Name and Number Crunch

  • #1
    I think the distribution of cards will be identical from Return to Ravnica, since the two sets are more or less twins. Gatecrash is of identical size as RTR without the basic lands, and since it also contains five guilds it should have the same color distribution. The only exception I think is that there will be one more multicolor and one fewer land card, as the Grove of the Guardian slot transfers.


    - Names in bold are confirmed, including their card number
    - Names in normal type (not bold) are confirmed, but their exact card number (or even color) is as yet unknown. Their positions may be subject to change.
    - Names in italics are speculation
    - Words in brackets [] are placeholders for cards we know a lot about, except the name, or only a partial name.
    Please note that the grouping of colors and types is only an estimate and may be subject to change.


    white mana White white mana
    1 white mana Aerial Maneuver (Instant) 1W, Flying, first strike, Common
    2 white mana Angelic Edict (Socery) 4W Enchantment, Creature, Common
    3 white mana Angelic Skirmisher (Creature - Angel) 4WW Flying, First strike, vigilance, lifelink, 4/4, Rare
    4 white mana Assault Griffin (Creature - Griffin) 3W, Flying, 3/2, Common
    5 white mana Basilica Guards (Creature - Human Soldier) Orzhov, 2W, Defender, Extort, 1/4, Common
    6 white mana Blind Obedience (Enchantment) Orzhov 1W Extort, Rare
    7 white mana Boros Elite (Creature - Human Soldier) Boros, :symw:, Battalion, 2, +2/+2, 1/1, Uncommon
    8 white mana Court Street Denize (Creature - Human Soldier) 2W, 2/2, Common
    9 white mana Daring Skyjek (Creature - Human Soldier) Boros 1W Battalion, flying, 3/1, Common
    10 white mana Debtor's Pulpit (Enchantment - Aura) 4W Enchant land, :symtap:, Uncommon
    11 white mana Dutiful Thrull (Creature - Thrull) Orzhov :symw:, :symb:, regenerate, 1/1, Common
    12 white mana Frontline Medic (Creature - Human Cleric) Boros 2W Battalion, indestructible, :xmana:, :3mana:, 3/3, Rare
    13 white mana Gideon, Champion of Justice (Planeswalker - Gideon) 2WW, +1, 0, -15, 4, Mythic
    14 white mana Guardian of the Gateless (Creature - Angel) 4W Flying, +1/+1, 3/3, Uncommon
    15 white mana Guildscorn Ward (Enchantment - Aura) white mana Enchant creature, protection from multicolor, Common
    16 white mana Hold the Gates (Enchantment) 2W, +0/+1, vigilance, Uncommon
    17 white mana Holy Mantle (Enchantment - Aura) 2WW Enchant creature, +2/+2, Protection from creatures, Uncommon
    18 white mana Knight of Obligation (Creature - Human Knight) Orhov 3W Vigilance, Extort, 2/4, Uncommon
    19 white mana Knight Watch (Sorcery) 4W two 2/2 white Knight, vigilance, Uncommon
    20 white mana Luminate Primordial (Creature - Avatar) 5WW 4/7, Rare
    21 white mana Murder Investigation (Enchantment - Aura) 1W, Enchant Creature you control, X 1/1 white Soldier, X, Uncommon
    22 white mana Nav Squad Commandos (Creature - Human Soldier) Boros 4W Battalion, +1/+1, 3/5, Common
    23 white mana Righteous Charge (Sorcery) 1WW +2/+2, Uncommon
    24 white mana Shielded Passage (Instant) :symw:, Common
    25 white mana Smite (Instant) white mana Common
    26 white mana Syndic of Tithes (Creature - Human Cleric) Orzhov 1W Extort, 2/2, Common
    27 white mana Urbis Protector (Creature - Human Cleric) 4WW 4/4 white Angel, Flying, 1/1, Uncommon
    28 white mana Zarichi (Creature - Cat) 3W, 1W, :symtap:, 2, 2/3, Common

