So, the third return to a plane in a row? Colour me midly disappointed.
I mean, fine, it's not a "full" return, but I wouldn't even say anything if we didn't just have two returns in a row.
Also, it being the third plane focused on artifice doesn't help.
Does this mean Theros wasn't really a new plane, since we got Nessian Courser in Future Sight? We had a few cards with art set on the plane. That doesn't really count as a set or visit or whatever, since we explored very little in terms of culture, mechanics, etc.
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While I am excited for Kaladesh I will admit to being a little leery about it. Between Mirrodin/New Phyrexia, the esper shard of Alara, and the clockwork aspects of Fiora we already have three planes with a strong artifact theme. Indian folklore and mythology is certainly broad enough that a full plane could be based around it even w/out an artifact steam punk vibe, so my hope is that, while artifacts are clearly going to be an important aspect of this block, they will not be the primary "block theme" if that makes sense.
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While I am excited for Kaladesh I will admit to being a little leery about it. Between Mirrodin/New Phyrexia, the esper shard of Alara, and the clockwork aspects of Fiora we already have three planes with a strong artifact theme. Indian folklore and mythology is certainly broad enough that a full plane could be based around it even w/out an artifact steam punk vibe, so my hope is that, while artifacts are clearly going to be an important aspect of this block, they will not be the primary "block theme" if that makes sense.
Exactly, I loved how Theros tied in references to classical greek mythology and I'd be disappointed if cards that referenced Indian epics like the Muhabharata or Ramayana were left out in favor of "steampunk thopter masters" cool as that does sound. I think that this plane does represent a good place for riggers and contraptions to finally appear and I'm hoping that's as far as it goes.
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Exactly, I loved how Theros tied in references to classical greek mythology and I'd be disappointed if cards that referenced Indian epics like the Muhabharata or Ramayana were left out in favor of "steampunk thopter masters" cool as that does sound. I think that this plane does represent a good place for riggers and contraptions to finally appear and I'm hoping that's as far as it goes.
Artifact would make a good sub-theme, but yes, the block should probably be broader than that.
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The plane is larger than just the city of Ghirapur, so presumably we'll see more of Kaladesh than just the clockwork city.
A general theme of invention, innovation, and progress could be interesting when applied to non-technological areas. Or maybe a conflict between the artifice of Ghirapur and the traditional magecraft of the "old ways." That could be a good place to insert a bit more Indian cultural flavor, as well.
Exactly, I loved how Theros tied in references to classical greek mythology and I'd be disappointed if cards that referenced Indian epics like the Muhabharata or Ramayana were left out in favor of "steampunk thopter masters" cool as that does sound. I think that this plane does represent a good place for riggers and contraptions to finally appear and I'm hoping that's as far as it goes.
I mean, my Daretti and Sharuum EDH decks want goodies, but I agree in principle here. I'd be cool with artifacts being the RU mechanic, and the rest of the colors expressing differently.
Plot wise, I'm glad you brought up the use of classical Hindu epics.
For you non-Indians here, what do you see as Indian cultural touchstones that would be interesting as flavor?
Exactly, I loved how Theros tied in references to classical greek mythology and I'd be disappointed if cards that referenced Indian epics like the Muhabharata or Ramayana were left out in favor of "steampunk thopter masters" cool as that does sound. I think that this plane does represent a good place for riggers and contraptions to finally appear and I'm hoping that's as far as it goes.
I mean, my Daretti and Sharuum EDH decks want goodies, but I agree in principle here. I'd be cool with artifacts being the RU mechanic, and the rest of the colors expressing differently.
Plot wise, I'm glad you brought up the use of classical Hindu epics.
As an Indian (Punjabi Hindu), I would expect (and hope for) minimal, if any real classical Hindu mythos in this set. They don't mix well with clockwork, which is Victorian British, with themes that talk about energy and its role in society (like electricity, not mystical energy), governance and its role in society, corruption, technology and how that effects people, how it could be different, and social class. Hindu epics (Ramayana/Mahabarata) are rooted in very different values, family, sibling love, duty to your family/king, self discovery in solitude, how to work with your elders, roles of women, devotion etc. Its something that I think would be extremely hard to mix well. I would hope that would be left to a different plane. (And I assume we can have more than one South Asian-inspired plane eventually so they don't have to shove all of in Kaladesh, especially considering Kaladesh has much more going on). Of course I'm probably missing some story, or part of the epics that would work well, and I wouldn't be surprised with maybe one or two nods that they can make, but overall, and especially with the epics, I don't think it fits well.
