I don't especially see why Sorin couldn't have broken the Helvault, it seems like the bigger stretch to conclude he couldn't.
I'm not an expert about the cards, but others here have pointed that black has a really hard time destroying artifacts. Even Liliana had to blackmail the help of Thalia to break the Helvault, so I think the bigger stretch could actually be to conclude he could.
If Sorin was mono-Black that would seem like a fine conclusion. He's not though. He's got White. Look at Anguished Unmaking for a very recent example of his Artifact removal.
He was mono-black until dark ascension, but yeah, let's drop it.
I don't especially see why Sorin couldn't have broken the Helvault, it seems like the bigger stretch to conclude he couldn't.
I'm not an expert about the cards, but others here have pointed that black has a really hard time destroying artifacts. Even Liliana had to blackmail the help of Thalia to break the Helvault, so I think the bigger stretch could actually be to conclude he could.
If Sorin was mono-Black that would seem like a fine conclusion. He's not though. He's got White. Look at Anguished Unmaking for a very recent example of his Artifact removal.
He was mono-black until dark ascension, but yeah, let's drop it.
He wasn't mono-black, it was stated that when Innistrad was a concern he exhibited more White characteristics. It's how he made an angel presumably as well, which kind of requires White mana. Fine with dropping it, but it still seems like a bigger leap to say he couldn't do that.
He had around 900 years of pre-mending oldwalker powers to consider whether breaking the Helvault and having to replace it with another chunk of the Moon was worth releasing his student. Even if he couldn't replace the Helvault for whatsoever reasons (whether he doesn't have enough "essence", or the Moon ran out of rocks to be stable)... it was still a matter of prioritizing the "protection of his plane" over his student... a decision he dragged on for 1000 years before Ugin practically made him consider it. I don't think there's anything that could legitimately justify Sorin's callousness/selfishness in prioritizing the Helvault in its entirely over Nahiri.
Personally, I think it was justified. If Sorin broke the Helvault, he'd be releasing hundreds of demons, devils, and horrors into Innistrad. That would put thousands, maybe even millions of lives at risk. Even if you think he was wrong to imprison her in the first place (and I don't necessarily agree on that), breaking open the Helvault and endangering countless lives for the sake of a single person seems like it would be a greater wrong. I think prioritizing the Helvault over Nahiri is a perfectly valid decision, pragmatically and morally. And yes, he did consider releasing her after talking to Ugin, but that's because the Eldrazi posed an even greater threat than the monsters of Innistrad. All of his actions (except perhaps his original imprisonment of Nahiri, and even that's debatable) are in keeping with his "needs of the many" philosophy.
I don't especially see why Sorin couldn't have broken the Helvault, it seems like the bigger stretch to conclude he couldn't.
I'm not an expert about the cards, but others here have pointed that black has a really hard time destroying artifacts. Even Liliana had to blackmail the help of Thalia to break the Helvault, so I think the bigger stretch could actually be to conclude he could.
Sorin is a White/Black character, and several of the cards associated with him (e.g. Vindicate) are capable of destroying artifacts in addition to other permanents. But more importantly, Sorin made the Helvault, so I'd imagine he could also unmake it, even if he wasn't normally capable of destroying artifacts. If he was so inclined, he could probably just revoke its existence, as he did with Avacyn.
It's something of a moot point, though. Even if he wasn't capable of destroying the Helvault himself, he could've easily gotten someone else to do it, with much less trouble than Liliana had. The real question is whether he should have destroyed it, and I think the answer is no.
Permeating Mass. Traft "possessing/enhancing" Thalia, giving her relative better immunity to Emrakul's madness and transformation... Emrakul twists biology, that we all know... but spirits are not physical and therefore apparently don't seem to be affected. We all know the Gatewatch's going to save the day, but hypothetically if one could muster enough "good geists", can the plane actually be made "immune" to Emrakul by default?
If this property carries over to other planes as well, do planes like Kamigawa/Theros have natural resistances to Emrakul as well?
