I'm disappointed in the card Make a Wish. With a name like that, I'd expect something FAR more epic in scale and effect.
As for Past in Flames...? Now THAT'S a mythic rare. I can't wait to see the entire finished card. It's in my Top "Johnny-licious" Ten cards of INN fo' sho'!
For all of the people saying that the flashback is worse than Yawgmoth's rules on the new mythic seem to not understand that the fact that only instants and sorceries are affected there is no purpose for this not to be flashback as both will be exiled anyway.
If anything flashback is better then Yawgomth's wording since new cards that enter the graveyard are not exiled and can get two uses. The only thing keeping this card off the vintage restricted list is that you cant recur artifacts. +1 CMC for Yawgmth's minus artifacts is indeed powefull. Praetor's Counsel is closer to what a none broken mana cost should be for the effect which is 8 CMC.
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Nothing to see here just limited filler and some jank rares. I dont like past in flames, cost too damn much, need to be three do be standard worthy. But i suppose in modern with all the red ritual effects one could create something nice. I dont know
Past in Flames is awesome. What a great mythic. Anyone else think Geistflame was seriously nerf'd for some reason. I mean, yeah Firebolt is strong but still. IDK Firebolt was a common too so the only major difference is instant speed, and even with the reduction in Powerlevel this seems way too weak.
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Past in Flames is a slightly weaker Yawgmoth's Will. I wonder how long until it is broken in Modern and banned in eternal.
Will was broken because of the cards that were legal alongside it. You could have a graveyard full of dark rituals, broken tutors, the Urza's block untap spells, Tolarian Academy, etc. There might be some shenanigans with storm, but TGS is good enough in modern without it. I could see somebody using Past in Flames to multiply storm count, which could be cute in a Tendrils Storm deck. Not all that broken in modern, which lacks the tools to break it. Legacy might be different.
Past in Flames is awesome. What a great mythic. Anyone else think Geistflame was seriously nerf'd for some reason. I mean, yeah Firebolt is strong but still. IDK Firebolt was a common too so the only major difference is instant speed, and even with the reduction in Powerlevel this seems way too weak.
They had Geistflame in the past--and it was better. It was lava dart.
Past of Flame is awesome good. In Philly Pro-tour, there were at the very least 4 decks in the top 16 (including Jon Finkel cheap awesome deck), and 5 in top 32 that would use it without a doubt. Talking about "playable cards"
Saying it's not good becouse it's not Yawgmoth's Will is like if WotC print a "Grey Lotus" that cost 1 and gives 2 of any color and people complaint becouse Black Lotus is better.
There's a difference between "not sure if this is playable in any format" and "this belongs in every vintage deck," ie the difference between Flame and Yawg.
Past in Flames may be junk in Standard, but in Vintage and Legacy it's broken no matter how I slice it. The people who complain about it being worse than Will don't know that it's like comparing the power between Ancestral Recall and Windfall.
Past in Flames is garbage. It isn't even remotely comparable to Yawgwin.
Well, it is....sort of. Obviously, not being able to get artifacts is huge for Legacy/Vintage, but this could very well see a splash in Modern where most of the Storm decks simply use rituals.
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Wow. Mulch is cool, I hope the new art is good. Of course if I use it ill use the old ones anyway..
And a red will huh? Man, I hope I don't end up eating my words but I don't think wizrds would be stupid enough to print this if it were going to break something in a detrimentally awful awful way
(and yea I have heard they don't test in legacy too. Still, they gotta at least consider it..)
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The true mind can weather all the lies and illusions without being lost. The true heart can tough the poison of hatred without being harmed. Since beginning-less time, darkness thrives in the void but always yields to purifying light.
I invision a future where one is not mighty when he can silence a crowd with brutality,
but when he leaves them speechless with wisdom.
Past of Flame is not as good as Yawgmoth's Will, for sure. It's a watered down version. However, being a watered down demonic tutor do not mean vampiric tutor is a bad card, and being worse than ancestral recall does not make brainstorm a junk card either.
This is a lot more like Diabolic Tutor than it is like Vampiric Tutor. It does a lot less AND costs more. Critically, it also costs R, which puts a strain on the mana base required to cast it as well.
