"As a special treat to everyone who HATES the unholy MANA SCREW, WOTC decided enough was enough with people not being able to cast their spells. In case you've been counting the number of times we've said it (a lot), you can stop now. THE RAVNICA 'SHOCK' DUAL LANDS WILL BE COMMONS IN M13 SO THAT EVERYONE CAN HAVE A 40-CARD PLAYSET AND IF YOU OPEN NICOL BOLAS IN LIMITED, YOU WILL STRAIGHT UP TEAR EVERYONE TO PIECES!"
"We do not plan to make Dual Lands like this Common ever again. This is a special treat to celebrate Return To Ravnica, Gold Strategies like Planeswalkers and Commander, and Killing the Mana Screw. We still care deeply about the color pie, but we want people to be able to build any 2 or 3 color deck they want for casual games without having to spend lots of money on lands."
Merry Christmas In July-
Wizards of the Coast
I can dream, can't I?
If they made a functional reprint of the shocklands (maybe even bumped it up to 3 damage and made them uncommon) I would pretty much do unspeakable things to myself.
On the off chance though, if they are ever reprinted, be prepared to see a massive price rise on them in addition to probably being relabeled at the mythic rarity.
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Brian Tinsman, Set Designer :?mana::snow::snow:
Legendary Creature – Human Designer (MR)
Brian Tinsman, Set Designer can only be cast during the third set of a block.
When Brian Tinsman, Set Designer enters the battlefield, ignore all flavor and mechanics of the first two sets in the block. "Ok so what do we have here... gothic horror? Scrap it. Expand the Devine Vs. Demonic duel deck to 244 cards and print it!"
2/2
If they made a functional reprint of the shocklands (maybe even bumped it up to 3 damage and made them uncommon) I would pretty much do unspeakable things to myself.
On the off chance though, if they are ever reprinted, be prepared to see a massive price rise on them in addition to probably being relabeled at the mythic rarity.
Despite all the grumbling on utility cards and mythics in general, the one thing I'd doubt WotC would do is walk back that they won't print land cycles at Mythic.
I hope that Celestial Purge rotates out in M13. I always thought it hilarious that it and Bolas come out in the same set...way to promote your big bad PW that dies to a 2 mana instant WotC.:rolleyes:
If they made a functional reprint of the shocklands (maybe even bumped it up to 3 damage and made them uncommon) I would pretty much do unspeakable things to myself.
On the off chance though, if they are ever reprinted, be prepared to see a massive price rise on them in addition to probably being relabeled at the mythic rarity.
I'm with you there. I play lots of EDH so I could definitely use them. Why can't they make something like mountain plains - add 1W/1R mana to your mana pool. Cumulative upkeep-2damage
Despite all the grumbling on utility cards and mythics in general, the one thing I'd doubt WotC would do is walk back that they won't print land cycles at Mythic.
I hope that Celestial Purge rotates out in M13. I always thought it hilarious that it and Bolas come out in the same set...way to promote your big bad PW that dies to a 2 mana instant WotC.:rolleyes:
I really hope it does too. If there's one thing white doesn't need, it's "situational" removal that hits all permanent types at a low cost and instant speed that removes it from the game entirely, especially with a multicolor block coming up.
If anything, they should be Uncommon to help supply issues, as someone said earlier.
And this is coming from someone who already has a full set-
I just think everyone should be able to build whatever deck they want
without the mana bases costing over $100.
Momir Vig, Simic Visionary
Melek, Izzet Paragon
Oona, Queen of the Fae
Bruna, Light of Alabaster
Gisela, Blade of Goldnight
Rhys the Redeemed
Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord
Sen Triplets
The Mimeoplasm WUBRGSliver OverlordGRBUW WUBRGSliver Hivelord(Superfriends)GRBUW
Heh, what makes you say that?
I've never quite seen a post like that-
I guess they have an interesting filter here.
Speaking of filters... they should reprint Filterlands in a Core Set.
I wonder if this new "gold" Core Set will have any Hybrid cards?
Hybrid Mana for life, yo!
Momir Vig, Simic Visionary
Melek, Izzet Paragon
Oona, Queen of the Fae
Bruna, Light of Alabaster
Gisela, Blade of Goldnight
Rhys the Redeemed
Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord
Sen Triplets
The Mimeoplasm WUBRGSliver OverlordGRBUW WUBRGSliver Hivelord(Superfriends)GRBUW
Hybrid undermines Gold, as it's just plain better.
I do like the Filter lands though, some of the best duals imo. By extension, the rare Odyssey lands are slightly better, not requiring color to play the ability. However, I think those lands have memory problems, as it's easy to forget that you can't just tap it for 2 mana, you have to pay one, and that can mess up your color math. So I doubt they'll be reprinted ever.
So we are getting the old Nicol Bolas back? I was hoping for a newer slimmer version. I mean in EDH it will be ok like usual but in Standard I can't imagine casting that guy out anytime soon. Or surviving.
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To the people that say that a card needs to be a higher rarity because of Limited... I hate you guys so much. I present to you with this.
