[IDW] Comic Book -The Spell Thief #4

  • #1
    http://www.newsarama.com/comics/idw-august-2012-solicitations.html

    Nice cover.

    Grixis! I love all this planes hopping.

    Magic: The Gathering—The Spell Thief #4
    Matt Forbeck (w) • Martín Cóccolo (a) • Alex Horley (c)
    Dack Fayden’s quest to track down the villainous Sifa Grent has brought him to Grixis, a vast wasteland dominated by the undead and vicious demons—including the demon-dragon Malfegor. Imprisoned by the demon’s cult, Dack soon discovers the morbid origins of Sifa and her sinister ties to Malfegor... but will he be able to escape this undead plane in order to stop her plans?
    FC • 32 pages • $4.99
    *Variant covers:
    Variant Tyler Walpole cover!
    Bullet points:
    • This issue includes an exclusive, alternate art playable Magic: The Gathering card!
    ATTACHMENTS
    • TheSpellThief4
  • #2
    Hmm, maybe Malfegor is the third of Lili's demons ....
  • #3
    Quote from Hunter
    Hmm, maybe Malfegor is the third of Lili's demons ....


    What do Dack Fayden and Sifa Grent have to do with Liliana?
    Nothing.
  • #4
    Malfegor wasn't killed by Rafiq in the novel Alara Unbroken? I think this is set aroubd the time of Innistrad soo... Well, Grixis was famous for its necromancers... And shouldn't be now refered as Alara?
  • #5
    When does it come out?

    Thank you to Rivenor for this awesome banner!

    Palladia-Mors of {The Spirit of EDH}


    EDH

    WLinvala, Queen of the AngelsW

    WUThe Prison of the Grand ArbiterUW [Primer]

    URNiv-Mizzet, Handcycling ComboRU

    WBObzedat, Life-gain StaxBW

    UTalrand, Drake-Slinging to VictoryU

    WUGDerevi, Planeswalker ControlGUW
  • #6
    The link pegs its release to be sometime in August.
  • #7
    Quote from Eldritchguy
    Malfegor wasn't killed by Rafiq in the novel Alara Unbroken? I think this is set aroubd the time of Innistrad soo... Well, Grixis was famous for its necromancers... And shouldn't be now refered as Alara?


    Grixis still exists, it's just more like... a country in the plane of Alara, rather than a whole plane in and of itself.
  • #8
    Quote from Eldritchguy
    Malfegor wasn't killed by Rafiq in the novel Alara Unbroken? I think this is set aroubd the time of Innistrad soo... Well, Grixis was famous for its necromancers... And shouldn't be now refered as Alara?


    Actually, since Avacyn was trapped in the Helvault for approximately a year, it's possible the comic series is happening pre-conflux.
    Which admittedly changes a lot of the way we have to look at this series.

    And no, Malfegor is NOT connected to Liliana.
  • #9
    Wait... Avacyn was trapped for just a year???
    I thought she was inside the Helvault for hundred of years, or at least a few decades...
  • #10
    Quote from Eldritchguy
    Malfegor wasn't killed by Rafiq in the novel Alara Unbroken? I think this is set aroubd the time of Innistrad soo... Well, Grixis was famous for its necromancers... And shouldn't be now refered as Alara?


    Yeah... I, too, am rather confused as to the chronology here.

    Let's see... before this issue, Dack was on Innistrad with Sorin, meaning that this issue takes place, at the earliest, after Innistrad block starts. I'm pretty sure Innistrad block takes place after Zendikar block; it seems a safe bet that Sorin arrived on Innistrad shortly after leaving Zendikar. Zendikar block has to take place after Alara block, as Sarkhan is Nicol's pawn by Rise of the Eldrazi, and the two hadn't even met before Shards of Alara. The Alara block novel, Alara Unbroken, seems to end shortly after Alara Reborn begins, but Sarkhan was present for the entire novel. It was during the novel that Malfegor was killed by the combined efforts of Rafiq and Elspeth. This means that, even allowing for the absolute maximum amount of chronological overlap, Malfegor is still dead well before Sorin has left Zendikar for Innistrad, where he meets Dack.

