Simic Fluxmage

  • #28
    Quote from koloblicin
    Anyone else catch that you could have it in play, then play any 1/1 and in response to the evolve trigger activate the mage to move its +1/+1 counter thus making the other creature larger than it... sounds like sweet synergy.

    (edit) If it already had at least one counter that is.


    Sorry, but that's not how intervening ifs work. The ability wouldn't trigger at all if the creature was smaller than Fluxmage.
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  • #29
    Quote from koloblicin
    Anyone else catch that you could have it in play, then play any 1/1 and in response to the evolve trigger activate the mage to move its +1/+1 counter thus making the other creature larger than it... sounds like sweet synergy.

    (edit) If it already had at least one counter that is.


    No you can't. The ability won't even trigger if the creature enters with equal or less power than is.
  • #30
    I would be very surprised if the U/G one drop hybrid was not a 1/1 or 0/1 with evolve.
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  • #31
    Quote from Lully
    I would be very surprised if the U/G one drop hybrid was not a 1/1 or 0/1 with evolve.

    The uncommon one-drop cycle was a RTR thing. It isn't reappearing in GTC.

    Of course, that doesn't preclude the possibility of a U/G one-drop hybrid. I wouldn't assume it, though.
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  • #32
    I love how it kinda works out with Simic's old keyword, graft. Oh, any creature with a +1/+1 counter can do x? might as well use it on my biggest dude I played on the third turn.
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  • #33
    I like the Evolve keyword. It appears that it works very well with the Graft Keyword. The synergy is there. So, looks it's time to build a Graft/Evolve deck with other fun +1/+1 tricks.

    The two thing I am wondering:

    1) How many way can they [WotC R&D] reinvent the +1/+1 counter?
    2) This is 100% legit, I can tell, BUT this is kind of like how "Populate" keyword was found in a pack, and they [WotC] just ran it off like it was a "mistake"... believed it (mostly). Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice... well, basically I think this was planted. How can there be a sloppy job again, after the last one. Wouldn't they be a bit more careful not to have a "slip" like there was last time. This has to be a publicity stunt to raise the hype.
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  • #34
    oh crap yeah that "if" kinda shoves a boot in that idea. i figured it would enter, trigger then check. oh well.
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  • #35
    Quote from DiesToRemoval
    Unless they did it on purpose. It would seem like a good and creative way to refresh the whole spoilers thingy.


    That's what I'm starting to think this is now, unless they're starting to drop the ball on their quality control. I wouldn't mind this being on purpose, though. It is a pretty creative way to release unofficial spoilers.

    On topic: The mechanic is fine, but I still like Graft more. Then again that's how it usually is with original Ravnica vs RTR mechanics.
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  • #36
    Quote from Axelle Blitzer
    The uncommon one-drop cycle was an RTR thing. It isn't reappearing in GTC.

    Of course, that doesn't preclude the possibility of a U/G one-drop hybrid. I wouldn't assume it, though.


    I thought that was just the rare "can't be countered" cycle. Shame. I like cycles.
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  • #37
    Of course the card from Gatecrash is an uncommon with a new mechanic. Seems very legit...for WOTC's marketing.
  • #38
    Honestly, my gut tells me this is legit. It seems like a satisfying, powerful, mechanic. It's definitely more green than blue though.

    I also have a sinking sensation that this card will be a solid card in limited. It can be so scary, yet it isn't much of a threat by itself.

    Hmmm... it cold be too powerful depending on what they print. Hopefully they kept a close eye on it in development.
  • #39
    1.) Evolve was Ethan Fleischer's mechanic for the Great Designer Search 2.
    2.) Ethan Fleischer is on the design team for Gatecrash.
    3.) Evolve is perfect for the Simic.
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  • #40
    Quote from jimmyrussles77
    Gonna say legit.

    The odds of this happening twice are pretty crazy though.

