Yeah I don't understand the sentiment of "story didn't get us from point A to point B" being a waste of time either. It's a story. It's there to entertain. It shows us the world. Heck, literally all stories from original Mirrodin to Tarkir have been "one-off-stories". And that was fine. Personally I prefer that approach to the gatewatch anyway. The Magic setting and game format simply doesn't lend itself as easily to a character-driven narration as to environment-driven narration.
If we can't have faith in their ability to find game space outside of her minimal restrictions, then I guess we can panic.
I don't have faith in their ability to find her game space outside of being a Generic G/R that has a DFC mechanic.
An off-world Arlinn card would look exactly like her on-world card, minus the DFC aspect. The reason she would be "another G/R planeswalker" is because mechanically she IS a fairly generic G/R walker, even in her werewolf affiliated card form.
hey the only interesting mechanic she had would be removed, which is my exact reasoning why we will never see her outside of Innistrad because being a DFC was her only theme.
Yeah, and Huatli isn't tied down mechanically to her plane either.... what cuz she makes a dinosaur token?
Her entire character is built as Dinosaur Knight.
Yeah I don't understand the sentiment of "story didn't get us from point A to point B" being a waste of time either. It's a story. It's there to entertain. It shows us the world. Heck, literally all stories from original Mirrodin to Tarkir have been "one-off-stories". And that was fine. Personally I prefer that approach to the gatewatch anyway. The Magic setting and game format simply doesn't lend itself as easily to a character-driven narration as to environment-driven narration.
In almost any other situation I would tend to agree, however we have between 10 and 20 short stories depending on how the blocks come down going forwards, they really don't have the story space to spend on dumb things that don't matter to the plot.
I have my criticisms of Amonkhet, but on the whole, I found it to be an improvement over several blocks preceding it.
a 2/10 story is a 100% increase in quality over a 1/10 story, doesn't mean it is good, Ixilan is only plot since the new paradigm that I can say I have actually liked, Kaladesh was okay, the rest have been outright crap.
Oath of Vraska is something I'd like to see and I think that the story is heading towards that direction.
I really wish we got an Oath of Angrath though. I mean, imagine the possibilities
On a more serious note, does anyone else think that Angrath might end up as a minion of Bolas?
To be fair we only seen Angrath being pissed that Ixalan is keeping him trapped, we don't know his personality outside of this. Chandra for example is a "hero" character who I'd see acting in similar fashion if she had been the one who got trapped. Hard to tell if he join the Gatewatch, join Bolas or just leave and be done with Ixalan.
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Oath of Vraska is something I'd like to see and I think that the story is heading towards that direction.
I really wish we got an Oath of Angrath though. I mean, imagine the possibilities
On a more serious note, does anyone else think that Angrath might end up as a minion of Bolas?
To be fair we only seen Angrath being pissed that Ixalan is keeping him trapped, we don't know his personality outside of this. Chandra for example is a "hero" character who I'd see acting in similar fashion if she had been the one who got trapped. Hard to tell if he join the Gatewatch, join Bolas or just leave and be done with Ixalan.
I'd say pissed is a bit of an understatement though. Chandra might be impulsive but I dont think she'd intentionally set out to burn the place to the ground. He is called the Dread Pirate Angrath for a reason.
Angrath seems willing to work with others if that would take him off Ixalan. It looks like all the walkers will meet at Orazca and depending who Bolas's associate is and whether Ajani actually shows up, deals might be struck and sides might be formed.
Is there any chance Jace is under Bolas control? i mean it isnt that far fetched to assume Lord Nicolas may have put a trigger in Jace's head that would turn Jace into one of his minions, idk about you guys, but i doubt the fact that Jace ended up in Ixalan is just a coincidence.
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Oath of Vraska is something I'd like to see and I think that the story is heading towards that direction.
I really wish we got an Oath of Angrath though. I mean, imagine the possibilities
On a more serious note, does anyone else think that Angrath might end up as a minion of Bolas?
I wish the story weren't heading that direction, I think Vraska is a more interesting character when she's off doing her own thing and you get occasional glimpses of it. Not every well-written sympathetic character has to join the Gatewatch; it cheapens both those characters and the Gatewatch. They did right by Tamiyo, I wish they'd give Vraska the same treatment.
