Right. Faithless Looting is good. I've been saying that since it was spoiled. But it's not good in RDW.
The reason it's good or not has nothing to do with the relative benefits of card advantage and card selection. It has to do with three things: (1) whether the deck can make use of the card selection or not, and RDW mostly can't; (2) whether the deck loses or gains card advantage by playing Faithless Looting, and RDW loses it; and (3) whether the deck can afford to spend time playing Faithless Looting, and RDW mostly can't. It basically comes out on the wrong side of all three measures.
this card is completely broken! It should be draw 2 cards, discard 1 at random, and then discard one of your choice (not necessarily in that order either). Seems like a continuation of the innistrad theme, so it is probably in the next set. It's about time blue doesn't have EVERY SINGLE BROKEN ABILITY such as card draw, looting, and counters (the absolute best abilities in magic). Wizards are as dumb as bricks for taking this long to realize you shouldn't have all of those abilities in one color.
Unless there are serious, and I mean SERIOUS, graveyard benefits in mono-red, I wouldn't expect to see this in top red decks. Though, to be fair, I could see some RDW variants running it with some amount of success. But really this card is slanted towards combo, maybe some control and Vengevine/graveyard decks.
It's an instant speed 5/5 trampler for 4. Wtf do you people want seriously? It has applications in populate/ above the curve beats decks, or in Bant control/ flash. I seriously think anyone mad at this card for any reason other than losing an attacker to instant speed wurm, should go home and make their own awesome card game and leave the rest of us alone.
I wanna play it as a 3 of in my U/R Burning Vengeance deck, it's no longer grixis because this card can get rid of the black splash for Forbidden Alchemy. I love this card early though against Control because you can pitch any sweepers that might not be good against control, but will give you advantage against aggro when you need a sweeper.
I wanna play it as a 3 of in my U/R Burning Vengeance deck, it's no longer grixis because this card can get rid of the black splash for Forbidden Alchemy. I love this card early though against Control because you can pitch any sweepers that might not be good against control, but will give you advantage against aggro when you need a sweeper.
I think I'd rather play Grixis and use its card selection and manabase than just do U/R
I'm gonna need to see some more Dark Ascension spoilers sometime soon. This single Faithless Looting card isn't cutting it anymore. Where are my new Magic card leaks?!
Seems like a continuation of the innistrad theme, so it is probably in the next set.
Well, a) it's got the Dark Ascension tag, meaning that it's in the next set, and B) Wizards said it was in Dark Ascension, meaning that it's in the next set. There's really no "probably" about it.
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Unless there are serious, and I mean SERIOUS, graveyard benefits in mono-red, I wouldn't expect to see this in top red decks. Though, to be fair, I could see some RDW variants running it with some amount of success. But really this card is slanted towards combo, maybe some control and Vengevine/graveyard decks.
Red decks? What are you talking about? Faithless looting is a blue card, just like Tarmogoyf...
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This does NOT go in red deck wins. If you're playing red control (because you're a rebel) then sure. Go ahead. This is your card.
But will this help RDW?
HELL no.
If you need card draw in RDW, you're either horribly unlucky, you have too many lands in your deck, or your curve is WAY off.
Ideally, ramp decks shouldn't need this either.
I'm not sure if I agree with this. I'm still on the fence.
On one hand I feel like RDW would rather just draw a Galv Blast and pay R to cast it, rather than pay R and be at -1 cards in hand just to trade those two extra mountains for...probably another mountain and a turn 5 Stromkirk Noble
On the other hand, the fact that it has flashback gives you something to do with excess mana and since gas and consistency is RDWs biggest problem, this card may actually help out.
Then again if DKA gives Red enough goodies to play with, there probably won't be any space for FL. It's pretty cramped as it is.
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So this is the promo insert? I'm fine with it. Good enough for casual, but not good enough that everyone will want one and make it a $50 bill. Also seems too close to Desperate Ravings for my liking. (I know it isn't at random, but still)
well seeing as how there seems to be know way to tell if this is even in the next set i find it kinda odd, that salvation made the entire list based on a card that may not even be in there.
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On one hand I feel like RDW would rather just draw a Galv Blast and pay R to cast it, rather than pay R and be at -1 cards in hand just to trade those two extra mountains for...probably another mountain and a turn 5 Stromkirk Noble...
