So, since the 2014 set had returning characters (and they were popular), I'm opening this to speculate on the possible returning characters for Commander 2015. I'll update this front page as suggestions come in, but please, post characters who have not gotten cards that might fit into one of these decks.
Note that the color combos I'm putting them in are pure speculation.
Creative has recently spoken about supplemental products dovetailing nicely with current story happenings, so I wouldn't be surprised to see some characters from the Origins stories or maybe even the past Zendikar block to show up.
I am not sure we know enough about the Raven Man for him to be used, but he could be in the WB slot.
I would love to see Cacophany, God of Cities get a card, but I'm not sure what colors fit best.
I updated it a bit with some suggestions from another thread. Many are pretty obivous. I put Kallist as WR because he was a swordsman. Ashnod is there because she reminds me of Nin, and she's an artificer. Tawnos is UG because he's an artificer, but mimics nature.
I don't have any ideas who a returning BG character could be.
I really want feather. I feel we really need someone who will fit the UR artifact theme. As for the others, we may want to try to speculate where they may narrow in on deck wise, what will they do, and who can they associate with it. Realistically we can expect a few characters we don't know which may be the Green Black legendary. As for black/white, I feel the only real themes they could do would be recursion, Drain life, or blow it up. Boros is clearly combat trick aggro (which I love), or gimmicky redirect cards. Green/black is all over the place, and maybe a death matters deck with blood artist, sac outlet, and regrowth effects. simic is another tricky one. I can't help but feel a permission based commander. For the deck theme, maybe a polymorph evolution deck or a counters matter type thing like most simic commanders, making vorel the most likely reprint commander in that sense
In terms of returning BG characters who never got a card there's Colfenor and Myczil Savod Zunich. A Colfenor card could play into the GB "toughness matters" subtheme from Tarkir block, which could be fun.
Why black red for crucius? He was crazy, so I can see red being there, but he's definitely blue. If you must give him a color combination, it has to be at least Red/Blue. Both are also the artifact colors, and he's probably the greatest Artificer around since he created Etherium. He didn't exhibit any Black traits.
Red/White for Kallist equally doesn't work. He definitely has white, but Red is what sticks out. The things he did were because of his loyalty to Jace, born of their friendship, and not because of impulse or some other emotion. There's also the fact that Jace managed to teach him some minor Blue spells since that's the only thing he had any aptitude in. Also, White is the color for soldiers, which Kallist is. Blue/White seems the color combo for him. Red is most likely as a tertiary color.
Why black red for crucius? He was crazy, so I can see red being there, but he's definitely blue. If you must give him a color combination, it has to be at least Red/Blue. Both are also the artifact colors, and he's probably the greatest Artificer around since he created Etherium. He didn't exhibit any Black traits.
He's an Esper shard Sphinx, so White-Black just makes the most sense. I'd also be okay with Red-Blue as the artificer for that color, as he's an artificer who works with Dragon's Blood. Actually, that makes more sense, I've moved him.
Red/White for Kallist equally doesn't work. He definitely has white, but Red is what sticks out. The things he did were because of his loyalty to Jace, born of their friendship, and not because of impulse or some other emotion. There's also the fact that Jace managed to teach him some minor Blue spells since that's the only thing he had any aptitude in. Also, White is the color for soldiers, which Kallist is. Blue/White seems the color combo for him. Red is most likely as a tertiary color.
Right, but I'm fitting them into a mold for the Commander 2015 product, in which the White-Red deck makes most sense. It doesn't necessarily mean HE is R/W. And according to Maro, Red is strong emotional bonds, which include loyalty.
Do we know if the commanders will be creatures or planeswalkers?
All Commander decks so far had three commanders each: one reprint and two new cards. In 2014 each deck had one planeswalker, one new legend and one reprint legend.
So, assuming they aren't pulling something completely out of the left field (and we just can't guess what), each deck is probably getting either two legends or one legend and one planeswalker. They (or at least some) being old characters with no cards isn't confirmed either, but it is a good guess based on how well the idea was received last year.
Why black red for crucius? He was crazy, so I can see red being there, but he's definitely blue.
Do we know if he was really crazy, or is it just how others described him?
In Test of Metal, Crucius was so sane that he's crazy. That's the best way I can put it. His craziness comes from him being way too smart and the average joe would perceive that as insanity.
Perhaps RUW is a better fit for him. W also is an artifact color, even if its focus is just Equipment.
I always want Serra back. Serra back now, Serra back for the future, Serra back forever. I don't care about Armada comic cannon, Deus Ex Machina her back somehow. So what if she doesn't fit into enemy decks either? Just make it happen!
In Test of Metal, Crucius was so sane that he's crazy. That's the best way I can put it. His craziness comes from him being way too smart and the average joe would perceive that as insanity.
Perhaps RUW is a better fit for him. W also is an artifact color, even if its focus is just Equipment.
W is more than equipment, at least on Esper.
I also wouldn't rely heavily on Test of Metal. With all the clockworking, it's likely an alternate timeline at best (if not just straight up retconned) as everything from how Tezz went to Mirrodin to Jace's control of the Consortium have been retconned in later media.
Crucius' character may be similar to his depiction here (unless Stover was given free reign). I think it's safe to say, due to the dubious nature of Test of Metal, that Crucius could be anything.
How is Ashnod not B/R (Mayyybe B/R/U)? I don't think she fits at all.
Also I'd argue Xantcha is R/B as well.
Don't overthink it, I was putting them in the deck, not saying they're necessarily just those colors. Potentially we could just get a one color general (kind of like how the three color decks had two color generals) Xantcha was just one of those off the top of my head.