    blue mana Blue blue mana
    29 blue mana AEtherize (Instant) 3U Uncommon
    30 blue mana
    31 blue mana
    32 blue mana Cloudfin Raptor (Creature - Bird Mutant) Simic, :symu:, Flying, Evolve, 0/1, Common
    33 blue mana Diluvian Primordial (Creature - Avatar) 5UU Flying, 5/5, Rare
    34 blue mana Enter the Infinite (Sorcery) 8UUUU Mythic
    35 blue mana
    36 blue mana Gridlock (Instant) XU, X, Uncommon
    37 blue mana Hands of Binding (Sorcery) Dimir, 1U, Cipher, Common
    38 blue mana
    39 blue mana
    40 blue mana
    41 blue mana Leyline Phantom (Creature - Illusion) 4U 5/5, Common
    42 blue mana
    43 blue mana
    44 blue mana Rapid Hybridization (Instant) blue mana 3/3 green Frog Lizard, Uncommon
    45 blue mana Realmwright (Creature - Vedalken Wizard) blue mana 1/1, Rare
    46 blue mana
    47 blue mana
    48 blue mana
    49 blue mana Simic Fluxmage (Creature - Merfolk Wizard) Simic 2U Evolve, 1U, :symtap:, +1/+1, 1/2, Uncommon
    50 blue mana Simic Manipulator (Creature - Mutant Wizard) Simic 1UU Evolve tap symbol +1/+1, +1/+1, 0/1, Rare
    51 blue mana
    52 blue mana
    53 blue mana Stolen Identity (Sorcery) 4UU Cipher, Rare
    54 blue mana
    55 blue mana
    56 blue mana

    black mana Black black mana
    57 black mana
    58 black mana
    59 black mana
    60 black mana
    61 black mana Crypt Ghast (Creature - Spirit) Orzhov 3B Extort, black mana 2/2, Rare
    62 black mana
    63 black mana
    64 black mana
    65 black mana Gateway Shade (Creature - Shade) 2B, black mana +1/+1, Gate, +2/+2, 1/1, Uncommon
    66 black mana
    67 black mana
    68 black mana
    69 black mana
    70 black mana
    71 black mana Lord of the Void (Creature - Demon) 4BBB Flying, seven, Mythic
    72 black mana
    73 black mana
    74 black mana Ogre Slumlord (Creature - Ogre) 3BB 1/1 black Rat, deathtouch, 3/3, Rare
    75 black mana Sepulchral Primordial (Creature - Avatar) 5BB Intimidate, 5/4, Rare
    76 black mana
    77 black mana
    78 black mana
    79 black mana
    80 black mana
    81 black mana Thrull Parasite (Creature - Thrull) Orzhov black mana Extort, 2, :symtap:, 1/1, Uncommon
    82 black mana Undercity Informer (Creature - Human Rogue) 2B 1 mana 2/3, Uncommon
    83 black mana Undercity Plague (Sorcery) Dimir 4BB 1, Cipher, Rare
    84 black mana

    red mana Red red mana
    85 red mana
    86 red mana
    87 red mana
    88 red mana
    89 red mana
    90 red mana Firefist Striker (Creature - Human Soldier) 1R Battalion, 2/1, Uncommon
    91 red mana Five-Alarm Fire (Enchantment) 1RR five, 5, Rare
    92 red mana
    93 red mana
    94 red mana Hellkite Tyrant (Creature - Dragon) 3RRR Flying, Trample, twenty, 6/5, Mythic
    95 red mana Hellraiser Goblin (Creature - Goblin Berserker) 2R Uncommon
    96 red mana
    97 red mana Legion Loyalist (Creature - Goblin Soldier) Boros red mana Haste, Battallion, first strike, trample, 1/1, Rare
    98 red mana
    99 red mana
    100 red mana
    101 red mana Molten Primordial (Creature - Avatar) 5RR Haste, haste, 6/4, Rare
    102 red mana
    103 red mana
    104 red mana
    105 red mana
    106 red mana Skullcrack (Instant) 1R 3, Uncommon
    107 red mana
    108 red mana Tin Street Market (Enchantment - Aura) 4R, Enchant land, :symtap:, Common
    109 red mana
    110 red mana Viashino Shanktail (Creature - Viashino Warrior) Gruul, 3R, First strike, Bloodrush, 2R, +3/+1, 3/1, Uncommon
    111 red mana
    112 red mana

