Yeah firebrand was kinda bad. no, it was really bad. but i agree, the cliffrunner's leagues better, and i guess 5/3 for 4 that could haste+lifelink under easy circumstances (use hybrid creatures, which red and white have a lot of in spades--hell, figure of destiny enables this thing single-handedly!!!) is really good.
But oh, oh, oh, the rare slot!
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No, but that's only the flavour IF the restriction is part of the first ability, not a separate one.
As it is, he's not bargaining for jack. He's saying you take a card, and as long as I can see you, you gotta not attack or block.
The double restriction is just dumb.
If it really were White, he could magically compel the creature to hold to what they agreed in perpetuity. *Or*, Or, the whole mechanic would be (vastly different and) just be a matter of saying "this creature has ~this~ (counter) on it." And using some awesome magic to make them all passive. Because white icons of legend do that kind of thing.
But what we see is a limited form of deal making. It's like he's giving something up for the trade.... but he still has to be there to do the rest of it. He hasn't bargained for anything. He needs that second ability (his presence) to maintain whatever it is that the first ability set up. And because of that, "what the first ability set up," in flavour terms, is unclear.
White doesn't need to give you back something for what you give up. White gives itself the right to stop actions it finds immoral. There is overlap in flavour, yes, of "making everyone happy" and of exchanges in White-Blue, but the way this ended up executed is too much like Blue, what monoblue would have to deal with, in doing this. Blue finds solutions and if negotiation is an option it likes to take it. But it doesn't have the compulsion power that White does... not except for its full-blown mental compulsions (control magic/charms). So that would explain why it's still tied to Gwafa staying around... it feels more like Blue's limitations. So I'm just thinking the White cost is annoying, because clearly Gwafa isn't using it.
Agree to disagree then. I see this white in the same vein that Swords to Plowshares and Path to Exile are white. I'm gona do something you don't like, so here have this to make amends.
I see this white in the same vein that Swords to Plowshares and Path to Exile are white. I'm gona do something you don't like, so here have this to make amends.
I didn't say that theme was not White. I said that for all Gwafa requires to do his work, he shouldn't have so many limitations. He should be stronger. One way (not giving something back), or the other (lasting effect after he dies). Gwafa can be White if they wanna say he is, but the last option is to make the ability not cost a :symw:. They took none.
So moreover, I'm afraid I can't agree to disagree, since I'm not sure we even disagreed.
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I didn't say that theme was not White. I said that for all Gwafa requires to do his work, he shouldn't have so many limitations. He should be stronger. One way (not giving something back), or the other (lasting effect after he dies). Gwafa can be White if they wanna say he is, but the last option is to make the ability not cost a :symw:. They took none.
So moreover, I'm afraid I can't agree to disagree, since I'm not sure we even disagreed.
I agree to agree to agree.
This guy is terrible. He should, like, I don't know, have shroud or something. If they just made it target any creature, it would be fine becuase you could draw one card a turn by having him target himself.
I disagree with this guy's colour too. I thought UW guys where paragon's of order for order's sake, not currupt beurecrats. At the most, in my understanding, a UW guy can be a tight ass that doesn't give any compassion were the rules are concered but perhaps my understanding is limited.
AND that Beast is a beatdown in any naya deck, and will see limited off colour play becuase it's a 5/3 for 4 mana.
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Gwafa isn't just bad, Gwafa is absolute crap (in constructed).
How can you possibly give an opponent a card in trade for neutralizing a single creatures?
Now do the bribery counters stop creatures only when Gwafa is in play to declare those "bribery counter rules"? (Even if they work forever, he still sucks hard in any format but limited...)
Stop 1 creature in return for drawing a card??
Yeesh.
