Since the discussion about the new storyline is spread around four different threads with a lot of the vorthos giving their opinions in different ways, I wanted to do something a little bit more formal and see what everyone thinks in numbers. If you want you can justify your vote down below, I will try to include enough options in the poll to cover more or less all the opinions that I saw without also making too many options and scaterring the whole thing.
In case you have no idea what this poll is about, this is what I mean:
While Gideon kept the Eldrazi titans focused on him, Jace shielded the minds of his companions from the reality-warping effects of Kozilek's presence. At the same time, Jace calculated the precise form of the pattern that could bind the Eldrazi, and guided Nissa in channeling the mana of the leylines to form the prison. Nissa's power held the Eldrazi in place, and she was also able to funnel additional mana to Chandra, fueling her magical fires. The titans beat furiously at the walls of flame that enclosed them, but they could not escape the magical prison. The intense heat scorched the skin of the Planeswalkers and their allies as they watched the Eldrazi's death throes. At last, the flames tore through the titans and consumed them. Ulamog and Kozilek were destroyed!
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It sucks. Honestly, this has been a problem with the 'writers' handling of the eldrazi this entire damn block, especially with the treatment of Ulamog from a lore perspective. The game has constantly stated that over the past five years how big of a threat the eldrazi are, yet we never really lost anyone important to them (they state in the art book how plant life INSTANTLY grows back after the titans are defeated). The phyrexians killed Vensir, Heliod killed Elspeth, and Sarkhan made a Tarkir that's horrible for humans. What happened to Zendikar? They lost some redshirts and other no-names.
The eldrazi are a fan favorite, and having two of the three die like this makes my inner-vorthos sad. I came for lovecraftian horror and all I got was an upset Timmy.
Also Wizards, after their post leak hissy fit, spoiled the entire climax of this story, as well as the beginning of the next one.
Well, we don't know if Ulamog and Kozilek are truly defeated yet, or if Jace and friends merely ended up releasing them into the multiverse. I don't see how the second option could be considered bad.
Edit: Never mind. Turns out they were indeed killed.
Since the discussion about the new storyline is spread around four different threads with a lot of the vorthos giving their opinions in different ways, I wanted to do something a little bit more formal and see what everyone thinks in numbers. If you want you can justify your vote down below, I will try to include enough options in the pool to cover more or less all the opinions that I saw without also making too many options and scaterring the whole thing.
In case you have no idea what this pool is about, this is what I mean:
While Gideon kept the Eldrazi titans focused on him, Jace shielded the minds of his companions from the reality-warping effects of Kozilek's presence. At the same time, Jace calculated the precise form of the pattern that could bind the Eldrazi, and guided Nissa in channeling the mana of the leylines to form the prison. Nissa's power held the Eldrazi in place, and she was also able to funnel additional mana to Chandra, fueling her magical fires. The titans beat furiously at the walls of flame that enclosed them, but they could not escape the magical prison. The intense heat scorched the skin of the Planeswalkers and their allies as they watched the Eldrazi's death throes. At last, the flames tore through the titans and consumed them. Ulamog and Kozilek were destroyed!
I think your poll is skewed towards "it sucks", seeing as there are two options for awful, one option for good, and one for abstinence (the ones that will wait).
In order to balance it out you need to add a neutral option and either add a mildly positive option or remove one of the negative ones.
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I think your poll is skewed towards "it sucks", seeing as there are two options for awful, one option for good, and one for abstinence (the ones that will wait).
In order to balance it out you need to add a neutral option and either add a mildly positive option or remove one of the negative ones.
I didn't make the poll with the intent of favoring one way of thinking over another. I made the options based on the types of opinions that I felt people were expressing when talking about the story in the other threads. Some said that they would wait, a few said they kinda liked/understood, and some felt disappointed while others felt incredible disappointed.
If you feel there is an opinion that I didn't represent, please, tell me which one is it. I want to point out that giving people two bad options was a way to separate between people who felt the story was bad, but not that bad, and the ones that felt it was pretty pretty bad. There were people that were neutral, and some that were in favor of it, but the spectrum of 'in favor' was not as clearly differentiated, ergo, just one option for that.
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My feeling is that Wizard is better off without complicated villains. Eldrazi being non-euclidian Lovecraftian monstrosities was difficult to flesh out in the new way of comic-storytelling, which is geared at clear antagonisms like the hero band vs bad guys who are dragons, vampires, zombies, evil phyrexian borgs etc.