The most interesting implication of Vraska taking an Oath for me depends on what the Gatewatch will do with Liliana. Imagine this juicy love triangle.
Edit: on that note, why does lil Jace keep falling for manipulative women/gorgons?
Jace keeps falling for the best women. I'm not fond of Jace as a character, but if he's going to keep falling in with ladies like Lili and Vraska, I'll take more Jace in my Magic
Oath of Vraska is something I'd like to see and I think that the story is heading towards that direction.
I really wish we got an Oath of Angrath though. I mean, imagine the possibilities
On a more serious note, does anyone else think that Angrath might end up as a minion of Bolas?
To be fair we only seen Angrath being pissed that Ixalan is keeping him trapped, we don't know his personality outside of this. Chandra for example is a "hero" character who I'd see acting in similar fashion if she had been the one who got trapped. Hard to tell if he join the Gatewatch, join Bolas or just leave and be done with Ixalan.
I'd say pissed is a bit of an understatement though. Chandra might be impulsive but I dont think she'd intentionally set out to burn the place to the ground. He is called the Dread Pirate Angrath for a reason.
Let me rephrase, I see pre-purifying fire Chandra would act similar, burning and destorying things in fruition.
Oath of Vraska is something I'd like to see and I think that the story is heading towards that direction.
I really wish we got an Oath of Angrath though. I mean, imagine the possibilities
On a more serious note, does anyone else think that Angrath might end up as a minion of Bolas?
I wish the story weren't heading that direction, I think Vraska is a more interesting character when she's off doing her own thing and you get occasional glimpses of it. Not every well-written sympathetic character has to join the Gatewatch; it cheapens both those characters and the Gatewatch. They did right by Tamiyo, I wish they'd give Vraska the same treatment.
Because Tamiyo personality doesn't mesh up with what the Gatewatch is doing. She'd rather sit back, watch and record, not play a role in the story. She will lend a hand but doesn't want to involved personally. How they are writing Vraska now she is much more of an active party and wanting to fix injustices for those forgotten by the higher up and might see the gatewatch as a way to do that.
I agree that not every character should join the gatewatch but so far both the additions of Ajani and the possibility of Vraska are both characters who seem to naturally fit into it.
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A thought I’ve been having, what if Vraska isn’t the first walker Bolas sent to find Orazca? Bolas wouldn’t want to go and potentially get trapped, but he’d have no problem sending minions until someone succeeded. Angrath could be a former minion who failed to find the eternal sun, has given up, and now wants to leave (a very BR attitude). I wouldn’t put it past Bolas to send a new walker every few decades until someone got him what he wanted. On that note, major theory-crafting upcoming.
Bolas wants the sun, but wont risk getting trapped. So he sends a minion, the vampire pw Elenda, to get it for him. She succeeds in retrieving it from Ixilan, but loses it to “a winged beast” (Ugin?) daunted by the prospect of having to voyage after it again, she allies w/ a local monarch to form the legion of dusk, introduces vampirism to Torrezon and, under the guise of a religious mandate, uses the legion as a means to an end towards finding the sun for Bolas. In the time she takes to do all this, Bolas has grown tired of waiting and assumes Elenda failed. He finds a young Angrath (and maybe even other walkers we don’t know about in a long succession) and offers the deal “go here, find the city and i’ll give you ___”. After a couple decades or so, Bolas gives up on Angrath and makes the offer to his latest pw dupe, Vraska.
Probably totally off base but I think it would be a cool back plot that ties a lot of threads together and makes for some great story moments. Especially for Vraska (Bolas didnt think i was special? I was just the latest?)
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Is there any chance Jace is under Bolas control? i mean it isnt that far fetched to assume Lord Nicolas may have put a trigger in Jace's head that would turn Jace into one of his minions, idk about you guys, but i doubt the fact that Jace ended up in Ixalan is just a coincidence.
It's been posited before, but I don't think that's the case. Vraska specifically calls out that the spell Bolas gave her to contact his agent crosses between planes, and that she didn't even know it was possible for a spell to do that. As that's the case, there would be no reason to send his Agent to Ixalan until Vraska locates the object, that just leaves hiom with TWO trapped minions.
