Long time contributor Nise_Tsuruta_Mentor has posted the following info on his blog earlier today. Thought I 'd post it here so more people could see it.
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Esperzoa2U
Artifact creature - jelyfish (U)
flying
at the bigining of your upkeep,return a artifact you control.
4/3
Extractor Demon4BB
Creature - Demon (R)
Flying
Whenever another creature put into graveyard, you may have"target player put two cards into garveyard from library."
Unearth 2B
5/5
Giltspire AvengerWUG
Creature - human soldier (R)
Exalted
:symtap::destroy target creature that dealt damege to you this turn.
2/2
Cleaning this up a bit, I'd assume the following:
Esperzoa2U
Artifact Creature - Jellyfish (U)
Flying
At the beginning of your upkeep, return an artifact you control to its owner's hand.
4/3
Extractor Demon4BB
Creature - Demon (R)
Flying
Whenever another creature is put into a graveyard from play, you may have target player put the top two cards of his or her library into his or her graveyard.
Unearth 2B
5/5
Giltspire AvengerWUG
Creature - Human Soldier (R)
Exalted
:symtap:: Destroy target creature that dealt damage to you this turn.
2/2
Cool stuff. Esperzoa works nicely with Sanctum Gargoyle for even more recursion.
Extractor demon puts some mill in Black, interesting. I guess the real point is to toss your unearth guys in the bin.
Giltspire Avenger is quite nice. A more feasible Dread. Exalted means you don't have to worry about the fact you're not sending him in the red zone. Overall my favorite of the bunce.
Esperzoa-potentially amazing in limited if you have a high amount of artifacts. Could abuse CIP abilities as well.
Extractor Demon-Limited Bomb, ability is kind of strange. Black mill?
Giltspire Avenger-Potentially great, but has same weakness of cards like Dread, where you have to let them hit you first. Decent to amazing in limited, as its reusable removal but is 3 colors.
You also have Puppet Conjurer's Homunculus tokens to return, cheap capsules, even Relic of Progenitus. And it's an uncommon in a small set that can end games quickly=WOW. BTW, how the hell does a Jellyfish fly?
Um, wow. Esperzoa is a Sea Drake in the right deck. A 4/3 FLYING for 3 mana!? That can't be right. There has to be a sacrifice clause in there...
Then again, even with the sacrifice clause you can bounce an artiface land in extended. In standard it sets you up for 2-for-1s if you're not packing serious artifact heavy decks.
How is Giltspire Avenger Blue or Green in its ability? The card is fine except the casting cost makes no sense at all to me. I get the feeling that it was pulled out of a file, given exalted and had the CC and name changed.
The Demon is ok but I am not sold on its milling ability unless you will be self targeting, that being said I would probably toss one into my Sedris EDH deck.
Esperzoa is nice, cheap flying power with a "drawback" that can be used to your own advantage.
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The Extractor Demon is okay, and it has a good P/T for its cost in black, especially since it flies, but I wonder if it really will find a place.
As for the other two, holy cow, they're both great, especially the jellyfish. New Sea Drake indeed, though I think better really, especially since there are artifacts that want to be picked back up.
Here's hoping they are real.
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Um, wow. Esperzoa is a Sea Drake in the right deck. A 4/3 FLYING for 3 mana!? That can't be right. There has to be a sacrifice clause in there...
Well, if you're unlucky enough to have no other artifacts in play with it, it forces you to bounce itself back to your hand, so that may as well be a sacrifice clause.
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Well, if you're unlucky enough to have no other artifacts in play with it, it forces you to bounce itself back to your hand, so that may as well be a sacrifice clause.
That's true, but it prevents card loss and instead creates tempo loss...
I still feel that a 4/3 flying creature for 2U is way above the curve for blue. Seriously...Sea Drake?
If Esperzoa is real, the very first thing I thought it would fit into was pretty much any legacy Stax deck. A 4/3 flyer I can play on turn 2 that lets me return Tangle Wire to my hand every turn? Where do I sign up?
