I don't what people are so negative about.
This is a great product for beginners or casual players.
I wish this was around when I was starting.
When I started playing the only way to get started was getting lots of packs, tournament packs, and intro decks. I could have saved myself a ton of money with these.
Conflux: Child of Alara (And Path to Exile!)
M10: Magebane Armor ( )
Zendikar: Halo Hunter (Woo...)
Worldwake: Novablast Wurm (Yay?)
Best thing I got was a Path. Lol. I think a few people are going to try to build decks with only cards from their toolkits, that seems like a fun idea to me.
I don't what people are so negative about.
This is a great product for beginners or casual players.
I wish this was around when I was starting.
When I started playing the only way to get started was getting lots of packs, tournament packs, and intro decks. I could have saved myself a ton of money with these.
How is this a great product for beginners? The intro packs are better...and I'm not a fan of the intro packs, either.
Like I said, there are too many 1-ofs to allow beginners to make any kind of decent deck at all.
I would say its more for the people who have played with an intro pack and want to learn how to build a deck. its not necessarily for beginners.
I bought one haven't been playing long, but i did like the cards it came with. It had some uncommon and common ROE. iI mean its just like buying 4 booster's so your not really wasting your money...
The way i see it your buying 4 booster's Conflux, M10, Zen, and WW. On top of that they are giving you 225 cards and a box to put everything for Free.... The only thing i wish it came with is a box for the deck you built.
from m10 i pulled a coat of arms and from zen halo hunter. nothing special.
Yeah, one of hte reasons i'm so butthurt about trying to find one is because I don't know how to build good decks. Although I did win three games last night.
....Out of nine.
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I think these are a pretty good idea. I'm under the assumption that the semi-randomised will most likely include anything from extended or later.
And that the boosters from recent sets will include Alara and Zendikar, as well as M10.
Either way, I think this will be worth the money. I don't expect any great cards, or even full playsets to come from a single box, though.
Pretty happy with mine, Nicol Bolas Planeswalker far and away best pull, but really getting a good mix of extra lightning bolts and doom blades...a good value and a solid foundation for new players.
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How is this a great product for beginners? The intro packs are better...and I'm not a fan of the intro packs, either.
Like I said, there are too many 1-ofs to allow beginners to make any kind of decent deck at all.
I don't think the point is to let beginners make a tournament viable deck. Rather, it is intended to provide the groundwork for them to let their creative juices flow. Much of the fun for new players is realizing that card X comboes with card Y, etc. There seems to be enough variety in these packs to create this diversity.
For about $30, a new player could grab this and an Intro Pack of their choice, and get a full 60 card deck, 5 various Booster Packs, and a box full of staple cards that holds all of it conveniently.
It's a really great time to be a new Magic player. I wish I had some of this stuff way back when I started playing.
People who complain about this being a money grab are an odd bunch. WOTC is a business, everything they have ever released is a money grab, live with it. Having said that this is a great product, I have a bunch of friends who just started up and I'm probably going to be telling them to buy this next time we are strolling around the card shop. Intro decks are great, but in order to get a sufficient amount of different color lands you would need to buy three or four different decks, so I think this is a far superior product. As stated above it's a great time to be a new player.
I think these are a pretty good idea. I'm under the assumption that the semi-randomised will most likely include anything from extended or later.
And that the boosters from recent sets will include Alara and Zendikar, as well as M10.
Either way, I think this will be worth the money. I don't expect any great cards, or even full playsets to come from a single box, though.
The semi-random cards are all from M10, Zendikar, Worldwake, and Rise of the Eldrazi. Every single box toolkit has the same boosters, as far as I can tell; Conflux, Zendikar, Worldwake, and M10. It's not a bad mix; The semirandom staples will mostly or entirely be legal in standard for a good long while, and the packs include a good mix of cards that play well together (Zen and Worldwake) and some that can help encourage using two or possibly three colors (Conflux). I'm disappointed that there are no cards from Shards of Alara Reborn, but it's solid considering the whole package.
I got one today, and I'd say what I got was decent. I ended up putting together an aggressive BR deck with a decent Vampire theme (Got a Nighthawk and a Lacerator, so I was pretty happy.) and a janky RGW Eldrazi Ramp deck. I noticed that in the cards I got, white and blue were both really lacking compared to the other three colors; but that's just the luck of the draw I guess. I'm really glad that every single box seems to have four Terramorphic Expanses, makes multicolor decks much easier to build. Was disappointed that I only got two Lightning Bolts, I had been hoping that there were four minimum.