In limited it's a good creature, since you only use the ability on their absolute bombs. I'll definitely trade a card for permananently shutting down their hellkite overlord.
in limited its incredible, i mean how many people would play it if it said TWU each player draws a card, the card you draw is a pacifism, put it into play attached to target creature. its a 1 for 1 trade in an enviornment without shriekmaw. it seems very simmilar to jaya, where you lose one card of card advantage to get rid of an opposing creature. the only difference is instead of you discarding a card, they get a card. while not as good, i would not dismiss this card, espescially in a mistveil plains control deck
in limited its incredible, i mean how many people would play it if it said TWU each player draws a card, the card you draw is a pacifism, put it into play attached to target creature. its a 1 for 1 trade in an enviornment without shriekmaw. it seems very simmilar to jaya, where you lose one card of card advantage to get rid of an opposing creature. the only difference is instead of you discarding a card, they get a card. while not as good, i would not dismiss this card, espescially in a mistveil plains control deck
Whether its at all useful in limited comes down to whether or not the effect expires after he leaves play. If it does, I'd say he's close to last pick. Maybe not last because his ability might at least stall a game a couple of turns if you can pacify a bomb or two late game. If the effect doesn't expire then he's fairly decent in limited...though card advantage is absolutely KING in limited so I still don't think he's that great.
What about in two headed giant? It can net your ally 1 extra card per turn by repeatedly putting bribery counters on one of his/her mana producers or utility creatures. But in all other formats he is complete junk.
Obviously, if his effect lasts after he leaves, he's good in limited, since getting a non-removablepacifism at will is reasonable to trade for a card (half of which are gonna be land, most of the rest are going to be just OK playables, and at most, and maybe 1/8 will be threats or removal as good as the one you just pacifism'd.
Whatever you just neutralized should have at least 80% chance of being better than what you just let them draw.
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I guess I took your last post wrong then. To me it sounded like you were saying that his abilities are not white flavored du to it being a trade rather then just enforcing control. I feel that both his flavor and his mechanics seem very white.
I said that for all Gwafa requires to do his work, he shouldn't have so many limitations. He should be stronger. One way (not giving something back), or the other (lasting effect after he dies). Gwafa can be White if they wanna say he is, but the last option is to make the ability not cost a . They took none.
So moreover, I'm afraid I can't agree to disagree, since I'm not sure we even disagreed.
Oh I agree that the card has to many limitation put on it. It would be so easy to remove any one of them and make him a very playable card. I imagine that if the spoil is right then he got toned down du to play testing as being too efficient at shutting creatures down and they took it a step too far.
I agree to agree to agree.
I disagree with this guy's colour too. I thought UW guys where paragon's of order for order's sake, not currupt beurecrats. At the most, in my understanding, a UW guy can be a tight ass that doesn't give any compassion were the rules are concered but perhaps my understanding is limited.
I believe the only requirement of a UW character is that the character poses characteristic that are white aligned and characteristics that are blue aligned though they don't have to be the same characteristics. (if they are 100% shared characteristics it would be hybrid)
In this case i would say the U aspect of him would be the card draw while the white aspect is giving that draw to the person who was just wronged as a meens of retribution.
The shared aspect would be locking down the creature as both white and blue do that.
flavor wise I think he is right on as a UW character
I've decided he has to be this. As it stands, he was bad when spoiled without an activation cost. These things tend to be playtest tweaks, so unless they were making him intentionally terrible (and lose sales) he wouldn't have the cost to tap.
If the effect is permanent, he's balanced, and may have been too strong without the activation cost - he was never designed to be a competitive rare, just a good limited/casual card.
Looking over the //www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtgcom/daily/mr5">article on bad cards - he's not designed for a less advanced player, he's not designed to fit into a future archetype, as a rare legend he's here to sell packs and not to differentiate skilled players, and he's not interesting to built around (barring future counter shenanigans). He's a utility card that sucks at utility.
I want to point out that this move is actually genius. Looking at it this way to try and figure out how Wizards was building it, to derive what it will be, is a great move, and I thank and applaud you for bringing that out.
However, I'm afraid that Gwafa is interesting to build around. I can only put myself up as evidence. Despite what I said, I'm still going to try to use him.
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Thank you for your response, Joystickgenie. The next step to me is to play out the card, and see what it evokes in actual play.