Didn't think of Sanctum Gargoyle; that's even stupider in limited =-/ I already have issues with Esper recursion...
Esperzoa is frickin fantastic. Almost 100% upside. The combos are almost endless thanks to the depth of Esper, and I'm really hoping to open it pretty much anytime I'm playing blue.
It's definitely constructed-worthy for all sorts of reasons, whether they be strictly card advantage (Sanctum Gargoyle) or older formats, or in some sort of new Stompy/Fish thing. I'm SOOO glad this is Uncommon
Extractor Demon is made for Unearth.dec and is an aggressively costed dragon. Great for limited, poop in constructed.
Giltspire Avenger is cute, but won't be in Bant Control or make an impact anywhere but limited environments.
Still, a constructed powerhouse and two limited bombs, not too shabby
Is there any chance that the Extractor Demon could actually be "whenever a creature goes into a graveyard"? (meaning, sans "from play")
I'm not sure how well the rules handle cards going into the graveyard from places other than play, but it seems a lot more exciting and mill-tastic if it could potentially keep the mill going by milling creatures.
But I guess that would make it a lot stronger than is reasonable?
Is there any chance that the Extractor Demon could actually be "whenever a creature goes into a graveyard"? (meaning, sans "from play")
I'm not sure how well the rules handle cards going into the graveyard from places other than play, but it seems a lot more exciting and mill-tastic if it could potentially keep the mill going by milling creatures.
But I guess that would make it a lot stronger than is reasonable?
It would read "Whenever a creature CARD goes into a graveyard [from anywhere], EFFECT"
This would be a crushing blow to decks that run huge creature counts, except for one thing...the creature that has the effect is 6 mana
Anyways. I still maintain that Esperzoa is serious business, and thank goodness it's uncommon or this thing would be 10$ easy.
Is there any chance that the Extractor Demon could actually be "whenever a creature goes into a graveyard"? (meaning, sans "from play")
I don't think a 5/5 Flying for 6 mana also needs an "Oops, I milled your whole deck with one trigger" ability. It seems balanced as "in play."
It's actually a very smart ability for Grixis / Jund. In Grixis, your Unearth creature goes to the graveyard and you can mill yourself in hopes of putting more Unearth creatures in the graveyard for an overwhelming next turn.
In Jund, you get bonuses for stuff dying. In this case, the bonus is milling your opponent. Get enough triggers and you can potentially win that way.
It works for both Shards in different ways, which is great design.
Esperzoa is utterly sick. Not only is it an undercosted evasive beater, it has a drawback that you can easily turn into an advantage. It's interaction with Sanctum Gargoyle alone is golden. I'm thinking that it's actually good enough for my Cube.
The Demon is OK. It's got a really cheap unearth cost, which is great for pushing through the last 5 points.
Avenger is solid; not amazing but solid. Casting cost is a poor match for his ability. Could've easily been mono W or WG.
Esperzoa... Wow. This card has potential to be truly sick. The mentioned combo with Tangle Wire should keep your opponent mired with no mana until you kill him with your 4/3. In standard, it has Sharuum, the Hegemon to combo with. But I believe all the interactions mentioned so far barely are the tip of the iceberg.
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Esperzoa 2U
Artifact creature - jelyfish (U)
flying
at the bigining of your upkeep,return a artifact you control.
4/3
Extractor Demon 4BB
Creature - Demon (R)
Flying
Whenever another creature put into graveyard, you may have"target player put two cards into garveyard from library."
Unearth 2B
5/5
Giltspire Avenger WUG
Creature - human soldier (R)
Exalted
:symtap::destroy target creature that dealt damege to you this turn.
2/2
Cleaning this up a bit, I'd assume the following:
Esperzoa 2U
Artifact Creature - Jellyfish (U)
Flying
At the beginning of your upkeep, return an artifact you control to its owner's hand.
4/3
Extractor Demon 4BB
Creature - Demon (R)
Flying
Whenever another creature is put into a graveyard from play, you may have target player put the top two cards of his or her library into his or her graveyard.
