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  • #39
    So Lazav is an evil shapeshifter. I wonder if he's going to stir up trouble by using his abilities to pose as the other guild leaders. Grin


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  • #40
    liking Ghost Counsel 2.0. I kind of want to update a ghost dad deck for modern now
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  • #41
    Ridiculous. They give B/W this hard of a push with Obzedat, after they gave U/W the middle finger with Isperia, Supreme Jank.

    What's next? Reprint unmake so they get instant speed unconditional removal too?

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  • #42
    Wow, Ghost Council is insane. There's very little instant speed removal that can touch him, and he's beefy enough to get through most creatures. Almost makes me want to go Esper over Grixis...almost.
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  • #43
    Quote from Spicay
    I'm more excited about the fact that in the Obzedat spoiler article..Gavin makes a sample Esper control deck with 4 Dimir Charm and he says it's insane in that kind of deck.

    I'm wet at the thought of the U/B charm being good.


    Hmmm Dimir Charm....Possible opponent reveals their hand and you choose a creature card for them to discard? Possible target player puts the top 3 cards of his or her library into their graveyard?
  • #44
    Quote from Schondetta
    both amazing cards. hoping for an updated Teysa too for edh. the council seems pretty strong in standard i wouldnt doubt if it saw play. the clone guy is awesome too. nothing really new we have seen the art is awesome and looks delicious to build around

    wait edit that, the clone guy becomes a copy when the creature goes into the grave from anywhere
    so this means

    play this guy
    do some mulching
    oh did i just mulch in a worldspine wurm?
    profit

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  • #45
    Quote from Schondetta
    wait edit that, the clone guy becomes a copy when the creature goes into the grave from anywhere
    so this means

    play this guy
    do some mulching
    oh did i just mulch in a worldspine wurm?
    profit

    opponent's graveyard, unfortunately.
  • #47
    Obzedat... You know, when the person who writes the article explicitly says its awfully powerful... I think he MIGHT be right. Comparing these to Borbogorymos and Aurelia and i think Boros is going to plain suck this time...
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  • #49
    Quote from ddarooman
    Just curious. How did you find the picture for Lazav with the full text. Everything below hexproof is blurred for me.


    You had to read the article and once you got all the way through it sent you back to a different part you had to click to reveal.
  • #50
    Quote from LittleLizard
    Obzedat... You know, when the person who writes the article explicitly says its awfully powerful... I think he MIGHT be right. Comparing these to Borbogorymos and Aurelia and i think Boros is going to plain suck this time...


    "Fun fact about Obzedat: I designed him—but I almost didn't bother suggesting him. In the hole-filling exercise where we submitted ideas for what the new Ghost Council could do, I very nearly deleted this design from my email because I thought it looked so absurdly powerful that it would seem like I had no idea how to balance cards."

    His gut feeling was correct. At least..at least it can be chumped?
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  • #51
    Damn, I love all three of these cards. Obzedat and Lazav both look solid, but Obzedat looks like a foundation card for a deck. Four point life swing each turn? Sign me up!

    Lazav sounds fun if you mill your opponent Smile
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  • #52
    Note that you can "copy" key Legendary creatures with Lazav without Legend Rule risk. Pretty neat.
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  • #53
    You can't even legend rule Ghost Dad to death. Not easily.

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  • #54
    Also, it's a shame there aren't any pandemonium effects in standard currently. I would be riding w/b/r control all the way then.
  • #55
    It kind of overshadows the Extort mechanic a bit, the fact you can get just get 4 freaking instances by your next turn without even playing any additional spells.
  • #57
    Quote from ManyCookies
    Note that you can "copy" Legendary creatures with Lazav, as his name doesn't change for the Legendary rule. Pretty neat.


    So we can have say 2 trostanis out on the field then? is that how it works? Thats pretty awesome. This guy truly is nuts
  • #58
    Obzedat Should have had Flying to make it even better. A Spirit that doesn't fly? Even Though I am now Working on my Esper control deck with him in it. Maybe an EDH deck also.
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  • #59
    Quote from Geaux
    Also, it's a shame there aren't any pandemonium effects in standard currently. I would be riding w/b/r control all the way then.


    I also which garruks packleader wasn't fighting for the same CMC spot because that would turn our ghost council hear into a nice card engine
  • #60
    Quote from Pharmalade
    You can't even legend rule Ghost Dad to death. Not easily.


    K, I'm clearly missing something. How can you not? Clone and Evil Twin would both kill him; he retains his name when he copies.
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  • #61
    Quote from Dreamstealer
    So we can have say 2 trostanis out on the field then? is that how it works? Thats pretty awesome. This guy truly is nuts


    If you have GGWWUUBB lying around and the time to play 2 4 drops that don't do anything right away, yes.
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  • #63
    K, I'm clearly missing something. How can you not? Clone and Evil Twin would both kill him; he retains his name when he copies.


    You'd need an instant-speed clone to be able to copy him, though.
  • #64
    Quote from Dreamstealer
    So we can have say 2 trostanis out on the field then? is that how it works? Thats pretty awesome. This guy truly is nuts


    If thats the case he just become a nightmare in Limited.
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  • #65
    K, I'm clearly missing something. How can you not? Clone and Evil Twin would both kill him; he retains his name when he copies.


    Ghost Dad is the Ghost Council, not random Dimir dude.
  • #66
    Your opponent would have to mill the Trostani/Legendary first, but yes, it'd be possible to have two copies of a Legendary.
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  • #68
    K, I'm clearly missing something. How can you not? Clone and Evil Twin would both kill him; he retains his name when he copies.


    He won't be on the field. You'd need an instant speed clone, a Cackling Counterpart that could target your opponents creatures.

    The difference between this and the original Ghost Dad however, is that you must wait until your end step to exile it, and cannot do it at will (by sacrificing a creature and paying 1) to evade destruction. At least, that's a plus..I guess?
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