Simic Fluxmage

  • #1
    Gatecrash card in Ravnica pack at FNM tonight. Simic Fluxmage, uncommon with an ability called "evolve". Whenever a creature enters the battlefield under your controls, if that creature has greater power or toughness than this creature, put a +1/+1 counter on this creature.

    Will post picture soon.

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  • #2
    So, like

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    How much blink is around...

  • #3
    Looks like it could be legit, but it was rare enough that an RTR card got into a pack of M13, that I highly doubt this is true.


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    Had my doubts before you posted the picture. And now wow, that picture looks SERIOUSLY legitimate...
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  • #5
    If it is true, its an interesting mechanic, and can snowball pretty well if done right.

    Also if its not redundant and there are ways to grant it (or if its # based) it could be awesome, and there's design space like Unleash (If X has a +1/+1 counter on it..)
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  • #6
    Evolve is the same mechanic that Ethan Fleischer used in GDS2 I believe? Second time this has happened in three sets if true. I wonder if WotC is doing this on purpose or if there's some kinda problem at the card making factory.
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  • #7
    Quote from Shadowclaimer
    If it is true, its an interesting mechanic, and can snowball pretty well if done right.

    Also if its not redundant and there are ways to grant it (or if its # based) it could be awesome, and there's design space like Unleash (If X has a +1/+1 counter on it..)


    You could use this to make Unleash creatures unable to block...

    I think I like it!

    (Obviously that is not gonna be a situation often until RGD drafts!)
  • #8
    Looks totally legit. Evolve isn't an over-powered mechanic as it only triggers on your own creatures and it's PERFECTLY Simic in flavor.
  • #9
    Considering the picture is known to be for the Simic but has only been posted on a weird angle with some filters over it. I don't think a "clean" version has been posted anywhere, so if it's a fake, I have no idea where they could have got it.
    By the way, I'm talking about this:
    http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=467570

    I'm usually very wary of fakes, but there's nothing that strikes me as odd about this card or the mechanic. (Plus, I wish I can use a monogreen creature with that ability for my Naya Séance deck)
  • #10
    If this is true, its gonna make simic pretty strong in limited. Each evolve creature could become a powerhouse.
  • #11
    It looks legit to me, but could you get a shot from a different angle? It will help to prove it's not a photoshop.


  • #12
    Looks like a real enough mechanic, but I'm curious, does a creature with evolve trigger its ability when it enters the battlefield itself, which then does nothing because its the same P/T? And would that P/T comparison occur both when its triggered and when it resolves? I know other similarly templated abilities used "Whenever another creature or ~ ETB", I never really hear whether it would still trigger for itself without the wonky "another or this" template

    Every time I read a mechanic I'm programmed to automatically try to come up with some fantistically silly way to break it, but this one looks like it crossed its i's and dotted its t's
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  • #13
    It plays really well with the beast that bounces to hand from M13, or with Yeva (flashing in during combat, buff your stuff, block)
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    So many ooze cards in RTR block! Now all we need is an "ooze lord".
    We have Mark Rosewater already.
    Yeah,but his weakness to bus based removal is so crippling. Certainly not a 4 of.
  • #14
    Quote from clan_iraq
    Looks like a real enough mechanic, but I'm curious, does a creature with evolve trigger its ability when it enters the battlefield itself, which then does nothing because its the same P/T? And would that P/T comparison occur both when its triggered and when it resolves? I know other similarly templated abilities used "Whenever another creature or ~ ETB", I never really hear whether it would still trigger for itself without the wonky "another or this" template

    Every time I read a mechanic I'm programmed to automatically try to come up with some fantistically silly way to break it, but this one looks like it crossed its i's and dotted its t's


    I'm not exactly sure what you are asking, but I believe the answer lies in Sigil Captain's rulings.
  • #16
    The Simic watermark from Magic Set Editor is different. It can help to identify if this is fake or not, proving it's not :p
  • #17
    Quote from teddy_bear_x
    The Simic watermark from Magic Set Editor is different. It can help to identify if this is fake or not, proving it's not :p


    Doesn't prove its not, just adds evidence it might not be Wink there's a difference.
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    So many ooze cards in RTR block! Now all we need is an "ooze lord".
    We have Mark Rosewater already.
    Yeah,but his weakness to bus based removal is so crippling. Certainly not a 4 of.
  • #18
    I normally call fake straight away but this looks pretty legit, one thing that stands out to me is the dings on the right hand edge and the bottom left hand corner, this would indicate the card was opened and the player was like OHHMYGAWDZ!!! and handed it to everyone else at the draft table to gawk at and it go roughed up.

    This has to be real, because everyone knows that anyone who can photoshop as well as this should be doing photoshops of celebrities into pornographic pictures and selling them to tabloids and making big money.
  • #19
    It dies to removal. XD

    Seems legit to me. As a Johnny, I approve of this card.
  • #20
    Gonna say legit.

    The odds of this happening twice are pretty crazy though.

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  • #21
    Nice. Cant wait to see more!

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  • #22
    Quote from jimmyrussles77
    Gonna say legit.

    The odds of this happening twice are pretty crazy though.


    Unless they did it on purpose. It would seem like a good and creative way to refresh the whole spoilers thingy.
  • #24
    I'm not sure about the story behind this card, but I really like this card.

    Also, note that the Evolve mechanic is from the Great Designer Search 2.
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  • #25
    Anyone else catch that you could have it in play, then play any 1/1 and in response to the evolve trigger activate the mage to move its +1/+1 counter thus making the other creature larger than it... sounds like sweet synergy.

    (edit) If it already had at least one counter that is.
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  • #26
    Quote from teddy_bear_x
    The Simic watermark from Magic Set Editor is different. It can help to identify if this is fake or not, proving it's not :p


    Magic Set Editor uses the old watermarks. They haven't updated with the RTR ones.
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    So, you're a jellybean connoisseur.

    Boy, do you love jellybeans! More importantly, you love good jellybeans, meaning root beer flavored jellybeans. Because those are the good ones, and the other ones are bad.


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  • #27
    Well thats an interresting ability seen in the great designer search 2.

    Fits well with simic and I can definitely see some interesting things with that.
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