1. Nicol Bolas is like the Darth Vitiate of Magic: the Gathering. Maybe even the Xendor. (Most Powerful Evil Planeswalker/First Evil Planeswalker)
2. Ugin is clearly Vodo-Siosk Baas, Yoda, and the Whills wrapped up in one.
3. Urza is Nick Fury. Kinda. And Obi-Wan Kenobi. Mishra is a much less powerful Anakin Skywalker.
4. The way I see it, there are ultimately Three Threats to the Multiverse: The Eldrazi (Almost the Most Powerful Threat I've ever heard of in fiction. Thanos with the Infinity
Gauntlet might not want to meet the Eldrazi, they're at least as Powerful as Celestials); Phyrexia//New Phyrexia-- Yawgmoth's Phyrexia was crazy powerful, New Phyrexia might be less so but the heroes are less powerful in that future too. And Nicol Bolas. Who, as I Said, is effectively the Sith Emperor of MTG.
I have written frequent letters to Wizards saying that plane-hopping and having a bunch of plane-centric stories (Lorwyn, Ravnica, Kamigawa, Alara, Innistrad) is all well and good, but every once in a while they add a new Multiverse-level Threat to the Everything.
So far, only Old Phyrexia has been Beaten. By Urza's Avengers/Coalition/Legacy.
It is clear to me that they have some plan to reunite Ugin and Sorin at some future point, and that Karn, Liberated is at least going to try to do whatever he can to repeat the feat of his Creator.
That leaves Nicol Bolas as the only person against whom, up until Fate Reforged Spoilers, I didn't think there was any hope against.
The curious way that Ugin's Ultimate is almost a perfect Light-sided Mirror of Nicol Bolas', and his Converted Mana Cost is the same as Bolas', convinces me that a returned-from-the-dead Ugin just on his own might be exactly what the rest of the Planeswalkers need to fight Bolas. I don't know how, where, or when, but Ugin is probably going to Showdown with Nicol Bolas and win, and that will finish off Bolas for good.
Then Karn still needs to make a New Coalition against New Phyrexia, and Everyone needs to worry about the Eldrazi.
All of the small pictures on each individual plane will work themselves out. Alara Reborn may have a few more wars in its history to work out, but the Knights of New Alara will be there to win them. Innistrad may still have Demons on it, but Avacyn has Returned. All of those issues are as resolved as they're going to get.
But the Big Three, which I don't think will be joined a Fourth anytime soon, are Bolas, the Eldrazi, and Phyrexia. And Ugin's card is proof enough that scales are slowly, but heavily, tipping toward the Light. With Ugin and Karn both out there, people like Ajani and Jace and Nissa and Sorin and Kiora and Tezzeret and Sarkhan will have some serious powerhouses to center their efforts behind. Karn is The Hulk, Ugin is Thor, now we're just about ready to face the Universe.
Expect the end of Tarkir Block to look like Alara or Innistrad or worse-- the Clans and the Dragons are happier when they're killing things anyway.
I am probably every color-combination it is possible to be, though it's really hard to figure out what it would mean to be 4-colored....it doesn't seem logical to be 4-colored without being 5-colored.
The curious way that Ugin's Ultimate is almost a perfect Light-sided Mirror of Nicol Bolas', and his Converted Mana Cost is the same as Bolas', convinces me that a returned-from-the-dead Ugin just on his own might be exactly what the rest of the Planeswalkers need to fight Bolas. I don't know how, where, or when, but Ugin is probably going to Showdown with Nicol Bolas and win, and that will finish off Bolas for good.
The amusing thing about the card comparison though is that no matter how you slice it, Ugin can't take down Bolas.
If Bolas is on the field and Ugin drops, he can do 3 damage to Bolas, which is enough to offset his first loyalty gain, but at 7 loyalty, Ugin doesn't have enough loyalty to exile Bolas. Meanwhile, if Ugin is on the field and Bolas drops Bolas just... kills him. Immediately.