Seriously, this is your argument?
You're arguing that it's a better chance of drawing that Galvanic Blast without any help from card draw. Also, you're not a very good deckbuilder if you replace Galvanic Blast with Faithless Looting.
I see your other point and I agree with it, the fact that this card has Flashback makes it definitely one of the most powerful hand sculptors to date.
If you've ever played with Careful Study then you know what I'm talking about?
well seeing as how there seems to be know way to tell if this is even in the next set i find it kinda odd, that salvation made the entire list based on a card that may not even be in there.
Faithless Looting has been confirmed as a card coming out in Dark Ascension.
Reprints the one card that people point to when saying that art objectifies women.
Well done Wizards.
Liliana does not objectify women in any way at all. We have gotten to a point in our society that every single picture of a women must be objectifying a women in some negative way......blah blah blah.. That is not the case. (((Sarcasm)))Picture of a girl drinking a milk shake, must be sex related and putting women down, picture of girl sitting on a beach, picture of a girl driving a car, picture of a girl on the moon at a new space station.)))
You have a picture of an attractive strong power women who girls dress up as for anime conventions. What more do you want? The picture is fine, happy to see a reprint. Sick of of seeing people claim that everything in existence must be putting women down. Then all I have to do is replace the word "women" with anything else to get the same mentality; fish, cats, arabs, blacks, jews, men, environment, whites, chinese, old people, etc. It doesn't matter what word I put in. Stop sucking life out of everything man. That artwork of her is awesome. Stop putting stuff down man. Just stop. If the picture was really as negative as you claim she would totally nude, in a kitchen, making sandwiches and giving blow jobs. Her abilities would be horrible as well. +1 do nothing -2 do nothing -6 do nothing. Instead liliana of the veil is an amazing planeswalker comparable to jace, the mind sculpter with great art to appreciate.
My suggestion listen to some comedy radio for a while, pandora is free, youtube is free there is something out there for you. ***** go make fun of somebody. The whole world is so serious and campaigning for some cause, or someones rights, everything is a hate crime, racist, sexist. blah blah blah.
"O no mcdonalds must be slandering a hate crime against skinny people every time they make a big mac." hahaha jeeze You're just someone perpetuating another groups negative perspective that they've made you believe is correct. Look at the picture for a hour and tell me what's wrong with it? I don't see anything.
I have heard vague rumors of a moustache-dispensing vending machine in a distant laundromat, across the street from a tattoo parlor. However, this information is shaky, and time is of the essence.
is that a rhetorical question or do you really expect everyone to read all 32 pages of the thread cover to cover?
I didn't know, I apologize. I peaked at the first page and posted. as is a acceptable costume at many a forum.
Didn't peak carefully enough, I see. It was written on the first post that it was confirmed (Bolded and Hyperlinked). Normally, I'd understand...if say, the confirmation was like, 15 pages in, but come on man. It was all there in the first post.
Reprints the one card that people point to when saying that art objectifies women.
Well done Wizards.
Liliana does not objectify women in any way at all. We have gotten to a point in our society that every single picture of a women must be objectifying a women in some negative way......blah blah blah.. That is not the case. (((Sarcasm)))Picture of a girl drinking a milk shake, must be sex related and putting women down, picture of girl sitting on a beach, picture of a girl driving a car, picture of a girl on the moon at a new space station.)))
You have a picture of an attractive strong power women who girls dress up as for anime conventions. What more do you want? The picture is fine, happy to see a reprint. Sick of of seeing people claim that everything in existence must be putting women down. Then all I have to do is replace the word "women" with anything else to get the same mentality; fish, cats, arabs, blacks, jews, men, environment, whites, chinese, old people, etc. It doesn't matter what word I put in. Stop sucking life out of everything man. That artwork of her is awesome. Stop putting stuff down man. Just stop. If the picture was really as negative as you claim she would totally nude, in a kitchen, making sandwiches and giving blow jobs. Her abilities would be horrible as well. +1 do nothing -2 do nothing -6 do nothing. Instead liliana of the veil is an amazing planeswalker comparable to jace, the mind sculpter with great art to appreciate.
