Yeah this game is just sometimes pretty art and mechanics.
I don't understand why anyone would care for the story. I expected the Eldrazi to at least destroy Zendikar. I'm just done. I wanted to play Magic back when the story was good. Yawgmoth is one the best villains ever.
Now I'm waiting for Venser to come back to life and to have everyone cured of Phyrexian oil.
I just can't bear this story and the awful ending.
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So after reading, then skimming through the last couple pages of this thread I have come to one conclusion:
Oldwalkers are so stupidly powerful that just from the mere fact they existed Neowalkers will never be able to walk the fine line of believable. Not powerful enough, "There just a mage with a spark!" Impressive feat of teamwork "But they aren't even oldwalkers!1!!"
Honestly the community just needs to stop comparing one with the other. Oldwalkers were bad from a writers perspective, Neowalkers need to be able to scrape out a win. It's ok.
So after reading, then skimming through the last couple pages of this thread I have come to one conclusion:
Oldwalkers are so stupidly powerful that just from the mere fact they existed Neowalkers will never be able to walk the fine line of believable. Not powerful enough, "There just a mage with a spark!" Impressive feat of teamwork "But they aren't even oldwalkers!1!!"
Honestly the community just needs to stop comparing one with the other. Oldwalkers were bad from a writers perspective, Neowalkers need to be able to scrape out a win. It's ok.
I agree that Oldwalkers were a bad idea that needed to be fixed but even just given what we've been told in BFZ it is insane that
Chandra can just kill two Eldrazi titans. And not just that but two titans as the absolute height of their power. Remember they're losing against "the fingers" and Jace's plan is to "drag in the whole body".
Not true. Oldwalkers where more of catalysts then the characters you rooted for. Urza setted the stage. Gerrard and crew where the ones you identified with.
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I agree that Oldwalkers were a bad idea that needed to be fixed but even just given what we've been told in BFZ it is insane that
Chandra can just kill two Eldrazi titans. And not just that but two titans as the absolute height of their power. Remember they're losing against "the fingers" and Jace's plan is to "drag in the whole body".
I'm pretty sure Chandra is getting a surge of power through the Leylines. They're basically doing the 'kill them with the hedrons power' plan, sans Hedrons.
So after reading, then skimming through the last couple pages of this thread I have come to one conclusion:
Oldwalkers are so stupidly powerful that just from the mere fact they existed Neowalkers will never be able to walk the fine line of believable. Not powerful enough, "There just a mage with a spark!" Impressive feat of teamwork "But they aren't even oldwalkers!1!!"
Honestly the community just needs to stop comparing one with the other. Oldwalkers were bad from a writers perspective, Neowalkers need to be able to scrape out a win. It's ok.
Them winning wouldn't be a problem if they made the eldrazi feel threatening,like a legitimate force,zendikar should of been destroyed in the process or at least one of the walkers should of died.Old walkers are bad for writing,but what's the point if neo walkers look nearly the same by having one of them literally hold back ulamog like a freaking line backer and then brush it off and have a tussle with a demon planeswalker moments later?My complaint isn't that they beat them as much as its how and the lack of consequences for battling a god like being.This all reeks of business getting in the way of storytelling.
Why does it seem like people are assuming that Fall of the Titans is happening tomorrow or next week? As if there's not a ton of work, planning and fighting to be done before March comes and they actually execute the events shown on the cards?
Why does it seem like people are assuming that Fall of the Titans is happening tomorrow or next week? As if there's not a ton of work, planning and fighting to be done before March comes and they actually execute the events shown on the cards?
PATIENCE
It doesn't really matter when it happens.
Assuming that Bonds of Mortality and Fall of the Titans accurately represent the conclusion of the storyline its completely absurd.
The thing with a new hope comparison is that inbetween all that,Alderaan was destroyed and obiwan was killed,thus making the empire feel threatening.Zendikar wasn't destroyed and we didn't loose a single planeswalker.
Who is to say that they didn't try to kill them? They most likely have done so otherwise how would they know that it is pointless?
