I know these stories are different from Lovecraft's, but in Lovecraft's stories you would NEVER see the Terror from Beyond talking to you and explaning his evil plan or motivations, you had minions that adored it (much like the pilgrims that Jace encountered) and you had characters such as Nyarlathotep or Abdul Alhazred to interpret their intentions or name their motivations. That being said, these characters could have been wrong or could have been sending us just a poor impression of what the fathomless entities that they adore or represent are really up to. In any case, I don't want to see a story where Ulamog is the main character, where we see his way of thinking, etc. That would take away what makes them so alien to us, and that is why once you seek explanations for that, you are ruining the whole concept of the stuff.
And this is why, as I've said many times before, the Eldrazi tell a terrible story if you're not willing to commit. If you're afraid to destroy popular worlds, you fail. If you're afraid to have them be unassailable, you've failed. Wizards isn't going to destroy popular planes and they want their Planeswalkers to be "crazy awesum and koolz" so they're not going to have to face being impotent before a force they simply cannot oppose.
No because most living beings care about life. Eldrazi work on Orange/Blue morality so what they "want" isn't considered.
That's not what Blue and Orange morality is. Those with it have morals, but they're super weird and probably only make sense to the guy they belong to. The Eldrazi have no morals as far as we know. They're just doing what their instincts tell them.
Of course, this is somewhat of a retcon. Around the time of the original Zendikar, we were told that the Eldrazi think in ways we don't understand, and not that they're driven by instinct. The Zendikar novel also had "ancient Eldrazi monuments" and such strewn across Zendikar with a language that belonged to them, but was utterly incomprehensible to Anowon.
Does anyone remember what the old origin of the Zendikar vampires was? I always thought it was that Sorin had created them as a way to somehow lure the Eldrazi there. It's entirely possible that I just made it all up and convinced myself it was the canon explanation.
The old origin is Sorin used them as a lure for the Eldrazi (in addition to Zendikar's abundant mana), which is why he's known among them in legend as "The Mortifier". Basically, they were a native race of Zendikar like everyone else. Then they retconned that a few months ago.
And before anyone gets on In the Teeth of Akoum's quality, it doesn't matter. They had to sign off on the writer's work. We know they outright changed the end of the Diraden arc in Laura Resnick's novel, and know they chose not to continue with the Liliana novel, so they're both willing to edit and/or veto submitted manuscripts. If it was in Akoum, that means Creative allowed it to be there.
Source? I mean we know they're ancient but we don't know that they predate everything. They may well be as old as the multiverse but that doesn't mean that if the multiverse was created by something that the Eldrazi aren't the "recycling system" made by that creator.
By "everything" I meant "every race". If they predate Colored mana, that means they predate literally everything we know about Magic lore. There's no point in having these embodiments of entropy and then create yet another super being that created them. The only possible reason you'd supplant them as a writer is if you somehow screw up so bad with them that they aren't a threat anymore and you need to dial up the tension.
Maybe I interpreted it wrong but she basically said that people could go away from Zendikar somehow. Maybe planar portals are not so rare in multiverse, and maybe they can be open without planeswalker presence.
With that question in mind maybe Oath of the Gatewatch is not about sealing Ulamog at all but keeping gateway between Zendikar and some other plane open so Zendikari can evacuate.
Not sure how I would feel about that. I feel like they would need to set up planar travel a bit more than they have to really pull it off. Otherwise it will come out of left field.
Venser was working on something to do this, but he is dead. All of the planeswalkers who knew him are nowhere near Zendikar as well.
I`m disappointed guys...
Nobody said anything (so clearly I have to break my everlasting silence here on forums) about aways from Zendikar which I find most interesting in this week UR.
An unease that only later, in those dawn moments between being Eldrazi and being Drana, before she forgot it utterly, she understood a glimpse of a facet of a dream.
They were not supposed to be here. They were supposed to be away. Somehow, there was an away from Zendikar. There were many aways from Zendikar, and the Eldrazi knew, in so far as they could know anything, they should be there, and not here.
