Maybe they care about the interaction within the community rather than spoon feeding us information?
Look here is the way I see it. All of the cards are going to get spoiled to us anyway so there shouldn't be such a big deal about getting more info about just 1 card.
It was pretty obvious to some of us...if you look at the 'p' in his name, the 'd' and 'l' in his creature type, the extra space in the flavor text....all too much to ignore.
What "p"?
the same p that amost touch the border in Ornithopter ?
Oh That " d " and " l " I don't know but haven't you ever see a card with a missprint or even the gates flavors text( yes it could have been a secrety messenge). Oh that "d" and "l" of a card photo from a unfocussed low pixel camera? Misprint in MTG
Man were at almost 600 posts on a fake card. I wonder why people thought it was real in the first place...Now I think this has dubbed a new act of trolling I would like to call Varolzing.
Everyone is just pissed because they got Varolzed on April 1st like a boss.
[sacrasm]Clearly this is a fake dreg mangler, there's no green at the top. Compare to this pic of a real dreg mangler [/sarcasm] Looking at this pic, I'm no longer thrown off by the P/T box, and my only cause for doubt are the timing and the source.
What "p"?
the same p that amost touch the border in Ornithopter ?
Oh That " d " and " l " I don't know but haven't you ever see a card with a missprint or even the gates flavors text( yes it could have been a secrety messenge). Oh that "d" and "l" of a card photo from a unfocussed low pixel camera? Misprint in MTG
Even the cruddiest Dreg Mangler picture in the nation, the one referred to in my first quote, has a clear gap between the G and the border. This is even though it was taken badly enough that the line under its name appears to be entirely black, just like the OP's picture.
The most recent printing of Ornithopter similarly has a gap between the P and the line. The picture in the OP has no gap, which should have added to my suspicion. (OK, Ninth Edition Ornithopter's P is really close to the line. The gap is still barely there, though.)
Even the cruddiest Dreg Mangler picture in the nation, the one referred to in my first quote, has a clear gap between the G and the border. This is even though it was taken badly enough that the line under its name appears to be entirely black, just like the OP's picture.
The most recent printing of Ornithopter similarly has a gap between the P and the line. The picture in the OP has no gap, which should have added to my suspicion. (OK, Ninth Edition Ornithopter's P is really close to the line. The gap is still barely there, though.)
See what everybody was saying is that there was no way to call it as fake just because of the card its self.
What "p"?
the same p that amost touch the border in Ornithopter ?
Oh That " d " and " l " I don't know but haven't you ever see a card with a missprint or even the gates flavors text( yes it could have been a secrety messenge). Oh that "d" and "l" of a card photo from a unfocussed low pixel camera? Misprint in MTG
See what everybody was saying was that there is no way to call it as fake just because of the card its self.
Given enough suspicious characteristics in the picture, we cannot 100% confirm it as fake, but we can have plenty of justified reasons to call it fake.
Look here is the way I see it. All of the cards are going to get spoiled to us anyway so there shouldn't be such a big deal about getting more info about just 1 card.
Yeah god forbid that the mods honor the wishes of their sources. It's nice that they gave us enough information to debunk this card (although I wish this were the real deal). The sources are doing something that is unnecessary and could potentially get them in trouble, I can see them playing it close. Although the 4 ability Liliana fake spoil that caught the Mods off guard still gives me (a sliver of) hope for Varolz.
Man were at almost 600 posts on a fake card. I wonder why people thought it was real in the first place...Now I think this has dubbed a new act of trolling I would like to call Varolzing.
Everyone is just pissed because they got Varolzed on April 1st like a boss.
Not really, I will admit I would have liked seeing this card in a booster pack, but like most people pointed out the lack of information made it dangle in the air as to whether it was real or not. Plus it gave us something to talk about while we wait.
So real or fake it was a good little something to keep us focused.
And if you want to talk about a good trolling look up the Golden lotus card that got into the actual spoiler list. That was a boss level trick, this was more of a "Well this looks nice even if it isn't real."
If they have spoiled Boros Guildgate at a good resolution and you saw the flavor text you would call it a FAKE don't you?
I actually would have been prone to calling it fake because of the misaligned letters (I also thought the partial Syndicate Enforcer was fake and was suspicious of Rootborn Defenses and its wonky copyright line until they confirmed Populate).