The Lithomancer only implies that Sorin and Nahiri met very recently. They may have fought the brood lineage on the unnamed plane, but there is no indication they ever tried to take on a Titan.
It is unreasonable because of the unfathomable gap in power between oldwalkers and neowalkers. You can't deny that such a huge gap exists.
''Ugin is not an expert fighter'' yes, but does it matter when you are a immortal being with godlike powers? They way the eldrazi were presented now makes me doubt that they could do any damage at all to oldwalker Ugin.
God-like being the key term there. Even oldwalkers could be overwhelmed and killed by relative chumps. Why do you think it took Urza thousands of years to finally defeat Phyrexia?
Even the old walkers could be overwhelmed by sheer numbers and needed armies to help them fight unfathomable hordes.
Well the phyrexians were only a part of the problem. They were basically fighting what was effectively a living plane. And even if you managed to blow thru chumps and destroy chunks of planes there was still the godlike Yawgmoth himself. I'm fairly certain old Urza could solve the Mirridon problem rather quickly. Now oldwalkers still had weaknesses... like still being themselves and bound by their mortal follies despite gaining near omnipotence and the whole if you hit them just right in the right spot thing that allowed Yawgmoth to ever get his first planeswalker
Yes, I KNOW that if you kill the titan's avatar that you free him. Everybody knows that. HOWEVER that was
never the problem. When I read ''BOUND TO REALITY'' I literally mean ''pulled from the Eternities and bound
on Zendikar.'' But that can't be, right? Surely we would have heard about this before.
Wait, we did. The ending was more less spoiled in the previous set.
Where is that UR...
Ah, here it is. A part of the ''great research'' that people have done but have probably forgotten about.
Here, have this nice, big, juicy pile of foreshadowing.
"But the hedrons don't just direct leylines," said Jace, thinking fast. "They store energy. Vast amounts of it. That's how they pulled the Eldrazi in to begin with, isn't it?"
It was a guess, but it seemed a reasonable one.
"Correct," said Ugin. "Your point?"
Jace's mind raced.
If the hedrons could pull, then couldn't they pull harder? With enough power, couldn't they be used to draw the Eldrazi fully into the physical realm? If you had a spike through a man's hand, you could do a lot more than hold him there. You could pull him into the pond. And then . . .
This is the unfortunate heavy implication that it were THE Ulamog and Kozilek.
This is what JACE thinks. He does not have such extensive knowledge what the Eldrazi really are. For him, they are just another type of powerful beasts (kinda like Garruk). He does not share this thought with Ugin, otherwise the Spirit Dragon maybe told him that it is not possible.
All in all, they (and we with them) are led to believe that they indeed destroyed THE Titans.
But even Chas Andres in the preview article writes that:
Whoa. First off, let's take a moment and discuss the story implications of these two cards. Although the fate of Zendikar is still unknown, Emrakul is still missing, and I'm still not sure an Eldrazi titan can ever be fully wiped from the Multiverse, this looks an awful lot like a victory to me
It is the setting up for a future "surprise" return.
Though I agree that how they handled the whole narrative is bad.
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Them winning wouldn't be a problem if they made the eldrazi feel threatening,like a legitimate force,zendikar should of been destroyed in the process or at least one of the walkers should of died.Old walkers are bad for writing,but what's the point if neo walkers look nearly the same by having one of them literally hold back ulamog like a freaking line backer and then brush it off and have a tussle with a demon planeswalker moments later?My complaint isn't that they beat them as much as its how and the lack of consequences for battling a god like being.This all reeks of business getting in the way of storytelling.
Kiora is your death, and consequence for hubris, even if no one here is convinced she is actually dead. Zendikar is still massively destroyed, like what one or two whole continents are dust along with large swaths of the remaining land. Can you imagine North America and Asia just being dust and bismuth?
As far as Gideon's fight with Nixilis after holding off Ulamog. The entire start of this story was showing how Gideon. Just. Keeps. Going. Dude is tireless going from Zendikar to Ravnica back and forth for how long? His stamina is second only to his shiny invulnerability. That is established right from the get go.
