They will string it out to sell more in the future. There is no reason for them to do it now . They just printed the enemy ones and most people that want them either have them or can get them without breaking the bank. They are not going to just quickly reprint cause the price jumped up just before modern PTQ season. They can't reprint everything in abundance for nothing- bad for business.
It's not WotC's stance, it's just a common argument made by posters who don't believe we'll see fetchland reprints any time soon.
Personally I'm more inclined to agree with your line of thought, if fetchlands are to be reprinted there's no better time than while the shocklands are Standard legal.
I'd argue that there is no WORSE time. When you can just run 8-12 fetchlands and 1 of each shockland, without serious punishment for doing so (Wasteland, Blood Moon) then it actually removes incentive for you to play guilds at all, but just build crazy 5 color aggro and control decks. It's bad for innovation as well.
anyone think there's a chance engineered explosives will be in the set? i mean, there's only so many rare slots, and they're already putting 10 filter lands in.
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anyone think there's a chance engineered explosives will be in the set? i mean, there's only so many rare slots, and they're already putting 10 filter lands in.
Don't worry about rare slots filling up. They'll reprint this as a mythic, that way you have little chance of actually getting one. Can't let the price come down, you know.
Don't worry about rare slots filling up. They'll reprint this as a mythic, that way you have little chance of actually getting one. Can't let the price come down, you know.
I'd argue that there is no WORSE time. When you can just run 8-12 fetchlands and 1 of each shockland, without serious punishment for doing so (Wasteland, Blood Moon) then it actually removes incentive for you to play guilds at all, but just build crazy 5 color aggro and control decks. It's bad for innovation as well.
The do that now, with Farseek. And most top decks these days are triple color, not guild colors.
I think it would make sense to reprint the Onslaught fetchs in DGM.
WOTC seriously need to reprint fetch lands asap though, they are way too expensive for most normal people who can barely afford standard. Just put them in m14 along with lots of non basic land hate to punish greedy mana bases.
The fetch lands aren't bad at all. Most expensive ones are around 30$ which is just staple cards from standard. Not really an issue at all as well as rarity either since they didn't rotate all that long ago either.
WOTC seriously need to reprint fetch lands asap though, they are way too expensive for most normal people who can barely afford standard. Just put them in m14 along with lots of non basic land hate to punish greedy mana bases.
They only jumped in price recently. Standard is way expensive for a competitive deck. Sme of the 3 and 4 color standard list I saw we're well into the hundreds.
Dropping prices too far can erode consumer confidence as well. That's not good for the game either.
I do think we will see these in modern masters 2 down the road.
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#2: Commander's Arsenal Distribution
Like From the Vault, Commander's Arsenal was intentionally produced in small quantities so as to be a collectible. Unfortunately, those quantities were likely too small. It's cool to excite your customers, but not cool to frustrate them.
We took this reaction into account when finalizing the print size for Modern Masters; we have no interest in a repeat performance.
While the run is limited, I think this is meant as an assurance that the run won't be quite as limited as some people have feared; this definitely suggests that they aren't going to limit this to anything so limited as a case per store or such.
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While the run is limited, I think this is meant as an assurance that the run won't be quite as limited as some people have feared; this definitely suggests that they aren't going to limit this to anything so limited as a case per store or such.
While I tend to be positive, saying that this will not make the same mistakes as CA is not saying all that much. There is a wide chasm of quantities between CA and the hope of Coldsnap numbers that a lot of us are hoping for.
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If that's your "casual," what on earth is required for "formal," a butler in livery shuffling the decks whilst a pianist plays Brahms in front of a tapestry?
Onslaught fetches will come, but not in this block. Earliest you can hope for them is M15 so that they would only be in standard with shocks for a few months.
is is meant as an assurance that the run won't be quite as limited as some people have feared; this definitely suggests that they aren't going to limit this to anything so limited as a case per store or such.
This evening, I was having a conversation with my LGS owner. He's also one of the largest MTG singles sellers in the US. He is of the impression that this will be an extremely limited run. As he has some of the lowest pack prices around (for standard sets) I asked if he would be selling below the MSRP for Masters.
His reply was: "Packs will probably be $9.99"
Now consider that his pack price for a standard set is $2.85 and you can imagine my consternation at this reply. He elaborated a bit further by indicating that singles sellers like him would exhaust WOTC supply rapidly and that Ebay would end up being the only outlet for said singles sellers to get more sealed product.
Obviously, the set is 6 months out so this is entirely subject to change. I only hope he's wrong and that WOTC learned lessons from Arsenal. Not that Arsenal is even a fair comparison, but I can certainly see why singles sellers would go crazy over MM. I just hope they produce enough to discourage hoarding and allow for actual sealed events at reasonable prices.