And she had found what she was searching for. The Eldrazi weren't from here. Perhaps they didn't even want to be here, for whatever want meant to them. But most important, there was a there for the Eldrazi to go back to.
She contemplated what she would find at Sea Gate. She looked forward to seeing this magical warrior named Gideon, a strange man in strange clothes whom no one on Zendikar had ever heard of before now. Perhaps he came from this there, as well.
They have a place to go. We can send them away to there. Or we can go away to there ourselves.
Maybe I interpreted it wrong but she basically said that people could go away from Zendikar somehow. Maybe planar portals are not so rare in multiverse, and maybe they can be open without planeswalker presence.
With that question in mind maybe Oath of the Gatewatch is not about sealing Ulamog at all but keeping gateway between Zendikar and some other plane open so Zendikari can evacuate.
That way big guy Ula would not be defeated , story would not repeat (sealing) , Zendikar would be no more which is much stronger effect storywise than happy end , but legacy of Zendikar would go on , characters would remain so they can be used again, and portals would be great for some great finale vs eldrazi or even other future villains.
That could be good setup for how the Phyrexians from New Phyrexia get elsewhere.
I've been wondering for a while if the eldrazi are the multiverse's scavengers. Like they eat planes, poop out colored mana, and that becomes new plane. It might be a Lovecraftish end if the hero's win but learn they and everything they know are just the accidental byproduct of eldrazi feeding. This is kind of unlikely though I'm assuming. I'm still hoping Wizards will pull a fast one on us TBH like Aligned Hedron Network shows the moment the heros thought they had Ulamog captured before he breaks free again, but I'm not getting my hopes up for that.
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TKA: We are repeatedly told that the Eldrazi are incomprehensible to us. That doesn't mean that they function only on instinct. There's no retcon and there's no reason to think that they can't have made those statues or the language on them. The point is that WE don't know how they think or function. That doesn't mean they don't.
Oiramij: That portion only indicates that Drana is now aware of planes beyond Zendikar. She doesn't know about planeswalkers, she doesn't know about how to get away from Zendikar. It says MAYBE they can go to those away from Zendikar places. She doesn't know. I'm pretty sure they've said they don't want planar portals to be a regular thing as they want to play up the special-ness of planeswalkers.
TKA: We are repeatedly told that the Eldrazi are incomprehensible to us. That doesn't mean that they function only on instinct. There's no retcon and there's no reason to think that they can't have made those statues or the language on them. The point is that WE don't know how they think or function. That doesn't mean they don't.
I wouldn't have seen this if I didn't check back here, GS (that a good abbreviation?)!
I said it's somewhat of a retcon since the wording used in the most recent UR is that the Eldrazi are driven by an instinct to devour, but previously we were told they think (not FEEL) in incomprehensible ways. They were played up as sentient beings, but in their own crazy unexplainable way, and the old novel even showed they had a kind of pseudo-civilization. It's all just weird and all over the place.
I wouldn't have seen this if I didn't check back here, GS (that a good abbreviation?)!
I said it's somewhat of a retcon since the wording used in the most recent UR is that the Eldrazi are driven by an instinct to devour, but previously we were told they think (not FEEL) in incomprehensible ways. They were played up as sentient beings, but in their own crazy unexplainable way, and the old novel even showed they had a kind of pseudo-civilization. It's all just weird and all over the place.
Yeah so am I. I'm driven by the instinct to eat, drink, and procreate. That doesn't mean I'm not a sapient creature with my own way of thinking and acting that goes beyond my basic instincts. In the same way we've never been lead to believe that the Eldrazi are creatures that act purely on instinct. The problem is we just don't know. And part of the point is that we shouldn't know. We're not supposed to understand the thought processes of these guys. Yesterdays story was meant to give us a tiny bit of insight into it but we're not supposed to understand them.
That way big guy Ula would not be defeated , story would not repeat (sealing) , Zendikar would be no more which is much stronger effect storywise than happy end , but legacy of Zendikar would go on , characters would remain so they can be used again, and portals would be great for some great finale vs eldrazi or even other future villains.