    green mana Green green mana
    113 green mana
    114 green mana
    115 green mana
    116 green mana Crocanura (Creature - Crocodile Frog) Simic 2G Reach, Evolve, 1/3, Common
    117 green mana
    118 green mana
    119 green mana Experiment One (Creature - Human Ooze) Simic, :symg:, Evolve, two +1/+1, Regenerate, Uncommon
    120 green mana
    121 green mana Giant Adephage (Creature - Insect) 5GG Trample, 7/7, Mythic
    122 green mana
    123 green mana Gyre Sage (Creature - Elf Druid) Simic 1G Evolve, tap symbol green mana +1/+1, 1/2, Rare
    124 green mana
    125 green mana
    126 green mana Miming Slime (Sorcery) 2G X/X green Ooze, Uncommon
    127 green mana
    128 green mana Ooze Flux (Enchantment) 3G 1G, one, +1/+1, X/X green Ooze, +1/+1, Rare
    129 green mana
    130 green mana
    131 green mana
    132 green mana Serene Remembrance (Sorcery) green mana three, Uncommon
    133 green mana Skarrg Goliath (Creature - Beast) Gruul 6GG, Trample, Bloodrush, +9/+9, Trample, 9/9, Rare
    134 green mana Slaughterhorn (Creature - Beast) Gruul 2G Bloodrush green mana +3/+2, 3/2, Common
    135 green mana
    136 green mana Sylvan Primordial (Creature - Avatar) 5GG Reach, forest, 6/8, Rare
    137 green mana
    138 green mana
    139 green mana
    140 green mana