I do find the ultimate mirror to be a little insubtly over the top, I won't lie. They really wanted to drive home the point that the two are counterparts, but the rest of their abilities show a clear example that Bolas dominates Ugin.
If Ugin just reseals the Eldrazi for study, it will reduce the number of plots going on.
I don't buy that Bolas is stronger than Ugin in an absolute sense. I think they share a relationship similar to Old Ben Kenobi and Darth Vader.
It just so happens that Ben forfeited on the Death Star. I don't think Ugin forfeited on Tarkir in the same way, but I think he is very very close to Bolas' equal just
I am probably every color-combination it is possible to be, though it's really hard to figure out what it would mean to be 4-colored....it doesn't seem logical to be 4-colored without being 5-colored.
I don't think Ugin forfeited on Tarkir in the same way, but I think he is very very close to Bolas' equal just
the same, and in some ways is his superior.
The problem is Bolas has an ace up his sleeve. His touch destroys the ability to think. All it takes is one touch and all thought is scoured from someone's brain until he stops.
Taking advantage of the general pan Asian influences of the block my idea here is that Ugin is defeated but his spirit lives on in Sarkhan, essentially reincarnating the dragon with the two sharing a consciousness. Sarkhan has a dragon to revere and learn from and in turn this dragon grants him some serious REAL power. The past doesn't really change and the storms return because Sarkhan houses the essence and energy of Ugin now, if not his body.
I disagree. Wizards knew what they were doing when they announced that this (fate reforged) would have a time travel element. Because of this statement combined with the Ob Nixilis Black M14 Commander deck leads me to think that many parts of history will be changed. Not everything will be changed because of Sarkhan's actions, but I do believe that many will. Also a bit of a side-note here. Not sure if there are any "good" dragons/ dragon planeswalkers because Nicol Bolas kind of shattered that belief for me.
I disagree. Wizards knew what they were doing when they announced that this (fate reforged) would have a time travel element. Because of this statement combined with the Ob Nixilis Black M14 Commander deck leads me to think that many parts of history will be changed. Not everything will be changed because of Sarkhan's actions, but I do believe that many will. Also a bit of a side-note here. Not sure if there are any "good" dragons/ dragon planeswalkers because Nicol Bolas kind of shattered that belief for me.
I usually like to let the story play out issues like these, rather than answer explicitly outside the text, but I think there’s been more anxiety about how we’re handling this story than we wanted. So here’s the rule of time travel we were assuming for this block: Altering the history of Tarkir only alters Tarkir.
In other words, we are not using the events of Tarkir to massively retcon the last 1280 years of Magic continuity across the entire Multiverse.
It was also our assumption, though, that planeswalkers who visited Tarkir sometime between 1280 years ago and now could experience time-travel-altered events and act differently on other planes due to those changed events — essentially, that planeswalkers were a way to transmit time-travel changes outside of Tarkir. That created some interesting story challenges, and I think you’ll see how we handled them as the story develops. For now, please continue to enjoy visiting Tarkir’s past. We’re getting to see a crucial, life-or-death tipping point in Tarkir’s history, when clans battle with dragons for survival, and a certain spirit dragon still lives — for now.
While they admit some changes happening, everything indicates that "many" would be a VERY serious overstatement.
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Alright. You got me. Picky over the word many then? Well let me correct that saying that Wizards COULD make many changes. They will make a few changes for sure but I also didn't know about that article either. Ty for putting the link up for me to check out.
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2. Ugin is clearly Vodo-Siosk Baas, Yoda, and the Whills wrapped up in one.
3. Urza is Nick Fury. Kinda. And Obi-Wan Kenobi. Mishra is a much less powerful Anakin Skywalker.
4. The way I see it, there are ultimately Three Threats to the Multiverse: The Eldrazi (Almost the Most Powerful Threat I've ever heard of in fiction. Thanos with the Infinity
Gauntlet might not want to meet the Eldrazi, they're at least as Powerful as Celestials); Phyrexia//New Phyrexia-- Yawgmoth's Phyrexia was crazy powerful, New Phyrexia might be less so but the heroes are less powerful in that future too. And Nicol Bolas. Who, as I Said, is effectively the Sith Emperor of MTG.