That's actually a good point. While I don't believe Theros would be immune (People would just be warped, which would create new gods, in the image of Emrakul. Basically Nyx would be invaded by the mad denizen's delirious nightmares.) Kamigawa might actually have some sort of immunity. What if this was Kozilek's role in the trio? If Emrakul is indeed required to sire new titans, and Ulamog simply just cleans up the leftovers, then maybe Kozilek's role is to "break" potential immunities. For example, he can warp the physics of a plane. Maybe on Kamigawa the modus operandi would be for Kozilek to break or twist the boundaries between the spirit realm and the mortal realm, effectively disrupting the spirits' influence.
I don't know. I'm probably putting more thought into this than creative is.
I'm just sad that the Eldrazi couldn't go to New Phyrexia and fight against the Phyrexians. I would gladly have the Pure Steel Mirrodins accept Emrakrul as their savior and go on crazy power trips to become Puresteel Eldrazi to fight against the Phyrexians.
I think that would backfire horribly. I'm sure there are people upset that the Phyrexians won. Having it become Eldrazi versus Phyrexians with Mirrodin completely gone would be really bad.
I'm just sad that the Eldrazi couldn't go to New Phyrexia and fight against the Phyrexians. I would gladly have the Pure Steel Mirrodins accept Emrakrul as their savior and go on crazy power trips to become Puresteel Eldrazi to fight against the Phyrexians.
I don't think that'd be a good idea, for one simple reason: who am I supposed to be rooting for?
Wrestling has the same problem when pitching Heel VS Heel matches; the audience has no one to cheer for, nobody to support, because at the end of the day, no matter who wins, we lose. Eldrazi VS Phyrexia would just be a question of whether we become food for extraterrestrial gods, or gets butchered and stitched together into a mockery of life. Lose/lose scenario.
If the Puresteel Mirrans were a third party using the conflict to try and reclaim their world, that'd be a different thing entirely.
I'm just sad that the Eldrazi couldn't go to New Phyrexia and fight against the Phyrexians. I would gladly have the Pure Steel Mirrodins accept Emrakrul as their savior and go on crazy power trips to become Puresteel Eldrazi to fight against the Phyrexians.
I don't think that'd be a good idea, for one simple reason: who am I supposed to be rooting for?
Wrestling has the same problem when pitching Heel VS Heel matches; the audience has no one to cheer for, nobody to support, because at the end of the day, no matter who wins, we lose. Eldrazi VS Phyrexia would just be a question of whether we become food for extraterrestrial gods, or gets butchered and stitched together into a mockery of life. Lose/lose scenario.
If the Puresteel Mirrans were a third party using the conflict to try and reclaim their world, that'd be a different thing entirely.
I see your point, but not everything needs to be black or white. I enjoy these gray morality stories, and I'm sure many others do as well. Remember Stone Cold Steve Austin was one of the most popular face because he did heel things. Having gray morality and "doing what may be necessary" is always a fun little concept in stories. In this case, do the Mirrodin's accept Emrakrul and warp into Eldrazi and live to fight Phyrexia or do they refuse and get grafted into some machine?
I'm just sad that the Eldrazi couldn't go to New Phyrexia and fight against the Phyrexians. I would gladly have the Pure Steel Mirrodins accept Emrakrul as their savior and go on crazy power trips to become Puresteel Eldrazi to fight against the Phyrexians.
I don't think that'd be a good idea, for one simple reason: who am I supposed to be rooting for?
Wrestling has the same problem when pitching Heel VS Heel matches; the audience has no one to cheer for, nobody to support, because at the end of the day, no matter who wins, we lose. Eldrazi VS Phyrexia would just be a question of whether we become food for extraterrestrial gods, or gets butchered and stitched together into a mockery of life. Lose/lose scenario.
If the Puresteel Mirrans were a third party using the conflict to try and reclaim their world, that'd be a different thing entirely.
I see your point, but not everything needs to be black or white. I enjoy these gray morality stories, and I'm sure many others do as well. Remember Stone Cold Steve Austin was one of the most popular face because he did heel things. Having gray morality and "doing what may be necessary" is always a fun little concept in stories. In this case, do the Mirrodin's accept Emrakrul and warp into Eldrazi and live to fight Phyrexia or do they refuse and get grafted into some machine?
Oh, I understand what you're going for, it's just that, well...