Now, he DID give her the spell before the confrontation with the Gatewatch, but it's also made clear that when Bolas faced off the with GW that straight up murdering them WAS an option. You wouldn't generally murder an agent in the middle of a mission. Beyond that, Jace simply doesn't possess a means of moving plane-bound items off world.
A thought I’ve been having, what if Vraska isn’t the first walker Bolas sent to find Orazca? Bolas wouldn’t want to go and potentially get trapped, but he’d have no problem sending minions until someone succeeded. Angrath could be a former minion who failed to find the eternal sun, has given up, and now wants to leave (a very BR attitude). I wouldn’t put it past Bolas to send a new walker every few decades until someone got him what he wanted. On that note, major theory-crafting upcoming.
Bolas wants the sun, but wont risk getting trapped. So he sends a minion, the vampire pw Elenda, to get it for him. She succeeds in retrieving it from Ixilan, but loses it to “a winged beast” (Ugin?) daunted by the prospect of having to voyage after it again, she allies w/ a local monarch to form the legion of dusk, introduces vampirism to Torrezon and, under the guise of a religious mandate, uses the legion as a means to an end towards finding the sun for Bolas. In the time she takes to do all this, Bolas has grown tired of waiting and assumes Elenda failed. He finds a young Angrath (and maybe even other walkers we don’t know about in a long succession) and offers the deal “go here, find the city and i’ll give you ___”. After a couple decades or so, Bolas gives up on Angrath and makes the offer to his latest pw dupe, Vraska.
Probably totally off base but I think it would be a cool back plot that ties a lot of threads together and makes for some great story moments. Especially for Vraska (Bolas didnt think i was special? I was just the latest?)
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Except that if Bolas was afraid to get trapped then how did Ugin, approximately equal to Bolas in power, get off the plane? Also more than 1200 years seems like a long time for Bolas to wait for Elenda to succeed. I mean presumably Angrath isn't an oldwalker or if he is there's no reason to think he has some special longevity he wouldnt have been sent back then. Remember that Ugin was locked in his here on casing until 6 or so months ago then spent that time recovering and dealing with the Eldrazi. So for Ugin to have been the one to snatch the Sun it would have had to have been before his loss to Bolas during FRF. I'm personally pretty sure Angrath is a wild card here. Not a current agent of Bolas, just came to Ixalan by chance and is now pissed that he cant get off.
Assuming the eternal sun can be used to exit the plane (which I am since im pretty sure thats how Jace and maybe Vraska will get away) Ugin used that to leave after he retrieved it from Elenda. Agreed that Angrath isnt an old walker. If my theory is right (which again it’s very unlikely) i would guess Angrath to be just one of the latest in a long line of dupes.
I agree though that i think he will probably just be a free agent and my whole idea holds no water
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Angrath probably isn't an old walker simply due to the fact he hasn't aged to death. I don't think Minotaur get long lives like elves and dwarves.
Ohh ooh Wild Guess time.
Angrath is a completely civilized normal guy who would like normally sit around drinking tea and reading Charles Dickens..except he went stir crazy cause he can't leave.
Angrath probably isn't an old walker simply due to the fact he hasn't aged to death. I don't think Minotaur get long lives like elves and dwarves.
Ohh ooh Wild Guess time.
Angrath is a completely civilized normal guy who would like normally sit around drinking tea and reading Charles Dickens..except he went stir crazy cause he can't leave.
Age to death? It's only been 60 years or so since the mending happened. Granted he doesn't seem like he's particularly old, but you don't need to have any special longevity to have survived since the Mending provided you weren't too old when it happened.
Angrath probably isn't an old walker simply due to the fact he hasn't aged to death. I don't think Minotaur get long lives like elves and dwarves.
Ohh ooh Wild Guess time.
Angrath is a completely civilized normal guy who would like normally sit around drinking tea and reading Charles Dickens..except he went stir crazy cause he can't leave.
