Reading the replies in this thread... Am I the only combo player who loves this card? I play U/R Jhoira (soon to be U/R/G Animar), and I'd LOVE to have the ability to shut down all the faster combo decks, like Azami and Zur.
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The hateful hateful flavor text really goes well with all the hateful hatefulness in this thread from people hating on this card and people hating on combo decks, which they will use this card to hate on.
Reading the replies in this thread... Am I the only combo player who loves this card? I play U/R Jhoira (soon to be U/R/G Animar), and I'd LOVE to have the ability to shut down all the faster combo decks, like Azami and Zur.
Same, this is def going in my Jhoira deck. Also my 5 color control deck.
Remember that red has Pyretic Ritual. Not THAT much help on turn two, unless you've got two in your hand (the Mystic is a concern more in Eternals, I'm guessing?), but turn three is a different story.
I can't believe there is only one comment so far on the flavor text, it made me snort hot coffee out my nose at my work computer.
Morale of the story: Red mages can burn you even when your not playing magic.
The grief this card will cause wont last long.
The green mage will rage and not being able to cast mana accel for example, rampart growth, farseek, cultivate, kodama's reach etc. Also not been able to creature tutor, worldy tutor, chord of calling, green sun's zenith.
They are the player most equiped to enchantment hate and they will do it as it makes so many green cards dead.
Edit: Make that two comments on flavor before mine
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This guy, would either eat up several turns worth of mana to get a slow permanent that relies on your already have some board presence (after wasting said mana), or dies without generating any advantage.
Omen Machine essentially "puts everyone into top deck mode" So not only can they not tutor, they can't draw extra cards and they don't get to use non-basic lands. Almost like red is saying... well i can't cheat at this game you can't either lol. I would be tempted to put this into a bassandra deck (to further shut down combat tricks) and give me the ability to try and tutor for these peices specifically but red akroma really is a sexy card that puts a nice sized middle finger to blue players
Omen Machine essentially "puts everyone into top deck mode" So not only can they not tutor, they can't draw extra cards and they don't get to use non-basic lands. Almost like red is saying... well i can't cheat at this game you can't either lol. I would be tempted to put this into a bassandra deck (to further shut down combat tricks) and give me the ability to try and tutor for these peices specifically but red akroma really is a sexy card that puts a nice sized middle finger to blue players
I think you need to re-read Omen Machine as it doesn't do the things you seem to think it does.
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This guy, would either eat up several turns worth of mana to get a slow permanent that relies on your already have some board presence (after wasting said mana), or dies without generating any advantage.
Not only does it have awesome artwork, but the card itself rocks. This should be in every vintage/legacy/EDH/casual sideboard for that friend who likes his infinite turn combo...
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I hope this is in Political Puppets as that's the deck I ordered. This is my favorite card from the previews so far (although I'm in love with Avatar of Slaughter due to its art. I hope that's in the deck as well).
This seems more like a SB card to me, which there aren't any. I almost feel like it should cost less than 4, I guess it does not matter since Time Warp costs 5....
.. Then again, Counterspell costs UU.
this card sucks.
(because I'm a U/B combo player, and this completely hoses my strategy)
Yeah, me too. But, I don't think anyone would run it unless stuff like this was warping their local meta. Even then, its just one card they have to get out.
Lol sonicqaz, I can't help but feel that you don't like blue do you?
On topic: Even though the card is pretty annoying, the flavor text is just sick.
I actually play blue more than most colors in all the other formats, but in EDH its usually masturbatory.
100% agree about the flavor text. Still trying to fix the flavor of the card and flavor text to an enchantment though......
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This guy, would either eat up several turns worth of mana to get a slow permanent that relies on your already have some board presence (after wasting said mana), or dies without generating any advantage.
*Joins the group of Zur players scratching their heads*
I seriously hate this card already. I'm just not too worried because like a lot of people are saying, it's not just us blue players that care about searching our decks. In particular, getting your fetches hosed by this is going to make it/ the player that cast it a target.
Also, the guy I know who plays Niv Mizzet ... *face palm*
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But really this hurts Black more.
