But since Stifle is maybe a bit 'meaner' of the two, enough folkstotal ☺☺☺☺ing crybabies would whine, they probably won't do it. I wouldn't worry to much about it.
In some Vamp lore, they can turn into creatures right? Like Bats, Wolves etc.
What if he had a minus effect (for all remaining loyalty counters) that turned him into a flying Bat with lifelink with a power and toughness equal to the number of counters removed.
Love him so far :toot:!! I thought his first ability would be that. That last ability is awsome!! I hope this guy gets a wicked second ability. Wonder if he will see play in standard.
I don't think there is enough room on the card for this ability even with the new oracle text. Besides what would you want to do it with one spell when you can do it with their whole turn?
I'm definitely in the Hymn to Tourach camp. It would still have some impact, but wouldn't be as crushing as firing one off first turn. Of course, the 'screw the power levels' part of me wants it to be something like Yawgmoth's Will, but I don't see that happening. Although if it did, I'm pretty sure I'd pee a little.
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Flavor wise... Sorin's probably my favorite walker so far. They nailed it!
Now as far as the second ability goes, I'm hoping for either a token producer (vampire bats or vampire) or something like Rise from the Grave but not a black zombie.
I would say gain control of target creature, but that's Bolas and Sarkhan already... tutor and discard is Liliana... only thing not covered that's "black" is sacrificing.
Creature domination is irrelevant if you can dominate life totals and other players. However, he will need some sort of defense against creatures, so the token generation seems even more likely.
Hopefully we'll find out Friday. While we're at it, WotC might as well just throw Artist Credit and Rarity in for free - we know he's going to be Mythic, and we'd all like to know who painted the piece, but neither of those two things are vital to "spoilers".
I'm thinking about the Mindslaver ability ...
He can make Red decks commit suicide. Or waste all their burn on the "other guy" in a Multiplayer game, leaving their resources expended and with a Red deck, lacking in defenses.
He can use Blue players for management, most likely. Draw, bonuses. And better still - you can play non-beneficial Blue spells from opponents hands and then make them counter themselves.
But I was thinking, you team him up with some fat vampires like Sengirs and you can take control of a player's turn, make them attack yourself with, and pick and choose blockers so that your Sengirs eat ALL of their creatures and get lots of +1/+1.
Then when you say "go" ... you attack with beefy, well fed Sengirs against an opponent with zero blockers.
that definitely looks like the ability MaRo was talking about. It looks like something the mighty Nicol Bolas would pull out. But I must admit it, in a vampire it feels totally right.
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the 'screw the power levels' part of me wants it to be something like Yawgmoth's Will, but I don't see that happening. Although if it did, I'm pretty sure I'd pee a little.
Yes that would be sweet. What he had like -4: Yawgmoth's Will. Wouldn't that be sweet
I dont think they would give Sorin a discard ability since Liliana already has one. Even though hers isn't anywhere near as effective as a random discard.....
Another possibility for his second could be something like:
-X: Pay X life and draw X cards.
Kinda like a pseudo-Necro, but restricted by not wanting to drain too much of his loyalty.
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There's a little something for everyone. Johnny likes the fun of stealing turns. Timmy like the big splashy effects. Spike likes the freepeatable Vampiric Touch/Vicious Hunger.
It's definitely on the Vorthos side of the spectrum ... I'm a bit of a Vorthos-Johnny, and I'm definitely thinking of combos and pairings already. But I think Sorin will stand on his own with the Timmys and Spikes of the world.
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If mana burn was still around, Sorin would definitely have Mindslaver's "no mana burn" clause.
What if he had a minus effect (for all remaining loyalty counters) that turned him into a flying Bat with lifelink with a power and toughness equal to the number of counters removed.
Just some fun speculation. =0)
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I don't think there is enough room on the card for this ability even with the new oracle text. Besides what would you want to do it with one spell when you can do it with their whole turn?
Is it thief, thug or whore? There's one at the door...
And there's room for one more till the end of creation.
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Here's to hoping he does a -2 Rise from the Grave...
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Creature domination is irrelevant if you can dominate life totals and other players. However, he will need some sort of defense against creatures, so the token generation seems even more likely.
Hopefully we'll find out Friday. While we're at it, WotC might as well just throw Artist Credit and Rarity in for free - we know he's going to be Mythic, and we'd all like to know who painted the piece, but neither of those two things are vital to "spoilers".
I'm thinking about the Mindslaver ability ...
He can make Red decks commit suicide. Or waste all their burn on the "other guy" in a Multiplayer game, leaving their resources expended and with a Red deck, lacking in defenses.
He can use Blue players for management, most likely. Draw, bonuses. And better still - you can play non-beneficial Blue spells from opponents hands and then make them counter themselves.
But I was thinking, you team him up with some fat vampires like Sengirs and you can take control of a player's turn, make them attack yourself with, and pick and choose blockers so that your Sengirs eat ALL of their creatures and get lots of +1/+1.
Then when you say "go" ... you attack with beefy, well fed Sengirs against an opponent with zero blockers.
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Yes that would be sweet. What he had like -4: Yawgmoth's Will. Wouldn't that be sweet
I really have no idea what it could be.
That way Sorin can steal life with his plus, and steal knowledge with his minus.
Edit: Maybe the discard could be random, though.
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And I'd like to see this for his second ability: -2:Play target card from your graveyard. You lose life equal to its converted mana cost.
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-X: Pay X life and draw X cards.
Kinda like a pseudo-Necro, but restricted by not wanting to drain too much of his loyalty.
Is it thief, thug or whore? There's one at the door...
And there's room for one more till the end of creation.
Neil Gaiman, Sandman #4 - A Hope in Hell
There's a little something for everyone. Johnny likes the fun of stealing turns. Timmy like the big splashy effects. Spike likes the freepeatable Vampiric Touch/Vicious Hunger.
Works with unaccompanied vampires not named child of night, and works as a more expensive mutilate with the possibility of a still-loyal walker.
It's definitely on the Vorthos side of the spectrum ... I'm a bit of a Vorthos-Johnny, and I'm definitely thinking of combos and pairings already. But I think Sorin will stand on his own with the Timmys and Spikes of the world.
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It's actually more Melvin than Vorthos. His first ability at least is so beaultifuly designed that the Melvin inside me goes "squeee".
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