Bob Maher's invitational card

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  • #2
    That's actually a pretty neat little card. Nice job, tourney guy.

    I imagine they changed the ability to something like "At the beginning of your upkeep, reveal the top card of your library. You lose life equal to its converted mana cost, then put it into your hand."
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    I bet R&D changed the mana cost to 4BBB, made him a 0/2 and some sort of "you lose the game" drawback.
    But if not, this guy could be very cool in some sort of Suicide-black. The only problem is, if you play big spells, you will die. Simple as that.
    It's one of those cards that would have been good in an old deck but sucks now kinda cards.
    I give it a 4/10.
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  • #4
    We've know about this for a while it was announced ages ago. That said i'll repeat what i said back then that this is a very nice black weenie card, which gives good card advantage and is also alot easier for black to get rid of than enchantment based drawers like phyrexian arena, necropotence etc.


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  • #5
    Lets look at this situation.

    Phex. Arena: Must Draw a card at upkeep, Lose 1 life.
    Necropotence: May Draw a card at end of turn, Lose 1 life.
    Yawg. Bargin: May Draw a card, Lose 1 life.
    Invitational Card: Must Draw a card at draw phase, Lose 0-13 life.

    They need to make it a LOT better for it to be playable.
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  • #6
    Quote from Alex »
    Lets look at this situation.

    Phex. Arena: Must Draw a card at upkeep, Lose 1 life.
    Necropotence: May Draw a card at end of turn, Lose 1 life.
    Yawg. Bargin: May Draw a card, Lose 1 life.
    Invitational Card: Must Draw a card at draw phase, Lose 0-13 life.

    They need to make it a LOT better for it to be playable.


    Yeah, as proposed that card is horrible. I'm hoping the tweaks made the card going into your hand optional. Such as you can shoose to put it in hand for life equal to CC, or put it in graveyard. However, paying life could still suck a lot.
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  • #7
    I would love if they made it "You may pay X life where X in the cards converted mana cost, and put that card into play."
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  • #8
    Those comparisons are kind of silly. Bargain and Necro are both banned, and IMO this card is better than Arena. Draw a 2500th land? At least you take no damage. It costs only 2 (in current form) and has a body, which is excellent.

    Considering that it's a creature, I'd imagine that this would go into an aggressive deck, where 2 life/turn = extra card/turn... on legs is SO worth it.

    My guess at Wizard's version: 1BB, 2/2, and ability optional.

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  • #9
    I like alex version with the put into play version a lot. It would be a aswome and very cool card. But Goblinboys suggestion would be more likley..

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    The initial submission is not good at all. The imperative is just wrong. I would like to see the optional X/X putting into play... and I agree with Goblinboy about the cc and P/T.
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  • #11
    ...a 2/1 with the ability 'During each upkeep you reveal the top card of your library and must pay life equal to the card's converted casting cost and put it in your hand...


    Each upkeep... just yours or both players' upkeeps?

    Anyhow, i agree with Machius. This is a nice black weenie card... and can be easily removed if you had lost too much life.
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    It's ok , it isn't worst invitational, but it's no meddling mage :p
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    For a black card, in recent times, I consider this very good. However at the same time, I wonder what they've done to butcher it. I have no faith in R&D anymore.

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    I wonder what they've done to butcher it. I have no faith in R&D anymore.



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  • #15
    I think the ability will change to something like this:

    0: Reveal the top card of your library. Lose life equal to its converted mana cost, then put that card into your hand.
  • #16
    The "tweaks" are most like flavor-related. They have adjusted previous cards so that they fit in the block. Remember, they added echo to Darwin Kastle's card, Avalanche Riders, they added Morph to Kai Budde's card (Voidmage Prodigy) and made Jens Thoren's card (Solemn Simulacrum) into an artifact creature. Chances are, they'll add a mechanic that's exclusive to Ravnica to it, or something.
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  • #17
    If the ability is mandatory then you could always use things like Sensei's Diving top to stack the top cards. I think that if the ability is optional then the card is too good. I agree that most likely the changes will be made to fit a block mechanic or theme.
  • #18
    Hi!

    This card should look something like this:

    ~ BB

    Creature

    At the beginning of your upkeep remove the top card of your library from the game. Until end of turn you may pay life equal to that card's converted mana cost to put it into your hand.

    2/1

    The problem with this card is you would like to play it in an aggressive mono black deck - but sticking a game breaking ability to a creature, which's bud isnt even big enough to survive a llanowar elves conforontation isnt really aggresive.
    I'd love to have this card seen in Saviors at cc 3 (1BB) a body of 2/1 and bushido 1.

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    Quote from TheSorcerer »
    Hi!

    This card should look something like this:

    ~ BB

    Creature

    At the beginning of your upkeep remove the top card of your library from the game. Until end of turn you may pay life equal to that card's converted mana cost to put it into your hand.

    2/1

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    That version would be awesome. You could remove the cards you don't want and draw land for free.
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    BB
    0: the next time you would reveal a card at the beginning of your upkeep, instead, reveal that card and lose life equal to its casting cost.
    1/2
  • #21
    I'm happy with it as originally suggested, grammatically adjusted for MTG of course. Play with deck stackers, low-casting cost spells, and life-gain mechanics. I'm all for a Black Weenie aggro deck.
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  • #22
    they said that they had killed alot of players with it, maybe its during each players upkeep that player reveals the top card and pays life

    thats pretty powerful
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    Quote from kingcobweb »
    BB
    0: the next time you would reveal a card at the beginning of your upkeep, instead, reveal that card and lose life equal to its casting cost.
    1/2


    wow thats bad. Grin

    I don't think you guys understand the power of this card. This is a cheaper creature phyrexian arena. You say you lose more life? not really..
    20-24 draws cost 0 life (land)
    8-12 draws cost 1 life (discard, ritual, etc)

    Thats already more than half the deck. In a black sui deck, the life loss will be negligible and even if it works for only one turn, its better than Phyrexian rager, which is already a solid creature. I don't think theres another card outside of howling mine that gives you a free extra card every turn for 2 or less mana (not counting library). BB for a 2/1 is solid, and this creature will win more games by not fighting than by fighting because the card advantage is too insane. Its like a reverse hypnotic specter.

    I predict: up to 1BB, 2/2 or 2/1 and another ability. Its too fast otherwise.
    Last edited by aurorasparrow: 3/14/2005 10:09:54 PM
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  • #24
    Yeah, I think aurorasparrow's right - folks aren't realizing just how shiny this card is. Personally, I'm even looking forward to it from a casual perspective, although I doubt that I'll be able to afford it. :slant: In the right deck, this card is absolutely wonderful...

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  • #25
    Quote from Belgareth »
    It's ok , it isn't worst invitational, but it's no meddling mage :p


    Let's just wait till wizards gets done with it first. It could become the next kai card or it could become something much better.

    It's not too bad right now, as it would see alot of play in Legacy and maybe Vintage but that's about it. Maybe:
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