Anyway, I started playing Magic around Judgment, but haven't played paper Magic since Darksteel. These are the first cards I've bought in years and I couldn't be happier; only twenty dollars and I have enough decent cards to put together at least two casual-quality decks. I might consider getting a second one, just for more staples, or maybe an Intro Pack or two to flesh out the decks I'm already putting together. This is by far the best product that has been put out by Wizards in a long time, in terms of mass appeal; Planechase is awesome, but isn't for everyone. The Deckbuilder's Toolkit is something that both new players and more experienced ones who just want to get their hands on a bunch of solid, useful cards with a small pricetag. Thumbs up Wizards, way up.
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Black
1 Blood Seeker
2 Child of Night
1 Death Cultist
1 Disfigure
1 Doom Blade
1 Duress
1 Giant Scorpion
1 Gloomhunter
1 Gravedigger
1 Last Kiss
1 Looming Shade
1 Mind Sludge
1 Sign in Blood
1 Zombie Goliath
Land
4 Terramorphic Expanse
20 Plains
20 Island
20 Swamp
20 Mountain
20 Forest
You also get (and this is the semi-random part) 10 cards from 4 of the strategies lined out in the Deck Builder's Toolkit poster, each separated by one of the above Terramorphic Expanses. Here they are in the order they will apper (keep in mind the list wraps, so you may get WW, G/W, Elves, U/W):
Blue Control
1 Air Elemental
1 Essence Scatter
1 Frostwind Invoker
1 Ice Cage
1 Into the Roil
1 Mind Control
1 Mysteries of the Deep
1 Summoner's Bane
1 Surrakar Banisher
1 Wall of Frost
Black-Red Destruction
1 Dead Reckoning
1 Doom Blade
1 Hideous End
1 Marsh Casualties
1 Quest for the Gravelord
1 Rise from the Grave
1 Flame Slash
1 Goblin Artillery
1 Lightning Elemental
1 Ruinous Minotaur
The kit I got yesterday had the Ramp, Vamp, RG aggro, and Eldrazi lots in it. None of my packs had anything good in them though. Naturally, the guy who buys one after me pops a Baneslayer Angel in his.
There are 11 different strategies that you can get 10 cards (plus a Terramorphic Expanse) from. That means that if the sets of 4 strategies can come in any combination, there are 7920 possible configurations of Toolboxes. Redacted.
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It appears that the sets of 10 are set up in this order: MUC, B/R, Vamp, R/G, Eldrazi, Ramp, Burn, WW, Aura, Elves, U/W, MUC, etc. There will only be 11 possible toolkits, the "each one is different" coming from the 4 boosters.
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I got B/R, Vampires, R/G and Eldrazi in mine. I compiled the Mana Ramp, WW, Burn and Auras from Evan Erwin.
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And I got the MUC from a video on YouTube, and Elves and U/W from a friend's toolbox.
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My packs had Guardian Seraph, Paleoloth, Goblin Guide and Terastadon in them. Path to Exile and River Boa were the only notable uncommons. Not terrible, but not amazing either.
I wasn't able to note what strategies were in the box I got, as I handed it off to some friends, but I pulled Ajani Goldmane and Raging Ravine out of the packs. I was pleased, to say the least.
My packs had Nissa Revane, Ragine Ravine (foil Dragonmaster Outcast), Charnelhoard Wurm and Earthquake. Got 2 Lightning Bolts and 2 Duress as well among the other cards / the M10 pack.
There are 11 different strategies that you can get 10 cards (plus a Terramorphic Expanse) from. That means that if the sets of 4 strategies can come in any combination, there are 7920 possible configurations of Toolboxes.
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Even if the order is random, this greatly overcounts the number of possible sets of configurations. Keep in mind that Burn-Weenie-Ramp-Vampires would really be the same as Weenie-Burn-Ramp-Vampires, but your method treats them as distinct. You've got to divide by 24, the number of ways to reorder any set of 4 choices. (More technical explanation: You found 11P4, but you want 11C4.) In the end there'd only be 330 different ways, but if they are packed in a set order, the whole point is moot.
