I wish my 4/4s with haste and first strike that acted as Goblin Warchiefs were better and didn't die to instants and overshadowed all other 4 drops in the format. And that they had evasion too, and some way to dodge wrath effects.
I love how so many people are going nuts thinking some random schmuck with Eddie Munster hair is Baron Sengir, but show people Liliana Vess with a change of clothes, and they deny it's her like OJ denied killing Nicole.
While I do concede that there are many similiarities with Baron Sengir and the person on the floor next to the throne, I do not think it is Baron Sengir. There are few colours in it, and as the attached picture clearly shows that Sengir wears very bright clothing. The hair does look similiar, but if you look closer, you will find that the smoking dead guy has a widow's peak, whereas Sengir has a single line of hair. Another visual cue that it isn't Sengir is the pair of bodies in the niches to the left and right of Liliana. Beyond visual evidence, there is logic as well. Wizards knows old school Magic players loved the Baron. Why would their first glance of an old friend be of him being killed by a planeswalker?
Also, the shmuck on the ground in the Vess art doesn't have the mini soul patch like the Baron has. And I definitely agree they wouldn't build up Baron Sengire over the last few sets (with quotes in M11) just to have him "killed off camera" like a chump.
Liliana isn't in the core set = Liliana is in the next block. Makes sense and I'd agree with that.
Garruk being in the core set = Garruk in the next block. Makes absolutely no sense.
How can someone believe the first and still think Garruk is in the block as well? Either being in the core set previous to a block doesn't matter (i.e. Chandra, Jace, or Garruk in this example) or it does matter.
Note, I'm not actually agreeing/disagreeing that either will be in the next block, but this line of reasoning is horribly flawed.
Lol i know what u mean the logic is flawed
Thing is garruk hasn;t been in a non core set yet if lillian appears in innistad it would mean every other core planeswalker has appeared in a non core set.
Also given his close relationship it would make sense if he was an opposing force to lilliana in the set. Of course i am thumb sucking all of this but for me i cant help get the feeling he will show up
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Thing is garruk hasn;t been in a non core set yet if lillian appears in innistad it would mean every other core planeswalker has appeared in a non core set.
Also given his close relationship it would make sense if he was an opposing force to lilliana in the set. Of course i am thumb sucking all of this but for me i cant help get the feeling he will show up
Jace vs. Chandra. The first planeswalker duel deck.
Garruk vs. Liliana. The second planeswalker duel deck.
It is not completely unlikely that Garruk and Liliana will both appear in this block with different abilities. I'm keeping my fingers crossed for G/B Garruk.
Garruk following Lilliana to Innistrad is a given, and the argument for not reprinting Lilliana in M12 because she is going to be featured in the October set following up right after is pretty solid logic. What I don't understand is why people think the reason the latter is a logical fallacy is because they're reprinting Garruk in M12. Do people conveniently forget that there's 2 other sets to a block for Garruk to make his appearance?
It is not completely unlikely that Garruk and Liliana will both appear in this block with different abilities. I'm keeping my fingers crossed for G/B Garruk.
The possibility isn't that far off.
But Elspeth and Tezz were both in Scars block, a duel deck that came out long after Garruk/Liliana.
Garruk following Lilliana to Innistrad is a given, and the argument for not reprinting Lilliana in M12 because she is going to be featured in the October set following up right after is pretty solid logic. What I don't understand is why people think the reason the latter is a logical fallacy is because they're reprinting Garruk in M12. Do people conveniently forget that there's 2 other sets to a block for Garruk to make his appearance?
Because if they didn't want to have two Lilianas in the same standard environment, why would they randomly be okay with two Garruks? Just because shes on the cover here doesn't mean she'll be printed in Innistrad.
you can reprint 3 or less of a cycle, or you can print 5 of a cycle. 4 of a cycle is right out.
Its the whole reason the Green Beacon got cut from Tenth edition. They knew they didn't want the Blue Beacon, so one of the others had to be cut, and conveniently they also didn't want to make Snake tokens.
So if one of the 5 is going to get the cut, at least one more is going down with it. Ajani & Liliana were both good targets to replace as they are below the curve in power. Garruk didn't get cut because he is good. He has consistently been the most powerful of the 5. (I'm quite surprised that Chandra didn't go with them).
Because if they didn't want to have two Lilianas in the same standard environment, why would they randomly be okay with two Garruks? Just because shes on the cover here doesn't mean she'll be printed in Innistrad.
So ultimatly, here not being printed in M12 has nothing to do with Shake. Its simply making a higher quality cycle of planeswalkers for M12
What I would Like to see is;
Reprint - Gideon
Reprint - Jace 1.0
NEW - Sorrin
NEW - Chandra (brand new 3.0)
Reprint - Garruk
2 reprints of Original Coreset Planeswalkers
1 New version of Original Coreset Planeswalkers
1 Reprint of a non-coreset
1 New Version of a Non-coreset
It would be knew, exciting, and help drive sales with out having to do a titan style cycle of 5 format mythics.
Leaving things to guessing, is just something they love to do to us. So I do fully expect NEW liliana Set 1, and new Garruk set 2 or 3. (that is if the story line takes place after she gets the Vale, which it looks like she is holding).
