Also I wish people would stop saying "b-b-b-but what if store owners open everything beforehand." If you even suspect your LGS of doing this I would hope that someone would have the sense to report it and/or find another LGS. Any sensible store owner would realize that a short term monetary gain of something like old cards or whatever exclusives pales in comparison to losing their DCI sanction as that would cause them to not be able to officially run any kind of events for a number of years.
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Honestly i have no idea what to make of this, the fact that only some stores will get this concerns me greatly and there's only going to be a limited number of these "Helavaults" shipped out to LGS's across the world, or one would hope.
But the fact that wizards is innovating a new form of a pre release style event with a new interactive feature is kinda neat
The basic problem with this is that if there's anything really amazing in these "Helvaults" many stores will preopen them and take the good stuff for themselves.
What kind of stores do you go to? The owners of the stores I frequent are much more honorable than that. They want to do things that encourage people to come, not piss them off.
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could someone link to the area that this comes from? I don't doubt that it's real, I just would like to know where announcements like this come from so I can view them myself.
This is something sent to STORES likely via Email... not something they publish on their website for the public.
Anyway, neat idea and I'm hoping it's something unique enough to give everyone an exciting experience. I was shocked at how many people actually cared about the Humans vs monsters thing at the last prerelease... I can only imagine this will be something people will want to sign up for just on principle. But yeah, if Avacyn is a card... I'm expecting she'll have a unique promo inside.
Hopefully my LGS participates in this. they didn't do the Humans vs. Monsters like I had hoped they would. There was some bounty thing, but not sure if it is a normal thing or one they created (since the guy that was the bounty has won the last four (or five now) prereleases.
Maybe this Helvault includes special mythic promos of Griselbrand & Avacyn, which the winners of the event can also get?
If they are special art foil promos, wizards can just make them not elligible for selling, which hopefully is less incentive for people to preemptively open them.
Stuff like a special Innistrad plane card, that depicts the plane had it all gone wrong, would also be very nice.
There's more of that stuff I can get behind.
This sounds pretty decent. Maybe some secondary prizes for other people too, alongside the participation promo.
Okay, so here's what you have to do. Get you and all your friends and the whole local Magic community together in one little room. We've sent your store owner a replica of a powerful artifact that's a containment cage for demons, filled with wonderful prizes and rewards, but- and this is critical- they CAN'T OPEN IT until everyone's in the room. Then, when the moment is right, you all get to open the box!
Sounds to me like the last stage of Wizards' soul-harvesting plan is ready for implementation, and they're striking while the game's participation is at an all-time high.
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Sounds to me like the last stage of Wizards' soul-harvesting plan is ready for implementation, and they're striking while the game's participation is at an all-time high.
LOL! I think they finally figured out a way to get the addictive ink in gas form... open the vault and...
Seriously though, I think if they build the hype and keep the secret long enough we could just see something cool here.
Might be something like a small group of cards that you can only get this way... however if that's the case and they end up being tournament playable... YIKES.
Personally I think it will just be a choose your side type of thing again with some added promos. Personally I'd love it if they gave you cards (depending on which side you choose) that you get to use in your sealed deck and then they pit the two sides against each other with the best couple of decks on each side getting an additional promo for a prize.
Might be something like a small group of cards that you can only get this way... however if that's the case and they end up being tournament playable... YIKES.
no way they would be this silly. that would provide an unfair advantage, given that there would be so few that not all who want them could have them.
I would guess that as the rounds go on, a new demon is released from the vault, and all who loss the next round become his slave.
Unlock the secrets of the Helvault: It contains modern/legacy staples?!?!?! Ya I doubt it.
It could have non-card product in it, like limited printed sleeves or deck boxes, or some kind of unique life counter. Or it will have full art/textless/alt art foil promo's you can only get from a helvault.
Maybe this helavault thing will work like a piñata? Everyone will take turns swinging at it, and when it breaks open, various demon promos will fall out alongside a single Avacyn.