    Multicolor
    141 W/B mana Alms Beast (Creature - Beast) Orzhov 2WB Lifelink, 6/6, Rare
    142 R/W mana Assemble the Legion (Enchantment) Boros 3RW 1/1 red white Soldier, haste, Rare
    143 R/W mana Aurelia, the Warleader (Legendary Creature - Angel) Boros 2RRWW Flying, haste, vigilance, 3/4, Mythic
    144 R/W mana Aurelia's Fury (Instant) Boros XRW X, Mythic
    145 U/B mana Bane Alley Broker (Creature - Human Rogue) Dimir 1UB :symtap:, UB, tap symbol 0/3
    146 G/U mana Biovisionary (Creature - Human Wizard) 1GU, four, win, 2/3, Rare
    147 R/G mana Borborygmos Enraged (Legendary Creature - Cyclops) Gruul 4RRGG Trample, three, 3, 7/6, Mythic
    148 R/W mana Boros Charm (Instant) Boros RW 4, indestructible, double strike, Uncommon
    149 U/B mana Call of the Nightwing (Sorcery) Dimir 2UB, 1/1 blue and black Horror, flying, Cipher, Uncommon
    150 W/B mana Cartel Aristocrat (Creature - Human Advisor) Orzhov WB protection from color of choice, 2/2, Uncommon
    151 R/G mana Clan Defiance (Sorcery) Gruul XRG, X, X, X, Rare
    152 U/B mana Consuming Abberation (Creature - Horror) Dimir, 3UB, */*, Rare
    153 W/B mana Deathpact Angel (Creature - Angel) Orzhov 3WBB, Flying, 1/1 white and black Cleric, :symtap:, 3WBB, 5/5, Mythic
    154 U/B mana Dimir Charm (Instant) Dimir UB, 2, three, Uncommon
    155 U/B mana Dinrova Horror (Creature - Horror) Dimir 4UB 4/4, Uncommon
    156 R/G mana Domri Rade (Planeswalker - Domri) 1RG +1, -2, -7, trample, haste, hexproof, double strike, Mythic
    157 G/U mana Drakewing Krasis (Creature - Drake) Simic 1GU, Flying, 3/1, Common
    158 U/B mana Duskmantle Guildmage (Creature - Human Wizard) Dimir UB 1UB, 1, 2UB, two, 2/2, Uncommon
    159 U/B mana Duskmantle Seer (Creature - Vampire Wizard) Dimir 2UB Flying, 4/4, Mythic
    160 G/U mana Elusive Krasis (Creature - Fish Mutant) Simic 1GU unblockable, evolve, 0/4, Uncommon
    161 W/B mana Executioner's Swing (Instant) Orzhov WB -5/-5, Common
    162 G/U mana Fathom Mage (Creature - Human Wizard) Simic 2GU Evolve, +1/+1, 1/1, Rare
    163 R/W mana Firemane Avenger (Creature - Angel) Boros 2RW, flying, Battalion, two, 3, 3, 3/3, Rare
    164 R/W mana Fortress Cyclops (Creature - Cyclops Soldier) Boros 3RW +3/+0, +0/+3, Uncommon
    165 R/W mana Foundry Champion (Creature - Elemental Soldier) Boros 4RW red mana +1/+0, white mana +0/+1, 4/4, Rare
    166 R/G mana Frenzied Tilling (Sorcery) 3RG Uncommon
    167 R/G mana Ghor-Clan Rampager (Creature - Beast) Gruul 2RG Trample, Bloodrush RG +4/+4, trample, 4/4, Uncommon
    168 R/G mana Ground Assault (Sorcery) Gruul RG Uncommon
    169 R/G mana Gruul Charm (Instant) Gruul RG flying, 3, flying Uncommon
    170 R/G mana Gruul Ragebeast (Creature - Beast) Gruul 5RG fight 6/6, Rare
    171 W/B mana High Priest of Penance (Creature - Human Cleric) Orzhov WB 1/1 Rare
    172 G/U mana Hydroform (Instant) Simic GU 3/3 Elemental, flying, Common
    173 W/B mana Kingpin's Pet (Creature - Thrull) Orzhov 1WB Flying, Extort, 2/2, Common
    174 U/B mana Lazav, Dimir Mastermind (Legendary Creature - Shapeshifter) Dimir UUBB, Hexproof, 3/3 Mythic
    175 R/W mana Martial Glory (Instant) Boros RW +3/+0, +0/+3, Common
    176 G/U mana Master Biomancer (Creature - Elf Wizard) Simic 2GU +1/+1, mutant, 2/4, Mythic
    177 W/B mana Merciless Eviction (Sorcery) Orzhov 4WB Rare
    178 U/B mana Mind Grind (Sorcery) Dimir, XUB X, X, 0, Rare
    179 U/B mana Mortus Strider (Creature - Skeleton) 1UB, 1/1, Common
    180 G/U mana Mystic Genesis (Instant) Simic 2GUU X/X green Ooze, X, Rare
    181 G/U mana Nimbus Swimmer (Creature - Leviathan) Simic XGU Flying, X +1/+1, 0/0, Uncommon
    182 W/B mana Obzedat, Ghost Council (Legendary Creature - Spirit Advisor) Orzhov 1WWBB, 2, 2, 5/5, Mythic
    183 W/B mana One Thousand Lashes (Enchantment - Aura) Orzhov 2WB Enchant creature, Extort, Uncommon
    184 R/W mana Ordruun Veteran (Creature - Minotaur Soldier) Boros 2RW Battalion, double strike, 3/1, Uncommon
    185 W/B mana Orzhov Charm (Instant) Orzhov WB 1, Uncommon
    186 U/B mana Paranoid Delusion (Paranoid Delusion) Dimir UB three, Cipher, Common
    187 R/G mana Primal Visitation (Enchantment - Aura) Gruul 3RG Enchant creature, +3/+3, haste, Common
    188 G/U mana Prime Speaker Zegana (Legendary Creature - Merfolk Wizard) Simic 2GGUU, x +1/+1, X, Mythic
    189 U/B mana Psychic Spire (Instant) Dimir 1UB two, Common
    190 W/B mana Purge the Profane (Sorcery) Orzhov 2WB two, 2, Common
    191 R/G mana Rubblehulk (Creature - Elemental) Gruul 4RG Bloodrush, 1RG, +X/+X, X, */*, Rare
    192 R/G mana Ruination Wurm (Creature - Wurm) Gruul 4RG, 7/6, Common
    193 G/U mana Shambleshark (Creature - Fish Crab) Simic GU Flash, Evolve, 2/1, Common
    194 R/G mana Signal the Clans (Sorcery) Gruul RG three, Rare
    195 G/U mana Simic Charm (Instant) Simic GU +3/+3, hexproof, Uncommon
    196 R/G mana Skarrg Guildmage (Creature - Human Shaman) Gruul RG, RG trample, 1RG 4/4 Elemental, 2/2, Uncommon
    197 R/W mana Skyknight Legionnaire (Creature - Human Soldier) Boros 1RW Flying, haste, 2/2, Common
    198 U/B mana Soul Ransom (Enchantment - Aura) Dimir 2UB Enchant creature, two, two, Rare
    199 R/W mana Spark Trooper (Creature - Elemental Soldier) Boros 1RRW Trample, lifelink, haste, 6/1, rare
    200 R/W mana Sunhome Guildmage (Creature - Human Wizard) Boros RW, 1RW, +1/+0, 2RW, 1/1 red white Soldier, haste 2/2, Uncommon
    201 W/B mana Treasury Thrull (Creature - Thrull) Orzhov 4WB Extort, 4/4 Rare
    202 R/W mana Truefire Paladin (Creature - Human Knight) Boros RW Vigilance, RW +2/+0, RW first strike, 2/2, Uncommon
    203 G/U mana Unexpected Results (Sorcery) Simic 2GU Rare
    204 G/U mana Urban Evolution (Sorcery) Simic 3GU three, Uncommon
    205 W/B mana Vizkopa Confessor (Creature - Human Cleric) Orzhov 3WB Extort, one, 1/3, Uncommon
    206 W/B mana Vizkopa Guildmage (Creature - Human Wizard) Orzhov WB 1WB lifelink, 1WB 2/2, Uncommon
    207 U/B mana Whispering Madness (Sorcery) Dimir 2UB Cipher, Rare
    208 R/W mana Wojek Halberdiers (Creature - Human Soldier) Boros RW Battalion, first strike, 3/2, COmmon
    209 G/U mana Zameck Guildmage (Creature - Elf Wizard) Simic GU, GU, +1/+1, GU, +1/+1 2/2, Uncommon
    210 R/G mana Zhur-Taa Swine (Creature - Boar) Gruul, 3RG, Bloodrush, 1RG +5/+4, 5/4, Common