Is he? Text only says that Ulamog is locked in an infinite loop of binding energy. That can mean more than one thing.
Moment was represented as artifact card which has "...until Aligned Hedron Network leaves the battlefield".
Maybe it only worked for few moments or something like that.
I`m not saying that it isn`t as you say but it`s kinda strange that wizards spoiled that card so early..
The dam to the left in the art is that of Sea Gate.
We know Zendikari can get a taste of Eldrazi power, so Drana giving it to random peeps is totally fine. Eldrazi Conscription, anyone? Would've been great if in trying to help her forces the taste of Eldrazi power only maddened them.
Yeah so am I. I'm driven by the instinct to eat, drink, and procreate. That doesn't mean I'm not a sapient creature with my own way of thinking and acting that goes beyond my basic instincts. In the same way we've never been lead to believe that the Eldrazi are creatures that act purely on instinct.
We have, actually. The Eldrazi are constantly referred to as being driven by an insatiable hunger since the BFZ plotline kicked off. Back in the original Zendikar, they were referred to as being inscrutable. It's a slight but potentially huge difference in "characterization".
The problem is we just don't know. And part of the point is that we shouldn't know. We're not supposed to understand the thought processes of these guys. Yesterdays story was meant to give us a tiny bit of insight into it but we're not supposed to understand them.
If you've been following what I've been saying for a while, you'll see that I'm all FOR not understanding them, but they've been extremely simplified since BFZ season started. BFZ shouldn't be a war story; it should be a survival story. In a war story, you need to clearly understand what both sides want, unless it's a propaganda story. This is why the Eldrazi, again, are terrible for this war story: you end up having to ruin their mystique (by explaining what they want, and having them lose) or you end up with a pretty pointless story where they just slaughter everyone.
They should've just used the Phyrexians, especially since the Eldrazi that were built up as destroyers but ended up becoming corruptors. Funny how none of this bone lattice thing has never showed up in any mtg media before now. The visual cue for the Eldrazi should've been nothingness (so instead of seeing this chalky bone things on cards, you'd just see voids of nothing).
Of course, this is somewhat of a retcon. Around the time of the original Zendikar, we were told that the Eldrazi think in ways we don't understand, and not that they're driven by instinct. The Zendikar novel also had "ancient Eldrazi monuments" and such strewn across Zendikar with a language that belonged to them, but was utterly incomprehensible to Anowon.
We only have the point of view of one of Ulamog's brood as interpreted through the dim memories of an ancient vampire to say that they're motivated solely by instinct. It possible that Ulamog's thoughts are more complex and that Emrakul and Kozilek think is very different ways.
They should've just used the Phyrexians, especially since the Eldrazi that were built up as destroyers but ended up becoming corruptors. Funny how none of this bone lattice thing has never showed up in any mtg media before now. The visual cue for the Eldrazi should've been nothingness (so instead of seeing this chalky bone things on cards, you'd just see voids of nothing).
We haven't seen it on cards, yes, but in the story where Gideon saw Emrakul on the horizon he described how Emrakul sucked out all the 'everything' including colour out of the nearby environment. It was not explained as physically making it disappear, it remained, but was drained of literally everything.
They should've just used the Phyrexians, especially since the Eldrazi that were built up as destroyers but ended up becoming corruptors. Funny how none of this bone lattice thing has never showed up in any mtg media before now. The visual cue for the Eldrazi should've been nothingness (so instead of seeing this chalky bone things on cards, you'd just see voids of nothing).
We haven't seen it on cards, yes, but in the story where Gideon saw Emrakul on the horizon he described how Emrakul sucked out all the 'everything' including colour out of the nearby environment. It was not explained as physically making it disappear, it remained, but was drained of literally everything.
You can see it on that alt art for All is Dust from forever ago. I imagined that was just a one-off Eldrazi spell.
As you can see from there, the desolation is far more prominent than the pretty bone stuff they have going on now. It's basically just white Phyrexian oil at this point.