I think one thing understated, and I want to thank Dark draco for this, is how it is still repeatability. Repeatability is itself a commodity. Having that one Pacifism never seems like enough, it seems like bandaging the problem, but never getting ahead... With Gwafa in play, he is of course theoretically a way to continue the shenanigans until they die from not blocking.
This is a very cool option that White-Blue would not otherwise have - which, by the way, I think is the home run for legendary cards: Something in flavour, but very special that's so valuable because of the way it quite works.
So I like the card. And think they made it wrong.
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Behomoth is good in limited but Gwafa Hazid is horrible. Possibly the worst rare created. It's not even good as an EDH general and if you want the colors Grand Arbiter Augustin IV is a much better card.
I like Gwafa, personally. Ill be running him as a one (or two) of in my T2Stag deck. Im already play testing the behemoth on mws, and people are crying imba. It's probably going to single handedly bring back fattie beatdown. Gwafa himself fits into the best two STALL colors in the game- Blue an White. So much widespread lockdown, this guy is just a card advantage (on your side, that is) And makes Pacifism. Players seem to forget how easy it is to keep a creature alive if you actually want to. (Hindering Light, negate, DEFENSIVE countering? Yeah, no cryptic commands, I know!) Passive decks would love this card. (Hoofprints of the Stag is what I have in mind) Nut hey, its not epic counter spell or control aid, so why would anyone here like it?
It's understandable blue control players would be shocked and in denial at the notion of this card, since their decks have been dominating multiple formats for an eternity yet they've curiously never once had to deal with any counter-hosers that weren't ineffectual, narrow CRAP.
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I guess I took your last post wrong then. To me it sounded like you were saying that his abilities are not white flavored du to it being a trade rather then just enforcing control. I feel that both his flavor and his mechanics seem very white.
Oh I agree that the card has to many limitation put on it. It would be so easy to remove any one of them and make him a very playable card. I imagine that if the spoil is right then he got toned down du to play testing as being too efficient at shutting creatures down and they took it a step too far.
I believe the only requirement of a UW character is that the character poses characteristic that are white aligned and characteristics that are blue aligned though they don't have to be the same characteristics. (if they are 100% shared characteristics it would be hybrid)
In this case i would say the U aspect of him would be the card draw while the white aspect is giving that draw to the person who was just wronged as a meens of retribution.
The shared aspect would be locking down the creature as both white and blue do that.
flavor wise I think he is right on as a UW character
The Skyward Eye was a knightly order devoted to the ideal of righteousness. But the leadership became corrupted, and their values twisted into persecution and intolerance. The knights crusaded against people who didn't uphold the "true" values of Bant, dividing families, castes, and eventually causing war between nations.
Gwafa Hazid is another agent on Bant. He travels on the Grand Caravan, spreading rumors and swindling his fellow citizens whenever he can get away with it. He is one of the few genuinely ambitious people in Bant and embraces his newfound purpose—and potential rewards—with relish.
Reading that description, I would infer that he is a corrupt toady for Nicol Bolas, and he dosen't precribe to the character traits that I usually acociate with W; i.e. valuing order, and trying to uphold socioty as a whole. He seems to be just in it for himself.
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Gwafa Hazid is another agent on Bant. He travels on the Grand Caravan, spreading rumors and swindling his fellow citizens whenever he can get away with it. He is one of the few genuinely ambitious people in Bant and embraces his newfound purpose—and potential rewards—with relish.
Reading that description, I would infer that he is a corrupt toady for Nicol Bolas, and he dosen't precribe to the character traits that I usually acociate with W; i.e. valuing order, and trying to uphold socioty as a whole. He seems to be just in it for himself.
Ok, with that, Yeah, I think he sounds U or even UB. Really it seams they just gave him white because of where he was born.
The only way I can possibly see twisting that to be W is that he is performing these acts in an attempt to complete a greater goal. Like being hard on people to encourage self-reliance and growth in others. Kind of like Jade Empire's way of the closed fist. But that is a way out there twist on logic and goes against "genuinely ambitious"
It's understandable blue control players would be shocked and in denial at the notion of this card, since their decks have been dominating multiple formats for an eternity yet they've curiously never once had to deal with any counter-hosers that weren't ineffectual, narrow CRAP.
