncommons come down in price. The UWR decks are all using a bunch of Standard cards, for instance, like Geist and Snapcaster. If you play Standard competitively, and you weren't one of the short-sighted folks who sold off their ZEN fetchland set, you'd be surprised how much of a Modern deck you already have. A new Modern player coming from Standard is much more likely to build something like that deck, in which case he cares more about access to V-Clique, EE, Shackles, etc.
The truth about Bob is that, since the birth of Modern, he's been a very powerful card that has seen MUCH less play than he was expected to. Jund was the only Tier 1 deck he was ever in, but he saw fringe play in things like the RB Burn deck or the Aggro Loam deck. He has never been a pillar of the format, nor has Goyf since the Nacatl banning, and you can play nearly anything in Modern without either of them.
thats why i used the conservative 18, as 32 may include any extra boxs from distributers, and stores may very well use those as singles stock.
I know 4/6 stores here are either full at preorders or drafting them, which is to the people.
Not sure about the other 2.
Big thanks to Rivenor for the sig!!
[/CARD], Doubling Season, Cryptic Command, Mutavault, etc. plus the Planeswalkers.
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Thoughtseize and Mutavault at mythic would be a slap in the face given that they are pretty simple utility cards. Mutavault in particular given that it was the EXACT example Maro used as a card that would NOT be a mythic rare.
And the saddest part? I could still see them both being bumped to mythic.
Well, the ultimate goal of a profit making enterprise is to increase shareholder wealth. You generally do that by increasing overall company profit. Hence, if they are making money off the way they do it, that is "good".
Gouging the customer would lead to people not buying the product. This is not the case. People are buying the product and will play in the Grand Prix that uses the product. As far as making it as good as possible, clearly that is a goal of most companies. Just because you don't think they accomplished that, doesn't mean they are not trying to do it.
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But it's not. That's the thing.
Demand is high relative to other Modern/Legacy staples but the aggregate demand is WAY LESS than Standard.
Sitting on any cards that aren't on the reserved list sounds like a BAD BAD idea. Especially with WotC being explicit they plan on reprinting staples. With MM being a success already you know that MM 2 is around the corner and who's to say there won't be reprints of reprints.