Well, there goes me hoping Simic gets the push it needs. Vorel is just terrible.
I'm sick of paying UG to do effects that have virtually no impact.
....Really? Increasing Savagery, Evolve,Bioshift, Master Biomancer,and he has no impact? There is an unblockable Simic evolver and a multitude of blue spells that grant it. I dont know if everyone was just expecting something flashy or what, but come on! He's a 3 drop badass that can't be speared. What do you want, a Simic cookie?
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Can we please get some Dimir spoilers? Seriously, all the other guilds have had something shown I think.
Uh, you realize you have to declare him as an attacker for him to do anything, right? Kaalia does nothing for him.
Well... If that does not work, we still have Whispersilk Cloak and other tools...
So... Kaalia is, like, insane now. (More so then she already was.)
And for those silly people who are about to say "RTFC"?
From the Comprehensive rules:
It triggers on the creature being unblocked. It does not care if it was decalred as an attacker or put into play attacking.
So... Read the rules before commenting on how cards work people.
You need to RTFC again - it doesn't affect PWs or Enchantments.
You Need to RTFC again. It doesn't say "non-enchantment, non-planeswalker permanent", it says artifact creature or land. If you animate Gideon, he is a creature and you can double his Counters.
You don't call "dying to removal" if the removal is more expensive in resources than the creature. If you have to spend BG (Abrupt Decay), or W + basic land (PtE) to remove a 1G, that is not "dying to removal". Strictly speaking Goyf dies to removal, but actually your removal is dying to Goyf.
You don't call "dying to removal" if the removal is more expensive in resources than the creature. If you have to spend BG (Abrupt Decay), or W + basic land (PtE) to remove a 1G, that is not "dying to removal". Strictly speaking Goyf dies to removal, but actually your removal is dying to Goyf.
Allowing you to ultimate PWs the turn you play them is pretty absurd.
And yet, the ability to do that has never been very impactful. Modern has both gilder bairn AND doubling season and neither has spawned a PW control deck in modern, not even a tier 2-3 deck. The reason it can't have PW on it is because this would be a very strong 'casual EDH general' (i.e. EDH where people don't play removal / disruption) and they didn't want to make her to standout.
I wouldn't have minded this card if they hadn't printed a MUCH better version at uncommon already (and btw having it be as an untap instead of a tap ability is way better because it's easier to combo off with it).
gilder bairn is one of my favorite cards. It's my favorite pauper EDH general and just about everything about the card, art, flavor text, ability, synergy, etc..., is amazing. This card just feels so meh to me though. In terms of power level it SHOULD be legendary rare >>> uncommon when you have two cards that are aiming to do the exact same thing within when both are printed within the last few years (especially because of the "power creep" that has been happening for creatures these last few years), I just expected more.
Finally, I'm mostly just annoyed at Simic this block because it was such a giant tease. They give us master of the pearl trident, promise us 2 sets of merfolk to go with it, and so far, not a single playable one has emerged. (I swear the only two merfolk in the whole block are going to be the leader / champion - which makes no flavor sense btw)
The master just broke standard in half. Someone will break this guy, i can see this card being a 10-15+ mythic. That wurm token creator is sweet!!! Watch out for wurms on turn 3 in standard!! Now what would it have killed wizards to add loyalty counters to the list of counters that vorel added?
Even if the card states that he 'can only attack alone'?
I take it Kaalia's text override that?
Hes a cool card thats for damn sure. Him having a 4 toughness is big.
He can only be declared an attacker alone, but if an effect puts him onto the battlefield attacking then he was never declared, therefore the whole "Can only attack alone" clause never gets checked. He then proceeds to spit in the face of whatever unlucky sob gets in his way.
He can only be declared an attacker alone, but if an effect puts him onto the battlefield attacking then he was never declared, therefore the whole "Can only attack alone" clause never gets checked. He then proceeds to spit in the face of whatever unlucky sob gets in his way.
Cool I had a feeling that was so, just wasnt sure.
Seeing his cool ability just made me pass up the fact that he also has firststrike AND deathtouch. Considering he MUST be block he can kill just about anything and live to tell the day of it. I think he might be a decent card on that alone.