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I may be purchasing a box. The staples that cross into Legacy from Modern are getting too pricey and I love cracking packs. A Tarmogoyf could be traded for what I need.
I hope it's not crazy limited like everyone thinks it might be. My local store has been taking $25 down payments on boxes saying that they will be selling the boxes for like $200 and that they expect to get like 50 to 60 boxes. They have already taken like 40 preorders.
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I hope it's not crazy limited like everyone thinks it might be. My local store has been taking $25 down payments on boxes saying that they will be selling the boxes for like $200 and that they expect to get like 50 to 60 boxes. They have already taken like 40 preorders.
Totally not buying this if packs are $10 a pop. $10 for a pack of Master's Edition, without all the really good cards I want? No thanks buddy, pass.
I think we can expect this to be worth the price of admission even at $10 a pack. Sure we're going to see some questionable choices maybe aimed at EDH or casual players (like maybe Doubling Season or Duplicant)... but even then, a foil in every pack is pretty nice. Popping a foil Cursecatcher or Soul Warden would still give you trade bait.
I'm shocked though that shops would even consider box preorders. We still really don't know how much these shops will truely see. I don't expect a shorting, but even if they only get 30 boxes, that's 10 people who won't get their boxes and the shop can't run special drafts or sealed in celebration.
I'm shocked though that shops would even consider box preorders. We still really don't know how much these shops will truely see.
This and only one card has been spoiled so far...
I don't plan to pre-order until I know what I'm getting, then I'll see the price tag to know if it's worth it. I already own some staples so knowing this is MM1 of many more to come, I dont see how you can throw 200$ at a mystery box.
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I'd argue that there is no WORSE time. When you can just run 8-12 fetchlands and 1 of each shockland, without serious punishment for doing so (Wasteland, Blood Moon) then it actually removes incentive for you to play guilds at all, but just build crazy 5 color aggro and control decks. It's bad for innovation as well.
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Don't worry about rare slots filling up. They'll reprint this as a mythic, that way you have little chance of actually getting one. Can't let the price come down, you know.
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It's a $15 card?
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The do that now, with Farseek. And most top decks these days are triple color, not guild colors.
I think it would make sense to reprint the Onslaught fetchs in DGM.
The fetch lands aren't bad at all. Most expensive ones are around 30$ which is just staple cards from standard. Not really an issue at all as well as rarity either since they didn't rotate all that long ago either.
They only jumped in price recently. Standard is way expensive for a competitive deck. Sme of the 3 and 4 color standard list I saw we're well into the hundreds.
Dropping prices too far can erode consumer confidence as well. That's not good for the game either.
I do think we will see these in modern masters 2 down the road.
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While the run is limited, I think this is meant as an assurance that the run won't be quite as limited as some people have feared; this definitely suggests that they aren't going to limit this to anything so limited as a case per store or such.
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Modern:
- GW Birthing Pod(?)
Legacy:
- UWR Delver
Hopefully Modern really takes off as a result.
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No, it wouldn't. Those cards, with shock lands, would ruin standard.
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This evening, I was having a conversation with my LGS owner. He's also one of the largest MTG singles sellers in the US. He is of the impression that this will be an extremely limited run. As he has some of the lowest pack prices around (for standard sets) I asked if he would be selling below the MSRP for Masters.
His reply was: "Packs will probably be $9.99"
Now consider that his pack price for a standard set is $2.85 and you can imagine my consternation at this reply. He elaborated a bit further by indicating that singles sellers like him would exhaust WOTC supply rapidly and that Ebay would end up being the only outlet for said singles sellers to get more sealed product.
Obviously, the set is 6 months out so this is entirely subject to change. I only hope he's wrong and that WOTC learned lessons from Arsenal. Not that Arsenal is even a fair comparison, but I can certainly see why singles sellers would go crazy over MM. I just hope they produce enough to discourage hoarding and allow for actual sealed events at reasonable prices.
Good gods. Calling in a box preorder now for my sigged store... they're charging $134.40 plus tax for 24-pack boxes!
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Totally not buying this if packs are $10 a pop. $10 for a pack of Master's Edition, without all the really good cards I want? No thanks buddy, pass.
I would be absolutely shocked if these sell for less than $10 a pack.
I expect Modern to explode when this comes out, I'd had close to 20 people tel me they were waiting for this to come out to jump into modern.
I'm shocked though that shops would even consider box preorders. We still really don't know how much these shops will truely see. I don't expect a shorting, but even if they only get 30 boxes, that's 10 people who won't get their boxes and the shop can't run special drafts or sealed in celebration.
This and only one card has been spoiled so far...
I don't plan to pre-order until I know what I'm getting, then I'll see the price tag to know if it's worth it. I already own some staples so knowing this is MM1 of many more to come, I dont see how you can throw 200$ at a mystery box.