Even if the order is random, this greatly overcounts the number of possible sets of configurations. Keep in mind that Burn-Weenie-Ramp-Vampires would really be the same as Weenie-Burn-Ramp-Vampires, but your method treats them as distinct. You've got to divide by 24, the number of ways to reorder any set of 4 choices. (More technical explanation: You found 11P4, but you want 11C4.) In the end there'd only be 330 different ways, but if they are packed in a set order, the whole point is moot.
Still a high amount of variance, but the preset order seems to be correct. My box definitely was in the Vamp, R/G, Eldrazi cluster. I might consider getting another in hopes of getting more Blue and White, though even if I end up with some of the same sets I just get to stock up on more two-of and four-ofs. It's only twenty bucks, after all, getting multiples of these is certainly pretty affordable.
This is a great product for beginners or casual players.
I wish this was around when I was starting.
When I started playing the only way to get started was getting lots of packs, tournament packs, and intro decks. I could have saved myself a ton of money with these.
Conflux: Child of Alara (And Path to Exile!)
M10: Magebane Armor ( )
Zendikar: Halo Hunter (Woo...)
Worldwake: Novablast Wurm (Yay?)
Best thing I got was a Path. Lol. I think a few people are going to try to build decks with only cards from their toolkits, that seems like a fun idea to me.
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Standard: Jeskai Tempo
Legacy: Dredge, Burn
Pauper: Mono-U Delver
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Commander:
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BRG Shattergang Brothers
GUR Riku of Two Reflections
WBG Karador, Ghost Chieftain
How is this a great product for beginners? The intro packs are better...and I'm not a fan of the intro packs, either.
Like I said, there are too many 1-ofs to allow beginners to make any kind of decent deck at all.
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he got a jace beleren from a pack
This product is to teach new players how to build decks and get them thinking about strategy.
And the decks you can build are pretty good. Last night at FNM we did a fun little sealed excersise with the stuff and it was fun.
It really reminded me of when I started with a small pool of cards and went about creating decks.
It's a much better starting point then the intro packs because it gives new players the tools to start on their Magic career.
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Modern: U/R Delver, RUG Scapeshift, Pod
Standard: Jeskai Tempo
Legacy: Dredge, Burn
Pauper: Mono-U Delver
EDH: Ghave, Token Master
I bought one haven't been playing long, but i did like the cards it came with. It had some uncommon and common ROE. iI mean its just like buying 4 booster's so your not really wasting your money...
The way i see it your buying 4 booster's Conflux, M10, Zen, and WW. On top of that they are giving you 225 cards and a box to put everything for Free.... The only thing i wish it came with is a box for the deck you built.
from m10 i pulled a coat of arms and from zen halo hunter. nothing special.
Removing Gaea's Revenge without DOJ:
....Out of nine.
"Isn't the shortest route through the canyon?"
"Yes."
"So shouldn't we--"
"No."
And that the boosters from recent sets will include Alara and Zendikar, as well as M10.
Either way, I think this will be worth the money. I don't expect any great cards, or even full playsets to come from a single box, though.
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I don't think the point is to let beginners make a tournament viable deck. Rather, it is intended to provide the groundwork for them to let their creative juices flow. Much of the fun for new players is realizing that card X comboes with card Y, etc. There seems to be enough variety in these packs to create this diversity.
It's a really great time to be a new Magic player. I wish I had some of this stuff way back when I started playing.
and it was far and away the cheapest Jace the Mind Sculpter I have gotten so far.
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The semi-random cards are all from M10, Zendikar, Worldwake, and Rise of the Eldrazi. Every single box toolkit has the same boosters, as far as I can tell; Conflux, Zendikar, Worldwake, and M10. It's not a bad mix; The semirandom staples will mostly or entirely be legal in standard for a good long while, and the packs include a good mix of cards that play well together (Zen and Worldwake) and some that can help encourage using two or possibly three colors (Conflux). I'm disappointed that there are no cards from Shards of Alara Reborn, but it's solid considering the whole package.