Of course Hinduism/the epics/mythology are not the only parts of South Asian culture (which, by the way, is probably the better term as there are many people who are not Indian - Pakistanis, Bangladeshis, Nepalis, Sri Lankans etc), and that can be drawn from and mixed with steampunk, like architecture, dress (Saheeli's sari is gorgeous), the wildlife (I'm excited for a metal elephant, metal monkeys, tigers, peacocks, cows whatever), class, urban/rural divides, etc. More modern things that can be meshed really interestingly with the steampunk stuff.
Basically, what I'm saying is that I expect, and hope for, Kaladesh being South Asia meets Steampunk, not Steampunk meets Hinduism.
That makes sense, though kind of makes me less interested in the block. While I'm sure it will be very pretty steampunk just isn't much for me at least. Kind of a shame given the last two blocks weren't really to my taste either, though at least the new paradigm means moving a bit faster.
Hoping I'm wrong, it's hard to tell with so little still. It's possible I'm judging too early, but I am doubtful on that.
As an Indian (Punjabi Hindu), I would expect (and hope for) minimal, if any real classical Hindu mythos in this set. They don't mix well with clockwork, which is Victorian British, with themes that talk about energy and its role in society (like electricity, not mystical energy), governance and its role in society, corruption, technology and how that effects people, how it could be different, and social class. Hindu epics (Ramayana/Mahabarata) are rooted in very different values, family, sibling love, duty to your family/king, self discovery in solitude, how to work with your elders, roles of women, devotion etc. Its something that I think would be extremely hard to mix well. I would hope that would be left to a different plane. (And I assume we can have more than one South Asian-inspired plane eventually so they don't have to shove all of in Kaladesh, especially considering Kaladesh has much more going on). Of course I'm probably missing some story, or part of the epics that would work well, and I wouldn't be surprised with maybe one or two nods that they can make, but overall, and especially with the epics, I don't think it fits well.
Of course Hinduism/the epics/mythology are not the only parts of South Asian culture (which, by the way, is probably the better term as there are many people who are not Indian - Pakistanis, Bangladeshis, Nepalis, Sri Lankans etc), and that can be drawn from and mixed with steampunk, like architecture, dress (Saheeli's sari is gorgeous), the wildlife (I'm excited for a metal elephant, metal monkeys, tigers, peacocks, cows whatever), class, urban/rural divides, etc. More modern things that can be meshed really interestingly with the steampunk stuff.
Basically, what I'm saying is that I expect, and hope for, Kaladesh being South Asia meets Steampunk, not Steampunk meets Hinduism.
I... Was actually going to comment something similar once I got some responses.
I'm not far removed enough to know what the 'common' tropes of India would be for the average person with only a little experience.
I should be clear that when I say "Indian" in this context, I'm talking about the Indian subcontinent. South Asian is probably the better term, you're right.
The things I would like to see represented are:
- Color is something India is known for and Holi and Diwali are instant recognizable
- Expand on what Tarkir started with non-western demon imagery. Devas instead of Angels. Very few western mythos creatures.
- Mughals and/or the British Raj, which the consuls seem to broadly be
- Class divisions between the artisan inventors and the poor
- If there is an Indian soap opera reference somehow I will die of laughter
- Keep it a melting pot, South Asia has always been relatively diverse.
- Unique creatures, South Asiant myths are full of things that have been untapped by fantasy. For instance, Vetala vampires, Venara, Garuda, etc.
What's funny is that Bant has a lot of Hindu and Buddhist characteristics. I think some of those ideas could carry over nicely.
... And yeah, I guess I've been a bit Hindu-centric here. South Asian is a hugely diverse place and there is a lot to tap.
Unfortunately I think if they drop to much Indian culture into this one it could end up like Kamigawa. The most the average American gets about India is Ghandi, Shiva, Ganesh, and vague mentions of its importance during the colonial era of western Europ . And hell most people don't even know what Ghandi was actually doin . They just assume he's an Indian MLK. Id love to know more but growing up in south Georgia we got a ton of Greece, Rome and western Europe, some Egypt but when it hits the 1700s most history classes become America centric. Hell to get basically anything beyond cursory glances at anything south of Egypt or east of Turkey you have to take specialized classes.
