What a joke!...So They spoil a creature that cant be counter paired to a good Counterspell.
Why are they hating so much on counters?...I know They want to push combat for new (or fairly new) players, but heck**
How about Wizards don't print any counterspells on this set, and instead of using "Can't be counter" meh ability, put a better and more relevant-to-combat ability...
Oh man.......really? I'm depressed. Ravnica is Blue's funeral.
I'm dead serious.
And you're dead wrong too. Jace 4.0 is awesome in controllish blue decks. Syncopate, is decent replacement for Mana Leak. And those are the only two mono-blue cards spoiled so far.
What a joke!...So They spoil a creature that cant be counter paired to a good Counterspell.
Why are they hating so much on counters?...I know They want to push combat for new (or fairly new) players, but heck**
How about Wizards don't print any counterspells on this set, and instead of using "Can't be counter" meh ability, put a better and more relevant-to-combat ability...
At least this Elephant doesn't come with Hexproof.
It's still not colorless, and has no color. That's a paradox. So either you're a Zen master or an idiot, I'll assume the Zen master for sake of argument. This card will have no paradoxes because it has a clear paradox. Deep stuff man.
If Blue doesnt get a strong Counterspell....Then its official....Blue is a dead color in Ravnica.
Since people often cast spells at top of their mana curve for the first 4-5 turns this is basically "1U: Exile target spell" most times.
Obviously Blue players will not be happy until we get "U: Counter all spells target player casts for the rest of the game. You may draw 7 cards instead paying ~ casting cost."
I'm calling it right now- worst rare in the set. Even good limited players will find better bombs at common and uncommon no sweat. Worst. Episode. Ever.
I really do predict this to be our worst rare in set award winner. I'd be happier opening a jar of eyeballs, so I think anything worse is highly unlikely. This card wont just have zero constructed potential, but not be significantly better than a mass of ghouls in a draft.
Opponent only. It's just gonna sit in your graveyard.
No really, why is everyone so nonchalant about a 4/4 for 3? Y'all are spoiled rotten. Who cares if it's just a dude?
We had a 4/5 for 3 in standard not to long ago. Albeit triple green and without upsides vs discard and can't be countered. It saw very little play. We also had a 3/4 lifelink for 3 before it didn't see a ton of play. The thing is 3+ mana creatures typically have to be really really good to see play.
Realistically Smiter isn't all that playable MD. Possible a good SB card if that R/B mindshatter becomes a thing in standard.
If Blue doesnt get a strong Counterspell....Then its official....Blue is a dead color in Ravnica.
Broken ambitions was pretty big in standard. Pretty much was a 4 of in fae and 5CC lists. Syncopate has stronger upside and is actually fair with SCM. Since you don't the derp games when someones go Play first Delver go, 2 flip leak, turn 3 leak, turn 4 SCM leak, Turn 5 SCM leak you dead bro?
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Calling someone a Commie is flaming and must be stopped, but turning the word Conservative into a loaded pejorative and using it over and over again is perfectly acceptable.
Maybe you guys could whine like you did when Jund was around and get another Jace! All the while having Snapcaster still in standard no less!
Meanwhile, wizards once again seems to have forgotten about red.
JTMS is far too weak for standard now. They need to print a planeswalker that costs U and has a +1 stating "You win the game" in order for it to satisfy the blue players.
Wizards is absolutely trying to Push Green and Black decks to Top Tier, by hook or by crook.
All of the best cards revealed have been for either color, or both. White hasnt been shown much, Red has gotten some werid, situational stuff, and Blue has so far gotten nothing...and with previous cards in the meta shifted towards Hating Blue until it never sees play...You really have to question the R&D Department about why they went down this road with the Lead Set Designer.
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The uncounterable spells are a cycle, people. There is only one more to be revealed. Two of them only benefit control decks, and another looks like it'll be a rare sideboard option. Chill.
I am a bit worried that WotC thinks Syncophate is the super-amazing-counterspell-that-deserves-a-preview-article. Still hoping for a WU counterspell.
A body designed to beat aggro with a couple of anti-control upsides? If the deck to beat happens to have a bunch of non-evasive beaters (zombies), you could run a couple of these main deck and not feel TOTALLY awful whenever you face the pure control decks. Neat.
Syncopate is alright. Let's hope there are good instants big enough that you can keep a bunch of mana open and not feel like a jerk when they don't play anything worth paying a bunch of mana to counter.
Oh man.......really? I'm depressed. Ravnica is Blue's funeral.
I'm dead serious.
Ummm...we have like 91 cards spoiled so far? We don't even know what else Azorious gets...let alone what good cards Dimir and Simic will get in Gatecrash. Pretty early to write off blue don't you think?