Maybe this helavault thing will work like a piñata? Everyone will take turns swinging at it, and when it breaks open, various demon promos will fall out alongside a single Avacyn.
That would qualify as something as I'd remember for a long time.... and be hilarious :- )
Maybe this helavault thing will work like a piñata? Everyone will take turns swinging at it, and when it breaks open, various demon promos will fall out alongside a single Avacyn.
Would also make the price of a mint Avacyn tripple! "I GOT AN AVACYN FOR TRADE!!!! But it's got baseball bat marks on the corner..."
This sounds like a cool promotion. I have a bunch of new players at my LGS, and it's been really fun working with them, and when I shot them a message about this, some of them seem really excited. I don't know about you guys, but seeing new players so excited is really freaking cool. I see "Oh, great, well hopefully it's cool and not another gimmick." and they see "Cool shiz bro 8D" I love this darn game
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The first printing of Zen had a number of boxes that had ridiculously expensive out of print cards in them. Including Black Lotus, Moxen, Legends/Arabian Nights/Antiquities stuff, etc. Someone opened a Lotus at the prerelease. Everyone thought it was fake at first, then all these other reports started coming in about it.
Also I wish people would stop saying "b-b-b-but what if store owners open everything beforehand." If you even suspect your LGS of doing this I would hope that someone would have the sense to report it and/or find another LGS. Any sensible store owner would realize that a short term monetary gain of something like old cards or whatever exclusives pales in comparison to losing their DCI sanction as that would cause them to not be able to officially run any kind of events for a number of years.
Who's eating crow?
But the fact that wizards is innovating a new form of a pre release style event with a new interactive feature is kinda neat
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What kind of stores do you go to? The owners of the stores I frequent are much more honorable than that. They want to do things that encourage people to come, not piss them off.
This is something sent to STORES likely via Email... not something they publish on their website for the public.
Anyway, neat idea and I'm hoping it's something unique enough to give everyone an exciting experience. I was shocked at how many people actually cared about the Humans vs monsters thing at the last prerelease... I can only imagine this will be something people will want to sign up for just on principle. But yeah, if Avacyn is a card... I'm expecting she'll have a unique promo inside.
This sounds pretty decent. Maybe some secondary prizes for other people too, alongside the participation promo.
Sounds to me like the last stage of Wizards' soul-harvesting plan is ready for implementation, and they're striking while the game's participation is at an all-time high.
Thanks for your soul. Here, have some planeswalker points...
LOL! I think they finally figured out a way to get the addictive ink in gas form... open the vault and...
Seriously though, I think if they build the hype and keep the secret long enough we could just see something cool here.
Might be something like a small group of cards that you can only get this way... however if that's the case and they end up being tournament playable... YIKES.
no way they would be this silly. that would provide an unfair advantage, given that there would be so few that not all who want them could have them.
I would guess that as the rounds go on, a new demon is released from the vault, and all who loss the next round become his slave.
It's gonna be one of the stores that get's 2 of them. *I'm assuming that the Helvault's aren't resealable after broken open...*
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It could have non-card product in it, like limited printed sleeves or deck boxes, or some kind of unique life counter. Or it will have full art/textless/alt art foil promo's you can only get from a helvault.
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That would qualify as something as I'd remember for a long time.... and be hilarious :- )
Would also make the price of a mint Avacyn tripple! "I GOT AN AVACYN FOR TRADE!!!! But it's got baseball bat marks on the corner..."
What was in that promotion?
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The first printing of Zen had a number of boxes that had ridiculously expensive out of print cards in them. Including Black Lotus, Moxen, Legends/Arabian Nights/Antiquities stuff, etc. Someone opened a Lotus at the prerelease. Everyone thought it was fake at first, then all these other reports started coming in about it.
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Maybe this is how they are getting rid of all the extra M&Ms in the warehouse? WIN-WIN!!!!