Tishana's statement is that the River Heralds (as a people) were on Ixalan first.
Also, taking Orazca would simultaneously be both a great boon and a great burden to the River Heralds. Sure, it has a lot of power, but it's also a great big target. And for the Merfolk who have been surviving and fighting off the Sun Empire by guerilla tactics, suddenly having to hold and defend a city puts them in what would normally be an unfavorable position that is only counteracted by the city's inherent power. If they actually took the city, I'd expect the River Heralds' territories to shrink drastically as they dedicate most of their resources to keeping the city out of the Sun Empire's hands. This is reflected in the alternate ending as Tishana plans to gather the other Merfolk in the city and settle it permanently, only considering leaving the city personally once all the other Merfolk were brought there.
And, as I pointed out last time you brought this up, if Kumena had his way, Azor would have taken the sun and used it to rule Ixalan (the plane) with an iron fist (as he planned to do if the River Heralds failed to keep Orazca hidden).
Plus, with the immortal sun gone, the merfolk don't have much need to prevent the city from falling into the wrong hands. Sure, it's still a source of power, but not even remotely as much as the immortal sun. Due to the connection to the land, Tishana (and the other merfolk) must have felt that the city lost the bulk of its power and departed, as there is no more need to keep it hidden.
I do have to agree though, I'm not a big fan of how Kumena was handled. Or rather not handled? He had two lines controlling the city before being thrown out a window. And that's it. Even before that, all we had was a spat with Tishana and then Kumena became an abstract quest objective. Hrmph.
Kumena actually held the city for several hours, at least. His "Seize the city, get overthrown" scene painted events like they happened very fast, in a matter of minutes, but subsequent stories make it clear that really hours went by, the sun moving in the sky, between the time that Orazca was raised and the moment Huatli and Tishana entered the city, and when Tishana caught Kumena falling from the tower. Maybe it just felt like a few minutes to Kumena, drunk as he was on the Immortal Sun's power.
According to the art book, Kumena was supposed to have wielded the Immortal Sun (that is, we were originally supposed to see its power in action) raining down storms and throwing obstacles in the path of the Vampire, Pirate, and Sun armies even as they skirmished each other and raced through the city toward the temple. He was the "Tyrant of Orazca," and his card name itself refers to this reign he was supposed to have. Why the online fictions decided to kneecap their villain's story the way they did (and in the first scene of RIX, no less) is a completely dumbfounding choice to me. Kumena was a great character in the making. Villainous, in his way, but with a realistic personality and understandable, perhaps even sympathetic motivations.
Edit: I will agree, though, that when you step back and really look at how the whole online story played out, Kumena comes out looking much better than Tishana. More like a failed hero than the misguided villain the writers were probably aiming for.
And this made things inherently problematic in terms of making each faction equally sympathetic to the storytellers.
Fixing that for you. The audience that has a right to be ofended aren't, the Legion is the most popular faction in Mexico.
We have a constant and close relationship with our mesoamerican past, the Sun Empire is nothing we haven't seen before (and it's treated with the same infantilizing "noble savages" crap as always). But we can never show any pride for the other half of our heritage least west-coast left-leaning Americans lose their ***** like first graders who heard soomeone curse for the first time.
Mexicans are descendants of conquistadors and the Aztec empire were the villains of the story, that's why 40-60k native american warriors sided with Cortez.
The people upset and surprised at the emperor's disposition for violent expansionism should read some mesoamerican history because that's the most accurate depiction of Aztec nobility in media to this date. It just missed a lot of religious and racist justifications for why eating other people's hearts is ok.
And this made things inherently problematic in terms of making each faction equally sympathetic to the storytellers.
Fixing that for you. The audience that has a right to be ofended aren't, the Legion is the most popular faction in Mexico.
We have a constant and close relationship with our mesoamerican past, the Sun Empire is nothing we haven't seen before (and it's treated with the same infantilizing "noble savages" crap as always). But we can never show any pride for the other half of our heritage least west-coast left-leaning Americans lose their ***** like first graders who heard soomeone curse for the first time.
Mexicans are descendants of conquistadors and the Aztec empire were the villains of the story, that's why 40-60k native american warriors sided with Cortez.
The people upset and surprised at the emperor's disposition for violent expansionism should read some mesoamerican history because that's the most accurate depiction of Aztec nobility in media to this date. It just missed a lot of religious and racist justifications for why eating other people's hearts is ok.
