Come on, that's just.... oh jeez i am not at all looking forward to my aggro deck butting heads with this card. Ugh.
Pure G/W decks can now have their turns like this:
Turn 1: durr
Turn 2: hurrdurr (or a Farseek)
Turn 3: hurrr Centaur Healer durrhurr
Turn 4: Restoration Angel or Advent of the Wurm HURR LOLS GET RECKT!
Turn 5: For real though bro..Thragtusk.
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Damn that is a crazy nonbo you just found. think about it again, monsuir.
if you're talking about the "can only attack alone" part, it won't matter, because that only cares about being declared as an attacker. It can be put into play attacking just fine.
edit cause of above. good catch, didn't realize it was an attacking trigger and not a damage trigger. my apologies
edit edit. still think it will work because it can't trigger until after blocks. you're dead jim
Wait, Vorel doesn't work on Planeswalkers... But what about Planeswalkers that have turned into Creatures? Technically, they still have their Loyalty Counters while they've been transformed into creatures... So, couldn't he Double Gideon's Loyalty when you've used his 0 ability?
Exactly what I was wondering. His 4 toughness isn't terrible, but could he fit in some sort of Master Biomancer deck after rotation? I'm still waiting to see Master Biomancer get his due.
And /just/ when I was about to scrap my Animar deck, too! My friend who plays Vorosh the Hunter is also going to flip out when he sees this.
Pretty cool cards all around. Not really interested in the demon but it does something interesting. I really love Advent of Wurm, that's a really powerful token generating spell...
Master is a very fun effect to read and being in the two colors of direct life loss makes it exciting. Constructed playability is questionable but w/e.
Slightly ok with Vorel, at least it's not a huge under the curve lamer like melek, it's appropriately sized and has a decent effect. Makes sense flavor wise for it to not work with enchantments and PWs but that doesn't make me any less upset about it
Advent is the nuts, at worst playable. vanilla army loxodon smiter into this lets go.
It's an instant speed 5/5 trampler for 4. Wtf do you people want seriously? It has applications in populate/ above the curve beats decks, or in Bant control/ flash. I seriously think anyone mad at this card for any reason other than losing an attacker to instant speed wurm, should go home and make their own awesome card game and leave the rest of us alone.
Wait, Vorel doesn't work on Planeswalkers... But what about Planeswalkers that have turned into Creatures? Technically, they still have their Loyalty Counters while they've been transformed into creatures... So, couldn't he Double Gideon's Loyalty when you've used his 0 ability?
Populate is going to be bonkers in RGD draft, I think. There are already plenty of good token makers in GTC.
This card probably doesn't do much to help that particular archetype. It's a rare that you won't see very often. It certainly will make it better if you have it, but it won't make or break the archetype.
Also, it's DGR draft, not RGD. RGD was the original, D will be drafted first this time around.
That merfolk is... meh. I guess Experiment Kraj decks just got another option for a commander, though. Now, tha demon... Malfegor wants him in his army of doom, RIGHT NOW.
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I know it's early and all but Vorel makes me think there might be potential behind the notion of quest counters returning in Theros: the fact that it specifies ANY counter raises an eyebrow.
But it doesn't double counters on Enchantments. Your reasoning is still fair though, maybe that's exactly why he doesn't.
Don't like him though. Wanted a bombier commander. I suppose I could play Zegana... I'll wait to see what Emarra does first. I need to use all my G EDH stuff for something.
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Vorel's flavor text should be "Build around me." Johnny likes.
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Pure G/W decks can now have their turns like this:
Turn 1: durr
Turn 2: hurrdurr (or a Farseek)
Turn 3: hurrr Centaur Healer durrhurr
Turn 4: Restoration Angel or Advent of the Wurm HURR LOLS GET RECKT!
Turn 5: For real though bro..Thragtusk.
And this..I actually lol'd when I read the Master.
Just saying. Just saying.
if you're talking about the "can only attack alone" part, it won't matter, because that only cares about being declared as an attacker. It can be put into play attacking just fine.
edit cause of above. good catch, didn't realize it was an attacking trigger and not a damage trigger. my apologies
edit edit. still think it will work because it can't trigger until after blocks. you're dead jim
Populate is going to be bonkers in RGD draft, I think. There are already plenty of good token makers in GTC.
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Exactly what I was wondering. His 4 toughness isn't terrible, but could he fit in some sort of Master Biomancer deck after rotation? I'm still waiting to see Master Biomancer get his due.
And /just/ when I was about to scrap my Animar deck, too! My friend who plays Vorosh the Hunter is also going to flip out when he sees this.
Pretty cool cards all around. Not really interested in the demon but it does something interesting. I really love Advent of Wurm, that's a really powerful token generating spell...
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Slightly ok with Vorel, at least it's not a huge under the curve lamer like melek, it's appropriately sized and has a decent effect. Makes sense flavor wise for it to not work with enchantments and PWs but that doesn't make me any less upset about it
Advent is the nuts, at worst playable. vanilla army loxodon smiter into this lets go.
How so?
Read the card again ;).
At least someone is thinking instead of these pass/fail posts.
The instant wurm is very powerfull and somewhat a cool design too.
The merfolk legend is solid, very usefull but little boring.
On SCG. 2/1 for 1WB with a weak duress effect.
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He would as far as I can tell
That's pretty sweet for Bant decks
This card probably doesn't do much to help that particular archetype. It's a rare that you won't see very often. It certainly will make it better if you have it, but it won't make or break the archetype.
Also, it's DGR draft, not RGD. RGD was the original, D will be drafted first this time around.
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Master of Cruelties...I want to use him with Rogue's Passage, even if it seems unwieldy to do so.
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And I'm pretty sure this can affect gideon after activating his 0. At instant speed before combat damage is applied, no less.
But it doesn't double counters on Enchantments. Your reasoning is still fair though, maybe that's exactly why he doesn't.
Don't like him though. Wanted a bombier commander. I suppose I could play Zegana... I'll wait to see what Emarra does first. I need to use all my G EDH stuff for something.
What makes you say that? Advent is a rare, and the only good c/u token makers in GTC are Ubris Protector and Miming Slime.
The wurm is just insane, i'm gonna need to find a place for him in my Selesnya deck.
Loved the rakdos mythic kinda cool.