IMO, it is better to regard cards from suspicious sources as fakes and start experimenting with them only after they have been confirmed as real than to treat cards from suspicious sources as real and find out later that all our thought experiments and possible playtesting of a fake card have been for nought.
Varolz, the Scar Striped GB
Whenever <cardname> is dealt damage, you may put that many 1/1 green Saproling creature tokens onto the battlefield. B: Regenerate <cardname>.
2/3
Mods dangling "information" that they claim to have.
Very mature.
what imformation are they withholding? TK is a good guy. As far as we know, the ONLY info they were given was "that varolz costs too much"
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I get to watch worlds develop around me.
I get to watch great leaders, terrible oppressors, and trend setters rise and fall.
Limited, Standard, Modern, everything is a different playing field I feel I can observe, but will not actually touch.
I look forward to the stories I will hear.
And more so to the ones I will watch unfold first hand.
Isn't the unknown exciting?
I'd like to think he's a 3/3 for BGG or BBG. Full color mana cost and a good body. I'm sure regenerate its in there somewhere, probably done by removing counters from him.
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Jace bounce was a -1. He could do it 3 times before he would die. Liliana can only do it once before having to do her +1. Overall very disappointed with her unless we get Madness.
Crap, you're right, she's not as good as one of the single most overpowered cards ever printed. Unplayable!
So, he is either 2 or 3 cmc. Probably 3 because lotleth troll is 2.
He obviously has regen. Either for B or for 1G. Probably 1G because again lotleth troll has B.
He doesn't have shroud because 3cmc troll with shroud has already been done via troll ascetic.
He probably doesn't have deathtouch base because deathtouch is too good with regen.
Probably 3/2 or 3/3.
His abilitiy has to be working with Golgari guild mechanic like Ruric's. Probably it does something with +1/+1 counters. Like 'remove counter: do something' or 'doubles the amount of counters put onto him'.
If it does there should be a way to put counters on him. 'Discard creature' already taken by loltroll, maybe when he deals damage or for mana or for eating cards in GY.
maybe he grants all your creature cards in your graveyard +2/+2? if some of you may recall, wizards hinted when rtr was coming out that there could be a creature with different p/t while in the graveyard
i also expect some sort of regeneration because he's obviously a troll. theres been one troll in the history of mtg that didnt regenerate and that one had persist.
maybe it will be as good as lol troll
maybe he grants all your creature cards in your graveyard +2/+2? if some of you may recall, wizards hinted when rtr was coming out that there could be a creature with different p/t while in the graveyard
This has me very confused. What would be the point in giving creatures in your graveyard + anything? Hell you could give them +1000 and it still wouldn't do anything because its in your graveyard, but even if said creature came back it wouldn't have the plus.
This has me very confused. What would be the point in giving creatures in your graveyard + anything? Hell you could give them +1000 and it still wouldn't do anything because its in your graveyard, but even if said creature came back it wouldn't have the plus.
Scavenge...the guild mechanic
it would make the scavenge give more counters to your creatures
see cards like Dreg Mangler, Slitherhead, and Deadbridge Goliath
idk, i think it would be a cool and creative idea, but i wouldnt want to actually see it on him
There shouldn't be any guessing since people have information but this shows how much the mods actually care.
Maybe they care about the interaction within the community rather than spoon feeding us information?
MTGS egos at their finest.
Thoughts on proxies:
Look here is the way I see it. All of the cards are going to get spoiled to us anyway so there shouldn't be such a big deal about getting more info about just 1 card.
If he gets bigger, he probably starts at 2/2... maybe 2/1?
GWB Junk Stax Ghave BWG
What "p"?
the same p that amost touch the border in Ornithopter ?
Oh That " d " and " l " I don't know but haven't you ever see a card with a missprint or even the gates flavors text( yes it could have been a secrety messenge). Oh that "d" and "l" of a card photo from a unfocussed low pixel camera? Misprint in MTG
Everyone is just pissed because they got Varolzed on April 1st like a boss.
Even the cruddiest Dreg Mangler picture in the nation, the one referred to in my first quote, has a clear gap between the G and the border. This is even though it was taken badly enough that the line under its name appears to be entirely black, just like the OP's picture.