I'm not trying to excuse the problems with the storytelling, but the pieces are all there. It's just the way it's presented makes you work for it, but that has always been a problem. It doesn't seem to be correcting itself in this "new age" for creative, it might just be inherent for a card game plot that is bound to weekly intervals.
People need to have some patience. Based on what we know now (Ugin UR+paraphrase of Art book+flavor text of cards+preview article) it simply is not clear whether the superfriends permanently killed the full, Blind Eternities based Titans, or simply inflicted enough damage to their hands/shadows that they left Zendikar. The former would be an unbelievable, plot inconsistent, disappointing example of poor writing. The latter is a perfectly reasonable outcome which the oldwalkers also could have achieved, but did not want to, because it is emotional and short-sighted. It's the outcome I've been expecting all along.
We'll know more when we get a more thorough analysis of the art book, and more still when the fat pack synopsis comes out, but we won't know for sure til the URs at the end of April. No need to get so animated about the ending until we know for certain what it is.
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People need to have some patience. Based on what we know now (Ugin UR+paraphrase of Art book+flavor text of cards+preview article) it simply is not clear whether the superfriends permanently killed the full, Blind Eternities based Titans, or simply inflicted enough damage to their hands/shadows that they left Zendikar. The former would be an unbelievable, plot inconsistent, disappointing example of poor writing. The latter is a perfectly reasonable outcome which the oldwalkers also could have achieved, but did not want to, because it is emotional and short-sighted. It's the outcome I've been expecting all along.
Many people are saying that. That's why I wrote this a couple pages back:
"Meanwhile, those resolute enough to continue the defence are now offering that the recent developments might not be so bad after all, considering that only the physical manifestations of the Eldrazi have been destroyed. However, what isn't pointed out is this: If the Eldrazi's physical forms can be destroyed with fire/ghostfire/reversing the polarity of the flux capacitor/whatever, why should we be afraid of them? Who cares if they get angry, and scream "you may have won the battle, but not the war!" They've now had zero wins and two losses, with their second coming by way of knockout. That's not a good track record for "the most powerful beings of all".
The damage they did to Zendikar can be repaired. They killed no one who matters. And then they went out like chumps, defeated by people with different coloured suits combining their powers. This story has been told before, in every single episode of Power Rangers.
So I ask you again, why should we care? What could cosmic knuckle-heads from beyond possibly do against the omnipotent Gatewatch? If the Eldrazi return in even bigger bodies, all that is needed to beat them is even more fire."
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It seems like they were only made vulnerable to the fire by leyline/Hedron plot contrivances specific to Zendikar. In the Ugin UR he was insistent they should be kept on Zen because they would be easier to handle there. While I agree that not killing a known planeswalker makes their threat too much told instead of shown, they did wreck multiple continents and wipe out maybe a third to two thirds of the planet's population. Even if the Gatewatch could replicate that on every planet the Eldrazi visit they (the Gatewatch) would be losing big time. The Eldrazi aren't really characters so much as natural disasters -- and if you find that you can push a tornado from one state to another, you haven't really made any progress on solving your tornado problem.
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People need to have some patience. Based on what we know now (Ugin UR+paraphrase of Art book+flavor text of cards+preview article) it simply is not clear whether the superfriends permanently killed the full, Blind Eternities based Titans, or simply inflicted enough damage to their hands/shadows that they left Zendikar. The former would be an unbelievable, plot inconsistent, disappointing example of poor writing. The latter is a perfectly reasonable outcome...
But here's the thing though: I and many others here don't agree that it IS a perfectly reasonable outcome. I tried to explain by quoting one of my previous posts, but the mods deleted it, so I'll simply advise you to read the rest of the thread so that you better understand the sources of our ire.
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Why does it seem like people are assuming that Fall of the Titans is happening tomorrow or next week? As if there's not a ton of work, planning and fighting to be done before March comes and they actually execute the events shown on the cards?
PATIENCE
It doesn't really matter when it happens.
Assuming that Bonds of Mortality and Fall of the Titans accurately represent the conclusion of the storyline its completely absurd.