Momir Vig, Simic Visionary
Melek, Izzet Paragon
Oona, Queen of the Fae
Bruna, Light of Alabaster
Gisela, Blade of Goldnight
Rhys the Redeemed
Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord
Sen Triplets
The Mimeoplasm WUBRGSliver OverlordGRBUW WUBRGSliver Hivelord(Superfriends)GRBUW
Yeah I do. I was wondering why the price of the Nicol Bolas planeswalker dropping like a sac of rocks. I know he got technically reprinted through the Duel Deck, his old printing was still commanding 16-18 bucks. Now his old version is 10 bucks. I guess the price drop is because of the reprint speculation.
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Not really. It all comes down to individual card designs. That is like saying artifacts undermine colored cards.
I was thinking the EXACT same thing. Hybrid is Awesome, but Gold gets more power. They are two totally different things, Gold being multi color and Hyrbrid being either color.
Yeah I do. I was wondering why the price of the Nicol Bolas planeswalker dropping like a sac of rocks. I know he got technically reprinted through the Duel Deck, his old printing was still commanding 16-18 bucks. Now his old version is 10 bucks. I guess the price drop is because of the reprint speculation.
Tell me about it!
The only good cards I got in that box of Alara stuff were him and Noble Hierarch (also likely to be reprinted) -_-
Momir Vig, Simic Visionary
Melek, Izzet Paragon
Oona, Queen of the Fae
Bruna, Light of Alabaster
Gisela, Blade of Goldnight
Rhys the Redeemed
Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord
Sen Triplets
The Mimeoplasm WUBRGSliver OverlordGRBUW WUBRGSliver Hivelord(Superfriends)GRBUW
[QUOTE=Polendino;/comments/5565043]The latter also one-ups the former in exactly the same way. I think I'm missing something here
It becomes a game of "who lands second?", since Karn will just eat Bolas, but Bolas can just eradicate Karn.QUOTE]
This comment makes me think we are likely to see a VERY Powerful deck with both Karn and Bolas in it. Or at least a deck has a huge of potential, and may, or may not, have enough support to become dominant.
I'm thinking it would want to be a 5-color deck, since I find it difficult to believe you could do it without Green (Birds is just really good, AND we have that Druid that taps for Lotus now) and once you are using great ramp and fixing like that and Cavern of Souls (it's like, almost strictly better than City of Brass. Not there yet, but it's so good I think it's just going to get used by most multi-colored decks that have creatures.) And going from 4-colors to 5-colors lets you play Sorin, Lord of Innistrad, Elspeth2, Venser, and Gideon/Ajani/whoever is the White M13 Walker.
I am probably every color-combination it is possible to be, though it's really hard to figure out what it would mean to be 4-colored....it doesn't seem logical to be 4-colored without being 5-colored.
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It is not.
If they made a functional reprint of the shocklands (maybe even bumped it up to 3 damage and made them uncommon) I would pretty much do unspeakable things to myself.
On the off chance though, if they are ever reprinted, be prepared to see a massive price rise on them in addition to probably being relabeled at the mythic rarity.
Legendary Creature – Human Designer (MR)
Brian Tinsman, Set Designer can only be cast during the third set of a block.
When Brian Tinsman, Set Designer enters the battlefield, ignore all flavor and mechanics of the first two sets in the block.
"Ok so what do we have here... gothic horror? Scrap it. Expand the Devine Vs. Demonic duel deck to 244 cards and print it!"
2/2
Despite all the grumbling on utility cards and mythics in general, the one thing I'd doubt WotC would do is walk back that they won't print land cycles at Mythic.
I hope that Celestial Purge rotates out in M13. I always thought it hilarious that it and Bolas come out in the same set...way to promote your big bad PW that dies to a 2 mana instant WotC.:rolleyes:
I'm with you there. I play lots of EDH so I could definitely use them. Why can't they make something like mountain plains - add 1W/1R mana to your mana pool. Cumulative upkeep-2damage
My Saffi deck
I really hope it does too. If there's one thing white doesn't need, it's "situational" removal that hits all permanent types at a low cost and instant speed that removes it from the game entirely, especially with a multicolor block coming up.
Do you honestly want to pay $30+ for each one?!
If anything, they should be Uncommon to help supply issues, as someone said earlier.
And this is coming from someone who already has a full set-
I just think everyone should be able to build whatever deck they want
without the mana bases costing over $100.
And Jenx, that's basically Nimbus Maze.
Reprint Stasis!
Control needs more love.
EDH:
Momir Vig, Simic Visionary
Melek, Izzet Paragon
Oona, Queen of the Fae
Bruna, Light of Alabaster
Gisela, Blade of Goldnight
Rhys the Redeemed
Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord
Sen Triplets
The Mimeoplasm
WUBRGSliver OverlordGRBUW
WUBRGSliver Hivelord(Superfriends)GRBUW
Reminds me more of the tainted lands from torment.