Exactly. Thank you. I'm pretty tired of the European history shaming. History just is what it is. At least they did Elenda right.
Anyhow, I like that the ending demonstrates that anyone with power can become corrupt. As soon as the emperor was put in a favorable position, he became the enemy. And when Elenda appeared, the Vampires are the ones who show the promise of changing for the better. So the tides turn. It's not about the culture or race, it's all about integrity. The Sun Empire's leader lacks it. Elenda on the other hand is a deity worthy of reverence and embodies honor. So we can see the impact of a leader's integrity on the whole of their respective empires now, and I quite admire that contrast and tension for the return. Hope the Vampires make it out on top. They're definitely my favorite.
And this made things inherently problematic in terms of making each faction equally sympathetic to the storytellers.
Fixing that for you. The audience that has a right to be ofended aren't, the Legion is the most popular faction in Mexico.
We have a constant and close relationship with our mesoamerican past, the Sun Empire is nothing we haven't seen before (and it's treated with the same infantilizing "noble savages" crap as always). But we can never show any pride for the other half of our heritage least west-coast left-leaning Americans lose their ***** like first graders who heard soomeone curse for the first time.
Mexicans are descendants of conquistadors and the Aztec empire were the villains of the story, that's why 40-60k native american warriors sided with Cortez.
The people upset and surprised at the emperor's disposition for violent expansionism should read some mesoamerican history because that's the most accurate depiction of Aztec nobility in media to this date. It just missed a lot of religious and racist justifications for why eating other people's hearts is ok.
Exactly. Thank you. I'm pretty tired of the European history shaming. History just is what it is. At least they did Elenda right.
Anyhow, I like that the ending demonstrates that anyone with power can become corrupt. As soon as the emperor was put in a favorable position, he became the enemy. And when Elenda appeared, the Vampires are the ones who show the promise of changing for the better. So the tides turn. It's not about the culture or race, it's all about integrity. The Sun Empire's leader lacks it. Elenda on the other hand is a deity worthy of reverence and embodies honor. So we can see the impact of a leader's integrity on the whole of their respective empires now, and I quite admire that contrast and tension for the return. Hope the Vampires make it out on top. They're definitely my favorite.
To me, Elenda's actions make no sense.She decides she needs to guard the immortal sun so somehow she becomes a vampire. Then she spreads it to the nobility, builds a cult with her at the centre all in order to teach them "humility". Because making powerhungry monsters like Vona immortal is really humbling. And then she takes off and leaves them. Then she finds the sun... And goes to sleep for a thousand years. Azor at least had the decency to stay awake while guarding the sun.
She wakes up and sees the sun is gone. "Oh well I might as well go back to Torezon".
Sadly for me she is another Ixalan character that was wasted utterly.
And this made things inherently problematic in terms of making each faction equally sympathetic to the storytellers.
Fixing that for you. The audience that has a right to be ofended aren't, the Legion is the most popular faction in Mexico.
We have a constant and close relationship with our mesoamerican past, the Sun Empire is nothing we haven't seen before (and it's treated with the same infantilizing "noble savages" crap as always). But we can never show any pride for the other half of our heritage least west-coast left-leaning Americans lose their ***** like first graders who heard soomeone curse for the first time.
Mexicans are descendants of conquistadors and the Aztec empire were the villains of the story, that's why 40-60k native american warriors sided with Cortez.
The people upset and surprised at the emperor's disposition for violent expansionism should read some mesoamerican history because that's the most accurate depiction of Aztec nobility in media to this date. It just missed a lot of religious and racist justifications for why eating other people's hearts is ok.
Not only all of that, it makes the story boring and predictable, we all knew that the Sun Empire was going to have all it's shades of grey completely ignored and that the vampires were going to be portrayed as evil.
And this made things inherently problematic in terms of making each faction equally sympathetic to the storytellers.
Fixing that for you. The audience that has a right to be ofended aren't, the Legion is the most popular faction in Mexico.
We have a constant and close relationship with our mesoamerican past, the Sun Empire is nothing we haven't seen before (and it's treated with the same infantilizing "noble savages" crap as always). But we can never show any pride for the other half of our heritage least west-coast left-leaning Americans lose their ***** like first graders who heard soomeone curse for the first time.
Mexicans are descendants of conquistadors and the Aztec empire were the villains of the story, that's why 40-60k native american warriors sided with Cortez.