After thinking on the Immortal Sun and its importance to Ixalan and its possible powers, I'm thinking Bolas wants it for himself, not the Planar Bridge or Eternals. I have a feeling that while the Sun is an immense power source, it will be the city of Orazca that is the only way off the plane. My working theory is that the Sun also gives off a powerful, passive regen/longevity effect that keeps those around it healthy and whole. I came to this after thinking on the ancient nobles of Torrezon turning to vampirism after the Sun's theft. They were so used to the power of living as long as they wanted, they didn't want to give that up. So with that in mind, Bolas would want the Sun as it would be a means of restoring more of his power while granting him an additional layer of protection/invulnerability. I would really enjoy seeing the Immortal Sun take the place of the gem between Bolas' horns, upping the stakes for the next confrontation. Just some of my thoughts, I could be totally off.
The ironic thing about all this Gatewatch talk is, aren't they (creative) trying to minimize their presence overall?
Nope. On the creative side we won't be see every member showing up as a big group like we have. The Gatewatch are the protagonists and while we might get small stories that not have them in it or having them play more of a background, over all we will be we will get more gatewatch storylines then not.
To expand on this, the Gatewatch will continue to be our story protagonists for the foreseeable future, it's their presence on cards that is being pulled back on. Players were getting tired of Gatewatch members automaticaly eating half of all possible planeswalker slots in the physical product. (And having entire hand worth of versions in standard at one time.)
I'm thinking they are going to take the MCU approach: split these guys up and do more stories focused on individual development, all of which building up to the next big GateWatch throwdown - most likely a rematch with Bolas. this way when you have your next big Gatewatch story, it will resonate more since you haven't seen them all fighting together in a while.
EDIT - I posted that before i saw the Admin's post telling us to stick to Ixalan. my bad.
so let me say this to tie it in: if this were the MCU, Ixalan would be Iron Man 3.Jace, Like Tony, is forced to survive without all of his "toys" and has to grow and adapt as a character separate of his superteam buddies. and the next storyarc (Dominaria) we're assuming is going to be centered around Ajani but feature a bunch of other major characters, a la Cap's WinterSoldier movie.
Do you guys think it could be possible that it was Bolas who left the sun one the plane instead of Ugin? The anti-planeswalking spell could just be a way to ensure it doesn't get moved without his approval.
Do you guys think it could be possible that it was Bolas who left the sun one the plane instead of Ugin? The anti-planeswalking spell could just be a way to ensure it doesn't get moved without his approval.
I mean if that were the case why would Bolas send someone else to get it?
Angrath probably isn't an old walker simply due to the fact he hasn't aged to death. I don't think Minotaur get long lives like elves and dwarves.
Ohh ooh Wild Guess time.
Angrath is a completely civilized normal guy who would like normally sit around drinking tea and reading Charles Dickens..except he went stir crazy cause he can't leave.
Age to death? It's only been 60 years or so since the mending happened. Granted he doesn't seem like he's particularly old, but you don't need to have any special longevity to have survived since the Mending provided you weren't too old when it happened.
And Yet Lili who presumably always kept herself in the 20s or 30s was gonna die of old age soon, and I can't find a consistent source of Minotaur aging in any setting much less MTG, the numbers go from anywhere from 80ish to 200+ years.
Angrath probably isn't an old walker simply due to the fact he hasn't aged to death. I don't think Minotaur get long lives like elves and dwarves.
Ohh ooh Wild Guess time.
Angrath is a completely civilized normal guy who would like normally sit around drinking tea and reading Charles Dickens..except he went stir crazy cause he can't leave.
Age to death? It's only been 60 years or so since the mending happened. Granted he doesn't seem like he's particularly old, but you don't need to have any special longevity to have survived since the Mending provided you weren't too old when it happened.
And Yet Lili who presumably always kept herself in the 20s or 30s was gonna die of old age soon, and I can't find a consistent source of Minotaur aging in any setting much less MTG, the numbers go from anywhere from 80ish to 200+ years.
Lilliana spent decades trying to regain the power she lost in the Mending, so 40 or 50 years before she went to Bolas, and I doubt necromancy is kind to the body. Anagrath most likey is just someone who took a wrong turn at Shandalar
Angrath probably isn't an old walker simply due to the fact he hasn't aged to death. I don't think Minotaur get long lives like elves and dwarves.
