Kind of tempted to put this into my Animar EDH, since I only have like 2 non-permanent cards in the entire deck....only problem is, I don't know if the deck can reach 10 mana quickly since I lack mana ramp spells.
You can put together some janky tier 5 combo deck built around this card, but really it's trash. Your gameplan is to resolve a 10 CMC spell, and you fold to any counters or hand disruption. Not a recipe for success. This is the worst mythic ever, at least Lorthos was good for a laugh.
NOOOOO! Cmon RnD Green commander decks dont need more insta win cards!!!
Most games are just decided by 1 of 4 green Cards: Tooth and Nail, Genesis Wave, Avenger of Zendikar, Hermit Druid or even Praetor's Council just puts you insanely far ahead. Its so easy to build a Green Black deck that is 95% permanents, creatures and walkers can do anything these days, not to mention how easy it is to recur these spells in green. Oops I putt my whole deck into play! No other color has anything even remotely close to this in abstract power level. Please Stop breaking green for Commander Wotc and please bann some of these over dominant insta win cards.
Believe it or not, Genesis Wave was the second card I thought of when I red this. The first was Mind's Desire.
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What a let down. I laugh at the people who will undoubtedly whiff with this card. Genesis Wave wasn't a mythic, and this one is? Oh goody.
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Not bad but not really worth all the hype that wizards was putting behind it
I like it alot but its really limited i can see a lot of use in a pod deck but it also means no removal spells so its not all that good
I kinda like it but in green you also have overrun which could be a win condition and now its exiled so its a really big build around me card. Its kinda a
card only a little better and alot worse at the same time.
Oops I putt my whole deck into play!
Follow up if you put your whole deck on the field you lose next turn so its really bad unless everything has haste which you could do with enchants and i think there is a new card that gives haste not sure and to lazy to check
Not bad but not really worth all the hype that wizards was putting behind it
I like it alot but its really limited i can see a lot of use in a pod deck but it also means no removal spells so its not all that good
I kinda like it but in green you also have overrun which could be a win condition and now its exiled so its a really big build around me card. Its kinda a
card only a little better and alot worse at the same time.
Exactly. "OMFGGG! You all will jis HAVE to ramp to this!! Totally gonna be gameBUSTING!"
...and we get this.
I texted my friend today 2 words. "Force Spike." (You get the idea.)
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"7,015 creatures in existence. They all die to removal."
Never before has a boy wanted more...zombie slaying.
The way I see it, people will make this into a deck, just straight up blow people off the face of the map by dumping their library onto the board 1/4 of the time. The other 3/4, the deck does nothing spectacular, or the spell just gets countered, and you just lose. Then you realize that the deck is inconsistent jank, you take it apart and this card becomes a dollar mythic. Done.
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The way I see it, people will make this into a deck, just straight up blow people off the face of the map by dumping their library onto the board 1/4 of the time. The other 3/4, the deck does nothing spectacular, or the spell just gets countered, and you just lose. Then you realize that the deck is inconsistent jank, you take it apart and this card becomes a dollar mythic. Done.
You just described just about every Timmy-Johnny deck in existence.
What's cool is you can build a rug deck with this, Inferno Titan, and a bunch of clones (Phantasmal Image etc.). When everything comes into play just copy inferno titan and win
You could always run a 1-of Elixir of Immortality to ensure you don't die to decking the following turn. Urabrask works wonders, as well. A 1-of Curse of Exhaustion and Knowledge Pool would end the game, as well.
However, that deck concept is a little too out there for me. Definitely interesting card, though.
As a connoisseur of fun, interesting matches, I still to this day have not been able to craft that "perfect deck"; the deck that I can play and have fun over time, doesn't get boring, but simultaneously is fun to play against. I honestly don't think it exists. It's like a unicorn. A ninja unicorn.
Can you find a way to play prime time on turn 4-5 with out instants or sorceries in standard? Yeah. I think so. dawntreader elk, viridian emissary, sphere of the suns, solemn, birds...
wow, all you need is 2 of any of those permanents and prime time lands turn 4, possibly uncounterable if you have the land. hey, next turn you attack you got... 10 mana. hmm...
That is stopped by any removal or boardsweeper ever. Go ahead and get all your creatures out and don't get mad when I play DoJ or BSZ next turn.
Second, the "too expensive to cast for standard" argument is soooo played out. If Jin-Gitaxias can make it into GP and Pro Tour decklists, stuff like this can too. It's just up to more creative minds to figure out how to "break" it. Pretty sure I remember some Eldrazi hardcasts happening in competitive play fairly recently
Why do people keep saying this? Pretty much every deck that hard casts these sorts of cards and isn't doing some combo, has removal spells/counter spells, and lots of them. You effectively can't run those here.