Just to give some update with the full spoiler, apparently there are still some Emrakul's drones lingering in Zendikar. Also, we have spoiler of more of Kozilek'sdrones, and they do look like they're coming from underground. Although if that is any indication that Kozilek is hiding underground or not, no idea. We also have some flavor text spoiling some conversations and scenes, but nothing too big.
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As you can see from there, the desolation is far more prominent than the pretty bone stuff they have going on now. It's basically just white Phyrexian oil at this point.
How is it like Phyrexian oil? Phyrexian oil corrupts you and eventually makes you Phyrexian, it is actively dangerous. Eldrazi dust is simply dead, material devoid of life and mana.
Looking at the flavor text for Dispel, I'm thinking that they just decide to kill Ulamog rather than seal him.
People may be disappointed about this, but after reading Drana's UR this week, I'm pretty convinced that the Eldrazi actually do have a greater purpose in the Multiverse, and that the heroes are going to come to regret their actions (except for Ugin, who's just gonna be like, "ha ha, told you so!"
How is it like Phyrexian oil? Phyrexian oil corrupts you and eventually makes you Phyrexian, it is actively dangerous. Eldrazi dust is simply dead, material devoid of life and mana.
Ugh, don't be so literal.
Just like Phyrexia transforms the landscape with all kinds of weird black jagged spikes and stuff, that's what the Eldrazi are doing, except theirs is white. Both are doing "Corruption".
Just to give some update with the full spoiler, apparently there are still some Emrakul's drones lingering in Zendikar. Also, we have spoiler of more of Kozilek'sdrones, and they do look like they're coming from underground. Although if that is any indication that Kozilek is hiding underground or not, no idea. We also have some flavor text spoiling some conversations and scenes, but nothing too big.
For me, Vestige of Emrakul's biggest "revelation" is the reference to Emrakul as "her". Yes, Emeria/Kamsa was female godess, but I feel that attributing any gender to the Titans is wrong. "it" would be the best pronoun here.
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I dislike that they discovered an effective way to fight the Eldrazi using Hedrons, that really makes things seem less devastating. "Oh yeah there are unstoppable monsters here one in five rocks can paralyze them."
The text for Dispel suggests that the conflict between Jace and Ugin is a little more complicated than first indicated.
How is it like Phyrexian oil? Phyrexian oil corrupts you and eventually makes you Phyrexian, it is actively dangerous. Eldrazi dust is simply dead, material devoid of life and mana.
Ugh, don't be so literal.
Just like Phyrexia transforms the landscape with all kinds of weird black jagged spikes and stuff, that's what the Eldrazi are doing, except theirs is white. Both are doing "Corruption".
Except that the Eldrazi aren't corrupting the landscape at all, they're destroying it. Phyrexians add to worlds, Eldrazi take away from them. You seem incredibly hung up on the most superficial similarity possible. You might as well say that "Nissa is basically just a Phyrexian because they both transform landscapes".
Just to give some update with the full spoiler, apparently there are still some Emrakul's drones lingering in Zendikar. Also, we have spoiler of more of Kozilek'sdrones, and they do look like they're coming from underground. Although if that is any indication that Kozilek is hiding underground or not, no idea. We also have some flavor text spoiling some conversations and scenes, but nothing too big.
For me, Vestige of Emrakul's biggest "revelation" is the reference to Emrakul as "her". Yes, Emeria/Kamsa was female godess, but I feel that attributing any gender to the Titans is wrong. "it" would be the best pronoun here.
It felt really weird for me too! "It" would have been much better, though to be honest we are used to associate "it" with "he", so if someone said "Ulamog and his spawns" nobody would bat an eye, which makes me think there is some prejudice involved to see "her" being used and looking weird.
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Just to give some update with the full spoiler, apparently there are still some Emrakul's drones lingering in Zendikar. Also, we have spoiler of more of Kozilek'sdrones, and they do look like they're coming from underground. Although if that is any indication that Kozilek is hiding underground or not, no idea. We also have some flavor text spoiling some conversations and scenes, but nothing too big.