Five rares and three mythics spoiled so far and all the rares are better/more playable than every single one of the mythics (not that Ral Zarek is bad).
Master of Cruelties is just freaking terrible. I hope there's some hope for at least ONE good Rakdos rare. I'm so disappointed by what they did with that guild in this block...
The wurm is powerful, sure, but don't forget that being a token makes it a bit more vulnerable. It dies to bounce and blink, though AFAIK, neither of those effects see play right now (outside of Azorius Charm, I guess). We'll see if its presence is going to make such cards more popular.
Vorel does not excite me, either, but what would you expect from a rare legend (not even a mythic one, at that)? It's not like he's going to be the only new toy for the Simic, we still got a proper mythic to look forward to. Don't really care about him in Commander, since I don't play that. In Limited, he's a very nice Evolve enabler thanks to his big butt, which gives him at least one counter to play with right out of the gate. And getting another wall that will get out of control sooner or later is just what the Simic want.
The demon is a perfect mythic design: splashy, unique, but probably not powerful enough to explode in price. It's difficult to kill with double block (you need two 4/X creatures, or else he's just going to kill the bigger one), but we do have enough removal to make that a non-issue. Also, it doesn't interact well with Unleash: if it attacks alone, that means that the rest of the team stay to block, except that they can't.
Master of Cruelties is sweet! Awesome design! All the creatures must die and the player will stay in severe pain indefinitely (1 life). So Rakdos, so awesome.
Vorel does not excite me, either, but what would you expect from a rare legend (not even a mythic one, at that)? It's not like he's going to be the only new toy for the Simic, we still got a proper mythic to look forward to. Don't really care about him in Commander, since I don't play that. In Limited, he's a very nice Evolve enabler thanks to his big butt, which gives him at least one counter to play with right out of the gate. And getting another wall that will get out of control sooner or later is just what the Simic want.
The problem with Vorel is that both of the other champions spoiled so far have been interesting and exciting with effects you can build around, Vorel is a 1/4 with a mediocre activated ability that doesnt really do anything by itself. Without even seeing the other 7 cards in the cycle it already feels like Simic got shafted in the champion departmen.
With first strike and deathtouch and that ability of his, that master basically has infinite power. The only time it matters is if it attacks a planeswalker.
The problem with Vorel is that both of the other champions spoiled so far have been interesting and exciting with effects you can build around, Vorel is a 1/4 with a mediocre activated ability that doesnt really do anything by itself. Without even seeing the other 7 cards in the cycle it already feels like Simic got shafted in the champion departmen.
I dunno, "Play permanents with counters" sounds about as exciting as "Don't play non-creatures" and "Play lots of instants and sorceries" to me.
The problem with Vorel is that both of the other champions spoiled so far have been interesting and exciting with effects you can build around, Vorel is a 1/4 with a mediocre activated ability that doesnt really do anything by itself. Without even seeing the other 7 cards in the cycle it already feels like Simic got shafted in the champion departmen.
What does Melek do by himself? "Play with the top Card of your library revealed". Nothing more. You need to build around him, just like you need with Vorel.
I dunno, "Play permanents with counters" sounds about as exciting as "Don't play non-creatures" and "Play lots of instants and sorceries" to me.
With all due respect, why are you a Simic fan then? Even back in old Rav, the Simic were highly creature and counter oriented. I can understand not being excited, but what were you expecting from the evolution guild?
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....Really? Increasing Savagery, Evolve,Bioshift, Master Biomancer,and he has no impact? There is an unblockable Simic evolver and a multitude of blue spells that grant it. I dont know if everyone was just expecting something flashy or what, but come on! He's a 3 drop badass that can't be speared. What do you want, a Simic cookie?
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I thought EXACTLY the same
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Well... If that does not work, we still have Whispersilk Cloak and other tools...
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You Need to RTFC again. It doesn't say "non-enchantment, non-planeswalker permanent", it says artifact creature or land. If you animate Gideon, he is a creature and you can double his Counters.
And YOU need to remember that Gideon isn't always a Planeswalker...
"I hope to have such a death... lying in triumph atop the broken bodies of those who slew me..."