    ...Whoo, I think I went cross-eyed for a minute there. Anyway, the only explanations I can think of are that Malfegor was reanimated, that Dack traveled back in time, or that Innistrad actually takes place before Zendikar. The first two theories involve storytelling cliches that carry a heavy risk of misuse. The last one has no evidence to support it, and a fair amount to refute it.
  • #11
    Quote from theMarc
    Yeah... I, too, am rather confused as to the chronology here.

    Let's see... before this issue, Dack was on Innistrad with Sorin, meaning that this issue takes place, at the earliest, after Innistrad block starts. I'm pretty sure Innistrad block takes place after Zendikar block; it seems a safe bet that Sorin arrived on Innistrad shortly after leaving Zendikar. Zendikar block has to take place after Alara block, as Sarkhan is Nicol's pawn by Rise of the Eldrazi, and the two hadn't even met before Shards of Alara. The Alara block novel, Alara Unbroken, seems to end shortly after Alara Reborn begins, but Sarkhan was present for the entire novel. It was during the novel that Malfegor was killed by the combined efforts of Rafiq and Elspeth. This means that, even allowing for the absolute maximum amount of chronological overlap, Malfegor is still dead well before Sorin has left Zendikar for Innistrad, where he meets Dack.

    ...Whoo, I think I went cross-eyed for a minute there. Anyway, the only explanations I can think of are that Malfegor was reanimated, that Dack traveled back in time, or that Innistrad actually takes place before Zendikar. The first two theories involve storytelling cliches that carry a heavy risk of misuse. The last one has no evidence to support it, and a fair amount to refute it.


    No, it could also be explained by the fact that the walkers don't appear chronologically on the cards. (see: Jace appearing in Worldwake, Sarkhan in Rise, and Sorin in Zendikar. Totally out of order.)
    Tamiyo had been there since Innistrad began, Tibalt was a native, it's possible Sorin arrived before Liliana and in fact had to leave before he could solve the issue of Avacyn being gone.
    It's entirely possible Sorin, Lord of Innistrad appeared very shortly after Avacyn was locked away and had to leave to deal with Zendikar, as there is nothing that chronologically ties him to the sets.

    All the events since the Conflux have taken place approximately in the same year, with about six months being the largest gap between what transpired (between The Brood being freed and the Titans being freed.)

    Alternatively, IDW didn't double check with creative since creative declared hands off to keep from micro-managing.
  • #13
    Quote from Barinellos
    No, it could also be explained by the fact that the walkers don't appear chronologically on the cards. (see: Jace appearing in Worldwake, Sarkhan in Rise, and Sorin in Zendikar. Totally out of order.)
    Tamiyo had been there since Innistrad began, Tibalt was a native, it's possible Sorin arrived before Liliana and in fact had to leave before he could solve the issue of Avacyn being gone.
    It's entirely possible Sorin, Lord of Innistrad appeared very shortly after Avacyn was locked away and had to leave to deal with Zendikar, as there is nothing that chronologically ties him to the sets.


    I had kinda considered that, especially the part about how the timing of the printing of a planeswalker's card within a block doesn't always translate to when they showed up in the story, but I decided to lump that and any related theories together under the "ZEN is after INN" umbrella.

    And anyway, it still means that the timeline is wacky as all hell. I really wish that someone over at WotC would straighten this stuff out ahead of time. Like, I dunno, write up a plotline cheat-sheet that IDW (or authors, if they were still doing books) can refer to.
  • #14
    Quote from theMarc
    I had kinda considered that, especially the part about how the timing of the printing of a planeswalker's card within a block doesn't always translate to when they showed up in the story, but I decided to lump that and any related theories together under the "ZEN is after INN" umbrella.

    And anyway, it still means that the timeline is wacky as all hell. I really wish that someone over at WotC would straighten this stuff out ahead of time. Like, I dunno, write up a plotline cheat-sheet that IDW (or authors, if they were still doing books) can refer to.