Ok, with that, Yeah, I think he sounds U or even UB. Really it seams they just gave him white because of where he was born.
The only way I can possibly see twisting that to be W is that he is performing these acts in an attempt to complete a greater goal. Like being hard on people to encourage self-reliance and growth in others. Kind of like Jade Empire's way of the closed fist. But that is a way out there twist on logic and goes against "genuinely ambitious"
White never believes "the ends justify the means." White either believes the means are acceptable or they are not. Because remember, to White, all that matters is what people are doing. The good life is the one where people behave 'proper' and 'good' to each other, where they recognize the common moral knowledge we have, and use it. What matters is what is happening, not where we get.
I wasn't gonna say it, but now definitely I can say Gwafa isn't even White ideologically. That just really makes me annoyed at the there. It's like they had to make him gold just because he was a legend in this block... like, as you said, we needed to be told where he was from.
That is insulting.
P.S. I hope everyone is with me on knowing what Gwafa's art is going to be.
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Gwafa is good in his own way. Its like trying to compare a Pacifism to a Shock, and saying shock is obviously the better of the two.
If your trying to run a deck that focuses on Aggro you may want to play Cliffrunner Behemoth. If your trying to run a deck that focuses on Control you many want to play Gwafa.
Gwafa goes "I pacify that Darksteel Colossus of yours, but hey, heres a little something for your troubles".
If you can get Gwafa to use his ability more then once it starts becoming a thorn in your opponent's side to the point of using removal against it. I also believe we got that Mark of Asylum card, so that leaves Black as the only color to get rid of Gwafa.
Now if you aren't much of the control person you may consider to place the Cliffrunner in your W/G, R/G, or R/G/W deck just so it can get some benefits from having that 5 power (Spearbreaker Behemoth, Rakeclaw Gargantuan, etc, etc,).
EDIT: Got this from the wizards site: The Skyward Eye was a knightly order devoted to the ideal of righteousness. But the leadership became corrupted, and their values twisted into persecution and intolerance. The knights crusaded against people who didn't uphold the "true" values of Bant, dividing families, castes, and eventually causing war between nations.
Gwafa Hazid is another agent on Bant. He travels on the Grand Caravan, spreading rumors and swindling his fellow citizens whenever he can get away with it. He is one of the few genuinely ambitious people in Bant and embraces his newfound purpose—and potential rewards—with relish.
White never believes "the ends justify the means." White either believes the means are acceptable or they are not. Because remember, to White, all that matters is what people are doing. The good life is the one where people behave 'proper' and 'good' to each other, where they recognize the common moral knowledge we have, and use it. What matters is what is happening, not where we get.
I completely disagree with that. there are more aspects to white then that. As an example there is Konda, Lord of Eiganjo from the kamigawa block. At first he was a great leader that united all of the plains nations. But then he took power to make himself immortal because in his eyes the kingdom needed him forever. However because he took that power the entire world was being destroyed but he felt it was better to hold onto the power because he was the one to put it together so he could do it again.
That is definitly an "ends justifies the meens" mentality and he (and his daughter to show the polar opposite within white) is an example that WotC has used in the past to show the multifacets that can exist in white.
I really don't like the direction they continue to go with creatures. A 5/3 for 4 mana is already over the top, but with those abilities as possible attachments, its ridiculous. To me, Cliffrunner just seems boring, much too powerful for casting cost, and really not a very flavorful/fun card. A card like this should have a drawback.
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Yeah firebrand was kinda bad. no, it was really bad. but i agree, the cliffrunner's leagues better, and i guess 5/3 for 4 that could haste+lifelink under easy circumstances (use hybrid creatures, which red and white have a lot of in spades--hell, figure of destiny enables this thing single-handedly!!!) is really good.
