It’s now acurring to me about the orginal mirrodin story
memnarch was killed after being way to corrupted by the phyrexian oil
Karn trust the mirari with slobad, glissa and geth
but here’s the thing slobad is dead and more importantly glissa and geth are both compleated which means they are phyrexians they were the ones trusted with it and now they are phyrexians
It's weird isn't it? Slobad, Geth, and Glissa "had" the mirari, but went their separate ways. Slobad lost to goblins, Geth was just a head incapable of holding the Mirari, and Glissa went into some kind of coma? I guess that means it's probably likely that the goblins have the Mirari. It would explain the huge physical changes in goblin appearance in between Fifth Dawn and Scars, though the oil would change many of them further. Did they relinquish it to Urabrask? Did they feed it to the Great Furnace (Can they?)
Glissa , Slobad , and Bosh are Rachelè , Wayne , and Douglas
Okay, I’ll bite. Who are Rachelle, Wayne, and Douglas.
You seem to be very fixated on finding links between the lore of MTG and it’s supposed literary, philosophical, and mythological inspirations… but you aren’t very good at explaining it.
If you want to argue that a link exists, what you would preferably want to do is to be very straightforward regarding what you are referring to (including a direct link to the primary source material, if needed), explain the link you are trying to draw, and articulate why you think that Wizards or a story writer is trying to make that link based on what specific commonalities between the story and the “source”.
Begging in mind that your argument would need to be clear and convincing enough to overcome Occam’s Razor (that there are just a finite number of dramatic situations and that they may repeat by coincidence without direct inspiration) and the potential problem that an intentional reference made by one writer may be missed or eschewed by other writers down the road, making it effectively non-cannon with regards to predicting where the story moves from this point onward.
To be clear, you would need to do this EVERY TIME for EVERY LINK if you want to be taken seriously. There is no magical point of RP trust where you get to list a few names and assert that sowething is true and expect others to do the homework with nothing but three out-of-context names.
Without the specific information, people cannot see or infer your line of thought and you end up looking a bit odd (if for no other reason than that you expect people to know the names).
RoseBot , you seem to be under the impression that you deserve my time and effort
Then why?
Why make posts with allusions that nobody seems to get? Why make cryptic statements and assertions and get frustrated that the board is “hostile” toward that when you don’t bother to lay out your explanation?
If you want to be taken seriously, you can explain yourself. If you don’t explain yourself and aren’t taken seriously, though, you kind of forfeit the right to complain about it later.
....Geth’s head sat next to a perfect silver sphere the size of the elf girl’s fist in a large silver chest lines with a soft purple material.... “Okay, okay,” Geth said. “Who else am I going to tell? There was a golem. Said to make sure you got the ball.” “Bosh?” Slobad gasped. “Bosh is alive?” “Don’t be stupid,” Geth said. “This golem was big and quicksilver, as you well know. Like he was melting and frozen at the same time. Friendly fellow. Said that you two were supposed to hold onto that ball for him, and he’d come back. You’re supposed to wait for him, if you want. And one more thing. Two, really. Lift me up.”....Slobad leaned over and scooped up the silver ball. He looked at it for a long moment, then tucked it into his satchel. Then he slowly closed the lid on the chest.
-Herndon, Cory. The Fifth Dawn: Mirrodin Cycle, Book III . Wizards of the Coast Publishing. Kindle Edition.
....When Glissa and her goblin ally Slobad returned to the surface, they were set upon by hordes of panicked goblins. Slobad fell, and Glissa retreated back into the interior, where the tiny constructs that still scurried there kept her safe, sound, and sleeping ...
I have not read Quest for Karn, as I had sort of had my fill of Mirrodin Novels with the three books in the original cycle, so I have no idea is Slobad is referenced again in any capacity, or if anything is mentioned with the Mirari.