The people upset and surprised at the emperor's disposition for violent expansionism should read some mesoamerican history because that's the most accurate depiction of Aztec nobility in media to this date. It just missed a lot of religious and racist justifications for why eating other people's hearts is ok.
Not only all of that, it makes the story boring and predictable, we all knew that the Sun Empire was going to have all it's shades of grey completely ignored and that the vampires were going to be portrayed as evil.
Looks like the opposite will be true in the return (whenever that happens).
Looks like the opposite will be true in the return (whenever that happens).
You have more faith than I do, I expect Vona to be in charge of the Dusk Legion when we return and the first thing we see is Elenda crucified because she tried to reform the Vampires.
Looks like the opposite will be true in the return (whenever that happens).
You have more faith than I do, I expect Vona to be in charge of the Dusk Legion when we return and the first thing we see is Elenda crucified because she tried to reform the Vampires.
I fully expect a vampire civil war with Vona+Queen Miralda vs Elenda+Mavren Fein, complicated by the arrival of Sun Empire armies/etc.
Yes!! A civil war and a continental war going on at the same time just to have the brazen coalition swoop in to reclaim their territory after everyone killed each other lol.
But who will represent G in all of this? The sun empire would pretty much be WR at this point. Maybe Kumena would lose his mind about losing Orazca to the empire and chase them to the other side of the plane to get revenge?
I fully expect a vampire civil war with Vona+Queen Miralda vs Elenda+Mavren Fein, complicated by the arrival of Sun Empire armies/etc.
Yes!! A civil war and a continental war going on at the same time just to have the brazen coalition swoop in to reclaim their territory after everyone killed each other lol.
But who will represent G in all of this? The sun empire would pretty much be WR at this point. Maybe Kumena would lose his mind about losing Orazca to the empire and chase them to the other side of the plane to get revenge?
Well, reasonably the Sun Empire can't go out to conquer Torrezon until their hold on Ixalan is complete. And it wouldn't be complete if they left the merfolk alone; so they would have to be driven out, possibly joining the pirates. Would be interesting to see a switch up of the faction's colors, BGR Dinosaurs, WUG Pirates/merfolk, WR and BU vamps.
So in this site's latest flavor article, one of the creators of the Ixalan storyline says this:
Ixalan is structured as a farce. A farce is built on physical humor, clambering characters, exaggeration and horseplay. After the serious nature of Amonkhet, we wanted to deliver a completely different tone, hence the farcical structure. The plot doesn’t really matter in a farce – what matters is the characters and the relationships between them, and that was true in Ixalan; the point isn’t the race, it’s the themes. Power is rewarded with punishment in a farce, and our two most powerful characters in the narrative (Kumena and Azor) are rewarded for their hubris with comic defeats. Kumena in particular had a comically short reign because in a farce, he’s the comically incompetent character – the bodacious up-and-comer who thinks he is a great revolutionary, only to be cut short by literally being thrown out the window. There are plenty of other fun tropes to play with, too! Angrath is the furious and tone-deaf patriarch, Huatli is the naïve youth, Mavren Fein is the obnoxious puritan, and what happens to Jace and Vraska is a play on the trope of lovers with mistaken identities. Playing with genre in fantasy is fun, and opened up new spaces we wouldn’t have found without approaching it with farcical playfulness.
So if anybody was wondering about the decisions they made with storytelling ....and Why Kumena, Azor and Vona got PWNED so comically... this should explain things a bit.
So in this site's latest flavor article, one of the creators of the Ixalan storyline says this:
Ixalan is structured as a farce. A farce is built on physical humor, clambering characters, exaggeration and horseplay. After the serious nature of Amonkhet, we wanted to deliver a completely different tone, hence the farcical structure. The plot doesn’t really matter in a farce – what matters is the characters and the relationships between them, and that was true in Ixalan; the point isn’t the race, it’s the themes. Power is rewarded with punishment in a farce, and our two most powerful characters in the narrative (Kumena and Azor) are rewarded for their hubris with comic defeats. Kumena in particular had a comically short reign because in a farce, he’s the comically incompetent character – the bodacious up-and-comer who thinks he is a great revolutionary, only to be cut short by literally being thrown out the window. There are plenty of other fun tropes to play with, too! Angrath is the furious and tone-deaf patriarch, Huatli is the naïve youth, Mavren Fein is the obnoxious puritan, and what happens to Jace and Vraska is a play on the trope of lovers with mistaken identities. Playing with genre in fantasy is fun, and opened up new spaces we wouldn’t have found without approaching it with farcical playfulness.