I think that the Eldrazi COULD have been believably defeated, but not with the way the story appears to have gone. If trap for Ulamog at Sea Gate had been successful and allowed him to be re-imprisoned (maybe even killed), that would have been fine. However, with the disaster (from the hero's perspective) that was Ob Nixilis' attack and the emergence of Kozilek, I find it very hard to believe that the "backup plan" that a few neowalkers managed to quickly put together was better than anything Sorin and Nahiri could do after years of work.
I am still hopeful that the URs can give some explanation of how the vastly weaker neowalkers were able to succeed though. The only ones I can think of (though there could be others) is that either: 1) Jace was wrong, and didn't actually succeed in binding the Eldrazi to the plane, and his leyline pattern actually separated the their physical manifestations from their full power (which exists in the Blind Eternities), meaning that all the gatewatch did was send the titans elsewhere; or 2) the Mending weakened the Eldrazi. While this may be a bit of a retcon, as nothing we know about the Mending or the Eldrazi has stated this, it is fairly logical, and would be a believable explanation.
The main thing is that there MUST be some reason that the Eldrazi COULD be beaten by neowalkers when two oldwalkers couldn't do the job. It isn't about the specific story of the Eldrazi/zendikar, it is about the credibility of future threats. The primary reason for the Mending, from a writer's standpoint, was to provide a "restart" for the story, and to change walkers from godlike beings to relatable characters. By allowing neowalkers to defeat the most powerful beings in the known multiverse, it then becomes extremely difficult to believe that the Gatewatch is in any real danger from any future threat except for other planeswalkers. If they can beat the Eldrazi, then what (other than Nicol Bolas himself, not just his agents) actually poses a threat to them?
It sucks. Honestly, this has been a problem with the 'writers' handling of the eldrazi this entire damn block, especially with the treatment of Ulamog from a lore perspective. The game has constantly stated that over the past five years how big of a threat the eldrazi are, yet we never really lost anyone important to them (they state in the art book how plant life INSTANTLY grows back after the titans are defeated). The phyrexians killed Vensir, Heliod killed Elspeth, and Sarkhan made a Tarkir that's horrible for humans. What happened to Zendikar? They lost some redshirts and other no-names.
The eldrazi are a fan favorite, and having two of the three die like this makes my inner-vorthos sad. I came for lovecraftian horror and all I got was an upset Timmy.
Also Wizards, after their post leak hissy fit, spoiled the entire climax of this story, as well as the beginning of the next one.
Go read the flavor text again.
Its fine, really. Reminds me of something else I read where an elder god got laid out cold because he wasn't watching his back. More disappointed in the characters than the death of the Titans. I expected more Lovecraftian horror of the Conan variety, than straight Lovecraft. I still got my Lovecraft, though. A lot of the eldrazi cards had me going "what the **** is this thing", which is appropriate when facing a cosmic horror.
It sucks. Honestly, this has been a problem with the 'writers' handling of the eldrazi this entire damn block, especially with the treatment of Ulamog from a lore perspective. The game has constantly stated that over the past five years how big of a threat the eldrazi are, yet we never really lost anyone important to them (they state in the art book how plant life INSTANTLY grows back after the titans are defeated). The phyrexians killed Vensir, Heliod killed Elspeth, and Sarkhan made a Tarkir that's horrible for humans. What happened to Zendikar? They lost some redshirts and other no-names.
The eldrazi are a fan favorite, and having two of the three die like this makes my inner-vorthos sad. I came for lovecraftian horror and all I got was an upset Timmy.
Also Wizards, after their post leak hissy fit, spoiled the entire climax of this story, as well as the beginning of the next one.
Go read the flavor text again.
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Tarkir really is an awfull place for humanlife. Only in the Dromoka and Ojutai are humans not treated like second rate citizens. But even these two ''friendly'' clans wiped out all humanoids who did not agree with their theology. I believe the Temur suffered the most in their transition to the Atarka, though.
I'd like to read the UR version of the story, before making up my mind on how much I hate it. The hate is strong, yeah, didn't see that coming, after all so many others before have failed. Although it might make sense that it is mainly due to the long imprisonment.
Personally, I believe Ulamog's death isn't that surprising, because design-wise he, along with his brood, has the biggest problems distinguishing himself from the Phyrexians. The just look too similar, and just how many faceless skeleton squids can a format have.
The end of Kozilek on the other hand saddens me the more. Especially after Kiora's stories he grew on me a lot. And in combination with the twisted mind**** abilities and sick design of his brood, I feel like he came way too short.