    Hybrids
    211 R/W mana Arrows of Justice (Instant) Boros :2mana::symrw: 4, Uncommon
    212 W/B mana Beckon Apparition (Instant) Orzhov W/B mana 1/1 white black Spirit, flying, Common
    213 G/U mana Biomass Mutation (Instant) Simic :xmana::symgu::symgu: X/X, Rare
    214 G/U mana Bioshift (Instant) Simic G/U mana +1/+1, Common
    215 R/W mana Boros Reckoner (Creature - Minotaur Wizard) Boros :symrw::symrw::symrw: :symrw:, first strike, 3/3, Rare
    216 R/G mana Burning-Tree Emissary (Creature - Human Shaman) Gruul, :symrg::symrg:, :symr::symg: 2/2, Uncommon
    217 U/B mana Coerced Confession (Sorcery) Dimir :4mana::symub: four, Uncommon
    218 U/B mana Deathcult Rogue (Creature - Human Rogue) Dimir :1mana::symub::symub: 2/2, Common
    219 W/B mana Gift of Orzhova (Enchantment - Aura) Orhov :1mana::symwb::symwb: Enchant creature, +1/+1, flying, lifelink, Uncommon
    220 W/B mana Immortal Servitude (Sorcery) Orzhov :xmana::symwb::symwb:, X, Rare
    221 G/U mana Merfolk of the Depths (Creature - Merfolk Soldier) Simic :4mana::symgu::symgu: Flash, 4/2, Uncommon
    222 U/B mana Nightveil Specter (Creature - Specter) Dimir :symub::symub::symub:, Flying, 2/3, Rare
    223 R/G mana Pit Fight (Instant) Gruul :1mana::symrg: Common
    224 R/G mana Rubblebelt Raiders (Creature - Human Warrior) Gruul :1mana::symrg::symrg::symrg: +1/+1, 3/3, Rare
    225 R/W mana Shattering Blow (Instant) Boros :1mana::symrw: exile artifact, Common