Eldrazi: devour entire Planes and their populations, stripping the Plane bare before moving on, like a swarm of extraterrestrial locusts.
Phyrexia: enslave, butcher, distort, torture and corrupt entire Planes and their populations before spreading to the next Plane to infect, like an intelligent virus.
This isn't gray morality: this is Black VS Black morality. If the Mirrans were allying with Bolas, or some other force that's not entirely inimical to their way of life, that'd be more akin to what you're looking for I think.
Bolas using the Mirrans to combat the Phyrexians is closer to gray vs black, yeah. Phyrexia vs Eldrazi is just black on black for sure. It's the same kind of issue with a set on New Phyrexia without some outside factor.
I do get the goal here, but accepting the Eldrazi is not a "do what's necessary" or morally gray kind of thing. It would also really frustrate anyone who actually likes the Mirrans. New Phyrexia was bad enough for them, but further grinding any hope into dust by adding Eldrazi would just be depressing I imagine.
They were not supposed to be here. They were supposed to be away. Somehow, there was an away from Zendikar. There were many aways from Zendikar, and the Eldrazi knew, in so far as they could know anything, they should be there, and not here.
A strange thrumming grew in Tazri's ears. It was not coming from the air, or through the ground. It was coming from inside her. The thrumming grew and deepened, and only gradually did Tazri guess at the sound.
It sounded like laughter. The laughter of Kozilek.
The Promised End: And finally, the communication between Jace and Emrakul
"This is all wrong. I am incomplete, unfulfilled, inchoate. There should be blossoms, not barren resentment. The soil was not receptive. It is not my time. Not yet."
And better of all, the plot twist at the end, I liked a lot this last article there.
And better of all, the plot twist at the end, I liked a lot this last article there.
I liked the plot twist so much. I'm still wondering if Emrakul exiled itself because of that line or if it that was just Jace subconscious interpretation of Emrakul's intentions: 1) if Emrakul thinks herself as good and therefore regrets being rejected and opts for isolation, or 2) if Jace misunderstood that information and Emrakul's goal was always the moon and the secrets it hides. What I like the most of the lines you point too is that I remembered that theory about the eldrazi titans being planeswalkers that drifted for too long in the blind eternities.
I hope we get to follow Tamiyo after Kaladesh, since I found her really interesting.
And better of all, the plot twist at the end, I liked a lot this last article there.
I liked the plot twist so much. I'm still wondering if Emrakul exiled itself because of that line or if it that was just Jace subconscious interpretation of Emrakul's intentions: 1) if Emrakul thinks herself as good and therefore regrets being rejected and opts for isolation, or 2) if Jace misunderstood that information and Emrakul's goal was always the moon and the secrets it hides. What I like the most of the lines you point too is that I remembered that theory about the eldrazi titans being planeswalkers that drifted for too long in the blind eternities.
I hope we get to follow Tamiyo after Kaladesh, since I found her really interesting.
Same, Tamiyo is my favorite Planeswalker. I really want to see her again. Worried she might wind up warped though.
What happened to Emrakul's spawn after she got imprisoned? Can't find anything saying one way or the other.
It hasn't been stated yet. On Zendikar her spawn slowly withered away and dwindled in numbers due to her absence. However, we do not know if imprisoning her in the moon similarly cuts her off from the plane as her imprisonment on Zendikar did, considering both are very different mechanics to imprison something and even the Zendikar prison had to be adjusted to minimize the Eldrazi influence on the plane (at one point they could generate spawn even while imprisoned, until Nahiri fixed it).
Some people (myself included) have also theorized that Wizards wants to keep the body/madness horror in small doses going forward, which would mean that Emrakul can still influence Innistrad even while imprisoned in the moon. It should also be noted that Emrakul wanted to be imprisoned, which could mean that it's not really a prison to her but simply a "storage" which she can leave whenever she feels like it. This would also imply that the moon and the Zendikar prison work differently, because Emrakul could not escape the prison on Zendikar by herself.
I remember someone mentioning that the Innistrad art book mentions there's still a pack of roving Eldrazi Werewolves called the Dronepack. My guess would be that the survivors don't have to worry about being corrupted, but the current spawn still exist and have to be dealt with.