It sucks. Honestly, this has been a problem with the 'writers' handling of the eldrazi this entire damn block, especially with the treatment of Ulamog from a lore perspective. The game has constantly stated that over the past five years how big of a threat the eldrazi are, yet we never really lost anyone important to them (they state in the art book how plant life INSTANTLY grows back after the titans are defeated). The phyrexians killed Vensir, Heliod killed Elspeth, and Sarkhan made a Tarkir that's horrible for humans. What happened to Zendikar? They lost some redshirts and other no-names.
The eldrazi are a fan favorite, and having two of the three die like this makes my inner-vorthos sad. I came for lovecraftian horror and all I got was an upset Timmy.
Also Wizards, after their post leak hissy fit, spoiled the entire climax of this story, as well as the beginning of the next one.
Go read the flavor text again.
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Tarkir really is awfull place for humanlife. Only in the Dromoka and Ojutai are humans not treated like second rate citizens. But even these two ''friendly'' clans wiped out all humanoids who did not agree with their theology. I belvieve the Temur suffered the most in their transition to the Atarka, though.
Circle of Elders says otherwise. The humans' satisfaction with life on Tarkir isn't any different from that of humans IRL: Some are loving it, some hate it. The difference is Tarkir has dragons instead of religion, terrorists, ongoing war, agencies that may or may not have a racial bias, and the aloof elite.
I can't say I really got attached to any of the 'Drazi other than Emrakul, but that's for reasons entirely unrelated to the storyline. What we had with the Titans were catalysts for our characters' growth.
I'd like to read the UR version of the story, before making up my mind on how much I hate it. The hate is strong, yeah, didn't see that coming, after all so many others before have failed. Although it might make sense that it is mainly due to the long imprisonment.
Personally, I believe Ulamog's death isn't that surprising, because design-wise he, along with his brood, has the biggest problems distinguishing himself from the Phyrexians. The just look too similar, and just how many faceless skeleton squids can a format have.
The end of Kozilek on the other hand saddens me the more. Especially after Kiora's stories he grew on me a lot. And in combination with the twisted mind**** abilities and sick design of his brood, I feel like he came way too short.
That's kind of what gets me. Ulamog has had a good run as the big Baddie of Zendikar for a while now, and it doesn't particularly feel like he was killed off "too quicklY" as they tried a great many things that failed before they killed him, leading to a showdown that at least has build up.
Unfortunately, given their new story telling philosophy, they had planned to show that Kozilek has returned *and* spoil the fact that he was going to be defeated in a few short weeks (Regardless of the fact that we knew he was returning a couple months ago). It honestly doesn't matter how in depth the story goes about explaining it. The end has been spoiled for us, officially. For a great example of where this has failed in the past can be seen with Terminator: Salvation, where the big surprise reveal in the movie that they were leading up to is spoiled in the bloody trailer for the film. So you watch the movie, see the director and writers trying really hard to allude to what is going on in subtle ways, and know in the back of your mind fully what is going to happen. It's like that kid who screams outside of a packed movie theater how the movie will end, only it's coming from an official source instead of a random jerk. At least you can try to believe that the jerk is lying to you; it's particularly hard to care about the end of a story when you find out what happens before it even started.
Couple this with the fact that it is very hard to accept that two titans were killed off in one go in the first place. It's rather anticlimatic when these beings which are presumably giant threats to the multiverse get smoked, *together*, in a relatively quick fashion. If they had taken down Ulamog, that would be fine as there was time for him to be at the fore-front and you could reasonably believe that they could do it, albeit with great effort and sacrifice. I could accept it, as at least that treads the realm of plausible. But both is hard to swallow, particularly given that Kozilek only just returned.
I thought this out come was terrible.. Not really because they died, but more that it felt rushed, a well we need to wrap this up and let the good guys win, anti-climatic win. First why was Ulamog killed, i thought there were cards the stated he was as indestructible as his card states he is, but was killed by fire?? Two, why didn't they explain the reason Ugin didn't want to try and kill them, I mean he wants to seal them up again, and pushes for it to happen, which leads me to think that they didn't have the power to actually kill them, especially sense Ugin, Sorin and Nihiri couldn't do it and they were way stronger than neo planeswalkers at the time. Third, you expect me to believe that after they got tortured by Ob Nixilus and drained of energy, even with Chandra barely fought him off, then they fought their way through an eldrazi army and STILL had the power (that apparently was not there before) to kill BOTH Titans? i mean even if we say Ulamog was weak due to the hedron circle, kozilek should of been high on power and way harder to kill. Unless they just found a way to channel power into Chandra turning her into a super saiyin old walker with god fire power, this just seems like a hammed out ending. As Emrakul is my fav Eldrazi, at least She possibly made off Zendikar, But i guess as the last Titan alive(?) and the strongest of the three, she'll probably get a cheesy ham death as well.