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Agree to disagree then. I see this white in the same vein that Swords to Plowshares and Path to Exile are white. I'm gona do something you don't like, so here have this to make amends.
WTF does that even mean?
I didn't say that theme was not White. I said that for all Gwafa requires to do his work, he shouldn't have so many limitations. He should be stronger. One way (not giving something back), or the other (lasting effect after he dies). Gwafa can be White if they wanna say he is, but the last option is to make the ability not cost a :symw:. They took none.
So moreover, I'm afraid I can't agree to disagree, since I'm not sure we even disagreed.
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This guy is terrible. He should, like, I don't know, have shroud or something. If they just made it target any creature, it would be fine becuase you could draw one card a turn by having him target himself.
I disagree with this guy's colour too. I thought UW guys where paragon's of order for order's sake, not currupt beurecrats. At the most, in my understanding, a UW guy can be a tight ass that doesn't give any compassion were the rules are concered but perhaps my understanding is limited.
AND that Beast is a beatdown in any naya deck, and will see limited off colour play becuase it's a 5/3 for 4 mana.
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How can you possibly give an opponent a card in trade for neutralizing a single creatures?
Now do the bribery counters stop creatures only when Gwafa is in play to declare those "bribery counter rules"? (Even if they work forever, he still sucks hard in any format but limited...)
Stop 1 creature in return for drawing a card??
Yeesh.
In limited it's a good creature, since you only use the ability on their absolute bombs. I'll definitely trade a card for permananently shutting down their hellkite overlord.
Whether its at all useful in limited comes down to whether or not the effect expires after he leaves play. If it does, I'd say he's close to last pick. Maybe not last because his ability might at least stall a game a couple of turns if you can pacify a bomb or two late game. If the effect doesn't expire then he's fairly decent in limited...though card advantage is absolutely KING in limited so I still don't think he's that great.
Whatever you just neutralized should have at least 80% chance of being better than what you just let them draw.
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I guess I took your last post wrong then. To me it sounded like you were saying that his abilities are not white flavored du to it being a trade rather then just enforcing control. I feel that both his flavor and his mechanics seem very white.
Oh I agree that the card has to many limitation put on it. It would be so easy to remove any one of them and make him a very playable card. I imagine that if the spoil is right then he got toned down du to play testing as being too efficient at shutting creatures down and they took it a step too far.
I believe the only requirement of a UW character is that the character poses characteristic that are white aligned and characteristics that are blue aligned though they don't have to be the same characteristics. (if they are 100% shared characteristics it would be hybrid)
In this case i would say the U aspect of him would be the card draw while the white aspect is giving that draw to the person who was just wronged as a meens of retribution.
The shared aspect would be locking down the creature as both white and blue do that.
flavor wise I think he is right on as a UW character
I want to point out that this move is actually genius. Looking at it this way to try and figure out how Wizards was building it, to derive what it will be, is a great move, and I thank and applaud you for bringing that out.
However, I'm afraid that Gwafa is interesting to build around. I can only put myself up as evidence. Despite what I said, I'm still going to try to use him.
Johnny/Spike. Plus I need to prove things to myself.
Thank you for your response, Joystickgenie. The next step to me is to play out the card, and see what it evokes in actual play.
I think one thing understated, and I want to thank Dark draco for this, is how it is still repeatability. Repeatability is itself a commodity. Having that one Pacifism never seems like enough, it seems like bandaging the problem, but never getting ahead... With Gwafa in play, he is of course theoretically a way to continue the shenanigans until they die from not blocking.
This is a very cool option that White-Blue would not otherwise have - which, by the way, I think is the home run for legendary cards: Something in flavour, but very special that's so valuable because of the way it quite works.
So I like the card. And think they made it wrong.