Ohh ooh Wild Guess time.
Angrath is a completely civilized normal guy who would like normally sit around drinking tea and reading Charles Dickens..except he went stir crazy cause he can't leave.
Age to death? It's only been 60 years or so since the mending happened. Granted he doesn't seem like he's particularly old, but you don't need to have any special longevity to have survived since the Mending provided you weren't too old when it happened.
And Yet Lili who presumably always kept herself in the 20s or 30s was gonna die of old age soon, and I can't find a consistent source of Minotaur aging in any setting much less MTG, the numbers go from anywhere from 80ish to 200+ years.
Lilliana spent decades trying to regain the power she lost in the Mending, so 40 or 50 years before she went to Bolas, and I doubt necromancy is kind to the body. Anagrath most likey is just someone who took a wrong turn at Shandalar
Yes but the point is, it has been decades since the mending and most races that aren't elves or dwarves or dragons would likely be going towards their twilight years if they had been on stuck on Ixalan since before the mending.
Edit : I also do want to note again, it doesn't seem like Ixalan was set up to be an old walker trap simply because it isn't a wasteland, and Angry Old Walker unable to get out of a plane they walked into at random is a recipe for Terminator future land.
I don't have faith in their ability to find her game space outside of being a Generic G/R that has a DFC mechanic.
hey the only interesting mechanic she had would be removed, which is my exact reasoning why we will never see her outside of Innistrad because being a DFC was her only theme.
Her entire character is built as Dinosaur Knight.
In almost any other situation I would tend to agree, however we have between 10 and 20 short stories depending on how the blocks come down going forwards, they really don't have the story space to spend on dumb things that don't matter to the plot.
a 2/10 story is a 100% increase in quality over a 1/10 story, doesn't mean it is good, Ixilan is only plot since the new paradigm that I can say I have actually liked, Kaladesh was okay, the rest have been outright crap.
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I really wish we got an Oath of Angrath though. I mean, imagine the possibilities
On a more serious note, does anyone else think that Angrath might end up as a minion of Bolas?
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To be fair we only seen Angrath being pissed that Ixalan is keeping him trapped, we don't know his personality outside of this. Chandra for example is a "hero" character who I'd see acting in similar fashion if she had been the one who got trapped. Hard to tell if he join the Gatewatch, join Bolas or just leave and be done with Ixalan.
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I'd say pissed is a bit of an understatement though. Chandra might be impulsive but I dont think she'd intentionally set out to burn the place to the ground. He is called the Dread Pirate Angrath for a reason.
Angrath seems willing to work with others if that would take him off Ixalan. It looks like all the walkers will meet at Orazca and depending who Bolas's associate is and whether Ajani actually shows up, deals might be struck and sides might be formed.
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Edit: on that note, why does lil Jace keep falling for manipulative women/gorgons?
I wish the story weren't heading that direction, I think Vraska is a more interesting character when she's off doing her own thing and you get occasional glimpses of it. Not every well-written sympathetic character has to join the Gatewatch; it cheapens both those characters and the Gatewatch. They did right by Tamiyo, I wish they'd give Vraska the same treatment.
Jace keeps falling for the best women. I'm not fond of Jace as a character, but if he's going to keep falling in with ladies like Lili and Vraska, I'll take more Jace in my Magic
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Let me rephrase, I see pre-purifying fire Chandra would act similar, burning and destorying things in fruition.
Because Tamiyo personality doesn't mesh up with what the Gatewatch is doing. She'd rather sit back, watch and record, not play a role in the story. She will lend a hand but doesn't want to involved personally. How they are writing Vraska now she is much more of an active party and wanting to fix injustices for those forgotten by the higher up and might see the gatewatch as a way to do that.
I agree that not every character should join the gatewatch but so far both the additions of Ajani and the possibility of Vraska are both characters who seem to naturally fit into it.