I got one today, and I'd say what I got was decent. I ended up putting together an aggressive BR deck with a decent Vampire theme (Got a Nighthawk and a Lacerator, so I was pretty happy.) and a janky RGW Eldrazi Ramp deck. I noticed that in the cards I got, white and blue were both really lacking compared to the other three colors; but that's just the luck of the draw I guess. I'm really glad that every single box seems to have four Terramorphic Expanses, makes multicolor decks much easier to build. Was disappointed that I only got two Lightning Bolts, I had been hoping that there were four minimum.
Anyway, I started playing Magic around Judgment, but haven't played paper Magic since Darksteel. These are the first cards I've bought in years and I couldn't be happier; only twenty dollars and I have enough decent cards to put together at least two casual-quality decks. I might consider getting a second one, just for more staples, or maybe an Intro Pack or two to flesh out the decks I'm already putting together. This is by far the best product that has been put out by Wizards in a long time, in terms of mass appeal; Planechase is awesome, but isn't for everyone. The Deckbuilder's Toolkit is something that both new players and more experienced ones who just want to get their hands on a bunch of solid, useful cards with a small pricetag. Thumbs up Wizards, way up.
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EVERY DECK BUILDER'S TOOLKIT COMES WITH THE FOLLOWING:
Boosters
1 Pack of M10
1 Pack of Conflux
1 Pack of Zendikar
1 Pack of Worldwake
Colorless
1 Ulamog's Crusher
White
1 Blinding Mage
1 Caravan Hurda
1 Harm's Way
1 Iona's Judgment
1 Kor Hookmaster
1 Kor Sanctifiers
1 Lone Missionary
1 Makindi Griffin
2 Pacifism
1 Palace Guard
1 Repel the Darkness
1 Serra Angel
1 Shieldmate's Blessing
1 Soul Warden
1 Stormfront Pegasus
Blue
2 Cancel
1 Divination
1 Essence Scatter
1 Fleeting Distraction
1 Horned Turtle
1 Jwari Scuttler
1 Merfolk Looter
1 Mind Control
1 Paralyzing Grasp
1 Sea Gate Oracle
1 Sky Ruin Drake
1 Sleep
1 Snapping Drake
1 Surrakar Banisher
1 Unsummon
Black
1 Blood Seeker
2 Child of Night
1 Death Cultist
1 Disfigure
1 Doom Blade
1 Duress
1 Giant Scorpion
1 Gloomhunter
1 Gravedigger
1 Last Kiss
1 Looming Shade
1 Mind Sludge
1 Sign in Blood
1 Zombie Goliath
Red
1 Berserkers of Blood Rage
1 Bladetusk Boar
1 Claws of Valakut
1 Demolish
1 Dragon Whelp
1 Goblin Arsonist
1 Goblin Roughrider
1 Goblin Shortcutter
1 Heat Ray
1 Lava Axe
2 Lightning Bolt
1 Lightning Elemental
1 Panic Attack
1 Prodigal Pyromancer
1 Sparkmage Apprentice
Green
1 Aura Gnarlid
1 Giant Growth
1 Giant Spider
1 Leaf Arrow
2 Llanowar Elves
1 Naturalize
1 Nissa's Chosen
1 Oakenform
1 Overrun
1 Rampant Growth
1 River Boa
1 Savage Silhouette
1 Stampeding Rhino
1 Timbermaw Larva
1 Vastwood Gorger
Artifact
1 Kitesail
Land
4 Terramorphic Expanse
20 Plains
20 Island
20 Swamp
20 Mountain
20 Forest
You also get (and this is the semi-random part) 10 cards from 4 of the strategies lined out in the Deck Builder's Toolkit poster, each separated by one of the above Terramorphic Expanses. Here they are in the order they will apper (keep in mind the list wraps, so you may get WW, G/W, Elves, U/W):
Elves!