So if anybody was wondering about the decisions they made with storytelling ....and Why Kumena, Azor and Vona got PWNED so comically... this should explain things a bit.
your thoughts?
I think that if those events were going to be treated comically, and were meant to be perceived comically, then the rest of the set did a poor job of setting the proper tone for them.
Little of the Ixilan story came across as comical, so treating those key moments as such just felt disjointed and out of place.
So in this site's latest flavor article, one of the creators of the Ixalan storyline says this:
Ixalan is structured as a farce. A farce is built on physical humor, clambering characters, exaggeration and horseplay. After the serious nature of Amonkhet, we wanted to deliver a completely different tone, hence the farcical structure. The plot doesn’t really matter in a farce – what matters is the characters and the relationships between them, and that was true in Ixalan; the point isn’t the race, it’s the themes. Power is rewarded with punishment in a farce, and our two most powerful characters in the narrative (Kumena and Azor) are rewarded for their hubris with comic defeats. Kumena in particular had a comically short reign because in a farce, he’s the comically incompetent character – the bodacious up-and-comer who thinks he is a great revolutionary, only to be cut short by literally being thrown out the window. There are plenty of other fun tropes to play with, too! Angrath is the furious and tone-deaf patriarch, Huatli is the naïve youth, Mavren Fein is the obnoxious puritan, and what happens to Jace and Vraska is a play on the trope of lovers with mistaken identities. Playing with genre in fantasy is fun, and opened up new spaces we wouldn’t have found without approaching it with farcical playfulness.
So if anybody was wondering about the decisions they made with storytelling ....and Why Kumena, Azor and Vona got PWNED so comically... this should explain things a bit.
your thoughts?
WotC again shows to be an broken company with terrible inter-department communication.
The card art and flavor texts have little to no levity, and the art book isn't much more joyful. The fact that they apparently had to both shine a spotlight and try to make shadow of the whole oh so "delicate" colonialism themes of the set doesn't help either.
MaRo should take these people with him to write for a Roseanne revival if they all want to write comedy so much they're willing to ignore everyone else's work in the same project.
So in this site's latest flavor article, one of the creators of the Ixalan storyline says this:
Ixalan is structured as a farce. A farce is built on physical humor, clambering characters, exaggeration and horseplay. After the serious nature of Amonkhet, we wanted to deliver a completely different tone, hence the farcical structure. The plot doesn’t really matter in a farce – what matters is the characters and the relationships between them, and that was true in Ixalan; the point isn’t the race, it’s the themes. Power is rewarded with punishment in a farce, and our two most powerful characters in the narrative (Kumena and Azor) are rewarded for their hubris with comic defeats. Kumena in particular had a comically short reign because in a farce, he’s the comically incompetent character – the bodacious up-and-comer who thinks he is a great revolutionary, only to be cut short by literally being thrown out the window. There are plenty of other fun tropes to play with, too! Angrath is the furious and tone-deaf patriarch, Huatli is the naïve youth, Mavren Fein is the obnoxious puritan, and what happens to Jace and Vraska is a play on the trope of lovers with mistaken identities. Playing with genre in fantasy is fun, and opened up new spaces we wouldn’t have found without approaching it with farcical playfulness.
So if anybody was wondering about the decisions they made with storytelling ....and Why Kumena, Azor and Vona got PWNED so comically... this should explain things a bit.
your thoughts?
I think their explanation is a farce.
None of what they talked about was percieved by any of us it seems.
Just another excuse to explain bad writing unfortunately
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I've been lurking all the way back since Battle for Zendikar, silently watching throughout the worst of the Creative Team's bumbling. This piss poor attempt for an excuse has finally made me create an account just so I can vent my anger at the apparent complete lack of inter department communication going on at WoTC. I mean if I took a shot for every time they mentioned farce in that paragraph I'd be under the table. Calling it a farce is ironic because the only thing I can see that's a farce is the way Wizards is running the Magic story, I mean they aren't stupid people how hard is it to coordinate between the various departments, for gods sake send some emails at least!
