hey all. i notice that it's mainly thin and muscular people on card art and in planeswalker characters.
are there heavy / fat / large people shown in positive ways in mtg at all? if so, can you give some examples to me?
Of course most characters will be fit. There is a lot of conflict and demand to be on the move. Many are warriors or engaged in battle.
This may seem harsh but I see no need to represent obesity in a positive light. It's unhealthy and a medical condition with serious consequences.
As someone who's actually very overweight, I agree. Its not something you glamorize- and lets be honest, the vast majority of people don't want to see it glamorized. Fat people just aren't marketable.
And its kinda hard to run around fighting eldrazi/vampires/Consulate forces when simply running up a couple flights of stairs leaves you out of breath. Anyone in that situation would either get fit fairly quickly due to all the activity, or end up dead because they're up against a quicker opponent they can't possibly keep up with.
I haven't paid much attention to chubby people on Magic cards for years so I just know some of the older cards. Back in the day, Daughter of Autumn got a lot of attention from the kids because she looked an awful lot like a teacher we had. She was just um... big.
Joven qualifies as beefy I guess. Not sure if he's positive.
I admit it would be nice to portray overweight characters more often. It would show a bigger slice of the populous. You would think green rife with cards that encourage "plenty" would have a few characters that enjoy "excess". Even if it a machine ala Tik-Tok
As other people said, in mtg, most of the time the planes are filled with monsters and have pretty much medieval (or more primitive) technology, see Innistrad, Rath, Zendikar, Theros, Mirrodin.
In those environments being fat is not a survival trait.
Obviously there are exceptions like Mercadia, Ravnica or Kaladesh, but as a rule of thumb I think they follow this logic: to be fat you have to be wealthy. With wealth then comes power, with power comes temptation and with temptation comes corruption.
Just have to ask... Why should being fat be glorified at all when being overweight or obese in real life shortens your life expectancy as you are more prone to diabetes, vascular diseases, heart attacks and strokes?
Mtg as a game should not really be representative of a sick reality where in the first world more than half of the people are overweight (imo).
Moreover, would you prefer to see an art depicting a fit man/woman/aetherborn or a blob of fat?
i agree that the soldiers etc would need to be fit. but there are still priests, healers, wealthy ravnicans, inventors and scientists .. maybe even pyromages and necromancers do not need to be fit.
but i mainly see either muscular, or fit-and-trim. there are a lot of other body types out there -- not just very obese or even obese, but also healthy body types such as husky, muscle-with-a-few-extra-pounds, etc; that is, there are people who /naturally/ are big (ie big and healthy) whose genetics would /never/ allow them to have a thin body.
also, there are associations and positive stereotypes (bigger people as being generous, warm, giving, caring) that i think would make evocative characters.
and admittedly, i'm attracted physically to husky and bigger guys so, yeah, it would be nice to see some eye candy for me on card art Joven is a start, i suppose
but in general, i think the more diversity that is shown, the more relatable the world feels to me, and the more rich/complex/interesting the world feels to me. i think diversity helps me feel that a world is broad and complex, so characters then feel more complex -- more complexly human, less caricature.
I'm fine with there not being/barely being any. NOT everyone has to be represented everywhere they go/look. Unfortunately, wotc have been giving into this new trend that everyone has to be represented everywhere so if they aren't any fat good guys then probably just wait for another block or two and they will add them. So far they have been doing a good job at it. We've been given gay couples that aren't ''in your face!'' gay and we have indians and who knows just what awaits us on Amonketh
Bruse is not as "fit" looking as other characters, but he does have muscle definition from being a herder. I don't think we will see fat/obese (i.e. no muscle definition, big belly, etc.) characters as positive role models in this particular story universe.