Elder of Laurels + Devoted Druid with at least 3 other creatures in play. Man that's gonna annoy the crap out of my friends in EDH before long lol. Probably not worth attempting in modern or anything but it's one more great casual infinite mana combo and I'm gonna wreck people so hard with it.
Past in Flames scares the s*** out of me, as an Eternal player. Reads very close to Yawgmoth's Will in a deck like ANT, and we all know how fair that card is. Also since the Modern-legal rituals are all red, it could fit right in there too. Scary stuff.
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Play (noun): Battlefield
Play (verb): Cast/Play
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Mulch also makes the switch to ponder over preordain a little easier to handle. Get the sweet card I need plus some lands i left on top or get my sweet card and put the chaff into the graveyard.
Past in Flames seems like it can be busted by a U/R Storm or Pyromancer Ascension deck in Modern quite easily.
No. It's really not that good at all. First, it costs way too much mana to be used quickly (that deck's greatest strength). Second, it affects only instants OR sorceries, which halves its usefulness. Third, it's is horrible horrible horrible in multiples. This is not the Yawgmoth's Will people think it is. It's much more like Bosium Strip.
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is janky but works well for overkill:
have a bunch of burn and Past in Flames in graveyard, use Chandra Ablaze ultimate. Put past in flames on the stack first, then the other spells. All burn resolves, returns to grave, past in flames lets you play them again that turn. Excessive? yeah, but it's awesome.
As for Past in Flames...? Now THAT'S a mythic rare. I can't wait to see the entire finished card. It's in my Top "Johnny-licious" Ten cards of INN fo' sho'!
If anything flashback is better then Yawgomth's wording since new cards that enter the graveyard are not exiled and can get two uses. The only thing keeping this card off the vintage restricted list is that you cant recur artifacts. +1 CMC for Yawgmth's minus artifacts is indeed powefull. Praetor's Counsel is closer to what a none broken mana cost should be for the effect which is 8 CMC.
Make a wish is bad..
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Will was broken because of the cards that were legal alongside it. You could have a graveyard full of dark rituals, broken tutors, the Urza's block untap spells, Tolarian Academy, etc. There might be some shenanigans with storm, but TGS is good enough in modern without it. I could see somebody using Past in Flames to multiply storm count, which could be cute in a Tendrils Storm deck. Not all that broken in modern, which lacks the tools to break it. Legacy might be different.
They had Geistflame in the past--and it was better. It was lava dart.
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There's a difference between "not sure if this is playable in any format" and "this belongs in every vintage deck," ie the difference between Flame and Yawg.
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Well, it is....sort of. Obviously, not being able to get artifacts is huge for Legacy/Vintage, but this could very well see a splash in Modern where most of the Storm decks simply use rituals.
O rly now? and can that be used in modern to kill it even more? Past will put PA combo in an even more destructive position.
And a red will huh? Man, I hope I don't end up eating my words but I don't think wizrds would be stupid enough to print this if it were going to break something in a detrimentally awful awful way
(and yea I have heard they don't test in legacy too. Still, they gotta at least consider it..)
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Love Mulch, I remember playing that bad card a lot. Maybe it's not bad for this set though...
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Make a wish has the name because you have to wish you get the right card. for a random effect, it shouldn't cost more than 3.
Mulch is win.
it gets dark rit, it also gets ancestral and brainstorm and demonic tutor and duress and swords to plowshares and wheel of fortune etc, etc
I think it will definitely see play, but I don't think it will be restricted because it doesn't interact with artifacts and is in a bad color
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Interesting rendition of Lava Dart. I can't decide if I prefer the ping-for-2 (but at sorcery) Firebolt or this.
Play (verb): Cast/Play
RFG: Exile
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No. It's really not that good at all. First, it costs way too much mana to be used quickly (that deck's greatest strength). Second, it affects only instants OR sorceries, which halves its usefulness. Third, it's is horrible horrible horrible in multiples. This is not the Yawgmoth's Will people think it is. It's much more like Bosium Strip.
have a bunch of burn and Past in Flames in graveyard, use Chandra Ablaze ultimate. Put past in flames on the stack first, then the other spells. All burn resolves, returns to grave, past in flames lets you play them again that turn. Excessive? yeah, but it's awesome.
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