i agree, some people owe tk an appology, but thats my opinion.
As for Varolz, im just excited to see him.
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I fear I won't have much time to play Magic these days.
I get to watch worlds develop around me.
I get to watch great leaders, terrible oppressors, and trend setters rise and fall.
Limited, Standard, Modern, everything is a different playing field I feel I can observe, but will not actually touch.
I look forward to the stories I will hear.
And more so to the ones I will watch unfold first hand.
Isn't the unknown exciting?
Uhh.. I still think he is real. Somebody claimjng he is not due to some "sources" is not exactly convincing.
*epic facepalm*
No, you are losing to "pros" because you are bad and paranoid.
Question everything. Seriously though, aside from the counter removal death touch, I think his abilities are accurate. I mean, a million ppl can debate mossbridges wording, whatever. MTG fans automaticly assume they know better then ppl who created the damn game and art.
"This wording makes no sense!" or "Lamest art ever, the proportions are off!". Everyones a professional..... nit picker.
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There is buried treasure everywhere...in a graveyard.
Question everything. Seriously though, aside from the counter removal death touch, I think his abilities are accurate. I mean, a million ppl can debate mossbridges wording, whatever. MTG fans automaticly assume they know better then ppl who created the damn game and art.
"This wording makes no sense!" or "Lamest art ever, the proportions are off!". Everyones a professional..... nit picker.
Nit pickers find things. They are good at it. things like that Mossbridge Troll's ability is static, and really only works if it is a static ability. The fake Varolz has that static ability linked with the triggered addition of a +1/+1 counter, but I get the feeling that if Wizards wanted to make this ability they would have worded the ability to clearly distinguish the static and triggered portions of this linked ability, even if that would mean more words.
On a side note, if I were designing this card, I would have made the +1/+1 counter portion of this ability only trigger upon successful regeneration of the creature, as that would make the card much easier to understand.
As for the real Varolz, I am confident in one thing about the card. Because it is a troll, it will probably have regenerate (23 out of 24 existing trolls have regenerate, and the odd troll out has persist). Other than that, and that he has another ability (safe assumption there...) there isn't really anything we can know until we see the real card (unless there is something in the lore that I don't know, I don't follow the story at all).
The lore we were given implies that more mushrooms grow on his back every time he gets shoved back, so I suspect the Regenerate comes with +1/+1 counters, a temporary P/T boost, or maybe Saprolings.
The lore we were given implies that more mushrooms grow on his back every time he gets shoved back, so I suspect the Regenerate comes with +1/+1 counters, a temporary P/T boost, or maybe Saprolings.
A temp boost would be basicly useless. As for it being saps, as much as I like them, it wouldn't make much sense. It would in no real way help a Golgari deck, and baring Var having a sac'n'pump ability, would make Var a pretty weak legend. Has anyone else given this much thought?
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Uhh.. I still think he is real. Somebody claimjng he is not due to some "sources" is not exactly convincing.
That's cool, but my source gave us Maze's End before it was spoiled. He just gave me the regular artist on Render Silent. I mean, he could be trolling me by giving me a doctored pic after having proven reliable, but that would destroy any trust I have in his info. Now, sources don't give me repeated info that's good just to troll me once. They like helping out this community.
And I'm not sure I voiced it in this thread, but as I was discussing with another mod whether this was real, I fell on the real side. I wanted this to be real. So I'm kinda bummed this is a Gray Ogre+.
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She wants a ride on the pony, dude.
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And I'm not sure I voiced it in this thread, but as I was discussing with another mod whether this was real, I fell on the real side. I wanted this to be real. So I'm kinda bummed this is a Gray Ogre+.
2/2 for 1BG... With hopefully awesome abilities...
It is sad that the Fake wasn't the actual, though.
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"Death is nothing to us, since when we are, Death has not come, and when Death has come, we are not."
-Epicurus
G: Regenerate
When a creature other than ~ is put into your graveyard from the battlefield put X +1/+1 counters on ~ where X is the creatures power.
2/2
Probably OP, but interacts well with Golgari, has some similarities to Jarad. Might be a tad too good. Could replace X with a number, and if you replaced it with say, 2, you could add "target player loses 2 life."
G: Regenerate
When a creature other than ~ is put into your graveyard from the battlefield put X +1/+1 counters on ~ where X is the creatures power.
2/2
Probably OP, but interacts well with Golgari, has some similarities to Jarad. Might be a tad too good. Could replace X with a number, and if you replaced it with say, 2, you could add "target player loses 2 life."
When ~ destroys a creature, put a +1/+1 counter on it.