Assuming that ... accurately...
Okay, so what about holding all the vitriol after the assumptions cease to be assumptions?
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Them winning wouldn't be a problem if they made the eldrazi feel threatening,like a legitimate force,zendikar should of been destroyed in the process or at least one of the walkers should of died.Old walkers are bad for writing,but what's the point if neo walkers look nearly the same by having one of them literally hold back ulamog like a freaking line backer and then brush it off and have a tussle with a demon planeswalker moments later?My complaint isn't that they beat them as much as its how and the lack of consequences for battling a god like being.This all reeks of business getting in the way of storytelling.
Kiora is your death, and consequence for hubris, even if no one here is convinced she is actually dead. Zendikar is still massively destroyed, like what one or two whole continents are dust along with large swaths of the remaining land. Can you imagine North America and Asia just being dust and bismuth?
As far as Gideon's fight with Nixilis after holding off Ulamog. The entire start of this story was showing how Gideon. Just. Keeps. Going. Dude is tireless going from Zendikar to Ravnica back and forth for how long? His stamina is second only to his shiny invulnerability. That is established right from the get go.
I'm not trying to excuse the problems with the storytelling, but the pieces are all there. It's just the way it's presented makes you work for it, but that has always been a problem. It doesn't seem to be correcting itself in this "new age" for creative, it might just be inherent for a card game plot that is bound to weekly intervals.
But Kiora is not dead,and zendikar is still there,the eldrazi m.o is to eat planes,but they didn't and have not since rise of eldrazi began.If they want to keep popular cash cow planes they should of at least destroyed kamigawa,as it stands right now eldrazi 0 planeswalkers 2.Gideon is still human and they've yet to show any damage on him besides ,"he's tired"
his muscles could of torn at least,not even die,just have him incapacitated for a while until healed.It makes one of the big three threats of the multiverse, if not the biggest,seem weak.
Why does it seem like people are assuming that Fall of the Titans is happening tomorrow or next week? As if there's not a ton of work, planning and fighting to be done before March comes and they actually execute the events shown on the cards?
Well, maybe it will be better when explained, right? It just doesn't feel great when your favorite cosmic horrors get beaten by sculpty, whippy, planty and burny.
Zendikar Resurgent
The battle was won, though the war was far from over. Inspired by the victory, the soldiers of Zendikar fought with renewed courage against the teeming Eldrazi broods. For the first time, the Eldrazi showed something akin to fear. They were no longer willing to stand their ground in the face of certain death, and the hordes were scattered. All across Zendikar, the beleaguered people of the plane found new strength for the fight and drove the Eldrazi away from the remnants of civilization.
Exhausted, the four Planeswalkers looked down on the glyph they had seared into the ground, amid the ashes and charred remains of the Eldrazi titans. Even as they stood watching, the blackened lines of the glyph began to writhe and then erupted with verdant growth. Grass burst up from the blasted earth with unnatural speed, and twisting vines spread along the lines of the glyph. Nissa smiled at the knowledge that new life lay ahead for Zendikar.
Lands ravaged, cities in ruins, so many lives sacrificed—and yet there was no other word for it but victory." —from The Halimar Chronicle
As glorious as a victory as they had won, the members of the Gatewatch all knew that the three Eldrazi titans has been unleashed upon Zendikar. Though Emrakul had not been seen in weeks, the third titan was still alive somewhere—perhaps slumbering in the earth or sea as Kozilek had been, perhaps on some other plane. The work of the Gatewatch was not yet done.
So the planeswalkers formed a new plan. Jace would leave Zendikar in search of Sorin Markov and Nahiri, who had abandoned Zendikar to the Eldrazi. Perhaps they would know how Emrakul might be found or had heard some word of where the third titan had already gone. Gideon, Nissa, and Chandra, meanwhile, would split up and search Zendikar for any sign of Emrakul. Along the way, they would help the people of Zendikar eliminate the remaining Eldrazi broods and rebuild what the Eldrazi had destroyed. They agreed to reconvene at Sea Gate, for as long as one Eldrazi titan remained, the Multiverse still had need of the Gatewatch.