2 Elvish Visionary
1 Greenweaver Druid
1 Might of the Masses
1 Llanowar Elves
1 Nissa's Chosen
1 Overrun
1 Wildheart Invoker
1 Ogre's Cleaver
1 Pennon Blade
Blue-White Fliers
1 Divine Verdict
1 Fledgling Griffin
1 Griffin Sentinel
1 Safe Passage
1 Serra Angel
1 Illusionary Servant
1 Living Tsunami
1 Phantom Warrior
1 Sejiri Merfolk
1 Wind Drake
Blue Control
1 Air Elemental
1 Essence Scatter
1 Frostwind Invoker
1 Ice Cage
1 Into the Roil
1 Mind Control
1 Mysteries of the Deep
1 Summoner's Bane
1 Surrakar Banisher
1 Wall of Frost
Black-Red Destruction
1 Dead Reckoning
1 Doom Blade
1 Hideous End
1 Marsh Casualties
1 Quest for the Gravelord
1 Rise from the Grave
1 Flame Slash
1 Goblin Artillery
1 Lightning Elemental
1 Ruinous Minotaur
Vampires
1 Arrogant Bloodlord
1 Blood Seeker
1 Consume Spirit
1 Feast of Blood
1 Gatekeeper of Malakir
1 Sign in Blood
1 Tendrils of Corruption
1 Vampire Aristocrat
1 Vampire Lacerator
1 Vampire Nighthawk
Red-Green Aggro
1 Bestial Menace
1 Borderland Ranger
1 Centaur Courser
1 Giant Growth
1 Summit Apes
1 Goblin Shortcutter
1 Shatterskull Giant
1 Torch Slinger
1 Valakut Fireboar
1 Trusty Machete
Eldrazi
1 Artisan of Kozilek
1 Hand of Emrakul
1 Pathrazer of Ulamog
1 Brood Birthing
1 Emrakul's Hatcher
1 Rapacious One
1 Spawning Breath
1 Dreamstone Hedron
1 Pilgrim's Eye
1 Reinforced Bulwark
Mana Ramp
1 Craw Wurm
1 Explore
1 Frontier Guide
1 Howl of the Night Pack
1 Living Destiny
1 Ondu Giant
1 Pelakka Wurm
1 Timbermaw Larva
1 Vastwood Gorger
1 Whispersilk Cloak
Red Burn
1 Burst Lightning
1 Explosive Revelation
1 Fiery Hellhound
1 Fireball
1 Kiln Fiend
1 Lava Axe
1 Lightning Bolt
1 Lust for War
1 Searing Blaze
1 Rod of Ruin
White Weenie
1 Armored Ascension
1 Brave the Elements
1 Elite Vanguard
1 Journey to Nowhere
1 Kor Firewalker
1 Kor Hookmaster
1 Soul Warden
2 Veteran Armorsmith
1 Veteran Swordsmith
Green-White Auras
1 Hyena Umbra
1 Mammoth Umbra
1 Totem-Guide Hartebeest
2 Aura Gnarlid
1 Boar Umbra
1 Canopy Cover
1 Nature's Spiral
1 Savage Silhouette
1 Snake Umbra
There are 11 different strategies that you can get 10 cards (plus a Terramorphic Expanse) from. That means that if the sets of 4 strategies can come in any combination, there are 7920 possible configurations of Toolboxes.Redacted.[edit]
It appears that the sets of 10 are set up in this order: MUC, B/R, Vamp, R/G, Eldrazi, Ramp, Burn, WW, Aura, Elves, U/W, MUC, etc. There will only be 11 possible toolkits, the "each one is different" coming from the 4 boosters.
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I got B/R, Vampires, R/G and Eldrazi in mine. I compiled the Mana Ramp, WW, Burn and Auras from Evan Erwin.
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And I got the MUC from a video on YouTube, and Elves and U/W from a friend's toolbox.
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My packs had Guardian Seraph, Paleoloth, Goblin Guide and Terastadon in them. Path to Exile and River Boa were the only notable uncommons. Not terrible, but not amazing either.
Math teacher reporting in!
Even if the order is random, this greatly overcounts the number of possible sets of configurations. Keep in mind that Burn-Weenie-Ramp-Vampires would really be the same as Weenie-Burn-Ramp-Vampires, but your method treats them as distinct. You've got to divide by 24, the number of ways to reorder any set of 4 choices. (More technical explanation: You found 11P4, but you want 11C4.) In the end there'd only be 330 different ways, but if they are packed in a set order, the whole point is moot.
Still a high amount of variance, but the preset order seems to be correct. My box definitely was in the Vamp, R/G, Eldrazi cluster. I might consider getting another in hopes of getting more Blue and White, though even if I end up with some of the same sets I just get to stock up on more two-of and four-ofs. It's only twenty bucks, after all, getting multiples of these is certainly pretty affordable.
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