Honestly I think Vindicate fits Sorin's theme well so I could see it. if its in then expect this to fly off the shelves:P but there better be another money card other than Sorin because this set would suck:P So here's to hoping for either Bonfire or Vindicate:D
Honestly I think Vindicate fits Sorin's theme well so I could see it. if its in then expect this to fly off the shelves:P but there better be another money card other than Sorin because this set would suck:P So here's to hoping for either Bonfire or Vindicate:D
Usually the only mythic rare in a planeswalker duel deck is the planeswalker themselves, so it is highly unlikely we will see Bonfire in a duel deck, as for Vindicate, it's not expected to see this, have you seen the price of vindicate lately? this would instantly make the duel deck almost twice it's MSRP.
as for Vindicate, it's not expected to see this, have you seen the price of vindicate lately? this would instantly make the duel deck almost twice it's MSRP.
except it wouldn't, as these are sold at mass retailers like Wal-Mart and Target... if LGSs tried to sell them for anything higher than MSRP, they wouldn't sell any, as everyone would just buy them from those retailers...
Usually the only mythic rare in a planeswalker duel deck is the planeswalker themselves, so it is highly unlikely we will see Bonfire in a duel deck, as for Vindicate, it's not expected to see this, have you seen the price of vindicate lately? this would instantly make the duel deck almost twice it's MSRP.
oh yeah forgot bonfire was mythi:p they might as well put it in and bump Tibalt down to rare cause that's where he should be. and Yes I have but also keep in mind they put thragtusk in two event decks, two copies of Stoneforge in one event deck which were at the time about 15 to 20 per, then of course there's the infamous Rat's nest theme deck from betrayers so don't say it isn't possible. Is it likely?? no, but a player can dream:rolleyes: can't he??:tongue: Also Vindicate is not on the reserve list so its possible it can be reprinted but not in a core or expansion block due to power levels. but a duel deck is not a bad option for a reprint of this because it wouldn't be legal in standard nor modern but would allow more players to get access to it. Also keep in mind EvT was extremely value worthy at msrp at walmarts and target stores where they don't jack up the prices on these.
If anything i'm expecting wizards to screw this up and print the more common removal like Doom Blade or Terror as pieces of removal for this set, cause they just derp like that.
and Yes I have but also keep in mind they put thragtusk in two event decks, two copies of Stoneforge in one event deck which were at the time about 15 to 20 per, then of course there's the infamous Rat's nest theme deck from betrayers so don't say it isn't possible.
The thing is, though, Umezawa's Jitte, Stoneforge Mystic, and Thragtusk were all new or unreleased cards when WotC made the decision to put them in their respective event decks/theme decks. Nobody, not even the people at WotC, knew at the time just how valuable they would become. WotC didn't intend to have cards in those precons that were worth as much or more than the precons' MSRP. Those were all accidents.
Vindicate, on the other hand, has been out for over a decade. Everyone already knows that it's worth over twenty dollars, and that it's price has only gone up since its release.
The thing is, though, Umezawa's Jitte, Stoneforge Mystic, and Thragtusk were all new or unreleased cards when WotC made the decision to put them in their respective event decks/theme decks. Nobody, not even the people at WotC, knew at the time just how valuable they would become. WotC didn't intend to have cards in those precons that were worth as much or more than the precons' MSRP. Those were all accidents.
Vindicate, on the other hand, has been out for over a decade. Everyone already knows that it's worth over twenty dollars, and that it's price has only gone up since its release.
Stoneforge Mystic was not new when it was put in an event deck. Forsythe said that SFM was put into an event deck in order to lower her price. They were worried about her price getting too high and so put her into the NPH event deck to lower her price.
Stoneforge Mystic was not new when it was put in an event deck. Forsythe said that SFM was put into an event deck in order to lower her price. They were worried about her price getting too high and so put her into the NPH event deck to lower her price.
They also have stated that the Secondary Market is a secondary concern. If they feel that Vindicateshould be in here, it will get a spot.
except it wouldn't, as these are sold at mass retailers like Wal-Mart and Target... if LGSs tried to sell them for anything higher than MSRP, they wouldn't sell any, as everyone would just buy them from those retailers...
there are a multitude of unscrupulous LGS's who will buy out the stock to both create a monopoly and to fix prices.
I know of at least 2 that do this in the tri-county area here.
there are a multitude of unscrupulous LGS's who will buy out the stock to both create a monopoly and to fix prices.