Unfortunately I think if they drop to much Indian culture into this one it could end up like Kamigawa. The most the average American gets about India is Ghandi, Shiva, Ganesh, and vague mentions of its importance during the colonial era of western Europ . And hell most people don't even know what Ghandi was actually doin . They just assume he's an Indian MLK. Id love to know more but growing up in south Georgia we got a ton of Greece, Rome and western Europe, some Egypt but when it hits the 1700s most history classes become America centric. Hell to get basically anything beyond cursory glances at anything south of Egypt or east of Turkey you have to take specialized classes.
Kamigawa seems fine to me, I am worried about the opposite. Where instead it's just a really general knowledge deal that loses any of its depth.
I was always puzzled why they didn't make Chandra look Indian. Apart from her name, her appearance never seemed Indian to me in any way, she was just another white girl with appropriate hair colour for her element.
Really looking forward to the plane and hoping that they will indeed introduce some new creature types, or at least use new names. A Garuda could still be a bird plus an extra type to slightly distinguish it from regular birds.
Before Tarkir if we ever got a India/SE asian themed plane I would have expected Rakshasa demons, naga, garuda themed aven, and loxodons w/ a SE Asian flavor. Post Tarkir I'm not sure we'll see any of these things since Naga and Rakshasa were such an integral part of the Sultai clan.
Also, I think now is the time for a legendary ape
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Kamigawa seems fine to me, I am worried about the opposite. Where instead it's just a really general knowledge deal that loses any of its depth.
My point was that Kamigawa was heavily influenced by Shintoism. However I'd wager most people think Shinto is a kind of sushi. If you tap too deeply into something that a large enough section of your fanbase isn't familiar enough with your lore wont do so well. Everyone knows Greek myth so it wasn't hard for Theros to resonate strongly with the players. I'm not so sure Indian myth and culture will do so well.
- If there is an Indian soap opera reference somehow I will die of laughter
I'm hoping the trailer for Kaladesh is a Bollywood item song.
You're my Hero EleshNornn. I just want 'Overly long pointed look' to be card. Kind of like Enthralling Victor, but Bollywood.
Side Note: Do we have any other Desis on the board? Would any of your like a look see at my MTG Indian Influences article before it goes to publication (won't be for a while)? My wife is Bihari, and I'd like to get input from players all over.
Kamigawa seems fine to me, I am worried about the opposite. Where instead it's just a really general knowledge deal that loses any of its depth.
My point was that Kamigawa was heavily influenced by Shintoism. However I'd wager most people think Shinto is a kind of sushi. If you tap too deeply into something that a large enough section of your fanbase isn't familiar enough with your lore wont do so well. Everyone knows Greek myth so it wasn't hard for Theros to resonate strongly with the players. I'm not so sure Indian myth and culture will do so well.
Hence my concern. I'm worried resonance will be such a focus that you'll wind up with a plane lacking in a lot of things that make a culture interesting. When talks about Kamigawa and resonance are brought up for instance the focus is often on samurai and ninja and how the spirits were too out there as a focus, which is very concerning. Though maybe they'll do it over a series of planes so eventually players get used to it, something like Tarkir with Sultai going to Kaladesh going to an even more in-depth look that could be seen as the equivalent to Kamigawa in terms of innate resonance. Players get acclimated to it so they can go a bit more out there.
I think it's a pretty good theory. Seems like the things in the back are some kind of aether condenser, and with the second block being called aether revolt, maybe we'll be seeing the effect of killing the Eldrazi sooner rather than later.
A typical, cancerous clickbait article that basically says "Emrakul isn't on Innistrad. But he's on Innistrad." That's the most stupid thing I've read this year, thanks.
Okay, first of all that isn't what I linked to, it was the resource war theory.
Second of all, the theory you're talking about (which is VERY likely correct) is that Avacyn has been keeping Emrakul from fully entering the plane.
Third, Cary writes good stuff. No one forced you to read through the whole damn thing, and I didn't even link to it. I don't have a lot of respect for a lot of the dreck out there, but the Gathering Magic crew is solid. If you've got an axe to grind, please do it elsewhere.
Maybe the thread to Kaladesh is Tamiyo? She did offer to share her knowledge to the Gatewatch, maybe after the events of Eldritch Moon she gives them a few scrolls to look into and Chandra sees something about Kaladesh?
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So, the third return to a plane in a row? Colour me midly disappointed.
I mean, fine, it's not a "full" return, but I wouldn't even say anything if we didn't just have two returns in a row.
Also, it being the third plane focused on artifice doesn't help.
Does this mean Theros wasn't really a new plane, since we got Nessian Courser in Future Sight? We had a few cards with art set on the plane. That doesn't really count as a set or visit or whatever, since we explored very little in terms of culture, mechanics, etc.