    Artifacts
    226 A Armored Transport (Artifact Creature - Construct) 3 mana 2/1, Common
    227 A Boros Keyrune (Artifact) Boros :3mana:, :symtap:, :symr:, :symw:, WR, 1/1 red white Soldier, double strike, Uncommon
    228 A Dimir Keyrune (Artifact) Dimir :3mana:, :symtap:, :symu:, :symb:, UB 2/2 blue black Horror, unblockable, Uncommon
    229 A Glaring Spotlight (Artifact) 1 mana hexproof, hexproof, 3 mana hexproof, unblockable, Rare
    230 A Gruul Keyrune (Artifact) Gruul :3mana:, :symtap:, :symr:, :symg:, RG, 3/2, red green Beast, trample Uncommon
    231 A Illusionist's Bracers (Artifact - Equipment) 2 mana Equip :3mana:, Rare
    232 A Millenial Gargoyle (Artifact Creature - Gargoyle) 4 mana Flying, 2/2, Common
    233 A Orzhov Keyrune (Artifact) Orzhov :3mana:, :symtap:, :symw:, :symb:, WB 1/4 black white Thrull, lifelink, Uncommon
    234 A Prophetic Prism (Artifact) :1mana:, :symtap:, one, Common
    235 A Razortip Whip (Artifact) :2mana:, :1mana:, :symtap: 1, Common
    236 A Riot Gear (Artifact - Equipment) 2 mana +1/+2, Equip 2 mana Common
    237 A Simic Keyrune (Artifact) Simic :3mana:, :symtap:, :symg:, :symu:, GU 2/3 blue green Crab, hexproof Uncommon
    238 A Skyblinder Staff (Artifact - Equipment) 1 mana +1/+0, flying, Equip 3 mana Common

    Lands
    239 L Boros Guildgate (Land - Gate) Boros :symtap:, :symr:, :symw:, Common
    240 L Breeding Pool (Land - Forest Island) Simic, 2, Rare
    241 L Dimir Guildgate (Land - Gate) Dimir :symtap:, :symu:, :symb:, Common
    242 L Godless Shrine (Land - Plains Swamp) Orzhov, 2, Rare
    243 L Gruul Guildgate (Land - Gate) Gruul :symtap:, :symr:, :symg:, Common
    244 L Orzhov Guildgate (Land - Gate) Orzhov :symtap:, :symw:, :symb:, Common
    245 L Sacred Foundry (Land - Mountain Plains) Boros, 2, Rare
    246 L Simic Guildgate (Land - Gate) Simic :symtap:, :symg:, :symu:, Common
    247 L Stomping Ground (Land - Mountain Forest) Gruul, 2, Rare
    248 L Thespian's Stage (Land) :symtap:, :1mana:, :2mana:, :symtap:
    249 L Watery Grave (Land - Island Swamp) Dimir, 2, Rare
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  • #2
    Thanks for getting this started! It's exciting to see movement towards Gatecrash happening already.
  • #3
    Orzhova Guildmage is actually Vizkopa Guildmage (naturally begging the question of "Vizkopa wat???"). They showed that at the PAX party.
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  • #4
    That's why I don't like cycles. We know the effect of fifteen cards and the name and what to expect of other fifteen...
  • #5
    That is just a minor gripe I think. After the set is released who doesn't really like cycles?
  • #6
    Quote from Solmancer
    Orzhova Guildmage is actually Vizkopa Guildmage (naturally begging the question of "Vizkopa wat???"). They showed that at the PAX party.