Well, I'm pretty satisfied, but I suspect I interact with fictional works differently than most people.
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Thing is it speaks to the on plane results. We still don't know what the fate of the full forms of the two are. Destroying the physical manifestations is all well and good for now but there's still a lot we don't know and I will still urge patience. I'm sure the naysayers willuse this to redouble thier righteous fury but I still think theres not enough to make a judgement by yet.
The art book states that Kiora left Zendikar in despair, and is probably going to be doing some serious soul-searching. The book's blurb about her basically paints her as being obsessed in her objective to use sea monsters to destroy the Eldrazi, and not really considering the consequences of her actions. This is pretty in line with MaRo's article about the Simic from 2006:
The result of this internal conflict is that the Simic are quite mad and a little bit paranoid. They are so focused on their task at hand and so in denial of what cause they are advancing that Green/Blue follows its own fevered style of logic. Experiments naturally lead from one to the next without the Simic ever stopping to really understand what they've done. This obsession is so strong that they lose all other focus. To put it another way, the Izzet are the absent minded professors of Ravnica. The Simic are the mad scientists.
Seems like they're setting her up for some future storyline to realize the consequences of what she's done, and probably fueled by the guilt she feels at leaving Zendikar -- specifically, her sister -- to fend for itself.
The art book also had a lot of new art for cards not yet spoiled, including a shot of all of the Gatewatch planeswalkers cutting their way through a swath of Eldrazi named "March of the Gatewatch." Interestingly, the art for Call of the Gatewatch was labeled as "Survival Instincts" in the book. Also, the art of the Game Day playmat is called "Zendikar Resurgent."
Here are a few art pieces that haven't been spoiled as cards yet:
Breaker of Horizons (a very large Eldrazi of Kozilek's brood)
Prophet of Distortion (a slighly smaller Kozilek-brood Eldrazi)
Tears of Valakut (hedron floating next to an erupting Valakut)
Null Caller (Vampire with hand on crouched null's head)
Tajuru Path Warden (elf riding on the back of a baloth)
There are also several landscape-orientation art pieces of locales on Zendikar simply referred to as "Tazeem," and "Ondu," which may be suggestive of another Planechase supplemental product, possibly in May/June 2016.
Finally, there was a lot of insight into Emrakul's effect on living beings. It strongly implies that Emrakul turns living things into spawn of her lineage (so for you people complaining that this makes them too much like the Phyrexians, sorry). In fact, it discusses this opposite a full art spread of Rush of Ice, which, up close, seems to resemble a human that has been turned into an Eldrazi drone. So Emrakul is sufficiently creeeeeepy.
Thing is it speaks to the on plane results. We still don't know what the fate of the full forms of the two are. Destroying the physical manifestations is all well and good for now but there's still a lot we don't know and I will still urge patience. I'm sure the naysayers willuse this to redouble thier righteous fury but I still think theres not enough to make a judgement by yet.
The book strongly implies that there will be a far greater price to pay for the outright destruction of the Eldrazi than just releasing them to the blind eternities. As in, Ugin believes them to be a part of the Multiversal ecosystem, and that the Eldrazi destroy planes at about the same rate at which new planes are created. He figured that if they took a break for a couple thousand years it wouldn't be a big deal, but that there may be serious implications if they were just destroyed entirely.
The book strongly implies that there will be a far greater price to pay for the outright destruction of the Eldrazi than just releasing them to the blind eternities. As in, Ugin believes them to be a part of the Multiversal ecosystem, and that the Eldrazi destroy planes at about the same rate at which new planes are created. He figured that if they took a break for a couple thousand years it wouldn't be a big deal, but that there may be serious implications if they were just destroyed entirely.
The idea that Ugin just wanted the Eldrazi to chill for a while is held up by the fact that the Hedron Prison nearly failed twice, though the 2nd time was most likely due to the Hedrons being damaged/mess with. Makes me wonder if Ugin would have come that 2nd time if he hadn't been chilling in his cocoon/dead.