I know of at least 2 that do this in the tri-county area here.
In my area, there are still plenty of ivg and grave born available at MSRP at retail stores. And those are two boxes notable for breaking even in price on the backs of a couple cards (brainstorm, scepter, Loam, Niv, Reanimate, cabal Therapy, Entomb, etc.).
I doubt the idea of a store buying all the copies to monopolize the market is a factor in WotC's design process.
I wonder if anyone has notice this. Sorins title is white fading into black WB his colors.
Tibalts is white fading into red WR
Is it possible that Tibalts deck might not be straight Red or Red/Black.
The title is normally the same that appears on the box
Now generally if there is color the color reflects the decks Jace vs Chandra, Goblins vs Elves else the title is generic silver/gold/black. As in the case of ajani vs bolas or elspeth vs tezzert.
Look it most likely is just me being all wild speculation but is it possible?
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I wouldn't read too much into that. The gradient might just be a neat graphical effect. It's probably true, though, that Sorin's deck will have black, and Tibalt's will have red. Remember when people were speculating that Avacyn would be WB and that Elspeth Tirel would be WG?
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You don't call "dying to removal" if the removal is more expensive in resources than the creature. If you have to spend BG (Abrupt Decay), or W + basic land (PtE) to remove a 1G, that is not "dying to removal". Strictly speaking Goyf dies to removal, but actually your removal is dying to Goyf.
It doesn't even make much sense with his theme of pain.
I guess random discard is painful...?
Well, before Tibalt ascended, he "researched" pain. My guess is that the drawing cards part is a reference to his study and discovering new things, and that the discarding at random part is a reference to the fact that he was actually a pretty crappy researcher.
except it wouldn't, as these are sold at mass retailers like Wal-Mart and Target... if LGSs tried to sell them for anything higher than MSRP, they wouldn't sell any, as everyone would just buy them from those retailers...
Pretty much this. We all saw how much value was in Izzet vs. Golgari, and yet every store I go in (Wal-Mart, LGS, etc.) still has many copies at MSRP. While Vindicate would be huge, I wouldn't expect it to be difficult to find at MSRP.
Granted, Star City Games would try to sell it way over MSRP like they did IvG, but hopefully no one's stupid enough to pay that price...
I kinda hope that they do something out of left field and reveal a new version of tibalt with a "here is a premium tibalt that will be the first in a series of one-off cards associated with each block" sort of quote attached to it. a RRR tibalt with good powers would be very exciting and definitely something I could get behind.
I kinda hope that they do something out of left field and reveal a new version of tibalt with a "here is a premium tibalt that will be the first in a series of one-off cards associated with each block" sort of quote attached to it. a RRR tibalt with good powers would be very exciting and definitely something I could get behind.
But, I guess dreamer can only dream.
Its not entirely out of the question I mean we got Jarad Golgari Lich Lord before RTR was out. But thats because that duel deck was suppose to the wet the appitite for RTR so to speak. Um When was the last time they rewrote the wording on a card? Maybe it was a printing mistake and he wasnt suppose to make u discard at random :/
look who knows maybe Tibalt will be a rakdos planeswalker in DRM
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Its not entirely out of the question I mean we got Jarad Golgari Lich Lord before RTR was out. But thats because that duel deck was suppose to the wet the appitite for RTR so to speak. Um When was the last time they rewrote the wording on a card? Maybe it was a printing mistake and he wasnt suppose to make u discard at random :/
look who knows maybe Tibalt will be a rakdos planeswalker in DRM
If you meant Dragon's Maze (DGM), it's almost impossible. For one Tibalt's been too recent for a 2.0, and generally they stick to 5 pws a block. Nicol Bolas was the sole exception ever, and it was a core set PW.
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Usually the only mythic rare in a planeswalker duel deck is the planeswalker themselves, so it is highly unlikely we will see Bonfire in a duel deck, as for Vindicate, it's not expected to see this, have you seen the price of vindicate lately? this would instantly make the duel deck almost twice it's MSRP.
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Tibalt could be the very first one dollar planeswalker.
except it wouldn't, as these are sold at mass retailers like Wal-Mart and Target... if LGSs tried to sell them for anything higher than MSRP, they wouldn't sell any, as everyone would just buy them from those retailers...