I thought this out come was terrible.. Not really because they died, but more that it felt rushed, a well we need to wrap this up and let the good guys win, anti-climatic win. First why was Ulamog killed, i thought there were cards the stated he was as indestructible as his card states he is, but was killed by fire?? Two, why didn't they explain the reason Ugin didn't want to try and kill them, I mean he wants to seal them up again, and pushes for it to happen, which leads me to think that they didn't have the power to actually kill them, especially sense Ugin, Sorin and Nihiri couldn't do it and they were way stronger than neo planeswalkers at the time. Third, you expect me to believe that after they got tortured by Ob Nixilus and drained of energy, even with Chandra barely fought him off, then they fought their way through an eldrazi army and STILL had the power (that apparently was not there before) to kill BOTH Titans? i mean even if we say Ulamog was weak due to the hedron circle, kozilek should of been high on power and way harder to kill. Unless they just found a way to channel power into Chandra turning her into a super saiyin old walker with god fire power, this just seems like a hammed out ending. As Emrakul is my fav Eldrazi, at least She possibly made off Zendikar, But i guess as the last Titan alive(?) and the strongest of the three, she'll probably get a cheesy ham death as well.
Ugin wants to imprison the Eldrazi not because he can't kill them but because he thinks their existance could have an unkown purpouse. You know, like the fable of the farmer that kills all the bats in his farm because they are disgusting, and then all his crops get devoured by the insects the bats preyed upon? Ugin wants to avoid a similar situation, were getting rid of all the Eldrazi could led to some unforeseen, greater consequences.
I thought this out come was terrible.. Not really because they died, but more that it felt rushed, a well we need to wrap this up and let the good guys win, anti-climatic win. First why was Ulamog killed, i thought there were cards the stated he was as indestructible as his card states he is, but was killed by fire?? Two, why didn't they explain the reason Ugin didn't want to try and kill them, I mean he wants to seal them up again, and pushes for it to happen, which leads me to think that they didn't have the power to actually kill them, especially sense Ugin, Sorin and Nihiri couldn't do it and they were way stronger than neo planeswalkers at the time. Third, you expect me to believe that after they got tortured by Ob Nixilus and drained of energy, even with Chandra barely fought him off, then they fought their way through an eldrazi army and STILL had the power (that apparently was not there before) to kill BOTH Titans? i mean even if we say Ulamog was weak due to the hedron circle, kozilek should of been high on power and way harder to kill. Unless they just found a way to channel power into Chandra turning her into a super saiyin old walker with god fire power, this just seems like a hammed out ending. As Emrakul is my fav Eldrazi, at least She possibly made off Zendikar, But i guess as the last Titan alive(?) and the strongest of the three, she'll probably get a cheesy ham death as well.
Ugin wants to imprison the Eldrazi not because he can't kill them but because he thinks their existance could have an unkown purpouse. You know, like the fable of the farmer that kills all the bats in his farm because they are disgusting, and then all his crops get devoured by the insects the bats preyed upon? Ugin wants to avoid a similar situation, were getting rid of all the Eldrazi could led to some unforeseen, greater consequences.
Such consequences could be a threat greater than the Eldrazi themselves, I suppose. Who knows what they're setting up for. I will wait to read everything. From my vantage point now, knowing what is spoiled but not having seen the final story, it is quite disappointing to see two Eldrazi titans go out like this.
And neo-walkers are just proving to be gods without being gods. The sheer fact Fat Pack inserts don't even want to acknowledge Thassa mopping the ocean floor with Kiora is embarrassing, let alone this.
That's it? They were beaten by tying them down and setting them on fire? Where's the consequence? Where's the pathos? Did any of the protagonists lose people they cared about, or had to make hard choices to win the battle? Feels pretty hollow, in my opinion.
That's it? They were beaten by tying them down and setting them on fire? Where's the consequence? Where's the pathos? Did any of the protagonists lose people they cared about, or had to make hard choices to win the battle? Feels pretty hollow, in my opinion.
Well, I mean it's not over yet. And the ending to the last article made it seem like the characters feel it to be hollow, too.