The most recent printing of Ornithopter similarly has a gap between the P and the line. The picture in the OP has no gap, which should have added to my suspicion. (OK, Ninth Edition Ornithopter's P is really close to the line. The gap is still barely there, though.)
but people that said that it was fake just listed alot of things that in no way could mean it as fake
See what everybody was saying is that there was no way to call it as fake just because of the card its self.
Quite a lot of coincidences don't you think?
Given enough suspicious characteristics in the picture, we cannot 100% confirm it as fake, but we can have plenty of justified reasons to call it fake.
If they have spoiled Boros Guildgate at a good resolution and you saw the flavor text you would call it a FAKE don't you?
and we don't even know the circumstances of Fake's storie
Yeah god forbid that the mods honor the wishes of their sources. It's nice that they gave us enough information to debunk this card (although I wish this were the real deal). The sources are doing something that is unnecessary and could potentially get them in trouble, I can see them playing it close. Although the 4 ability Liliana fake spoil that caught the Mods off guard still gives me (a sliver of) hope for Varolz.
I really hope he ends up being closer to Spiritmonger or Thrun, the Last Troll then Toll Ascetic or Lotleth Troll.
Not really, I will admit I would have liked seeing this card in a booster pack, but like most people pointed out the lack of information made it dangle in the air as to whether it was real or not. Plus it gave us something to talk about while we wait.
So real or fake it was a good little something to keep us focused.
And if you want to talk about a good trolling look up the Golden lotus card that got into the actual spoiler list. That was a boss level trick, this was more of a "Well this looks nice even if it isn't real."
I actually would have been prone to calling it fake because of the misaligned letters (I also thought the partial Syndicate Enforcer was fake and was suspicious of Rootborn Defenses and its wonky copyright line until they confirmed Populate).
IMO, it is better to regard cards from suspicious sources as fakes and start experimenting with them only after they have been confirmed as real than to treat cards from suspicious sources as real and find out later that all our thought experiments and possible playtesting of a fake card have been for nought.
If only he could have been a cool plant zombie monster with haste tee hee gigglesnort.Varolz, the Scar Striped
GB
Whenever <cardname> is dealt damage, you may put that many 1/1 green Saproling creature tokens onto the battlefield.
B: Regenerate <cardname>.
2/3
what imformation are they withholding? TK is a good guy. As far as we know, the ONLY info they were given was "that varolz costs too much"
I get to watch great leaders, terrible oppressors, and trend setters rise and fall.
Limited, Standard, Modern, everything is a different playing field I feel I can observe, but will not actually touch.
I look forward to the stories I will hear.
And more so to the ones I will watch unfold first hand.
Isn't the unknown exciting?
He implied they know the card, or at least the mana cost.
Funny they fight to stop spam, but then encourage it with guessing games, in a thread with a confirmed fake card that should have been locked.
If the mods don't hand out some relevant info, theres no reason for this thread to remain open.
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He obviously has regen. Either for B or for 1G. Probably 1G because again lotleth troll has B.
He doesn't have shroud because 3cmc troll with shroud has already been done via troll ascetic.
He probably doesn't have deathtouch base because deathtouch is too good with regen.
Probably 3/2 or 3/3.
His abilitiy has to be working with Golgari guild mechanic like Ruric's. Probably it does something with +1/+1 counters. Like 'remove counter: do something' or 'doubles the amount of counters put onto him'.
If it does there should be a way to put counters on him. 'Discard creature' already taken by loltroll, maybe when he deals damage or for mana or for eating cards in GY.
i also expect some sort of regeneration because he's obviously a troll. theres been one troll in the history of mtg that didnt regenerate and that one had persist.
maybe it will be as good as lol troll
This has me very confused. What would be the point in giving creatures in your graveyard + anything? Hell you could give them +1000 and it still wouldn't do anything because its in your graveyard, but even if said creature came back it wouldn't have the plus.
Scavenge...the guild mechanic
it would make the scavenge give more counters to your creatures
see cards like Dreg Mangler, Slitherhead, and Deadbridge Goliath
idk, i think it would be a cool and creative idea, but i wouldnt want to actually see it on him
inb4 posts of this nature are considered spam and a warning issued