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I don't understand why anyone would care for the story. I expected the Eldrazi to at least destroy Zendikar. I'm just done. I wanted to play Magic back when the story was good. Yawgmoth is one the best villains ever.
Now I'm waiting for Venser to come back to life and to have everyone cured of Phyrexian oil.
I just can't bear this story and the awful ending.
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Oldwalkers are so stupidly powerful that just from the mere fact they existed Neowalkers will never be able to walk the fine line of believable. Not powerful enough, "There just a mage with a spark!" Impressive feat of teamwork "But they aren't even oldwalkers!1!!"
Honestly the community just needs to stop comparing one with the other. Oldwalkers were bad from a writers perspective, Neowalkers need to be able to scrape out a win. It's ok.
I kinda expected another seal of some kind but not destruction...
I agree that Oldwalkers were a bad idea that needed to be fixed but even just given what we've been told in BFZ it is insane that
Not true. Oldwalkers where more of catalysts then the characters you rooted for. Urza setted the stage. Gerrard and crew where the ones you identified with.
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Them winning wouldn't be a problem if they made the eldrazi feel threatening,like a legitimate force,zendikar should of been destroyed in the process or at least one of the walkers should of died.Old walkers are bad for writing,but what's the point if neo walkers look nearly the same by having one of them literally hold back ulamog like a freaking line backer and then brush it off and have a tussle with a demon planeswalker moments later?My complaint isn't that they beat them as much as its how and the lack of consequences for battling a god like being.This all reeks of business getting in the way of storytelling.
PATIENCE
It doesn't really matter when it happens.
Assuming that Bonds of Mortality and Fall of the Titans accurately represent the conclusion of the storyline its completely absurd.
Well the phyrexians were only a part of the problem. They were basically fighting what was effectively a living plane. And even if you managed to blow thru chumps and destroy chunks of planes there was still the godlike Yawgmoth himself. I'm fairly certain old Urza could solve the Mirridon problem rather quickly. Now oldwalkers still had weaknesses... like still being themselves and bound by their mortal follies despite gaining near omnipotence and the whole if you hit them just right in the right spot thing that allowed Yawgmoth to ever get his first planeswalker
This is what JACE thinks. He does not have such extensive knowledge what the Eldrazi really are. For him, they are just another type of powerful beasts (kinda like Garruk). He does not share this thought with Ugin, otherwise the Spirit Dragon maybe told him that it is not possible.
All in all, they (and we with them) are led to believe that they indeed destroyed THE Titans.
But even Chas Andres in the preview article writes that:
It is the setting up for a future "surprise" return.
Though I agree that how they handled the whole narrative is bad.
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Kiora is your death, and consequence for hubris, even if no one here is convinced she is actually dead. Zendikar is still massively destroyed, like what one or two whole continents are dust along with large swaths of the remaining land. Can you imagine North America and Asia just being dust and bismuth?
As far as Gideon's fight with Nixilis after holding off Ulamog. The entire start of this story was showing how Gideon. Just. Keeps. Going. Dude is tireless going from Zendikar to Ravnica back and forth for how long? His stamina is second only to his shiny invulnerability. That is established right from the get go.
I'm not trying to excuse the problems with the storytelling, but the pieces are all there. It's just the way it's presented makes you work for it, but that has always been a problem. It doesn't seem to be correcting itself in this "new age" for creative, it might just be inherent for a card game plot that is bound to weekly intervals.
We'll know more when we get a more thorough analysis of the art book, and more still when the fat pack synopsis comes out, but we won't know for sure til the URs at the end of April. No need to get so animated about the ending until we know for certain what it is.
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Many people are saying that. That's why I wrote this a couple pages back:
"Meanwhile, those resolute enough to continue the defence are now offering that the recent developments might not be so bad after all, considering that only the physical manifestations of the Eldrazi have been destroyed. However, what isn't pointed out is this: If the Eldrazi's physical forms can be destroyed with fire/ghostfire/reversing the polarity of the flux capacitor/whatever, why should we be afraid of them? Who cares if they get angry, and scream "you may have won the battle, but not the war!" They've now had zero wins and two losses, with their second coming by way of knockout. That's not a good track record for "the most powerful beings of all".