Honestly, at least the way the UR is going, it seems like it's a way to wrap up the Ugin/Kozilek plotline while leaving room for them to come back later.
I think part of why they're getting so soundly defeated is everyone realized that building them up into giant threats was dumb and problematic. Magic already has a real problem with having too many apocalyptic threats. Having three more that couldn't ever be stopped was not just incredibly cliche for the setting, but didn't offer any meaningful way to advance any of the given stories.
The Eldrazi aren't characters; they're a natural disaster. Not having a viewpoint character die to a natural disaster isn't a problem.
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As much as I understood the last chapter, they are done for good. The author clearly tried to make a point that they were being dragged 'down' to Zendikar and changed forms, showing their real selves in order to be able to be killed.
I feel like I am more ok with it now though, then I was when the story leaked. And it was not the writing.
Maybe some infos from the Artbook helped - calling Ulamog the smallest and weekest among them, and Kozilek next to him, while leaving open that there possibly could be more Eldrazi titans in the vast aeon of the multiverse.
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In case you have no idea what this poll is about, this is what I mean:
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Reaper King (a horror story), Kaalia of the Vast (an origin story), Sequels for Innistrad (Alternative sequels for Inn), Grey Areas (Odric's fanfic), Royal Succession (goblins),The Tracker's Message (eldrazi on Innistrad) and Ugin and his Eye (the end of OGW).
The eldrazi are a fan favorite, and having two of the three die like this makes my inner-vorthos sad. I came for lovecraftian horror and all I got was an upset Timmy.
Also Wizards, after their post leak hissy fit, spoiled the entire climax of this story, as well as the beginning of the next one.
Edit: Never mind. Turns out they were indeed killed.
Also, that piece of rhetoric reeks of Kreines.
UR Melek, Izzet ParagonUR, B Shirei, Shizo's CaretakerB, R Jaya Ballard, Task MageR,RW Tajic, Blade of the LegionRW, UB Lazav, Dimir MastermindUB, UB Circu, Dimir LobotomistUB, RWU Zedruu the GreatheartedRWU, GUBThe MimeoplasmGUB, UGExperiment Kraj UG, WDarien, King of KjeldorW, BMarrow-GnawerB, WBGKarador, Ghost ChieftainWBG, UTeferi, Temporal ArchmageU, GWUDerevi, Empyrial TacticianGWU, RDaretti, Scrap SavantR, UTalrand, Sky SummonerU, GEzuri, Renegade LeaderG, WUBRGReaper KingWUBRG, RGXenagos, God of RevelsRG, CKozilek, Butcher of TruthC, WUBRGGeneral TazriWUBRG, GTitania, Protector of ArgothG
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In order to balance it out you need to add a neutral option and either add a mildly positive option or remove one of the negative ones.
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If you feel there is an opinion that I didn't represent, please, tell me which one is it. I want to point out that giving people two bad options was a way to separate between people who felt the story was bad, but not that bad, and the ones that felt it was pretty pretty bad. There were people that were neutral, and some that were in favor of it, but the spectrum of 'in favor' was not as clearly differentiated, ergo, just one option for that.
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Reaper King (a horror story), Kaalia of the Vast (an origin story), Sequels for Innistrad (Alternative sequels for Inn), Grey Areas (Odric's fanfic), Royal Succession (goblins),The Tracker's Message (eldrazi on Innistrad) and Ugin and his Eye (the end of OGW).
I am still hopeful that the URs can give some explanation of how the vastly weaker neowalkers were able to succeed though. The only ones I can think of (though there could be others) is that either: 1) Jace was wrong, and didn't actually succeed in binding the Eldrazi to the plane, and his leyline pattern actually separated the their physical manifestations from their full power (which exists in the Blind Eternities), meaning that all the gatewatch did was send the titans elsewhere; or 2) the Mending weakened the Eldrazi. While this may be a bit of a retcon, as nothing we know about the Mending or the Eldrazi has stated this, it is fairly logical, and would be a believable explanation.
The main thing is that there MUST be some reason that the Eldrazi COULD be beaten by neowalkers when two oldwalkers couldn't do the job. It isn't about the specific story of the Eldrazi/zendikar, it is about the credibility of future threats. The primary reason for the Mending, from a writer's standpoint, was to provide a "restart" for the story, and to change walkers from godlike beings to relatable characters. By allowing neowalkers to defeat the most powerful beings in the known multiverse, it then becomes extremely difficult to believe that the Gatewatch is in any real danger from any future threat except for other planeswalkers. If they can beat the Eldrazi, then what (other than Nicol Bolas himself, not just his agents) actually poses a threat to them?