Ashnod I'll stand by, as she seems like a Nin, the Pain Artist type, and she's an artificer. RU isn't unreasonable for her, although she probably deserves to be more Grixis, I agree.
Ashnod seems decidedlyB - but then, so does Nin, so I guess UR could work.
About Nin "Despite her famed career, Nin does not see herself as a torturer. Nin seeks to awaken a deeper consciousness within her "clients" by exploring their personal limits. She believes every nerve ending is a pathway to self-knowledge."
Ashnod seems decidedlyB - but then, so does Nin, so I guess UR could work.
About Nin "Despite her famed career, Nin does not see herself as a torturer. Nin seeks to awaken a deeper consciousness within her "clients" by exploring their personal limits. She believes every nerve ending is a pathway to self-knowledge."
It's honestly difficult to think of more potential U/G characters. Care to explain your justification for Tawnos?
Tawnos' creations were inspired by nature and used by nature mages later. Stuff like Magus of the Candelabra point to him being at least partially green, due to how he worked nature into his devices. The blue is because he's still an artificer.
I also think it'd be an interesting direction for the color combo. The (original) Simic were all about biotechnology, and we've seen that green can include artifacts (Phyrexia), so I think it's a reasonable leap for UG to care about nature-based artifacts.
I wouldn't see Xantcha as RB, but rather BW. She could withstand mental intrusions which is a display of good mental discipline and had genuine compassion towards Ratepe and Urza, even at the height of his madness, to the point of sacrifice to save his life. All of this looks white to me.
In a similar vein, I wouldn't be displeased to see Belbe on a card. Phyrexians carefully assembled for a precise who come to renounce the very purpose of Phyrexia are certainly something unique.
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Note that the color combos I'm putting them in are pure speculation.
WB: Edgar Markov, Pivlic, Raven Man, Xantcha, Zagorka
WR: Feather, Kallist, General Varchild
UR: Ashnod, Glacian, Crucius (Also potentially WB)
UG: Tawnos
GB: Colfenor, Myc, Belbe, Svogthir
Bo Levar and Commodore Gruff would both be RU, but I think it's unlikely we'll see pre-mending walkers here.
Also, as you can tell I'm pulling for a UR artifacts-matter legend.
Note: They legends here would only need to match one of the colors, although two is preferred.
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I am not sure we know enough about the Raven Man for him to be used, but he could be in the WB slot.
I would love to see Cacophany, God of Cities get a card, but I'm not sure what colors fit best.
I don't have any ideas who a returning BG character could be.
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Red/White for Kallist equally doesn't work. He definitely has white, but Red is what sticks out. The things he did were because of his loyalty to Jace, born of their friendship, and not because of impulse or some other emotion. There's also the fact that Jace managed to teach him some minor Blue spells since that's the only thing he had any aptitude in. Also, White is the color for soldiers, which Kallist is. Blue/White seems the color combo for him. Red is most likely as a tertiary color.
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Right, but I'm fitting them into a mold for the Commander 2015 product, in which the White-Red deck makes most sense. It doesn't necessarily mean HE is R/W. And according to Maro, Red is strong emotional bonds, which include loyalty.
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Also, my vote goes to Colfenor as a BG commander, though I could also see him as mono-black.
Honestly, the characters I'm pulling for are Edgar Markov, Feather, Ashnod/Crucius, Tawnos and Colfenor.
It'd be nice to see Ashnod and Tawnos get the Feldon treatment, and they make sense for their colors.
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Do we know if he was really crazy, or is it just how others described him?
All Commander decks so far had three commanders each: one reprint and two new cards. In 2014 each deck had one planeswalker, one new legend and one reprint legend.
So, assuming they aren't pulling something completely out of the left field (and we just can't guess what), each deck is probably getting either two legends or one legend and one planeswalker. They (or at least some) being old characters with no cards isn't confirmed either, but it is a good guess based on how well the idea was received last year.
In Test of Metal, Crucius was so sane that he's crazy. That's the best way I can put it. His craziness comes from him being way too smart and the average joe would perceive that as insanity.
Perhaps RUW is a better fit for him. W also is an artifact color, even if its focus is just Equipment.
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I also wouldn't rely heavily on Test of Metal. With all the clockworking, it's likely an alternate timeline at best (if not just straight up retconned) as everything from how Tezz went to Mirrodin to Jace's control of the Consortium have been retconned in later media.
Crucius' character may be similar to his depiction here (unless Stover was given free reign). I think it's safe to say, due to the dubious nature of Test of Metal, that Crucius could be anything.
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Also I'd argue Xantcha is R/B as well.
Ashnod I'll stand by, as she seems like a Nin, the Pain Artist type, and she's an artificer. RU isn't unreasonable for her, although she probably deserves to be more Grixis, I agree.
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Please reread The Brother's War and then tell me with a straight face that she isn't black.
About Nin "Despite her famed career, Nin does not see herself as a torturer. Nin seeks to awaken a deeper consciousness within her "clients" by exploring their personal limits. She believes every nerve ending is a pathway to self-knowledge."
Ashnod is absolutely nothing like that.
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I also think it'd be an interesting direction for the color combo. The (original) Simic were all about biotechnology, and we've seen that green can include artifacts (Phyrexia), so I think it's a reasonable leap for UG to care about nature-based artifacts.
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In a similar vein, I wouldn't be displeased to see Belbe on a card. Phyrexians carefully assembled for a precise who come to renounce the very purpose of Phyrexia are certainly something unique.