Sure you can maindeck 4 acidic slimes, and the persist counterspell, and all sorts of other etb creatures enchantments and what not. They are far more costly, and generally speaking, far, far more inefficient at what they do than just blowing a 2 CC instant to nuke that pesky creature, enchantment, or whatever.
The constraints for this are not the same as casting eldrazi. Casting eldrazi is simply a matter of ramping yourself up to large amounts of mana. You are free to bring whatever you want to get there. Casting this, requires you to not only ramp hard, but to do it without any real presence of instants and sorceries in your deck at all. Either that or you must be running selective memory, or some other way to rig your top draws/entire deck. In all cases this wastes cards. Either you bring less efficient effects, or you bring effects to get rid of the efficient ones when the time comes.
Hell, if you want to get pedantic, you don't even technically need green to ramp into eldrazi, although I realize that's a fairly idiotic thing to try and do if you aren't doing some combo. This has color requirements, and the eldrazi don't. Color requirements for the casting (which are pretty trivial), and color requirements for the filtering you will have to do if you don't want to cripple yourself by not running good instants and sorceries.
The point is, the two are not equatable. This is considerably more constrictive in the sort of deck that it can even be moderately useful in.
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Believe it or not, Genesis Wave was the second card I thought of when I red this. The first was Mind's Desire.
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What a let down. I laugh at the people who will undoubtedly whiff with this card. Genesis Wave wasn't a mythic, and this one is? Oh goody.
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I like it alot but its really limited i can see a lot of use in a pod deck but it also means no removal spells so its not all that good
I kinda like it but in green you also have overrun which could be a win condition and now its exiled so its a really big build around me card. Its kinda a
- Garruk's horde
- oracle of mul daya
card only a little better and alot worse at the same time.Follow up if you put your whole deck on the field you lose next turn so its really bad unless everything has haste which you could do with enchants and i think there is a new card that gives haste not sure and to lazy to check
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Exactly. "OMFGGG! You all will jis HAVE to ramp to this!! Totally gonna be gameBUSTING!"
...and we get this.
I texted my friend today 2 words. "Force Spike." (You get the idea.)
An actor without a director is but a mannequin.
While a director without a writer is unemployed.
But ultimately a writer without words is dead.
~R. D. Newman
"7,015 creatures in existence. They all die to removal."
Never before has a boy wanted more...zombie slaying.
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Is everyone so quick to forget Archangel's Light? This card will actually do something useful.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpgjnU7C3Aw
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4 Llanowar Elves
4 Viridian Emissary
4 Solemn Simulacrum
3 Sphere of the Suns
2 Urabrask the Hidden
4 Inferno Titan
3 Primal Surge
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Seems like a cool card. I wanna try it in my edh deck.
That said, while this isn't a good card, in a deck built around it, i does read "8GG: You Win" and there is something to be said about that.
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You just described just about every Timmy-Johnny deck in existence.
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Something cool. Like the mongooses. The Fighting Mongooses.
That's this decks new name.
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However, that deck concept is a little too out there for me. Definitely interesting card, though.
Yup. If it's a choice between one SPECTACULAR win and 5 losses, vs. 5 dull wins and 1 loss, I'd gladly take the former.
That is stopped by any removal or boardsweeper ever. Go ahead and get all your creatures out and don't get mad when I play DoJ or BSZ next turn.
Why do people keep saying this? Pretty much every deck that hard casts these sorts of cards and isn't doing some combo, has removal spells/counter spells, and lots of them. You effectively can't run those here.
Sure you can maindeck 4 acidic slimes, and the persist counterspell, and all sorts of other etb creatures enchantments and what not. They are far more costly, and generally speaking, far, far more inefficient at what they do than just blowing a 2 CC instant to nuke that pesky creature, enchantment, or whatever.
The constraints for this are not the same as casting eldrazi. Casting eldrazi is simply a matter of ramping yourself up to large amounts of mana. You are free to bring whatever you want to get there. Casting this, requires you to not only ramp hard, but to do it without any real presence of instants and sorceries in your deck at all. Either that or you must be running selective memory, or some other way to rig your top draws/entire deck. In all cases this wastes cards. Either you bring less efficient effects, or you bring effects to get rid of the efficient ones when the time comes.
Hell, if you want to get pedantic, you don't even technically need green to ramp into eldrazi, although I realize that's a fairly idiotic thing to try and do if you aren't doing some combo. This has color requirements, and the eldrazi don't. Color requirements for the casting (which are pretty trivial), and color requirements for the filtering you will have to do if you don't want to cripple yourself by not running good instants and sorceries.
The point is, the two are not equatable. This is considerably more constrictive in the sort of deck that it can even be moderately useful in.