Unearth 2B
5/5
Giltspire Avenger WUG
Creature - Human Soldier (R)
Exalted
:symtap:: Destroy target creature that dealt damage to you this turn.
2/2
Discuss.
Extractor demon puts some mill in Black, interesting. I guess the real point is to toss your unearth guys in the bin.
Giltspire Avenger is quite nice. A more feasible Dread. Exalted means you don't have to worry about the fact you're not sending him in the red zone. Overall my favorite of the bunce.
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Can anybody confirm whether this is real?
Extractor Demon-Limited Bomb, ability is kind of strange. Black mill?
Giltspire Avenger-Potentially great, but has same weakness of cards like Dread, where you have to let them hit you first. Decent to amazing in limited, as its reusable removal but is 3 colors.
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Then again, even with the sacrifice clause you can bounce an artiface land in extended. In standard it sets you up for 2-for-1s if you're not packing serious artifact heavy decks.
The Demon is ok but I am not sold on its milling ability unless you will be self targeting, that being said I would probably toss one into my Sedris EDH deck.
Esperzoa is nice, cheap flying power with a "drawback" that can be used to your own advantage.
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Here's hoping it's real and spoiled correctly.
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As for the other two, holy cow, they're both great, especially the jellyfish. New Sea Drake indeed, though I think better really, especially since there are artifacts that want to be picked back up.
Here's hoping they are real.
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Ezuri, Renegade Leader (Aggro/Combo - Favorite)
Skullbriar, the Walking Grave (Sac and Grave hijinks)
Azusa, Lost but Seeking (Landfall hijinks)
Kaalia of the Vast (Heavily modded)
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Well, if you're unlucky enough to have no other artifacts in play with it, it forces you to bounce itself back to your hand, so that may as well be a sacrifice clause.
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That's true, but it prevents card loss and instead creates tempo loss...
I still feel that a 4/3 flying creature for 2U is way above the curve for blue. Seriously...Sea Drake?
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Didn't think of Sanctum Gargoyle; that's even stupider in limited =-/ I already have issues with Esper recursion...
If esperzoa is real then he is gonna be played alot! you can easaly turn that drawback into a advantage.
the glitspire avanger is nice too, reciprocate on a stick with exalted on top. he's going to be in the bant theme deck too.
It's definitely constructed-worthy for all sorts of reasons, whether they be strictly card advantage (Sanctum Gargoyle) or older formats, or in some sort of new Stompy/Fish thing. I'm SOOO glad this is Uncommon
Extractor Demon is made for Unearth.dec and is an aggressively costed dragon. Great for limited, poop in constructed.
Giltspire Avenger is cute, but won't be in Bant Control or make an impact anywhere but limited environments.
Still, a constructed powerhouse and two limited bombs, not too shabby
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I'm not sure how well the rules handle cards going into the graveyard from places other than play, but it seems a lot more exciting and mill-tastic if it could potentially keep the mill going by milling creatures.
But I guess that would make it a lot stronger than is reasonable?
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It would read "Whenever a creature CARD goes into a graveyard [from anywhere], EFFECT"
This would be a crushing blow to decks that run huge creature counts, except for one thing...the creature that has the effect is 6 mana
Anyways. I still maintain that Esperzoa is serious business, and thank goodness it's uncommon or this thing would be 10$ easy.
I don't think a 5/5 Flying for 6 mana also needs an "Oops, I milled your whole deck with one trigger" ability. It seems balanced as "in play."
It's actually a very smart ability for Grixis / Jund. In Grixis, your Unearth creature goes to the graveyard and you can mill yourself in hopes of putting more Unearth creatures in the graveyard for an overwhelming next turn.
In Jund, you get bonuses for stuff dying. In this case, the bonus is milling your opponent. Get enough triggers and you can potentially win that way.
It works for both Shards in different ways, which is great design.
The Demon is OK. It's got a really cheap unearth cost, which is great for pushing through the last 5 points.
Avenger is solid; not amazing but solid. Casting cost is a poor match for his ability. Could've easily been mono W or WG.
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