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Marisi Coilbreaker
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Gix, Phyrexian Praetor
Karn, Father of Machines
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Serra, Mother of All Angels
Tevesh Szat, Doom of Fools
Leshrac the Nightwalker
Jeska, the Thrice-Touched
Elspeth Returned
Crucius the Mad
Taysir the Infinite
Urza's Head (Unglued!)
Another thing to mention: When the Eldrazi on Zendikar were sealed away or killed, their spawn didn't automatically die or become inert. They still acted like semi-autonomous beings, though probably more like wild animals without a purpose, but the Zendikari still had to dispatch with them after the battles were won.
what happened with the hypnotoad I mean gitrog monster, I know its more a short story but its just a wee personal thing?
The art book has a minor note about all the "monsters" the cults have been worshipping (like the frog) were warped by Emrakul into eldrazi horrors, no long recognizable as a natural creatures.
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The Promised End: And finally, the communication between Jace and Emrakul
Just reread the first two stories with the revelations about Emrakul in mind, and things do make more sense (in a nonsense way).
Ulamog's story describes how he was created, and eventually gained intelligence and gained more power all in all. What's curious is that we also get confirmation that they are meant to reset what is broken. When a world, when a Plane goes Wrong, they show up to reset everything before the Brokeness can spread. I suspect that New Phyrexia would have been high on their hit list had they been loose.
With Future-Tazri's experiences, we can see what Koz leaves behind. Koz breaks patterns in the world itself. What's left is pure chaos, with (normally) no remnants left behind of the old world to affect the next. We also get confirmation that Emrakul is the oldest and that she is the creator.
So between those three stories, the Eldrazi purpose does seem obvious, and matches what many have suspected.
Ulamog is the destroyer. He pulls in all the energy of the world, killing it effectively and probably storing or transmitting it to Emrakul for the rebirth.
Kozilek is the shatterer, picking up when Ulamog is done and breaking the pattern of the old world. All the rules, all the laws (including the laws of nature) of the old world are broken, destroyed, reduced to the most basic of basic with no patterns left behind. Koz will chew on a plane long after Ulamog has moved on.
Emrakul would theoretically only show up when her brothers are done. She takes the basic building blocks Koz leaves behind and builds from there, creating the patterns, setting down the laws and spawning new life for a new plane.
Tazri's story does make me wonder if that might be a new story angle Wizards could tackle in the future. FutureTazri never saw Emrakul show up, but also endured (as a Koz Minion) for aeons after. If Wizards wanted, I wonder if they might start a world's story with a survivor wakening up; someone from a previous plane that the Titans rebuilt returning 'home' and not happy with what they see.
Finally, to touch on what was said earlier, Ulamog's story seems to imply he was created; he came into being somehow. I get the feeling that he was probably the youngest Titan.... and it also implies that Emrakul (or maybe whatever created Emrakul?) could summon/create new Devourer and Breakers as needed. Maybe that's why she's resting in the moon; she's preparing and gathering herself to create her new siblings one way or another.
Regarding how much influence Emrakul might still wield from within the moon, bear in mind she effectively sealed herself in because she was affecting the plane before its due time. If she continues to warp things even after being sealed it would defeat the object of her sealing herself up. I guess, really, I don't know why she didn't just leave and go back to the Blind Eternities, unless, as others have said, she really is waiting for a new rising of two counterparts to replace Ula and Koz. Maybe she can't fulfill her role without the other two, in which case I'm even more worried that Sorin might be a prime target for titanisation.
He was mono-black until dark ascension, but yeah, let's drop it.
He wasn't mono-black, it was stated that when Innistrad was a concern he exhibited more White characteristics. It's how he made an angel presumably as well, which kind of requires White mana. Fine with dropping it, but it still seems like a bigger leap to say he couldn't do that.
Personally, I think it was justified. If Sorin broke the Helvault, he'd be releasing hundreds of demons, devils, and horrors into Innistrad. That would put thousands, maybe even millions of lives at risk. Even if you think he was wrong to imprison her in the first place (and I don't necessarily agree on that), breaking open the Helvault and endangering countless lives for the sake of a single person seems like it would be a greater wrong. I think prioritizing the Helvault over Nahiri is a perfectly valid decision, pragmatically and morally. And yes, he did consider releasing her after talking to Ugin, but that's because the Eldrazi posed an even greater threat than the monsters of Innistrad. All of his actions (except perhaps his original imprisonment of Nahiri, and even that's debatable) are in keeping with his "needs of the many" philosophy.
