For the MBS prerelease (and onward), if your store wants lands, it'll have to buy them in sleeves of 400 (80 of each). (It used to be that each prerelease kit and launch party kit included one.) Also, this is only available to retail locations, not independent organizers, and not intended for resale. Price is "contact your distributor or WPN rep", so it may be quite minor, but I don't really know.
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Wotc spends the same amount of money printing a forest as they do a baneslayer, so printing and packaging 400 lands does cost them some money to do. This is also likely a way to reduce demand for cards (Which is a common practice).
They should have done that back during Zendikar. It would have made those lands cheaper on some of us and easier to get a complete set of the artwork you wanted.
Most guys I know bring a pack of 100 lands (20 of each) to most limited events. Basic lands have been hard to come by for some time at the release events I go to so this is a non-issue for me.
i could of sworn there was an added system about donated land going out to the new/old stores that actually need it. i'll try and find the paper on it.
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They should have done that back during Zendikar. It would have made those lands cheaper on some of us and easier to get a complete set of the artwork you wanted.
Fatpacks for ZEN had regular basics not full-art
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The Intro Packs had the regular basics. One of the reasons I bought the Zendikar and Worldwake fat packs was the full-art lands were included, and I have no normal basics from Zendikar.
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Do we really need to be printing tons of lands every set? It seems wasteful. Someday we'll reach critical mass and be drowned in a torrent of paper lands.
MTG becoming more and more a pricey little game. Not a problem with my LGS and I have plenty of lands myself, but it's yet another lame move from WOTC. I do understand the lands cost them money, but still...
Wizards really does seem determined to outdouche themselves recently. Everytime they do something douchey, boom, a new level of douchebaggery. I understand the cost of printing 400 lands for 5000 prereleases, or whatever it is, adds up, but just make it a policy not to send them unless asked. Stores with a few hundred thousand basics arent going to be requesting more useless bulk.
I'd imagine that the landpack will probably cost just above the S&H required for the landpack.
It will probably cost the same as ordering it right now does. I remember there was a period of time where my LGS was asking for a dollar deposit when you borrowed lands because people kept taking them home and they had to pay to order land sleeves in order to keep the FNMs going.
Edit before someone replies, "But inflation!" - According to this website, Wizard's booster pack price increases have outpaced inflation, so that they charge $.50/pack more than they did circa Ice Age packs, adjusted for inflation. In case you're curious, that's $1.54/pack price increase since Ice Age, with no adjustment for inflation.
Further edit: That means that every time Wizards has found it necessary to adjust its prices, someone has said, "You know, we could just raise our prices to match inflation, but you know what? Let's really put the screws to our loyal customers and offer the same product for more money (or less value for the same money, if you prefer...) In reply to the post above me, this seems like a rolling douche move over several turns.
They do exist. You only need to be affiliated with a store to get promos, FNMs, launch parties, etc. Regular non-affiliated TOs can still run and hold sanctioned tournaments.
RE: Land. My LSG allows players to keep the land (some players want the new art, other players just need more basics) and so getting a refill every 3 months is helpful.
When I was a new player, my collection was what other people had donated to me after quitting, and none of them played green. So after I bought a few packs, I had 0 Forests and to this day have old green cards with the word "Forest" written on them. No joke. I think this program would be fine if they just made it an opt-in program.
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Short summary of the FAQ on the link:
For the MBS prerelease (and onward), if your store wants lands, it'll have to buy them in sleeves of 400 (80 of each). (It used to be that each prerelease kit and launch party kit included one.) Also, this is only available to retail locations, not independent organizers, and not intended for resale. Price is "contact your distributor or WPN rep", so it may be quite minor, but I don't really know.
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Wotc spends the same amount of money printing a forest as they do a baneslayer, so printing and packaging 400 lands does cost them some money to do. This is also likely a way to reduce demand for cards (Which is a common practice).
Generals meant to be drafted first in a single pack of 6 cards.
And here is the actual cube, meant to be drafted in 4 regular sized packs. (60 card decks)
to be fair it does contain an additional pack. but yeah, this
They should have done that back during Zendikar. It would have made those lands cheaper on some of us and easier to get a complete set of the artwork you wanted.
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Fatpacks for ZEN had regular basics not full-art
"Some day the piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality that we shall either go mad from the relevation or flee from the deadly light into the peace and safety of a new dark age." H.P. Lovecraft
The Intro Packs had the regular basics. One of the reasons I bought the Zendikar and Worldwake fat packs was the full-art lands were included, and I have no normal basics from Zendikar.
http://www.wizards.com/magic/magazine/article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/arcana/263
Intro packs had regular basics, but the fat pack land was indeed full art.
And this decision probably won't change too much. I doubt the land pack will cost a high amount at all.
I'd imagine that the landpack will probably cost just above the S&H required for the landpack.
that's it, I'm cutting you off. No more packs or tournaments for me.
Proxies all the way.
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Do we really need to be printing tons of lands every set? It seems wasteful. Someday we'll reach critical mass and be drowned in a torrent of paper lands.
It will probably cost the same as ordering it right now does. I remember there was a period of time where my LGS was asking for a dollar deposit when you borrowed lands because people kept taking them home and they had to pay to order land sleeves in order to keep the FNMs going.
Why couldn't you?
It is good to learn from your failures, but I prefer to learn from the failures of others.
If only Wizards of the Coast were able to mark up the price of pieces of cardboard arbitrarily, they might be able to give the lands to tournament organizers gratis as a gesture of goodwill. After all, it's not as though Baneslayer Angels or Basic Forests have any intrinsic worth beyond the cardboard they're printed on.
Hmmm...
Edit before someone replies, "But inflation!" - According to this website, Wizard's booster pack price increases have outpaced inflation, so that they charge $.50/pack more than they did circa Ice Age packs, adjusted for inflation. In case you're curious, that's $1.54/pack price increase since Ice Age, with no adjustment for inflation.
Further edit: That means that every time Wizards has found it necessary to adjust its prices, someone has said, "You know, we could just raise our prices to match inflation, but you know what? Let's really put the screws to our loyal customers and offer the same product for more money (or less value for the same money, if you prefer...) In reply to the post above me, this seems like a rolling douche move over several turns.
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Being listened to would've beat saying I TOLD YOU SO 3 years later.
RE: Land. My LSG allows players to keep the land (some players want the new art, other players just need more basics) and so getting a refill every 3 months is helpful.
When I was a new player, my collection was what other people had donated to me after quitting, and none of them played green. So after I bought a few packs, I had 0 Forests and to this day have old green cards with the word "Forest" written on them. No joke. I think this program would be fine if they just made it an opt-in program.