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I like Gwafa, personally. Ill be running him as a one (or two) of in my T2Stag deck. Im already play testing the behemoth on mws, and people are crying imba. It's probably going to single handedly bring back fattie beatdown. Gwafa himself fits into the best two STALL colors in the game- Blue an White. So much widespread lockdown, this guy is just a card advantage (on your side, that is) And makes Pacifism. Players seem to forget how easy it is to keep a creature alive if you actually want to. (Hindering Light, negate, DEFENSIVE countering? Yeah, no cryptic commands, I know!) Passive decks would love this card. (Hoofprints of the Stag is what I have in mind) Nut hey, its not epic counter spell or control aid, so why would anyone here like it?
I wasn't talking about game machanics, I was talking about flavour. Here they decribe Gwafa. (Taken from http://wizards.com/Magic/TCG/Article.aspx?x=mtg/tcg/conflux/flavor2 )
Bant
The Skyward Eye was a knightly order devoted to the ideal of righteousness. But the leadership became corrupted, and their values twisted into persecution and intolerance. The knights crusaded against people who didn't uphold the "true" values of Bant, dividing families, castes, and eventually causing war between nations.
Gwafa Hazid is another agent on Bant. He travels on the Grand Caravan, spreading rumors and swindling his fellow citizens whenever he can get away with it. He is one of the few genuinely ambitious people in Bant and embraces his newfound purpose—and potential rewards—with relish.
Reading that description, I would infer that he is a corrupt toady for Nicol Bolas, and he dosen't precribe to the character traits that I usually acociate with W; i.e. valuing order, and trying to uphold socioty as a whole. He seems to be just in it for himself.
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cause the text said "a creature with a brabery counter can´t attack or block." it´s like a reminder text rather than a static ability from gwafa.
Ok, with that, Yeah, I think he sounds U or even UB. Really it seams they just gave him white because of where he was born.
The only way I can possibly see twisting that to be W is that he is performing these acts in an attempt to complete a greater goal. Like being hard on people to encourage self-reliance and growth in others. Kind of like Jade Empire's way of the closed fist. But that is a way out there twist on logic and goes against "genuinely ambitious"
Gwafa is horrible, the other guy is insane. .......
The Behemoth wins games.
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I wasn't gonna say it, but now definitely I can say Gwafa isn't even White ideologically. That just really makes me annoyed at the there. It's like they had to make him gold just because he was a legend in this block... like, as you said, we needed to be told where he was from.
That is insulting.
P.S. I hope everyone is with me on knowing what Gwafa's art is going to be.
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If your trying to run a deck that focuses on Aggro you may want to play Cliffrunner Behemoth. If your trying to run a deck that focuses on Control you many want to play Gwafa.
Gwafa goes "I pacify that Darksteel Colossus of yours, but hey, heres a little something for your troubles".
If you can get Gwafa to use his ability more then once it starts becoming a thorn in your opponent's side to the point of using removal against it. I also believe we got that Mark of Asylum card, so that leaves Black as the only color to get rid of Gwafa.
Now if you aren't much of the control person you may consider to place the Cliffrunner in your W/G, R/G, or R/G/W deck just so it can get some benefits from having that 5 power (Spearbreaker Behemoth, Rakeclaw Gargantuan, etc, etc,).
EDIT: Got this from the wizards site:
The Skyward Eye was a knightly order devoted to the ideal of righteousness. But the leadership became corrupted, and their values twisted into persecution and intolerance. The knights crusaded against people who didn't uphold the "true" values of Bant, dividing families, castes, and eventually causing war between nations.
Gwafa Hazid is another agent on Bant. He travels on the Grand Caravan, spreading rumors and swindling his fellow citizens whenever he can get away with it. He is one of the few genuinely ambitious people in Bant and embraces his newfound purpose—and potential rewards—with relish.
I completely disagree with that. there are more aspects to white then that. As an example there is Konda, Lord of Eiganjo from the kamigawa block. At first he was a great leader that united all of the plains nations. But then he took power to make himself immortal because in his eyes the kingdom needed him forever. However because he took that power the entire world was being destroyed but he felt it was better to hold onto the power because he was the one to put it together so he could do it again.
That is definitly an "ends justifies the meens" mentality and he (and his daughter to show the polar opposite within white) is an example that WotC has used in the past to show the multifacets that can exist in white.