Sorin is a White/Black character, and several of the cards associated with him (e.g. Vindicate) are capable of destroying artifacts in addition to other permanents. But more importantly, Sorin made the Helvault, so I'd imagine he could also unmake it, even if he wasn't normally capable of destroying artifacts. If he was so inclined, he could probably just revoke its existence, as he did with Avacyn.
It's something of a moot point, though. Even if he wasn't capable of destroying the Helvault himself, he could've easily gotten someone else to do it, with much less trouble than Liliana had. The real question is whether he should have destroyed it, and I think the answer is no.
Nahiri cast Coax From the Blind Eternities and she's far far away from having any resemblance to blue.
That's actually a good point. While I don't believe Theros would be immune (People would just be warped, which would create new gods, in the image of Emrakul. Basically Nyx would be invaded by the mad denizen's delirious nightmares.) Kamigawa might actually have some sort of immunity. What if this was Kozilek's role in the trio? If Emrakul is indeed required to sire new titans, and Ulamog simply just cleans up the leftovers, then maybe Kozilek's role is to "break" potential immunities. For example, he can warp the physics of a plane. Maybe on Kamigawa the modus operandi would be for Kozilek to break or twist the boundaries between the spirit realm and the mortal realm, effectively disrupting the spirits' influence.
I don't know. I'm probably putting more thought into this than creative is.
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I don't think that'd be a good idea, for one simple reason: who am I supposed to be rooting for?
Wrestling has the same problem when pitching Heel VS Heel matches; the audience has no one to cheer for, nobody to support, because at the end of the day, no matter who wins, we lose. Eldrazi VS Phyrexia would just be a question of whether we become food for extraterrestrial gods, or gets butchered and stitched together into a mockery of life. Lose/lose scenario.
If the Puresteel Mirrans were a third party using the conflict to try and reclaim their world, that'd be a different thing entirely.
I see your point, but not everything needs to be black or white. I enjoy these gray morality stories, and I'm sure many others do as well. Remember Stone Cold Steve Austin was one of the most popular face because he did heel things. Having gray morality and "doing what may be necessary" is always a fun little concept in stories. In this case, do the Mirrodin's accept Emrakrul and warp into Eldrazi and live to fight Phyrexia or do they refuse and get grafted into some machine?
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Oh, I understand what you're going for, it's just that, well...
Eldrazi: devour entire Planes and their populations, stripping the Plane bare before moving on, like a swarm of extraterrestrial locusts.
Phyrexia: enslave, butcher, distort, torture and corrupt entire Planes and their populations before spreading to the next Plane to infect, like an intelligent virus.
This isn't gray morality: this is Black VS Black morality. If the Mirrans were allying with Bolas, or some other force that's not entirely inimical to their way of life, that'd be more akin to what you're looking for I think.
I do get the goal here, but accepting the Eldrazi is not a "do what's necessary" or morally gray kind of thing. It would also really frustrate anyone who actually likes the Mirrans. New Phyrexia was bad enough for them, but further grinding any hope into dust by adding Eldrazi would just be depressing I imagine.
Now, with part of her locked in the Silver Moon, how do exactly she thinks she can "achieve her purpose"?
Also, I've to say that it's good to see she was smarter than Ulamog and Kozilek, and the "thoughts" of each of them were sort of cryptic anyway:
Memories of Blood (Ulamog): Where are the Eldrazi supossed to be then?
The blight we were born for: One of my favorite UR stories, where Kozilek is shown as a sadistic murderer:
The Promised End: And finally, the communication between Jace and Emrakul
And better of all, the plot twist at the end, I liked a lot this last article there.