I have written frequent letters to Wizards saying that plane-hopping and having a bunch of plane-centric stories (Lorwyn, Ravnica, Kamigawa, Alara, Innistrad) is all well and good, but every once in a while they add a new Multiverse-level Threat to the Everything.
So far, only Old Phyrexia has been Beaten. By Urza's Avengers/Coalition/Legacy.
It is clear to me that they have some plan to reunite Ugin and Sorin at some future point, and that Karn, Liberated is at least going to try to do whatever he can to repeat the feat of his Creator.
That leaves Nicol Bolas as the only person against whom, up until Fate Reforged Spoilers, I didn't think there was any hope against.
The curious way that Ugin's Ultimate is almost a perfect Light-sided Mirror of Nicol Bolas', and his Converted Mana Cost is the same as Bolas', convinces me that a returned-from-the-dead Ugin just on his own might be exactly what the rest of the Planeswalkers need to fight Bolas. I don't know how, where, or when, but Ugin is probably going to Showdown with Nicol Bolas and win, and that will finish off Bolas for good.
Then Karn still needs to make a New Coalition against New Phyrexia, and Everyone needs to worry about the Eldrazi.
All of the small pictures on each individual plane will work themselves out. Alara Reborn may have a few more wars in its history to work out, but the Knights of New Alara will be there to win them. Innistrad may still have Demons on it, but Avacyn has Returned. All of those issues are as resolved as they're going to get.
But the Big Three, which I don't think will be joined a Fourth anytime soon, are Bolas, the Eldrazi, and Phyrexia. And Ugin's card is proof enough that scales are slowly, but heavily, tipping toward the Light. With Ugin and Karn both out there, people like Ajani and Jace and Nissa and Sorin and Kiora and Tezzeret and Sarkhan will have some serious powerhouses to center their efforts behind. Karn is The Hulk, Ugin is Thor, now we're just about ready to face the Universe.
Expect the end of Tarkir Block to look like Alara or Innistrad or worse-- the Clans and the Dragons are happier when they're killing things anyway.
People need to read this fanfiction, though:
www.hpmor.com
I am probably every color-combination it is possible to be, though it's really hard to figure out what it would mean to be 4-colored....it doesn't seem logical to be 4-colored without being 5-colored.
If Bolas is on the field and Ugin drops, he can do 3 damage to Bolas, which is enough to offset his first loyalty gain, but at 7 loyalty, Ugin doesn't have enough loyalty to exile Bolas. Meanwhile, if Ugin is on the field and Bolas drops Bolas just... kills him. Immediately.
I do find the ultimate mirror to be a little insubtly over the top, I won't lie. They really wanted to drive home the point that the two are counterparts, but the rest of their abilities show a clear example that Bolas dominates Ugin.
I don't buy that Bolas is stronger than Ugin in an absolute sense. I think they share a relationship similar to Old Ben Kenobi and Darth Vader.
It just so happens that Ben forfeited on the Death Star. I don't think Ugin forfeited on Tarkir in the same way, but I think he is very very close to Bolas' equal just
the same, and in some ways is his superior.
People need to read this fanfiction, though:
www.hpmor.com
I am probably every color-combination it is possible to be, though it's really hard to figure out what it would mean to be 4-colored....it doesn't seem logical to be 4-colored without being 5-colored.
Sorry to burst your bubble, pal, but no.
http://dougbeyermtg.tumblr.com/post/107288733454/i-love-time-travel-stories-but-time-travel-in-the
While they admit some changes happening, everything indicates that "many" would be a VERY serious overstatement.
Let this great clan rest in peace (2001-2011)