Remove a +1/+1 counter: Regenerate
2/2
...Nowhere near as awesome as Ruric-Thar though. Maybe it gets two counters on kill? Meh. Or how about remove counters to destroy target creature? Dunno, but I feel like I'm grasping.
Here's to hoping he'll be as good as the fake. Who knows, maybe he has the fake's abilities but is at TK's suggested cost and P/T.
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"Death is nothing to us, since when we are, Death has not come, and when Death has come, we are not."
-Epicurus
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Bant Flash
Bant Enchant
Naya Mid
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It'd be cool if instead of dies it was put into your gy from anywhere, lotleth synergy.
As for Varolz, im just excited to see him.
I get to watch great leaders, terrible oppressors, and trend setters rise and fall.
Limited, Standard, Modern, everything is a different playing field I feel I can observe, but will not actually touch.
I look forward to the stories I will hear.
And more so to the ones I will watch unfold first hand.
Isn't the unknown exciting?
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Varolz, the Scar-Striped
Whenever a creature is put into to the graveyard from anywhere put a +1/+1 counter on Varolz, the Scar-Striped.
Remove a +1/+1 counter from Varolz, the Scar-Striped, regenerate it.
3/3
Give irony and sarcasm, when ignorance and stupidity is found.
The whip is kept for special occasions
Question everything. Seriously though, aside from the counter removal death touch, I think his abilities are accurate. I mean, a million ppl can debate mossbridges wording, whatever. MTG fans automaticly assume they know better then ppl who created the damn game and art.
"This wording makes no sense!" or "Lamest art ever, the proportions are off!". Everyones a professional..... nit picker.
There is buried treasure everywhere...in a graveyard.
Nit pickers find things. They are good at it. things like that Mossbridge Troll's ability is static, and really only works if it is a static ability. The fake Varolz has that static ability linked with the triggered addition of a +1/+1 counter, but I get the feeling that if Wizards wanted to make this ability they would have worded the ability to clearly distinguish the static and triggered portions of this linked ability, even if that would mean more words.
On a side note, if I were designing this card, I would have made the +1/+1 counter portion of this ability only trigger upon successful regeneration of the creature, as that would make the card much easier to understand.
As for the real Varolz, I am confident in one thing about the card. Because it is a troll, it will probably have regenerate (23 out of 24 existing trolls have regenerate, and the odd troll out has persist). Other than that, and that he has another ability (safe assumption there...) there isn't really anything we can know until we see the real card (unless there is something in the lore that I don't know, I don't follow the story at all).
A temp boost would be basicly useless. As for it being saps, as much as I like them, it wouldn't make much sense. It would in no real way help a Golgari deck, and baring Var having a sac'n'pump ability, would make Var a pretty weak legend. Has anyone else given this much thought?
There is buried treasure everywhere...in a graveyard.
That's cool, but my source gave us Maze's End before it was spoiled. He just gave me the regular artist on Render Silent. I mean, he could be trolling me by giving me a doctored pic after having proven reliable, but that would destroy any trust I have in his info. Now, sources don't give me repeated info that's good just to troll me once. They like helping out this community.
And I'm not sure I voiced it in this thread, but as I was discussing with another mod whether this was real, I fell on the real side. I wanted this to be real. So I'm kinda bummed this is a Gray Ogre+.
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2/2 for 1BG... With hopefully awesome abilities...
It is sad that the Fake wasn't the actual, though.
-Epicurus
-Standard Decks-
Bant Flash
Bant Enchant
Naya Mid
Name 1GB
Legendary Creature - Troll Warrior
G: Regenerate
When a creature other than ~ is put into your graveyard from the battlefield put X +1/+1 counters on ~ where X is the creatures power.
2/2
Probably OP, but interacts well with Golgari, has some similarities to Jarad. Might be a tad too good. Could replace X with a number, and if you replaced it with say, 2, you could add "target player loses 2 life."
MTGS egos at their finest.
Thoughts on proxies:
Maybe he'll be a mix of Predator Ooze and Experiment One.
Name 1GB
Legendary Creature - Troll Warrior
Deathtouch
When ~ destroys a creature, put a +1/+1 counter on it.
Remove a +1/+1 counter: Regenerate
2/2
...Nowhere near as awesome as Ruric-Thar though. Maybe it gets two counters on kill? Meh. Or how about remove counters to destroy target creature? Dunno, but I feel like I'm grasping.
Here's to hoping he'll be as good as the fake. Who knows, maybe he has the fake's abilities but is at TK's suggested cost and P/T.
-Epicurus
-Standard Decks-
Bant Flash
Bant Enchant
Naya Mid