If you think that a single card is the equivalent of one tenth of a block, and a whopping one third of the new planes featured in said block, then yes, I guess Theros was a return.
That is however an incredibly laughable notion. It is even more ridiculous if one considers the fact that Nessian Courser was not designed for Theros, it was retroactively associated with it. The centaur in the art does not feature any of the characteristics that the centaurs in Theros do. Theros itself was not even thought of as an elevator-pitch when Nessian Courser's art name and flavour text were made.
Kaladesh however was designed to a considerable degree in Magic Origins, complete with a styleguide and backstory.
All that said, if Theros also had its debut as one tenth of a previous block, with a complete styleguide covering the aesthetics of the cards involved, then yes, I would have considered Theros to be a return to an already established plane.
- If there is an Indian soap opera reference somehow I will die of laughter
I'm hoping the trailer for Kaladesh is a Bollywood item song.
You're my Hero EleshNornn. I just want 'Overly long pointed look' to be card. Kind of like Enthralling Victor, but Bollywood.
Side Note: Do we have any other Desis on the board? Would any of your like a look see at my MTG Indian Influences article before it goes to publication (won't be for a while)? My wife is Bihari, and I'd like to get input from players all over.
Oh, missed this my last look through. I'd be interested in looking at it, though I don't think I could input anything. But it's fine if not, it just sounds interesting.
I'm not sure what I feel about going to Kaladesh; UR and artifacts does very little for me. The most exciting part would be *any* kind of Michael Moorcock / Oswald Bastaple airship steampunky goodness, but given the excitement on this thread by people with far more investment in some genuine Indian themes turning up, I'd far rather they got those than my Victorian British steampunkiness if there isn't space for both. And I've just had Innistrad 2.0 to sate all my gothy WB needs, so my Vorthos-tank is nicely full
Due to the theme of the plane, I prefer the Country of Time/Gear Town translation.
That certainly makes more sense than 'black country', which is how I automatically translated it!
To be fair, that's how it's ordinarily used.
If you're a native speaker, it makes sense that's how you'd translate it. But you have to remember that much of this (like the use of Akhara) is likely the result of a google search for Hindi words sans context.
Does this mean Theros wasn't really a new plane, since we got Nessian Courser in Future Sight? We had a few cards with art set on the plane. That doesn't really count as a set or visit or whatever, since we explored very little in terms of culture, mechanics, etc.
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GU Kruphix's "Hug Assassin"
RW Kalemne's "Play Fatties and Hope for the Best!"
BUGW Atraxa's "All counters, all the time"
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Artifact would make a good sub-theme, but yes, the block should probably be broader than that.
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A general theme of invention, innovation, and progress could be interesting when applied to non-technological areas. Or maybe a conflict between the artifice of Ghirapur and the traditional magecraft of the "old ways." That could be a good place to insert a bit more Indian cultural flavor, as well.
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Plot wise, I'm glad you brought up the use of classical Hindu epics.
For you non-Indians here, what do you see as Indian cultural touchstones that would be interesting as flavor?
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As an Indian (Punjabi Hindu), I would expect (and hope for) minimal, if any real classical Hindu mythos in this set. They don't mix well with clockwork, which is Victorian British, with themes that talk about energy and its role in society (like electricity, not mystical energy), governance and its role in society, corruption, technology and how that effects people, how it could be different, and social class. Hindu epics (Ramayana/Mahabarata) are rooted in very different values, family, sibling love, duty to your family/king, self discovery in solitude, how to work with your elders, roles of women, devotion etc. Its something that I think would be extremely hard to mix well. I would hope that would be left to a different plane. (And I assume we can have more than one South Asian-inspired plane eventually so they don't have to shove all of in Kaladesh, especially considering Kaladesh has much more going on). Of course I'm probably missing some story, or part of the epics that would work well, and I wouldn't be surprised with maybe one or two nods that they can make, but overall, and especially with the epics, I don't think it fits well.
Of course Hinduism/the epics/mythology are not the only parts of South Asian culture (which, by the way, is probably the better term as there are many people who are not Indian - Pakistanis, Bangladeshis, Nepalis, Sri Lankans etc), and that can be drawn from and mixed with steampunk, like architecture, dress (Saheeli's sari is gorgeous), the wildlife (I'm excited for a metal elephant, metal monkeys, tigers, peacocks, cows whatever), class, urban/rural divides, etc. More modern things that can be meshed really interestingly with the steampunk stuff.