The damage they did to Zendikar can be repaired. They killed no one who matters. And then they went out like chumps, defeated by people with different coloured suits combining their powers. This story has been told before, in every single episode of Power Rangers.
So I ask you again, why should we care? What could cosmic knuckle-heads from beyond possibly do against the omnipotent Gatewatch? If the Eldrazi return in even bigger bodies, all that is needed to beat them is even more fire."
-- The Gatewatch
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But here's the thing though: I and many others here don't agree that it IS a perfectly reasonable outcome. I tried to explain by quoting one of my previous posts, but the mods deleted it, so I'll simply advise you to read the rest of the thread so that you better understand the sources of our ire.
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Assuming that ... accurately...
Okay, so what about holding all the vitriol after the assumptions cease to be assumptions?
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But Kiora is not dead,and zendikar is still there,the eldrazi m.o is to eat planes,but they didn't and have not since rise of eldrazi began.If they want to keep popular cash cow planes they should of at least destroyed kamigawa,as it stands right now eldrazi 0 planeswalkers 2.Gideon is still human and they've yet to show any damage on him besides ,"he's tired"
his muscles could of torn at least,not even die,just have him incapacitated for a while until healed.It makes one of the big three threats of the multiverse, if not the biggest,seem weak.
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Well, I'm pretty satisfied, but I suspect I interact with fictional works differently than most people.
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Thing is it speaks to the on plane results. We still don't know what the fate of the full forms of the two are. Destroying the physical manifestations is all well and good for now but there's still a lot we don't know and I will still urge patience. I'm sure the naysayers willuse this to redouble thier righteous fury but I still think theres not enough to make a judgement by yet.
Seems like they're setting her up for some future storyline to realize the consequences of what she's done, and probably fueled by the guilt she feels at leaving Zendikar -- specifically, her sister -- to fend for itself.
The art book also had a lot of new art for cards not yet spoiled, including a shot of all of the Gatewatch planeswalkers cutting their way through a swath of Eldrazi named "March of the Gatewatch." Interestingly, the art for Call of the Gatewatch was labeled as "Survival Instincts" in the book. Also, the art of the Game Day playmat is called "Zendikar Resurgent."
Here are a few art pieces that haven't been spoiled as cards yet:
Breaker of Horizons (a very large Eldrazi of Kozilek's brood)
Prophet of Distortion (a slighly smaller Kozilek-brood Eldrazi)
Tears of Valakut (hedron floating next to an erupting Valakut)
Null Caller (Vampire with hand on crouched null's head)
Tajuru Path Warden (elf riding on the back of a baloth)
There are also several landscape-orientation art pieces of locales on Zendikar simply referred to as "Tazeem," and "Ondu," which may be suggestive of another Planechase supplemental product, possibly in May/June 2016.
Finally, there was a lot of insight into Emrakul's effect on living beings. It strongly implies that Emrakul turns living things into spawn of her lineage (so for you people complaining that this makes them too much like the Phyrexians, sorry). In fact, it discusses this opposite a full art spread of Rush of Ice, which, up close, seems to resemble a human that has been turned into an Eldrazi drone. So Emrakul is sufficiently creeeeeepy.
EDIT:
The book strongly implies that there will be a far greater price to pay for the outright destruction of the Eldrazi than just releasing them to the blind eternities. As in, Ugin believes them to be a part of the Multiversal ecosystem, and that the Eldrazi destroy planes at about the same rate at which new planes are created. He figured that if they took a break for a couple thousand years it wouldn't be a big deal, but that there may be serious implications if they were just destroyed entirely.
The idea that Ugin just wanted the Eldrazi to chill for a while is held up by the fact that the Hedron Prison nearly failed twice, though the 2nd time was most likely due to the Hedrons being damaged/mess with. Makes me wonder if Ugin would have come that 2nd time if he hadn't been chilling in his cocoon/dead.