    I have found the picture
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  • #7
    can someone explain to me how we know some of these cards already? i dont understand how the crunch is deduced
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  • #8
    So are we figuring on five monocolor myffics and two per guild?
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  • #9
    Godless Shrine - 242
    Source: Pic I took at PAX.
    I knew I would kick myself for not taking photos of the Gatecrash stuff for N/N crunch. Sunhome Guildmage is correct in N/N from the photo that I have.

    EDIT - Attached Sunhome Guildmage pic for confirmation.
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  • #10
    I feel very strongly that they should have gone with "Swamp Plains".
  • #11
    Quote from naturax
    I feel very strongly that they should have gone with "Swamp Plains".

    Plains Swamp follows typical WUBRG order. All WB cards go in the same order. To change that to Swamp Plains goes against structure and a lot of precedence.
  • #12
    I have a feeling card #248 land between Stomping Ground and Watery Grave will be Transguild Promenade.

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  • #13
    Quote from MtGColorPie
    Godless Shrine - 242
    Source: Pic I took at PAX.
    I knew I would kick myself for not taking photos of the Gatecrash stuff for N/N crunch. Sunhome Guildmage is correct in N/N from the photo that I have.

    EDIT - Attached Sunhome Guildmage pic for confirmation.


    Based on the image, Godless Shrine should be #242 not #241.
  • #14
    Quote from Schondetta
    can someone explain to me how we know some of these cards already? i dont understand how the crunch is deduced


    PAX had a lot of pictures, plus the 5 foils we have info about, plus all of the cards we can deduce from RTR like charms, keyrunes, guildgates, guild leaders, and guild mages.
  • #15
    Quote from Zapgaze
    I have a feeling card #248 land between Stomping Ground and Watery Grave will be Transguild Promenade.

    That appears to make very little sense. If anything it'll be a new five-color-fixing land or simply a random one-off like Rogue's Passage.
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  • #16
    Quote from Schondetta
    can someone explain to me how we know some of these cards already? i dont understand how the crunch is deduced


    Usually to start the crunch we need a couple of outlier cards, e.g. one or two cards with a very early alphabetical name. A blue card with AEther in its name would probably the first or second blue card in a set. If we also have its card number we can usually deduce how many cards per color there in the set. Plug in an approximate number of multicolored, artifact and land cards appropriate for the set of its size (the size is always one of the first things WOTC announces), plus basic lands if they are in the set, and you got a good approximation which can be refined as card numbers are known.

    Gatecrash is a special case though. Gatecrash appears to be a twin set to Return to Ravnica, since they have a similar theme and the same size (not counting basic lands in RTR). It also stands to reason that they should be the same, as WOTC usually wants to give factions the same amount of cards in a block. As we do not have to expect Dragon's Maze to accomplish this equilibrium, since it contains all 10 guilds.

    Cards which name and number is known are bold. Cards whose name are known, but the number is not are left in regular font. Speculated names are in italics, and partial names are completed with text in brackets. If only known names are wedged between cards whose numbers are also known, you can also bold those known cards which number you don't yet know, because they can't go anywhere else.

    Most of the card names entered so far are simply conclusions of cycles which started in RTR. Guildmages, Gates, Charms, and Keyrunes all have a very similar name structure, which can easily be deduced (though there can be hickups, such as with the Orzhova Guildmage actually being called Vizkopa Guildmage). The guildmasters can also be deduced from known information about the flavor of the setting. For some of these we also already have art which is similar in style to the art used for the cards in the cycle that appeared in RTR. Another cycle already entered is the Shockland cycle, as we know their names because all of them are reprinted cards. The rest of the card names are from the spoilers we have, plus the Buy-a-box promo of which we only know the name. I entered that one into multicolor, since it makes most sense to use a multicolor card as a promo for a multicolor set.


    Quote from Zapgaze
    I have a feeling card #248 land between Stomping Ground and Watery Grave will be Transguild Promenade.