That said: We know for a fact that Memnites still exist, and at the end of The Fifth Dawn, Slobad has demonstrated the ability to understand, and (formerly) mentally control them, as he was responsible for the massive network of them that made Memnarch's spark harvesting machine. There's honestly a distinct possibility that, even if Slobad's body died, he's still around in some capacity. The brief blurb about Mirrodin from 2008 is also remarkably void of material. It says Slobad "fell," but that doesn't necessarily mean that he died. Additionally, there's a distinct chance that the Mirari, which is a sentient being, may be still alive in some capacity, and possibly even protecting itself.
If it did end up in Goblin hands, though, the most likely place it would be now is the Great Furnace, which is honestly terribly convenient given the story as it currently is.
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memnarch was killed after being way to corrupted by the phyrexian oil
Karn trust the mirari with slobad, glissa and geth
but here’s the thing slobad is dead and more importantly glissa and geth are both compleated which means they are phyrexians they were the ones trusted with it and now they are phyrexians
It's weird isn't it? Slobad, Geth, and Glissa "had" the mirari, but went their separate ways. Slobad lost to goblins, Geth was just a head incapable of holding the Mirari, and Glissa went into some kind of coma? I guess that means it's probably likely that the goblins have the Mirari. It would explain the huge physical changes in goblin appearance in between Fifth Dawn and Scars, though the oil would change many of them further. Did they relinquish it to Urabrask? Did they feed it to the Great Furnace (Can they?)
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memnarch died the mirari popped out after that and karn enlisted the 3 I mentioned to watch it 2 of them became phyrexians and the 3rd died
No , they do not have the Mirari . They barely have their own heads screwed on .
-Irini Sengir
Okay, I’ll bite. Who are Rachelle, Wayne, and Douglas.
You seem to be very fixated on finding links between the lore of MTG and it’s supposed literary, philosophical, and mythological inspirations… but you aren’t very good at explaining it.
If you want to argue that a link exists, what you would preferably want to do is to be very straightforward regarding what you are referring to (including a direct link to the primary source material, if needed), explain the link you are trying to draw, and articulate why you think that Wizards or a story writer is trying to make that link based on what specific commonalities between the story and the “source”.
Begging in mind that your argument would need to be clear and convincing enough to overcome Occam’s Razor (that there are just a finite number of dramatic situations and that they may repeat by coincidence without direct inspiration) and the potential problem that an intentional reference made by one writer may be missed or eschewed by other writers down the road, making it effectively non-cannon with regards to predicting where the story moves from this point onward.
To be clear, you would need to do this EVERY TIME for EVERY LINK if you want to be taken seriously. There is no magical point of RP trust where you get to list a few names and assert that sowething is true and expect others to do the homework with nothing but three out-of-context names.
Without the specific information, people cannot see or infer your line of thought and you end up looking a bit odd (if for no other reason than that you expect people to know the names).
-Irini Sengir
Then why?
Why make posts with allusions that nobody seems to get? Why make cryptic statements and assertions and get frustrated that the board is “hostile” toward that when you don’t bother to lay out your explanation?
If you want to be taken seriously, you can explain yourself. If you don’t explain yourself and aren’t taken seriously, though, you kind of forfeit the right to complain about it later.
-Irini Sengir
-Herndon, Cory. The Fifth Dawn: Mirrodin Cycle, Book III . Wizards of the Coast Publishing. Kindle Edition.
- Planes of Existence: Mirrodin
I have not read Quest for Karn, as I had sort of had my fill of Mirrodin Novels with the three books in the original cycle, so I have no idea is Slobad is referenced again in any capacity, or if anything is mentioned with the Mirari.
That said: We know for a fact that Memnites still exist, and at the end of The Fifth Dawn, Slobad has demonstrated the ability to understand, and (formerly) mentally control them, as he was responsible for the massive network of them that made Memnarch's spark harvesting machine. There's honestly a distinct possibility that, even if Slobad's body died, he's still around in some capacity. The brief blurb about Mirrodin from 2008 is also remarkably void of material. It says Slobad "fell," but that doesn't necessarily mean that he died. Additionally, there's a distinct chance that the Mirari, which is a sentient being, may be still alive in some capacity, and possibly even protecting itself.
If it did end up in Goblin hands, though, the most likely place it would be now is the Great Furnace, which is honestly terribly convenient given the story as it currently is.