Is that Baron? I like how you guys are so caught up on his hair style or cloths. What after thousands of years he isn't allowed a Make Over?
I don't know if its him, but he is not forever stuck in the same outfit for eternity.
If the block is going to have a horror/gothic theme, it would be a shame for them to not take advantage of the homelands plane which already has those themes built up.
Is the theme going to be horror/gothic, who knows, one art of Liliana hanging out in a place she would feel at home does not mean the whole plane is the same way.
So if one of the 5 is going to get the cut, at least one more is going down with it. Ajani & Liliana were both good targets to replace as they are below the curve in power. Garruk didn't get cut because he is good. He has consistently been the most powerful of the 5. (I'm quite surprised that Chandra didn't go with them).
Chandra would have been a much better pick than Ajani.
So ultimatly, here not being printed in M12 has nothing to do with Shake. Its simply making a higher quality cycle of planeswalkers for M12
What I would Like to see is;
Reprint - Gideon
Reprint - Jace 1.0
NEW - Sorrin
NEW - Chandra (brand new 3.0)
Reprint - Garruk
So is there any word out there where Innistad came from? Other then Wizards announcing it as the next block. Any hints/references from other cards anywhere?
Well I guess with Scars we didn't learn much til tests of metal which came out after the set.... Just would like to know something more solid.
So is there any word out there where Innistad came from? Other then Wizards announcing it as the next block. Any hints/references from other cards anywhere?
Well I guess with Scars we didn't learn much til tests of metal which came out after the set.... Just would like to know something more solid.
It does not come out until September.
YOu have "Action", and M12 coming before hand and each with its own marketing.
Do not honestly expect to find out much more about this set until mid summer.
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Dude, the gloves didn't fit. They HAD to acquit.
Also, the shmuck on the ground in the Vess art doesn't have the mini soul patch like the Baron has. And I definitely agree they wouldn't build up Baron Sengire over the last few sets (with quotes in M11) just to have him "killed off camera" like a chump.
Lol i know what u mean the logic is flawed
Thing is garruk hasn;t been in a non core set yet if lillian appears in innistad it would mean every other core planeswalker has appeared in a non core set.
Also given his close relationship it would make sense if he was an opposing force to lilliana in the set. Of course i am thumb sucking all of this but for me i cant help get the feeling he will show up
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Jace vs. Chandra. The first planeswalker duel deck.
Garruk vs. Liliana. The second planeswalker duel deck.
Both Jace AND Chandra reappeared in the Zendikar block. Jace, the Mind Sculptor and Chandra Ablaze.
It is not completely unlikely that Garruk and Liliana will both appear in this block with different abilities. I'm keeping my fingers crossed for G/B Garruk.
The possibility isn't that far off.
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Looks like it, and he got vendettaed good... Now who is that random woman on the chair that we've never seen before?
But Elspeth and Tezz were both in Scars block, a duel deck that came out long after Garruk/Liliana.
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Because if they didn't want to have two Lilianas in the same standard environment, why would they randomly be okay with two Garruks? Just because shes on the cover here doesn't mean she'll be printed in Innistrad.
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Its the whole reason the Green Beacon got cut from Tenth edition. They knew they didn't want the Blue Beacon, so one of the others had to be cut, and conveniently they also didn't want to make Snake tokens.
So if one of the 5 is going to get the cut, at least one more is going down with it. Ajani & Liliana were both good targets to replace as they are below the curve in power. Garruk didn't get cut because he is good. He has consistently been the most powerful of the 5. (I'm quite surprised that Chandra didn't go with them).
So ultimatly, here not being printed in M12 has nothing to do with Shake. Its simply making a higher quality cycle of planeswalkers for M12
What I would Like to see is;
Reprint - Gideon
Reprint - Jace 1.0
NEW - Sorrin
NEW - Chandra (brand new 3.0)
Reprint - Garruk
2 reprints of Original Coreset Planeswalkers
1 New version of Original Coreset Planeswalkers
1 Reprint of a non-coreset
1 New Version of a Non-coreset
It would be knew, exciting, and help drive sales with out having to do a titan style cycle of 5 format mythics.
Leaving things to guessing, is just something they love to do to us. So I do fully expect NEW liliana Set 1, and new Garruk set 2 or 3. (that is if the story line takes place after she gets the Vale, which it looks like she is holding).
Is that Baron? I like how you guys are so caught up on his hair style or cloths. What after thousands of years he isn't allowed a Make Over?
I don't know if its him, but he is not forever stuck in the same outfit for eternity.
If the block is going to have a horror/gothic theme, it would be a shame for them to not take advantage of the homelands plane which already has those themes built up.
Is the theme going to be horror/gothic, who knows, one art of Liliana hanging out in a place she would feel at home does not mean the whole plane is the same way.
Chandra would have been a much better pick than Ajani.
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That was my second thought upon seeing the picture, too!
Not sure, but I've seen her in an online comic or something.
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Well I guess with Scars we didn't learn much til tests of metal which came out after the set.... Just would like to know something more solid.
It does not come out until September.
YOu have "Action", and M12 coming before hand and each with its own marketing.
Do not honestly expect to find out much more about this set until mid summer.
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