For me, Vestige of Emrakul's biggest "revelation" is the reference to Emrakul as "her". Yes, Emeria/Kamsa was female godess, but I feel that attributing any gender to the Titans is wrong. "it" would be the best pronoun here.
It felt really weird for me too! "It" would have been much better, though to be honest we are used to associate "it" with "he", so if someone said "Ulamog and his spawns" nobody would bat an eye, which makes me think there is some prejudice involved to see "her" being used and looking weird.
My thoughts exactly. And only now I see the irony of discussing this with somebody with username Ashiok
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Just to give some update with the full spoiler, apparently there are still some Emrakul's drones lingering in Zendikar. Also, we have spoiler of more of Kozilek'sdrones, and they do look like they're coming from underground. Although if that is any indication that Kozilek is hiding underground or not, no idea. We also have some flavor text spoiling some conversations and scenes, but nothing too big.
For me, Vestige of Emrakul's biggest "revelation" is the reference to Emrakul as "her". Yes, Emeria/Kamsa was female godess, but I feel that attributing any gender to the Titans is wrong. "it" would be the best pronoun here.
How much do you want to bet that thousands of people will complain about that but few will even notice that Processor Assault refers to Ulamog as "him"?
Just to give some update with the full spoiler, apparently there are still some Emrakul's drones lingering in Zendikar. Also, we have spoiler of more of Kozilek'sdrones, and they do look like they're coming from underground. Although if that is any indication that Kozilek is hiding underground or not, no idea. We also have some flavor text spoiling some conversations and scenes, but nothing too big.
For me, Vestige of Emrakul's biggest "revelation" is the reference to Emrakul as "her". Yes, Emeria/Kamsa was female godess, but I feel that attributing any gender to the Titans is wrong. "it" would be the best pronoun here.
How much do you want to bet that thousands of people will complain about that but few will even notice that Processor Assault refers to Ulamog as "him"?
Just to give some update with the full spoiler, apparently there are still some Emrakul's drones lingering in Zendikar. Also, we have spoiler of more of Kozilek'sdrones, and they do look like they're coming from underground. Although if that is any indication that Kozilek is hiding underground or not, no idea. We also have some flavor text spoiling some conversations and scenes, but nothing too big.
For me, Vestige of Emrakul's biggest "revelation" is the reference to Emrakul as "her". Yes, Emeria/Kamsa was female godess, but I feel that attributing any gender to the Titans is wrong. "it" would be the best pronoun here.
It felt really weird for me too! "It" would have been much better, though to be honest we are used to associate "it" with "he", so if someone said "Ulamog and his spawns" nobody would bat an eye, which makes me think there is some prejudice involved to see "her" being used and looking weird.
My thoughts exactly. And only now I see the irony of discussing this with somebody with username Ashiok
He, true story mate, true story. Ashiok doesn't give a damn about genders!
And yes, nobody will notice that on the Ulamog card.
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They shouldn't associate the titans with genders since that only further destroys the idea of the Eldrazi being incomprehensible. They should all be "it"s, but that sometimes reads weird. "Him" in that regard is a better word since nobody stops and goes "Oh, they're guys" but the moment you use "Her" people automatically assume it's female. You know, unless it's a ship. Ships are always "her"/"she" for some reason.
What were the Eldrazi doing? Were they still clambering over its walls and spreading their corruption across the rocks? Or were they on the move, as Tazri suggested?
The purpose of Tazri's vigilance was obvious to Gideon. If the persistent coughing that he heard from the commander meant what Gideon feared—Eldrazi corruption—then soon enough Tazri...
Inside the commander's tent it was stuffy and smelled of dry, rotten fungus—the smell of Eldrazi corruption.
Vorik coughed again. A hard, racking cough that brought up a chunk of corruption as large as a coin. He fought for breath, shaking his head.
"In the same way that the corruption spread to claim our friend's body, so too do the corrupting monsters spread across this land.
Again, stop being so literal. Yes, the Eldrazi are destroying, but it's represented as corruption instead of destruction. They tell us the Eldrazi are destroying, but visually, it's just white phyrexian oil.
