[WWK] Lavaclaw Reaches

  • #27
    I believe the issue with comes into play tapped is actually that the wording should be enters the battlefield tapped as for the land itself, the last red manland was rarely played and the back one that produced a dredge skeleton was actually rather good, but again wasn't terribly well played. late game post day of judgement etc this might be a fine closer to funnel your mana into.
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  • #28
    Two toughness is terrible.
    Can't wait for the others.
    Does this prove that they will only be friendly colored?


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  • #29
    I hate it when they put additional mana abilities on manlands. Takes to much mana to both activate and make a decent creature out of it. A bit like the black original man land which had 1b: activate and extra regenerate cost.
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  • #30
    it can't be called Lavaclaw Region as i previously stated because region does not appear in the orb or can it?
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  • #31
    teehee, just pictured this looking across the table at a quicksand. d'oh!
  • #32
    I presume we can all expect a man-land cycle now. I wonder what the others will behold.

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  • #33
    An Elemental with an activated ability for X. Without the "X can't be 0" wording of Aeon Chronicler etc.

    You know what this means?

    Ceaseless Searblades becomes arbitrarily large, every turn! (Okay, every turn you have the mana to activate the land. But still.)
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  • #34
    Hmm this isnt so good ..
    But its fine with me as long as BR doesnt get boosted Smile . (and we knew that not ALL 5 manlands would be high-playable right? )
  • #35
    Quote from aleisterc80
    "comes into play tapped" ??? Am I the only one that sees it ?

    Well, the german translators thought the change wasn't needed, I guess because the german language is a lot more clearer considering the "play" issue - I mean, it is still the same word in german, but "Spiel" and "spielen" usually don't confuse anyone, as at least the noun is always written in capital letters...

    The land itself looks pretty decent. Probably not as good as the WU one, but in an aggressive red-black deck with blightning and stuff, you can definitely run 2-3 of those and they just win you some games.

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  • #36
    Quote from alextfish
    An Elemental with an activated ability for X. Without the "X can't be 0" wording of Aeon Chronicler etc.

    You know what this means?

    Ceaseless Searblades becomes arbitrarily large, every turn! (Okay, every turn you have the mana to activate the land. But still.)


    That's...

    Actually, really cool. O_O

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  • #37
    Quote from emeraldhero
    it can't be called Lavaclaw Region as i previously stated because region does not appear in the orb or can it?


    I'm going to assume that it's Lavaclaw Reaches for now. ~Reaches~ has three hits.

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  • #38
    if we check the WU land and the BR, the BR needs one more ability to be good like the WU, WU has vigilance and fly, BR only pump, i think a B:regenerate saves the day... =/ bleh land
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  • #39
    Quote from Guinea Pig
    I'm going to assume that it's Lavaclaw Reaches for now. ~Reaches~ has three hits.


    Reaches makes sense - that's a name that makes it clear it's a land.
  • #40
    Good in BR decks, if those exist (another finisher for the BR Crypt Combo?) in addition to Refuge and Dragonskull Summit. No other deck is replacing Summit for this.
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  • #41
    Meh. It doesn't scream "broken" like Celestial does, but a 2/2 for three that can Enrage might have enough strategic appeal to maybe take a one-of spot in a Tier deck.
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  • #42
    i'm trying to convince myself that these dual-man-lands are good.....but i'm struggling....
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  • #43
    This is actually a nice boon to B/R, even if it's weaker than the U/W manland. People mocking its low power have a way too short memory indeed. Remember Vithu-Ghazi only gave you a 1/1 a turn for the cost of 4 mana, and that would easily be enough to win an attrition war.

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  • #44
    No deck should replace Summit with this, but it's likely to replace Akoum Refuge in the few decks that run them. Of existing T2 decks, Bloodquake will be packing 4 of this no question. And they often have the late game mana to burn.
  • #45
    Don't Jund decks usually pay 1BR for Blightning?
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  • #46
    This being so much like Demonspine Whip makes me hope the GW one is a treetop village with lifelink.
  • #47
    You guys are seriously underestimating the power of a land like this in a game that drags out. This gives you something to do with all your mana later in the game and it hits harder than any other manland. I would say its a good control finisher but there is too much decent nonbasic destruction and its not in Wrath colors.
  • #48
    Celestial Colonnade is crap. Lavaclaw Reaches has potential, at least if control becomes relevant again.
  • #49
    I think the name of the card will be Lavaclaw Reaches. Both words have three hits in the orb and the german name "Lawaklauen-Gebiet" shares "Gebiet" with "Pilzgebiete", the german name of Fungal Reaches.
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  • #50
    Quote from hoyerhan
    Celestial Colonnade is crap. Lavaclaw Reaches has potential, at least if control becomes relevant again.


    Actually I was thinking that this one will ONLY be good if control becomes better, and frankly Colonnade is one of those cards that will help make sure it happens. Even if it takes a year, that will be a x4 of in a Uw control deck... where this is going to be yet another dual land that might get activated once and a while. Vigillance is VERY powerful in a man land.
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  • #51
    The new man-lands are basically all for control decks. This one hits REALLY hard in the late game. It will see play somewhere. Maybe Grixis control will spring up?
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