Basically, what I'm saying is that I expect, and hope for, Kaladesh being South Asia meets Steampunk, not Steampunk meets Hinduism.
Hoping I'm wrong, it's hard to tell with so little still. It's possible I'm judging too early, but I am doubtful on that.
I'm not far removed enough to know what the 'common' tropes of India would be for the average person with only a little experience.
I should be clear that when I say "Indian" in this context, I'm talking about the Indian subcontinent. South Asian is probably the better term, you're right.
The things I would like to see represented are:
- Color is something India is known for and Holi and Diwali are instant recognizable
- Expand on what Tarkir started with non-western demon imagery. Devas instead of Angels. Very few western mythos creatures.
- Mughals and/or the British Raj, which the consuls seem to broadly be
- Class divisions between the artisan inventors and the poor
- If there is an Indian soap opera reference somehow I will die of laughter
- Keep it a melting pot, South Asia has always been relatively diverse.
- Unique creatures, South Asiant myths are full of things that have been untapped by fantasy. For instance, Vetala vampires, Venara, Garuda, etc.
What's funny is that Bant has a lot of Hindu and Buddhist characteristics. I think some of those ideas could carry over nicely.
... And yeah, I guess I've been a bit Hindu-centric here. South Asian is a hugely diverse place and there is a lot to tap.
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I'm hoping the trailer for Kaladesh is a Bollywood item song.
Kamigawa seems fine to me, I am worried about the opposite. Where instead it's just a really general knowledge deal that loses any of its depth.
Really looking forward to the plane and hoping that they will indeed introduce some new creature types, or at least use new names. A Garuda could still be a bird plus an extra type to slightly distinguish it from regular birds.
Also, I think now is the time for a legendary ape
RG 8-Whack
BWG Abzan midrange
GRB Living End
UWB Spirit Control
GU Kruphix's "Hug Assassin"
RW Kalemne's "Play Fatties and Hope for the Best!"
BUGW Atraxa's "All counters, all the time"
My point was that Kamigawa was heavily influenced by Shintoism. However I'd wager most people think Shinto is a kind of sushi. If you tap too deeply into something that a large enough section of your fanbase isn't familiar enough with your lore wont do so well. Everyone knows Greek myth so it wasn't hard for Theros to resonate strongly with the players. I'm not so sure Indian myth and culture will do so well.
Side Note: Do we have any other Desis on the board? Would any of your like a look see at my MTG Indian Influences article before it goes to publication (won't be for a while)? My wife is Bihari, and I'd like to get input from players all over.
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Hence my concern. I'm worried resonance will be such a focus that you'll wind up with a plane lacking in a lot of things that make a culture interesting. When talks about Kamigawa and resonance are brought up for instance the focus is often on samurai and ninja and how the spirits were too out there as a focus, which is very concerning. Though maybe they'll do it over a series of planes so eventually players get used to it, something like Tarkir with Sultai going to Kaladesh going to an even more in-depth look that could be seen as the equivalent to Kamigawa in terms of innate resonance. Players get acclimated to it so they can go a bit more out there.
Second of all, the theory you're talking about (which is VERY likely correct) is that Avacyn has been keeping Emrakul from fully entering the plane.
Third, Cary writes good stuff. No one forced you to read through the whole damn thing, and I didn't even link to it. I don't have a lot of respect for a lot of the dreck out there, but the Gathering Magic crew is solid. If you've got an axe to grind, please do it elsewhere.
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If you think that a single card is the equivalent of one tenth of a block, and a whopping one third of the new planes featured in said block, then yes, I guess Theros was a return.
That is however an incredibly laughable notion. It is even more ridiculous if one considers the fact that Nessian Courser was not designed for Theros, it was retroactively associated with it. The centaur in the art does not feature any of the characteristics that the centaurs in Theros do. Theros itself was not even thought of as an elevator-pitch when Nessian Courser's art name and flavour text were made.
Kaladesh however was designed to a considerable degree in Magic Origins, complete with a styleguide and backstory.
All that said, if Theros also had its debut as one tenth of a previous block, with a complete styleguide covering the aesthetics of the cards involved, then yes, I would have considered Theros to be a return to an already established plane.
Oh, missed this my last look through. I'd be interested in looking at it, though I don't think I could input anything. But it's fine if not, it just sounds interesting.
If you're a native speaker, it makes sense that's how you'd translate it. But you have to remember that much of this (like the use of Akhara) is likely the result of a google search for Hindi words sans context.
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