Wrong. Rules state he just needs to be unblocked. He works just fine with Kaalia.
"I hope to have such a death... lying in triumph atop the broken bodies of those who slew me..."
And yet, the ability to do that has never been very impactful. Modern has both gilder bairn AND doubling season and neither has spawned a PW control deck in modern, not even a tier 2-3 deck. The reason it can't have PW on it is because this would be a very strong 'casual EDH general' (i.e. EDH where people don't play removal / disruption) and they didn't want to make her to standout.
I wouldn't have minded this card if they hadn't printed a MUCH better version at uncommon already (and btw having it be as an untap instead of a tap ability is way better because it's easier to combo off with it).
gilder bairn is one of my favorite cards. It's my favorite pauper EDH general and just about everything about the card, art, flavor text, ability, synergy, etc..., is amazing. This card just feels so meh to me though. In terms of power level it SHOULD be legendary rare >>> uncommon when you have two cards that are aiming to do the exact same thing within when both are printed within the last few years (especially because of the "power creep" that has been happening for creatures these last few years), I just expected more.
Finally, I'm mostly just annoyed at Simic this block because it was such a giant tease. They give us master of the pearl trident, promise us 2 sets of merfolk to go with it, and so far, not a single playable one has emerged. (I swear the only two merfolk in the whole block are going to be the leader / champion - which makes no flavor sense btw)
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Even if the card states that he 'can only attack alone'?
I take it Kaalia's text override that?
Hes a cool card thats for damn sure. Him having a 4 toughness is big.
He can only be declared an attacker alone, but if an effect puts him onto the battlefield attacking then he was never declared, therefore the whole "Can only attack alone" clause never gets checked. He then proceeds to spit in the face of whatever unlucky sob gets in his way.
Cool I had a feeling that was so, just wasnt sure.
Seeing his cool ability just made me pass up the fact that he also has firststrike AND deathtouch. Considering he MUST be block he can kill just about anything and live to tell the day of it. I think he might be a decent card on that alone.
Looks fun.
Exponential card drawing engine anyone? Bioshift for a quick boost whenever needed.
The lightning bolt is superfluous. Kaalia will deal 2 combat damage in the combat damage step, putting your opponent to -1 life.
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Master of Cruelties is just freaking terrible. I hope there's some hope for at least ONE good Rakdos rare. I'm so disappointed by what they did with that guild in this block...
Vorel does not excite me, either, but what would you expect from a rare legend (not even a mythic one, at that)? It's not like he's going to be the only new toy for the Simic, we still got a proper mythic to look forward to. Don't really care about him in Commander, since I don't play that. In Limited, he's a very nice Evolve enabler thanks to his big butt, which gives him at least one counter to play with right out of the gate. And getting another wall that will get out of control sooner or later is just what the Simic want.
The demon is a perfect mythic design: splashy, unique, but probably not powerful enough to explode in price. It's difficult to kill with double block (you need two 4/X creatures, or else he's just going to kill the bigger one), but we do have enough removal to make that a non-issue. Also, it doesn't interact well with Unleash: if it attacks alone, that means that the rest of the team stay to block, except that they can't.
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The problem with Vorel is that both of the other champions spoiled so far have been interesting and exciting with effects you can build around, Vorel is a 1/4 with a mediocre activated ability that doesnt really do anything by itself. Without even seeing the other 7 cards in the cycle it already feels like Simic got shafted in the champion departmen.
I dunno, "Play permanents with counters" sounds about as exciting as "Don't play non-creatures" and "Play lots of instants and sorceries" to me.
What does Melek do by himself? "Play with the top Card of your library revealed". Nothing more. You need to build around him, just like you need with Vorel.
With all due respect, why are you a Simic fan then? Even back in old Rav, the Simic were highly creature and counter oriented. I can understand not being excited, but what were you expecting from the evolution guild?
There is buried treasure everywhere...in a graveyard.
Master of Cruelties is interesting. He can clog up the ground like nobodies business even if they wanted to attack into him.
His effect is interesting. It's a take on Phage, which is nice to see again w/o the "you lose" on it.
I dunno how to really evaluate this card. It will win Limited no questions asked.
The Merfolk is bad
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