My suggestion listen to some comedy radio for a while, pandora is free, youtube is free there is something out there for you. ***** go make fun of somebody. The whole world is so serious and campaigning for some cause, or someones rights, everything is a hate crime, racist, sexist. blah blah blah.
"O no mcdonalds must be slandering a hate crime against skinny people every time they make a big mac." hahaha jeeze You're just someone perpetuating another groups negative perspective that they've made you believe is correct. Look at the picture for a hour and tell me what's wrong with it? I don't see anything.
I have heard vague rumors of a moustache-dispensing vending machine in a distant laundromat, across the street from a tattoo parlor. However, this information is shaky, and time is of the essence.
That is sweet. Add blue for Snapcaster Mage, some card selection and Gifts Ungiven and you've got a rather sick reanimator deck. Easily disrupted? Eh, maybe. But with Zoo, Affinity and creature removal decks being the main contenders at the moment it just might work! Through the Breach also works here.
This card is a real enabler and obviously competitive. But I didn't post just for the obvious... Cred to Kopinski for such great promo art which really capture the feel of a red spell with blue implications. Blue is seeking knowledge to be retained while red is all 'hat do I need now? Let's get to the point!' it's a bit of a fine line but works really well here. This was a good first card to have spoiled.
The reason it's good or not has nothing to do with the relative benefits of card advantage and card selection. It has to do with three things: (1) whether the deck can make use of the card selection or not, and RDW mostly can't; (2) whether the deck loses or gains card advantage by playing Faithless Looting, and RDW loses it; and (3) whether the deck can afford to spend time playing Faithless Looting, and RDW mostly can't. It basically comes out on the wrong side of all three measures.
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Kuldotha Phoenix saw a ton of love in block constructed but nothing so far in new type 2...
I think I'd rather play Grixis and use its card selection and manabase than just do U/R
Well, a) it's got the Dark Ascension tag, meaning that it's in the next set, and B) Wizards said it was in Dark Ascension, meaning that it's in the next set. There's really no "probably" about it.
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Then I was like, "Whoa. Red card draw. :("
This does NOT go in red deck wins. If you're playing red control (because you're a rebel) then sure. Go ahead. This is your card.
But will this help RDW?
HELL no.
If you need card draw in RDW, you're either horribly unlucky, you have too many lands in your deck, or your curve is WAY off.
Ideally, ramp decks shouldn't need this either.
Red decks? What are you talking about? Faithless looting is a blue card, just like Tarmogoyf...
I'm not sure if I agree with this. I'm still on the fence.
On one hand I feel like RDW would rather just draw a Galv Blast and pay R to cast it, rather than pay R and be at -1 cards in hand just to trade those two extra mountains for...probably another mountain and a turn 5 Stromkirk Noble
On the other hand, the fact that it has flashback gives you something to do with excess mana and since gas and consistency is RDWs biggest problem, this card may actually help out.
Then again if DKA gives Red enough goodies to play with, there probably won't be any space for FL. It's pretty cramped as it is.
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well seeing as how there seems to be know way to tell if this is even in the next set i find it kinda odd, that salvation made the entire list based on a card that may not even be in there.
Seriously, this is your argument?
You're arguing that it's a better chance of drawing that Galvanic Blast without any help from card draw. Also, you're not a very good deckbuilder if you replace Galvanic Blast with Faithless Looting.
I see your other point and I agree with it, the fact that this card has Flashback makes it definitely one of the most powerful hand sculptors to date.
If you've ever played with Careful Study then you know what I'm talking about?
Faithless Looting has been confirmed as a card coming out in Dark Ascension.
is that a rhetorical question or do you really expect everyone to read all 32 pages of the thread cover to cover?
I didn't know, I apologize. I peaked at the first page and posted. as is a acceptable costume at many a forum.
Didn't peak carefully enough, I see. It was written on the first post that it was confirmed (Bolded and Hyperlinked). Normally, I'd understand...if say, the confirmation was like, 15 pages in, but come on man. It was all there in the first post.
Edit: But it's cool dude. No hard feelings.
edit: nevermind
That is sweet. Add blue for Snapcaster Mage, some card selection and Gifts Ungiven and you've got a rather sick reanimator deck. Easily disrupted? Eh, maybe. But with Zoo, Affinity and creature removal decks being the main contenders at the moment it just might work! Through the Breach also works here.