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BR Skeleton Warriors - RG Night of The Howlpack - B Bog Murderers - BR Eldrazi Assault - BGU Ulamog's Swarm
I liked the plot twist so much. I'm still wondering if Emrakul exiled itself because of that line or if it that was just Jace subconscious interpretation of Emrakul's intentions: 1) if Emrakul thinks herself as good and therefore regrets being rejected and opts for isolation, or 2) if Jace misunderstood that information and Emrakul's goal was always the moon and the secrets it hides. What I like the most of the lines you point too is that I remembered that theory about the eldrazi titans being planeswalkers that drifted for too long in the blind eternities.
I hope we get to follow Tamiyo after Kaladesh, since I found her really interesting.
Same, Tamiyo is my favorite Planeswalker. I really want to see her again. Worried she might wind up warped though.
Hoping for a cure, or at least an outbreak.
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It hasn't been stated yet. On Zendikar her spawn slowly withered away and dwindled in numbers due to her absence. However, we do not know if imprisoning her in the moon similarly cuts her off from the plane as her imprisonment on Zendikar did, considering both are very different mechanics to imprison something and even the Zendikar prison had to be adjusted to minimize the Eldrazi influence on the plane (at one point they could generate spawn even while imprisoned, until Nahiri fixed it).
Some people (myself included) have also theorized that Wizards wants to keep the body/madness horror in small doses going forward, which would mean that Emrakul can still influence Innistrad even while imprisoned in the moon. It should also be noted that Emrakul wanted to be imprisoned, which could mean that it's not really a prison to her but simply a "storage" which she can leave whenever she feels like it. This would also imply that the moon and the Zendikar prison work differently, because Emrakul could not escape the prison on Zendikar by herself.
Long story short: We have absolutely no idea.
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O-Kagachi
Gix, Phyrexian Praetor
Karn, Father of Machines
Yawgmoth, Father of Machines
Serra, Mother of All Angels
Tevesh Szat, Doom of Fools
Leshrac the Nightwalker
Jeska, the Thrice-Touched
Elspeth Returned
Crucius the Mad
Taysir the Infinite
Urza's Head (Unglued!)
She's just waiting at this point.
The art book has a minor note about all the "monsters" the cults have been worshipping (like the frog) were warped by Emrakul into eldrazi horrors, no long recognizable as a natural creatures.
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Just reread the first two stories with the revelations about Emrakul in mind, and things do make more sense (in a nonsense way).
Ulamog's story describes how he was created, and eventually gained intelligence and gained more power all in all. What's curious is that we also get confirmation that they are meant to reset what is broken. When a world, when a Plane goes Wrong, they show up to reset everything before the Brokeness can spread. I suspect that New Phyrexia would have been high on their hit list had they been loose.
With Future-Tazri's experiences, we can see what Koz leaves behind. Koz breaks patterns in the world itself. What's left is pure chaos, with (normally) no remnants left behind of the old world to affect the next. We also get confirmation that Emrakul is the oldest and that she is the creator.
So between those three stories, the Eldrazi purpose does seem obvious, and matches what many have suspected.
Ulamog is the destroyer. He pulls in all the energy of the world, killing it effectively and probably storing or transmitting it to Emrakul for the rebirth.
Kozilek is the shatterer, picking up when Ulamog is done and breaking the pattern of the old world. All the rules, all the laws (including the laws of nature) of the old world are broken, destroyed, reduced to the most basic of basic with no patterns left behind. Koz will chew on a plane long after Ulamog has moved on.
Emrakul would theoretically only show up when her brothers are done. She takes the basic building blocks Koz leaves behind and builds from there, creating the patterns, setting down the laws and spawning new life for a new plane.
Tazri's story does make me wonder if that might be a new story angle Wizards could tackle in the future. FutureTazri never saw Emrakul show up, but also endured (as a Koz Minion) for aeons after. If Wizards wanted, I wonder if they might start a world's story with a survivor wakening up; someone from a previous plane that the Titans rebuilt returning 'home' and not happy with what they see.
Finally, to touch on what was said earlier, Ulamog's story seems to imply he was created; he came into being somehow. I get the feeling that he was probably the youngest Titan.... and it also implies that Emrakul (or maybe whatever created Emrakul?) could summon/create new Devourer and Breakers as needed. Maybe that's why she's resting in the moon; she's preparing and gathering herself to create her new siblings one way or another.