    Well, part of the problem is that the Innistrad plotline spans a great amount of time, which isn't exactly anomalous, but still throws calculations off.
    I'd say it's much more likely that Zendikar and Innistrad are concurrent since Innistrad starts so much earlier than most of the blocks we've taken a look at these days.

    So, the way I'm seeing it play out is:
    *Alara begins to come together.
    *Innistrad begins. (Including Dack and Sorin's sojourns)
    *Conflux happens.
    *Zendikar then takes place.
    *Scars of Mirrodin takes place.
    *Avacyn is Restored, perhaps simultaneously with Scars.
  • #15
    Anyone have word on what the promo card is?

    Also, I can't seem to find a release date. Can anyone estimate? October? November?
    Last edited by Hamberglar: 10/17/2012 11:14:05 AM
  • #16
    Should be approximately 4 weeks after the previous issue. How long ago was that?

    Wizards could put $100 bills in packs and people would complain about how they were folded.

    http://www.twitter.com/Dr_Jeebus - Follow me on Twitter!
    Check out www.mtgbrodeals.com for daily content from the brothers of Mu Tau Gamma!
  • #17
    Quote from Dr. Jeebus
    Should be approximately 4 weeks after the previous issue. How long ago was that?


    September 26
  • #18
    Maybe Malfegor just didn't die?

    Inb4HESAPLANESWALKER
    Proud Member of the "Help Fblthp Get Home in DGM" Society


    Quote from WoodWraith
    Quote from PiMan
    Quote from WoodWraith
    So many ooze cards in RTR block! Now all we need is an "ooze lord".
    We have Mark Rosewater already.
    Yeah,but his weakness to bus based removal is so crippling. Certainly not a 4 of.
  • #19
    Could be nice if the Promo is Malfegor
    If there is such a thing as too much power, I have not discovered it!


    BBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBB
  • #20
    Quote from Dr. Jeebus
    Should be approximately 4 weeks after the previous issue. How long ago was that?


    Should be, but this is IDW we're talking about. I think there was anywhere from 6-8 weeks between the last two issues.
  • #21
    Quote from Shaderulz
    Could be nice if the Promo is Malfegor


    If it was, that'd be awesome.

    But they've only done spells I believe =(
    Proud Member of the "Help Fblthp Get Home in DGM" Society


    Quote from WoodWraith
    Quote from PiMan
    Quote from WoodWraith
    So many ooze cards in RTR block! Now all we need is an "ooze lord".
    We have Mark Rosewater already.
    Yeah,but his weakness to bus based removal is so crippling. Certainly not a 4 of.
  • #22
    Could just be a flashback scene. Before Malfegor died, Grent knew of him and associated with him. Good tie-in with an already known character, and provides her a bit of backstory.
    Decks
    60-Card Casual
    XUX Vintage Illegal Myr/Eldrazi

    EDH
    R Urabrask the Hidden
    WBR Oros, the Avenger
  • #23
    It looks like she is controlling or commanding him, so If I were to venture a guess, then it would be Mark of Mutiny, or Traitorous Blood.
    "It's like some kind of Voltron... made of elephants??"


    Credit goes to Brofoux for the Sig pic.


    Current Modern Deck
    Black Licorice
    http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?p=11006564#post11006564
  • #24
    Quote from Cactuscorpus
    It looks like she is controlling or commanding him, so If I were to venture a guess, then it would be Mark of Mutiny, or Traitorous Blood.


    Don't say that. We want more good promos like Standstill.
  • #25
    When Brady refers to Malfegor's appearance as a "data point", what exactly does that mean?
  • #26
    Quote from Cactuscorpus
    It looks like she is controlling or commanding him, so If I were to venture a guess, then it would be Mark of Mutiny, or Traitorous Blood.


    lol no it doesnt. it looks like the person is either being sacrificed or has simply lost all hope in the face of a powerful demon
    Who cares if its good in EDH or Limited? 95% of cards are.

    Drinking game idea: when someone blindly agrees on blogatog no matter how erroneous or short-sighted maro's reply is
  • To post a comment, please or register a new account.
Posts Quoted:
Reply
Clear All Quotes