Go read the flavor text again.
Its fine, really. Reminds me of something else I read where an elder god got laid out cold because he wasn't watching his back. More disappointed in the characters than the death of the Titans. I expected more Lovecraftian horror of the Conan variety, than straight Lovecraft. I still got my Lovecraft, though. A lot of the eldrazi cards had me going "what the **** is this thing", which is appropriate when facing a cosmic horror.
The Vorthos community will await the consequences of the Eldrazi Titans' deaths/sealing. We will keep the watch.
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Tarkir really is an awfull place for humanlife. Only in the Dromoka and Ojutai are humans not treated like second rate citizens. But even these two ''friendly'' clans wiped out all humanoids who did not agree with their theology. I believe the Temur suffered the most in their transition to the Atarka, though.
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Personally, I believe Ulamog's death isn't that surprising, because design-wise he, along with his brood, has the biggest problems distinguishing himself from the Phyrexians. The just look too similar, and just how many faceless skeleton squids can a format have.
The end of Kozilek on the other hand saddens me the more. Especially after Kiora's stories he grew on me a lot. And in combination with the twisted mind**** abilities and sick design of his brood, I feel like he came way too short.
Circle of Elders says otherwise. The humans' satisfaction with life on Tarkir isn't any different from that of humans IRL: Some are loving it, some hate it. The difference is Tarkir has dragons instead of religion, terrorists, ongoing war, agencies that may or may not have a racial bias, and the aloof elite.
I can't say I really got attached to any of the 'Drazi other than Emrakul, but that's for reasons entirely unrelated to the storyline. What we had with the Titans were catalysts for our characters' growth.
That's kind of what gets me. Ulamog has had a good run as the big Baddie of Zendikar for a while now, and it doesn't particularly feel like he was killed off "too quicklY" as they tried a great many things that failed before they killed him, leading to a showdown that at least has build up.
Unfortunately, given their new story telling philosophy, they had planned to show that Kozilek has returned *and* spoil the fact that he was going to be defeated in a few short weeks (Regardless of the fact that we knew he was returning a couple months ago). It honestly doesn't matter how in depth the story goes about explaining it. The end has been spoiled for us, officially. For a great example of where this has failed in the past can be seen with Terminator: Salvation, where the big surprise reveal in the movie that they were leading up to is spoiled in the bloody trailer for the film. So you watch the movie, see the director and writers trying really hard to allude to what is going on in subtle ways, and know in the back of your mind fully what is going to happen. It's like that kid who screams outside of a packed movie theater how the movie will end, only it's coming from an official source instead of a random jerk. At least you can try to believe that the jerk is lying to you; it's particularly hard to care about the end of a story when you find out what happens before it even started.
Couple this with the fact that it is very hard to accept that two titans were killed off in one go in the first place. It's rather anticlimatic when these beings which are presumably giant threats to the multiverse get smoked, *together*, in a relatively quick fashion. If they had taken down Ulamog, that would be fine as there was time for him to be at the fore-front and you could reasonably believe that they could do it, albeit with great effort and sacrifice. I could accept it, as at least that treads the realm of plausible. But both is hard to swallow, particularly given that Kozilek only just returned.
Such consequences could be a threat greater than the Eldrazi themselves, I suppose. Who knows what they're setting up for. I will wait to read everything. From my vantage point now, knowing what is spoiled but not having seen the final story, it is quite disappointing to see two Eldrazi titans go out like this.
And neo-walkers are just proving to be gods without being gods. The sheer fact Fat Pack inserts don't even want to acknowledge Thassa mopping the ocean floor with Kiora is embarrassing, let alone this.
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Cards I still want to see created:
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I think part of why they're getting so soundly defeated is everyone realized that building them up into giant threats was dumb and problematic. Magic already has a real problem with having too many apocalyptic threats. Having three more that couldn't ever be stopped was not just incredibly cliche for the setting, but didn't offer any meaningful way to advance any of the given stories.
The Eldrazi aren't characters; they're a natural disaster. Not having a viewpoint character die to a natural disaster isn't a problem.
I feel like I am more ok with it now though, then I was when the story leaked. And it was not the writing.
Maybe some infos from the Artbook helped - calling Ulamog the smallest and weekest among them, and Kozilek next to him, while leaving open that there possibly could be more Eldrazi titans in the vast aeon of the multiverse.