    Not if it's intentional.
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  • #41
    Quote from Axelle Blitzer
    The uncommon one-drop cycle was a RTR thing. It isn't reappearing in GTC.

    Of course, that doesn't preclude the possibility of a U/G one-drop hybrid. I wouldn't assume it, though.


    You know the whole set is called Return to Ravnica,right?

    That stupidity being said, I'd wager each enemy pair guild will get a rare one drop hybrid. The first two in RTR did after all.

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  • #42
    So a common in M13, foreshadowing RTR.
    Now an uncommon in RTR, foreshadowing GTC.
    Maybe we'll see a DGM rare in GTC?
  • #44
    Does anyone else think the font of the reminder text looks a little weird or is it just me?
  • #45
    A brand new card with that much damage on the side? Call me skeptical.
  • #46
    Quote from WoodWraith
    You know the whole set is called Return to Ravnica,right?

    That stupidity being said, I'd wager each enemy pair guild will get a rare one drop hybrid. The first two in RTR did after all.


    What is this.. I don't even.

    No, in Return to Ravnica there was a full 5 card cycle of uncommon 1 drop hybrids, people keep assuming its coming back from Gatecrash. Maro said the cycle was RTR only and not returning for Gatecrash, which means no cycle of hybrid 1 drops for the guilds in Gatecrash.

    I wouldn't however rule out that there will be one drop hybrid cards, just that there won't be a 5 card cycle for all the guilds.
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  • #47
    HELL.YES.

    Momir Vig, Simic Visionary is *most* pleased!!!
    I can't wait to see what other Evolve stuff there is to add to his growing arsenal!

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  • #48
    As someone who is very much a fan of the simic, I'm very satisfied with the the new mechanic. I like how for limited it promotes a little higher mana curve to make sure your later creature drops will proc the evolution

    I like how it screams growth, drop a big critter and all your evolving small critters get bigger, awesome.

    I also LOVE how it interacts with corpsejack menace.

    turn 2: play a 2/2 with evolve. turn 3: play a 3/3 with evolve, attack with your newly evolved 3/3. Turn 4: drop a corpsejack menace, attack with 2 5/5's
  • #49
    The wording of Evolve seems a bit off. There's no need for the intervening-if clause. I would expect it to be more like

    Evolve (Whenever a creature with greater power or toughness enters the battlefield under your control, put a +1/+1 counter on this creature.)

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    Not if it's intentional.


    That would be mean they outright lied to us, so it seems unlikely:

    http://markrosewater.tumblr.com/post/32267231996/was-rootborn-defenses-regarded-as-a-bad-thing-or-is

    It would also be really hard to actually pull off, given that you'd need to get a specific booster pack opened at the right time.

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  • #50
    Myself and Plaxcaster Frogling *really* want this to be true!
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    :boros:Gisela, Blade of Goldnight:boros:
    :golgari:Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord:golgari:
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  • #51
    Quote from fnord
    The wording of Evolve seems a bit off. There's no need for the intervening-if clause. I would expect it to be more like

    Evolve (Whenever a creature with greater power or toughness enters the battlefield under your control, put a +1/+1 counter on this creature.)



    That would be mean they outright lied to us, so it seems unlikely:

    http://markrosewater.tumblr.com/post/32267231996/was-rootborn-defenses-regarded-as-a-bad-thing-or-is

    It would also be really hard to actually pull off, given that you'd need to get a specific booster pack opened at the right time.


    The intervening If just prevents a lot of weird interactions and rulings. Sigil Captain shows why its necessary.
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  • #52
    Dunno, the lights (reflections?) at the right side of picture look surprisingly similar between table and card. That said, the reflections on card look real.

    Can't say that I like this ability much, at least for drafting purposes - I somehow usually don't have many creatures on board. And in situation most benefitting to ability - when the board is filled with guys with Evolve, - this looks like winmore.
  • #53
    this is pretty cool. definitely much more potential than graft if you ask me. thanks for sharing!
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