So in this site's latest flavor article, one of the creators of the Ixalan storyline says this:
Ixalan is structured as a farce. A farce is built on physical humor, clambering characters, exaggeration and horseplay. After the serious nature of Amonkhet, we wanted to deliver a completely different tone, hence the farcical structure. The plot doesn’t really matter in a farce – what matters is the characters and the relationships between them, and that was true in Ixalan; the point isn’t the race, it’s the themes. Power is rewarded with punishment in a farce, and our two most powerful characters in the narrative (Kumena and Azor) are rewarded for their hubris with comic defeats. Kumena in particular had a comically short reign because in a farce, he’s the comically incompetent character – the bodacious up-and-comer who thinks he is a great revolutionary, only to be cut short by literally being thrown out the window. There are plenty of other fun tropes to play with, too! Angrath is the furious and tone-deaf patriarch, Huatli is the naïve youth, Mavren Fein is the obnoxious puritan, and what happens to Jace and Vraska is a play on the trope of lovers with mistaken identities. Playing with genre in fantasy is fun, and opened up new spaces we wouldn’t have found without approaching it with farcical playfulness.
So if anybody was wondering about the decisions they made with storytelling ....and Why Kumena, Azor and Vona got PWNED so comically... this should explain things a bit.
your thoughts?
WotC again shows to be an broken company with terrible inter-department communication.
The card art and flavor texts have little to no levity, and the art book isn't much more joyful. The fact that they apparently had to both shine a spotlight and try to make shadow of the whole oh so "delicate" colonialism themes of the set doesn't help either.
MaRo should take these people with him to write for a Roseanne revival if they all want to write comedy so much they're willing to ignore everyone else's work in the same project.
A farce would have focused more on Vraska's band of motley misfits.
A farce would had The Pirates in control at the end, with Vona's head impaled on a chandelier complaining and uselessly throwing out threats as the Pirates Partied
A farce would have had Emperor Generic Pants get stepped on by ZACAMA! just after he announced his intentions re-taking the city from the evil pirate scum without Huatli realizing it.
I've been lurking all the way back since Battle for Zendikar, silently watching throughout the worst of the Creative Team's bumbling. This piss poor attempt for an excuse has finally made me create an account just so I can vent my anger at the apparent complete lack of inter department communication going on at WoTC. I mean if I took a shot for every time they mentioned farce in that paragraph I'd be under the table. Calling it a farce is ironic because the only thing I can see that's a farce is the way Wizards is running the Magic story, I mean they aren't stupid people how hard is it to coordinate between the various departments, for gods sake send some emails at least!
What you say is true, but at the same time the story of Vraska and Jace was the most I’ve ever enjoyed reading a Jace story. They took a character that I hated to read about and made me love reading his story.
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Also, taking Orazca would simultaneously be both a great boon and a great burden to the River Heralds. Sure, it has a lot of power, but it's also a great big target. And for the Merfolk who have been surviving and fighting off the Sun Empire by guerilla tactics, suddenly having to hold and defend a city puts them in what would normally be an unfavorable position that is only counteracted by the city's inherent power. If they actually took the city, I'd expect the River Heralds' territories to shrink drastically as they dedicate most of their resources to keeping the city out of the Sun Empire's hands. This is reflected in the alternate ending as Tishana plans to gather the other Merfolk in the city and settle it permanently, only considering leaving the city personally once all the other Merfolk were brought there.
And, as I pointed out last time you brought this up, if Kumena had his way, Azor would have taken the sun and used it to rule Ixalan (the plane) with an iron fist (as he planned to do if the River Heralds failed to keep Orazca hidden).
I do have to agree though, I'm not a big fan of how Kumena was handled. Or rather not handled? He had two lines controlling the city before being thrown out a window. And that's it. Even before that, all we had was a spat with Tishana and then Kumena became an abstract quest objective. Hrmph.
According to the art book, Kumena was supposed to have wielded the Immortal Sun (that is, we were originally supposed to see its power in action) raining down storms and throwing obstacles in the path of the Vampire, Pirate, and Sun armies even as they skirmished each other and raced through the city toward the temple. He was the "Tyrant of Orazca," and his card name itself refers to this reign he was supposed to have. Why the online fictions decided to kneecap their villain's story the way they did (and in the first scene of RIX, no less) is a completely dumbfounding choice to me. Kumena was a great character in the making. Villainous, in his way, but with a realistic personality and understandable, perhaps even sympathetic motivations.
Edit: I will agree, though, that when you step back and really look at how the whole online story played out, Kumena comes out looking much better than Tishana. More like a failed hero than the misguided villain the writers were probably aiming for.