Not really. Blue hates this the most as they tutor a lot, take extra turns and some are U/B/X =\
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Perfect middle finger for heavy tutor decks or anyone who likes playing cards to get themselves extra turns.
Flavorful with Browbeat too.
Really some A+ design here.
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Um... omen machine says players can't draw cards... thats exactly what i think it does... i'm lost
Omen Machine does not say that. It says the skip their draw step, but they'll still draw off of a Compulsive Research
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This guy, would either eat up several turns worth of mana to get a slow permanent that relies on your already have some board presence (after wasting said mana), or dies without generating any advantage.
*Joins the group of Zur players scratching their heads*
I seriously hate this card already. I'm just not too worried because like a lot of people are saying, it's not just us blue players that care about searching our decks. In particular, getting your fetches hosed by this is going to make it/ the player that cast it a target.
Also, the guy I know who plays Niv Mizzet ... *face palm*
Not really. Blue hates this the most as they tutor a lot, take extra turns and some are U/B/X =\
Except blue can counter it, bounce it, heck, they could try and mill it if they wanted to. Black only has things like Sadistic Sacrament to stop this. Once this gets played, black will have a very difficult time getting rid of it, which is bad because it shuts down one of blacks most powerful abilities.
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If you having burn problems I feel bad for you son. I got 99 problems but a bolt ain't one.
But I guess that the situation is a lock down in red. Can't tutor for answers for Akroma, nonbasics locked out from Moon effect, and Omen Machine can't let them topdeck card draw.
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Hate hate hate!
Same, this is def going in my Jhoira deck. Also my 5 color control deck.
I assume you mean Blood Moon, but I fail to see the interaction with Omen Machine.
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Morale of the story: Red mages can burn you even when your not playing magic.
The grief this card will cause wont last long.
The green mage will rage and not being able to cast mana accel for example, rampart growth, farseek, cultivate, kodama's reach etc. Also not been able to creature tutor, worldy tutor, chord of calling, green sun's zenith.
They are the player most equiped to enchantment hate and they will do it as it makes so many green cards dead.
Edit: Make that two comments on flavor before mine
Thats actually the deck I already play, except I play Blood Moon
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OOOO!!!That is pretty sweet combo!
I really like this card. definitely puts a target on you from Blue players...
Omen Machine essentially "puts everyone into top deck mode" So not only can they not tutor, they can't draw extra cards and they don't get to use non-basic lands. Almost like red is saying... well i can't cheat at this game you can't either lol. I would be tempted to put this into a bassandra deck (to further shut down combat tricks) and give me the ability to try and tutor for these peices specifically but red akroma really is a sexy card that puts a nice sized middle finger to blue players
I think you need to re-read Omen Machine as it doesn't do the things you seem to think it does.
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On topic: Even though the card is pretty annoying, the flavor text is just sick.
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Ha! That's a good one.
.. Then again, Counterspell costs UU.
Yeah, me too. But, I don't think anyone would run it unless stuff like this was warping their local meta. Even then, its just one card they have to get out.
I actually play blue more than most colors in all the other formats, but in EDH its usually masturbatory.
100% agree about the flavor text. Still trying to fix the flavor of the card and flavor text to an enchantment though......
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I seriously hate this card already. I'm just not too worried because like a lot of people are saying, it's not just us blue players that care about searching our decks. In particular, getting your fetches hosed by this is going to make it/ the player that cast it a target.
Also, the guy I know who plays Niv Mizzet ... *face palm*
Not really. Blue hates this the most as they tutor a lot, take extra turns and some are U/B/X =\
Flavorful with Browbeat too.
Really some A+ design here.
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It is. It's called Torpor Orb
Omen Machine does not say that. It says the skip their draw step, but they'll still draw off of a Compulsive Research
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Except blue can counter it, bounce it, heck, they could try and mill it if they wanted to. Black only has things like Sadistic Sacrament to stop this. Once this gets played, black will have a very difficult time getting rid of it, which is bad because it shuts down one of blacks most powerful abilities.
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But I guess that the situation is a lock down in red. Can't tutor for answers for Akroma, nonbasics locked out from Moon effect, and Omen Machine can't let them topdeck card draw.
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