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Bolas wants the sun, but wont risk getting trapped. So he sends a minion, the vampire pw Elenda, to get it for him. She succeeds in retrieving it from Ixilan, but loses it to “a winged beast” (Ugin?) daunted by the prospect of having to voyage after it again, she allies w/ a local monarch to form the legion of dusk, introduces vampirism to Torrezon and, under the guise of a religious mandate, uses the legion as a means to an end towards finding the sun for Bolas. In the time she takes to do all this, Bolas has grown tired of waiting and assumes Elenda failed. He finds a young Angrath (and maybe even other walkers we don’t know about in a long succession) and offers the deal “go here, find the city and i’ll give you ___”. After a couple decades or so, Bolas gives up on Angrath and makes the offer to his latest pw dupe, Vraska.
Probably totally off base but I think it would be a cool back plot that ties a lot of threads together and makes for some great story moments. Especially for Vraska (Bolas didnt think i was special? I was just the latest?)
/Sorry for long post
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It's been posited before, but I don't think that's the case. Vraska specifically calls out that the spell Bolas gave her to contact his agent crosses between planes, and that she didn't even know it was possible for a spell to do that. As that's the case, there would be no reason to send his Agent to Ixalan until Vraska locates the object, that just leaves hiom with TWO trapped minions.
Now, he DID give her the spell before the confrontation with the Gatewatch, but it's also made clear that when Bolas faced off the with GW that straight up murdering them WAS an option. You wouldn't generally murder an agent in the middle of a mission. Beyond that, Jace simply doesn't possess a means of moving plane-bound items off world.
Except that if Bolas was afraid to get trapped then how did Ugin, approximately equal to Bolas in power, get off the plane? Also more than 1200 years seems like a long time for Bolas to wait for Elenda to succeed. I mean presumably Angrath isn't an oldwalker or if he is there's no reason to think he has some special longevity he wouldnt have been sent back then. Remember that Ugin was locked in his here on casing until 6 or so months ago then spent that time recovering and dealing with the Eldrazi. So for Ugin to have been the one to snatch the Sun it would have had to have been before his loss to Bolas during FRF. I'm personally pretty sure Angrath is a wild card here. Not a current agent of Bolas, just came to Ixalan by chance and is now pissed that he cant get off.
I agree though that i think he will probably just be a free agent and my whole idea holds no water
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Ohh ooh Wild Guess time.
Angrath is a completely civilized normal guy who would like normally sit around drinking tea and reading Charles Dickens..except he went stir crazy cause he can't leave.
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Age to death? It's only been 60 years or so since the mending happened. Granted he doesn't seem like he's particularly old, but you don't need to have any special longevity to have survived since the Mending provided you weren't too old when it happened.
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I'm thinking they are going to take the MCU approach: split these guys up and do more stories focused on individual development, all of which building up to the next big GateWatch throwdown - most likely a rematch with Bolas. this way when you have your next big Gatewatch story, it will resonate more since you haven't seen them all fighting together in a while.
EDIT - I posted that before i saw the Admin's post telling us to stick to Ixalan. my bad.
so let me say this to tie it in: if this were the MCU, Ixalan would be Iron Man 3.Jace, Like Tony, is forced to survive without all of his "toys" and has to grow and adapt as a character separate of his superteam buddies. and the next storyarc (Dominaria) we're assuming is going to be centered around Ajani but feature a bunch of other major characters, a la Cap's WinterSoldier movie.
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I mean if that were the case why would Bolas send someone else to get it?
And Yet Lili who presumably always kept herself in the 20s or 30s was gonna die of old age soon, and I can't find a consistent source of Minotaur aging in any setting much less MTG, the numbers go from anywhere from 80ish to 200+ years.
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Yes but the point is, it has been decades since the mending and most races that aren't elves or dwarves or dragons would likely be going towards their twilight years if they had been on stuck on Ixalan since before the mending.
Edit : I also do want to note again, it doesn't seem like Ixalan was set up to be an old walker trap simply because it isn't a wasteland, and Angry Old Walker unable to get out of a plane they walked into at random is a recipe for Terminator future land.
Dragons of Legend, Lead by Scion of the UR-Dragon
The Gitrog Monster
Gonti, Lord of Luxury
Shogun Saskia
Hive World
Atraxa hates fun
Abzan