Them missing the mark on "writing grey vs grey" is the biggest theme in all of this.
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We have a constant and close relationship with our mesoamerican past, the Sun Empire is nothing we haven't seen before (and it's treated with the same infantilizing "noble savages" crap as always). But we can never show any pride for the other half of our heritage least west-coast left-leaning Americans lose their ***** like first graders who heard soomeone curse for the first time.
Mexicans are descendants of conquistadors and the Aztec empire were the villains of the story, that's why 40-60k native american warriors sided with Cortez.
The people upset and surprised at the emperor's disposition for violent expansionism should read some mesoamerican history because that's the most accurate depiction of Aztec nobility in media to this date. It just missed a lot of religious and racist justifications for why eating other people's hearts is ok.
Anyhow, I like that the ending demonstrates that anyone with power can become corrupt. As soon as the emperor was put in a favorable position, he became the enemy. And when Elenda appeared, the Vampires are the ones who show the promise of changing for the better. So the tides turn. It's not about the culture or race, it's all about integrity. The Sun Empire's leader lacks it. Elenda on the other hand is a deity worthy of reverence and embodies honor. So we can see the impact of a leader's integrity on the whole of their respective empires now, and I quite admire that contrast and tension for the return. Hope the Vampires make it out on top. They're definitely my favorite.
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To me, Elenda's actions make no sense.She decides she needs to guard the immortal sun so somehow she becomes a vampire. Then she spreads it to the nobility, builds a cult with her at the centre all in order to teach them "humility". Because making powerhungry monsters like Vona immortal is really humbling. And then she takes off and leaves them. Then she finds the sun... And goes to sleep for a thousand years. Azor at least had the decency to stay awake while guarding the sun.
She wakes up and sees the sun is gone. "Oh well I might as well go back to Torezon".
Sadly for me she is another Ixalan character that was wasted utterly.
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Not only all of that, it makes the story boring and predictable, we all knew that the Sun Empire was going to have all it's shades of grey completely ignored and that the vampires were going to be portrayed as evil.
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Looks like the opposite will be true in the return (whenever that happens).
You have more faith than I do, I expect Vona to be in charge of the Dusk Legion when we return and the first thing we see is Elenda crucified because she tried to reform the Vampires.
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This shouldn't be funny to me, but it is.
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I fully expect a vampire civil war with Vona+Queen Miralda vs Elenda+Mavren Fein, complicated by the arrival of Sun Empire armies/etc.
Yes!! A civil war and a continental war going on at the same time just to have the brazen coalition swoop in to reclaim their territory after everyone killed each other lol.
But who will represent G in all of this? The sun empire would pretty much be WR at this point. Maybe Kumena would lose his mind about losing Orazca to the empire and chase them to the other side of the plane to get revenge?
So if anybody was wondering about the decisions they made with storytelling ....and Why Kumena, Azor and Vona got PWNED so comically... this should explain things a bit.
your thoughts?
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I think that if those events were going to be treated comically, and were meant to be perceived comically, then the rest of the set did a poor job of setting the proper tone for them.
Little of the Ixilan story came across as comical, so treating those key moments as such just felt disjointed and out of place.
The card art and flavor texts have little to no levity, and the art book isn't much more joyful. The fact that they apparently had to both shine a spotlight and try to make shadow of the whole oh so "delicate" colonialism themes of the set doesn't help either.
MaRo should take these people with him to write for a Roseanne revival if they all want to write comedy so much they're willing to ignore everyone else's work in the same project.
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I think their explanation is a farce.
None of what they talked about was percieved by any of us it seems.
Just another excuse to explain bad writing unfortunately
There were funny moments, yes, but the general atmosphere wasn't.
A farce would have focused more on Vraska's band of motley misfits.
A farce would had The Pirates in control at the end, with Vona's head impaled on a chandelier complaining and uselessly throwing out threats as the Pirates Partied
A farce would have had Emperor Generic Pants get stepped on by ZACAMA! just after he announced his intentions re-taking the city from the evil pirate scum without Huatli realizing it.
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What you say is true, but at the same time the story of Vraska and Jace was the most I’ve ever enjoyed reading a Jace story. They took a character that I hated to read about and made me love reading his story.
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RW Blood MoonRW
Pauper
Delver U
Elves G
Control B
Commander
Edgar Markov BRW
Captain Sisay GW
Niv-Mizzet, Parun UR
Tymna and Ravos WB