    These spots are not fixed. They are subject to change unless the card and number is bold. However, I am very, very sure that WOTC is not going to print the same card in two sets of the same block.
    Last edited by chaosof99: 11/23/2012 1:31:36 AM
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  • #17
    Stomping Ground is pretty much 100% #247 according to the PAX images.



    Unfortunately, every single image I can find of Breeding Pool from PAX has the collector's number obscured by the flash... Mad
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  • #18
    Quote from CadaverousBl00m

    Unfortunately, every single image I can find of Breeding Pool from PAX has the collector's number obscured by the flash... Mad


    The lights the have there are fantastic to display the cards in person. It's horrendous for taking photos. Even the process I go through to get better images to show up aren't full proof. None of my Breeding Pool pics came up well either. Sorry.




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  • #19
    Quote from CadaverousBl00m
    Stomping Ground is pretty much 100% #247 according to the PAX images.



    Unfortunately, every single image I can find of Breeding Pool from PAX has the collector's number obscured by the flash... Mad


    The Domri Rade quote here is further proof against any remaining skeptics on the spoiled foils.

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  • #20
    Come now, empathogen. Surely you realize if there are skeptics at this point, then they believe having prior information that reveals the name of Domri Rade is even more reason to suspect that somebody faked this card using said prior information xD.
  • #21
    Quote from empathogen
    The Domri Rade quote here is further proof against any remaining skeptics on the spoiled foils.


    I mean, this picture was around before the 5 mythics were 'spoiled', there's no reason they couldn't have found this picture and made a card around the flavor text.

    Not that I believe that's what happened; I believe the cards are real. It's just another level of thought the counterfeiter would have had to go through, as if he hadn't gone through enough already.
  • #22
    I hope you don't mind if I engage in a bit of speculation about the names of the remaining guildleaders.

    Zegana's title is "Prime Speaker", so her name is probably either "Zegana, Prime Speaker" or else "Prime Speaker Zegana". It might also just be "Speaker Zegana", as she's been referred to that way a few times. I think "Zegana, Prime Speaker" is pretty likely, as this really just is her title, and I think they would prefer to lead with the name rather than the title (though I suppose Grand Arbiter Augustin IV is a Ravnican counterexample, though I'm not sure how much of a relevant one).

    Lazav has been referred to as "Lazav, the Dimir Mastermind", so that's a potential name (or just "Lazav, Dimir Mastermind"). I'm not sure that's actually likely, though.

    Similarly, Obzedat has been referred to as "Obzedat, the Ghost Council", so that's a potential name. This one seems kind of unlikely to me, as I suspect they might want a name that suggests more of a change in state from the originial Ghost Council of Orzhova.

    Note that these names/titles are being take from these pages. Going just by RTR, most of these do not match up with the actual card names -- only Trostani does, though Niv-Mizzet and Rakdos match up with the old card name. (Isperia matches neither, and Jarad's section doesn't really give a plausible possibility for Jarad.)

    Meanwhile for GTC we already know Aurelia, the Warleader (another case like Jarad where the section doesn't really give a plausible possibility) and Borborygmos Enraged (a case where it just doesn't match). So, who knows. There's a reason I didn't say "Oh hey these are probably the names". But "Zegana, Prime Speaker" (or the reverse) seems pretty likely.

    Edit: Also, going by the Simic page, "Zamec Guildmage" should probably be "Zameck Guildmage", FWIW.
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  • #23
    Based on the name of the Orzhov goldmage, their guildleader might well be called "Obzedat of Vizkopa".
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  • #25
    I think the Zameck Guildmage will be an Elf, not a Merfolk. Fwiw. Mainly because of the attached pictures being in the Simic fan kit. I know that's an unimportant detail, but meh, I want to contribute whatever I can.
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  • #26
    Quote from bubonic plague
    I think the Zameck Guildmage will be an Elf, not a Merfolk. Fwiw. Mainly because of the attached pictures being in the Simic fan kit. I know that's an unimportant detail, but meh, I want to contribute whatever I can.


    What if he is the next step in evolution? An elf and a merfolk, just like [CARD]Gaea's Skyfolk
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