As for the Loxodon Smiter...it looks like an upgraded Watchwolf. Watchwolf took power creep for vailla beaters up a notch and this is similar but I would not say better.
JTMS is far too weak for standard now. They need to print a planeswalker that costs U and has a +1 stating "You win the game" in order for it to satisfy the blue players.
Gets countered by Misstep in formats other than Standard...
If any noteworthy blue spell is likely to get reprinted from Ravnica: City of Guilds block, it's Voidslime guys. That said, I welcome our 4/4 will-land-into-play Loxodon Overlord. All it needs now is a means of gaining lifelink for +ridiculous points.
In the meantime, I am going to try and find the asymptotes for this thread which has turned more hyperbolic (BLUE IS DEAD!) than f(x) = 1/x.
Smiter is.... eh, whatever. Rare card is rare, nothing else to say about this.
As per Syncopate, what interests me is the art. The quality makes it hard for me not to think that the woman in the art is not based on some famous person or something. Very pretty.
Why are they hating so much on counters?...I know They want to push combat for new (or fairly new) players, but heck**
How about Wizards don't print any counterspells on this set, and instead of using "Can't be counter" meh ability, put a better and more relevant-to-combat ability...
And you're dead wrong too. Jace 4.0 is awesome in controllish blue decks. Syncopate, is decent replacement for Mana Leak. And those are the only two mono-blue cards spoiled so far.
At least this Elephant doesn't come with Hexproof.
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Since people often cast spells at top of their mana curve for the first 4-5 turns this is basically "1U: Exile target spell" most times.
Obviously Blue players will not be happy until we get "U: Counter all spells target player casts for the rest of the game. You may draw 7 cards instead paying ~ casting cost."
We had a 4/5 for 3 in standard not to long ago. Albeit triple green and without upsides vs discard and can't be countered. It saw very little play. We also had a 3/4 lifelink for 3 before it didn't see a ton of play. The thing is 3+ mana creatures typically have to be really really good to see play.
Realistically Smiter isn't all that playable MD. Possible a good SB card if that R/B mindshatter becomes a thing in standard.
Broken ambitions was pretty big in standard. Pretty much was a 4 of in fae and 5CC lists. Syncopate has stronger upside and is actually fair with SCM. Since you don't the derp games when someones go Play first Delver go, 2 flip leak, turn 3 leak, turn 4 SCM leak, Turn 5 SCM leak you dead bro?
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Calling someone a Commie is flaming and must be stopped, but turning the word Conservative into a loaded pejorative and using it over and over again is perfectly acceptable.
JTMS is far too weak for standard now. They need to print a planeswalker that costs U and has a +1 stating "You win the game" in order for it to satisfy the blue players.
I like.
Smiter is being underestimated here.
T1 Elf/Pilgrim
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All of the best cards revealed have been for either color, or both. White hasnt been shown much, Red has gotten some werid, situational stuff, and Blue has so far gotten nothing...and with previous cards in the meta shifted towards Hating Blue until it never sees play...You really have to question the R&D Department about why they went down this road with the Lead Set Designer.
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I am a bit worried that WotC thinks Syncophate is the super-amazing-counterspell-that-deserves-a-preview-article. Still hoping for a WU counterspell.
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Syncopate is alright. Let's hope there are good instants big enough that you can keep a bunch of mana open and not feel like a jerk when they don't play anything worth paying a bunch of mana to counter.
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Ummm...we have like 91 cards spoiled so far? We don't even know what else Azorious gets...let alone what good cards Dimir and Simic will get in Gatecrash. Pretty early to write off blue don't you think?
As for the Loxodon Smiter...it looks like an upgraded Watchwolf. Watchwolf took power creep for vailla beaters up a notch and this is similar but I would not say better.
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Another great creature in the likes of Scragnoth, Quagnoth, and Spellbreaker Behemoth!
Go Loxodon Smiter!
If you wanna get technical...when you factor Cavern of Souls, every Creature has the potential to be uncounterable.
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I'm more worried that this will somehow cause Wizards to give blue special treatment once more.
Gets countered by Misstep in formats other than Standard...
So, basically Mindbreak Trap???
It seems like an okay card. I'll probably play it if there aren't any other good counterspells. At least we still have Dissipate.
And that one troll guy.
... If I only had a nickel
In the meantime, I am going to try and find the asymptotes for this thread which has turned more hyperbolic (BLUE IS DEAD!) than f(x) = 1/x.
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As per Syncopate, what interests me is the art. The quality makes it hard for me not to think that the woman in the art is not based on some famous person or something. Very pretty.