UBBreya's Toybox (Competitive, Combo)WR
RGodzilla, King of the MonstersG
-Retired Decks-
UBLazav, Dimir Mastermind (Competitive, UB Voltron/Control)UB
"Knowledge is such a burden. Release it. Release all your fears to me."
—Ashiok, Nightmare Weaver
Heh, what makes you say that?
I've never quite seen a post like that-
I guess they have an interesting filter here.
Speaking of filters... they should reprint Filterlands in a Core Set.
I wonder if this new "gold" Core Set will have any Hybrid cards?
Hybrid Mana for life, yo!
Reprint Stasis!
Control needs more love.
EDH:
Momir Vig, Simic Visionary
Melek, Izzet Paragon
Oona, Queen of the Fae
Bruna, Light of Alabaster
Gisela, Blade of Goldnight
Rhys the Redeemed
Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord
Sen Triplets
The Mimeoplasm
WUBRGSliver OverlordGRBUW
WUBRGSliver Hivelord(Superfriends)GRBUW
I do like the Filter lands though, some of the best duals imo. By extension, the rare Odyssey lands are slightly better, not requiring color to play the ability. However, I think those lands have memory problems, as it's easy to forget that you can't just tap it for 2 mana, you have to pay one, and that can mess up your color math. So I doubt they'll be reprinted ever.
"HAI! I'm Nicol Bolas! Plusthreeee! Nom nom nom your non-creature permanents!"
"But Bolas, why are you UBR if your +3 is Bramblecrush!?"
"...QUESTION NOT MY DEDICATION TO BLUE, BLACK AND RED."
Level 1 Judge
Not really. It all comes down to individual card designs. That is like saying artifacts undermine colored cards.
If they do, I would be SO happy! Sarkhan Vol could use a reprint (or maybe we'll have Sarkhan 3.0!).
43/111, approximately 39% complete. Over a third done.
(calling it now; there will be a cycle of Legendary dual lands with Basic Land types in Theros block)
... AAAAAAAAND I was wrong
The Attention Deficit Guy URGU
The latter also one-ups the former in exactly the same way. I think I'm missing something here
It becomes a game of "who lands second?", since Karn will just eat Bolas, but Bolas can just eradicate Karn.
I don't think anyone likes Geist of Saint Traft.
Level 1 Judge
I'd be interested in Ajani Vengent making a return. Him with Tamiyo in a USA control deck.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SY8h2vp5Xis
It appears so, as long as you mean Nicol Bolas, Planeswalker.
Reprint Stasis!
Control needs more love.
EDH:
Momir Vig, Simic Visionary
Melek, Izzet Paragon
Oona, Queen of the Fae
Bruna, Light of Alabaster
Gisela, Blade of Goldnight
Rhys the Redeemed
Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord
Sen Triplets
The Mimeoplasm
WUBRGSliver OverlordGRBUW
WUBRGSliver Hivelord(Superfriends)GRBUW
Yeah I do. I was wondering why the price of the Nicol Bolas planeswalker dropping like a sac of rocks. I know he got technically reprinted through the Duel Deck, his old printing was still commanding 16-18 bucks. Now his old version is 10 bucks. I guess the price drop is because of the reprint speculation.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SY8h2vp5Xis
I was thinking the EXACT same thing. Hybrid is Awesome, but Gold gets more power. They are two totally different things, Gold being multi color and Hyrbrid being either color.
Cyriss07
Tell me about it!
The only good cards I got in that box of Alara stuff were him and Noble Hierarch (also likely to be reprinted) -_-
Reprint Stasis!
Control needs more love.
EDH:
Momir Vig, Simic Visionary
Melek, Izzet Paragon
Oona, Queen of the Fae
Bruna, Light of Alabaster
Gisela, Blade of Goldnight
Rhys the Redeemed
Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord
Sen Triplets
The Mimeoplasm
WUBRGSliver OverlordGRBUW
WUBRGSliver Hivelord(Superfriends)GRBUW
This would make me *incredibly* happy^
It becomes a game of "who lands second?", since Karn will just eat Bolas, but Bolas can just eradicate Karn.QUOTE]
This comment makes me think we are likely to see a VERY Powerful deck with both Karn and Bolas in it. Or at least a deck has a huge of potential, and may, or may not, have enough support to become dominant.
I'm thinking it would want to be a 5-color deck, since I find it difficult to believe you could do it without Green (Birds is just really good, AND we have that Druid that taps for Lotus now) and once you are using great ramp and fixing like that and Cavern of Souls (it's like, almost strictly better than City of Brass. Not there yet, but it's so good I think it's just going to get used by most multi-colored decks that have creatures.) And going from 4-colors to 5-colors lets you play Sorin, Lord of Innistrad, Elspeth2, Venser, and Gideon/Ajani/whoever is the White M13 Walker.
People need to read this fanfiction, though:
www.hpmor.com
I am probably every color-combination it is possible to be, though it's really hard to figure out what it would mean to be 4-colored....it doesn't seem logical to be 4-colored without being 5-colored.