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oh yeah forgot bonfire was mythi:p they might as well put it in and bump Tibalt down to rare cause that's where he should be. and Yes I have but also keep in mind they put thragtusk in two event decks, two copies of Stoneforge in one event deck which were at the time about 15 to 20 per, then of course there's the infamous Rat's nest theme deck from betrayers so don't say it isn't possible. Is it likely?? no, but a player can dream:rolleyes: can't he??:tongue: Also Vindicate is not on the reserve list so its possible it can be reprinted but not in a core or expansion block due to power levels. but a duel deck is not a bad option for a reprint of this because it wouldn't be legal in standard nor modern but would allow more players to get access to it. Also keep in mind EvT was extremely value worthy at msrp at walmarts and target stores where they don't jack up the prices on these.
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The thing is, though, Umezawa's Jitte, Stoneforge Mystic, and Thragtusk were all new or unreleased cards when WotC made the decision to put them in their respective event decks/theme decks. Nobody, not even the people at WotC, knew at the time just how valuable they would become. WotC didn't intend to have cards in those precons that were worth as much or more than the precons' MSRP. Those were all accidents.
Vindicate, on the other hand, has been out for over a decade. Everyone already knows that it's worth over twenty dollars, and that it's price has only gone up since its release.
Stoneforge Mystic was not new when it was put in an event deck. Forsythe said that SFM was put into an event deck in order to lower her price. They were worried about her price getting too high and so put her into the NPH event deck to lower her price.
They also have stated that the Secondary Market is a secondary concern. If they feel that Vindicateshould be in here, it will get a spot.
there are a multitude of unscrupulous LGS's who will buy out the stock to both create a monopoly and to fix prices.
I know of at least 2 that do this in the tri-county area here.
In my area, there are still plenty of ivg and grave born available at MSRP at retail stores. And those are two boxes notable for breaking even in price on the backs of a couple cards (brainstorm, scepter, Loam, Niv, Reanimate, cabal Therapy, Entomb, etc.).
I doubt the idea of a store buying all the copies to monopolize the market is a factor in WotC's design process.
I wonder if anyone has notice this. Sorins title is white fading into black WB his colors.
Tibalts is white fading into red WR
Is it possible that Tibalts deck might not be straight Red or Red/Black.
The title is normally the same that appears on the box
Now generally if there is color the color reflects the decks Jace vs Chandra, Goblins vs Elves else the title is generic silver/gold/black. As in the case of ajani vs bolas or elspeth vs tezzert.
Look it most likely is just me being all wild speculation but is it possible?
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I.e The cards are legal in what ever there latest printing is legal in. So for example Brainstorm is not legal standard or modern due to its latest set print is only being from Mercadian Masques. However Searing spear in these duel decks can be used cause its latest print is m13
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And when they speculated that Tezzeret, Agent of Bolas would be UR...
I'm hoping they make a good card for him down the line.
And really, they could have made his +1 something else if they were so afraid of him costing 2.
It doesn't even make much sense with his theme of pain.
I guess random discard is painful...?
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Well, before Tibalt ascended, he "researched" pain. My guess is that the drawing cards part is a reference to his study and discovering new things, and that the discarding at random part is a reference to the fact that he was actually a pretty crappy researcher.
Pretty much this. We all saw how much value was in Izzet vs. Golgari, and yet every store I go in (Wal-Mart, LGS, etc.) still has many copies at MSRP. While Vindicate would be huge, I wouldn't expect it to be difficult to find at MSRP.
Granted, Star City Games would try to sell it way over MSRP like they did IvG, but hopefully no one's stupid enough to pay that price...
But, I guess dreamer can only dream.
Its not entirely out of the question I mean we got Jarad Golgari Lich Lord before RTR was out. But thats because that duel deck was suppose to the wet the appitite for RTR so to speak. Um When was the last time they rewrote the wording on a card? Maybe it was a printing mistake and he wasnt suppose to make u discard at random :/
look who knows maybe Tibalt will be a rakdos planeswalker in DRM
Decks used- GGarruk vs LilianaB, WElsepth vs TezzeretU, WGKnights vs DragonsR
WGRAjani vs BolasRUB, WUVenser vs KothR, RUIzzet vs GolgariGB.
WBSorin vs TibaltBR, WRHeros vs Monsters RG
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If you meant Dragon's Maze (DGM), it's almost impossible. For one Tibalt's been too recent for a 2.0, and generally they stick to 5 pws a block. Nicol Bolas was the sole exception ever, and it was a core set PW.