Ob 2015.
And this is why, as I've said many times before, the Eldrazi tell a terrible story if you're not willing to commit. If you're afraid to destroy popular worlds, you fail. If you're afraid to have them be unassailable, you've failed. Wizards isn't going to destroy popular planes and they want their Planeswalkers to be "crazy awesum and koolz" so they're not going to have to face being impotent before a force they simply cannot oppose.
That's not what Blue and Orange morality is. Those with it have morals, but they're super weird and probably only make sense to the guy they belong to. The Eldrazi have no morals as far as we know. They're just doing what their instincts tell them.
Of course, this is somewhat of a retcon. Around the time of the original Zendikar, we were told that the Eldrazi think in ways we don't understand, and not that they're driven by instinct. The Zendikar novel also had "ancient Eldrazi monuments" and such strewn across Zendikar with a language that belonged to them, but was utterly incomprehensible to Anowon.
The old origin is Sorin used them as a lure for the Eldrazi (in addition to Zendikar's abundant mana), which is why he's known among them in legend as "The Mortifier". Basically, they were a native race of Zendikar like everyone else. Then they retconned that a few months ago.
And before anyone gets on In the Teeth of Akoum's quality, it doesn't matter. They had to sign off on the writer's work. We know they outright changed the end of the Diraden arc in Laura Resnick's novel, and know they chose not to continue with the Liliana novel, so they're both willing to edit and/or veto submitted manuscripts. If it was in Akoum, that means Creative allowed it to be there.
By "everything" I meant "every race". If they predate Colored mana, that means they predate literally everything we know about Magic lore. There's no point in having these embodiments of entropy and then create yet another super being that created them. The only possible reason you'd supplant them as a writer is if you somehow screw up so bad with them that they aren't a threat anymore and you need to dial up the tension.
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Not sure how I would feel about that. I feel like they would need to set up planar travel a bit more than they have to really pull it off. Otherwise it will come out of left field.
Venser was working on something to do this, but he is dead. All of the planeswalkers who knew him are nowhere near Zendikar as well.
That could be good setup for how the Phyrexians from New Phyrexia get elsewhere.
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Oiramij: That portion only indicates that Drana is now aware of planes beyond Zendikar. She doesn't know about planeswalkers, she doesn't know about how to get away from Zendikar. It says MAYBE they can go to those away from Zendikar places. She doesn't know. I'm pretty sure they've said they don't want planar portals to be a regular thing as they want to play up the special-ness of planeswalkers.
I wouldn't have seen this if I didn't check back here, GS (that a good abbreviation?)!
I said it's somewhat of a retcon since the wording used in the most recent UR is that the Eldrazi are driven by an instinct to devour, but previously we were told they think (not FEEL) in incomprehensible ways. They were played up as sentient beings, but in their own crazy unexplainable way, and the old novel even showed they had a kind of pseudo-civilization. It's all just weird and all over the place.
Your mods are terrified of me.
Yeah so am I. I'm driven by the instinct to eat, drink, and procreate. That doesn't mean I'm not a sapient creature with my own way of thinking and acting that goes beyond my basic instincts. In the same way we've never been lead to believe that the Eldrazi are creatures that act purely on instinct. The problem is we just don't know. And part of the point is that we shouldn't know. We're not supposed to understand the thought processes of these guys. Yesterdays story was meant to give us a tiny bit of insight into it but we're not supposed to understand them.
Slight tangent: that card's depiction of Ulamog reminds me of one of those large inflatable tubemen:
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Uh...Ulamog is being sealed right in front of Sea Gate. Kind of thing that's what they mean by the "Gatewatch"
The dam to the left in the art is that of Sea Gate.
We have, actually. The Eldrazi are constantly referred to as being driven by an insatiable hunger since the BFZ plotline kicked off. Back in the original Zendikar, they were referred to as being inscrutable. It's a slight but potentially huge difference in "characterization".
If you've been following what I've been saying for a while, you'll see that I'm all FOR not understanding them, but they've been extremely simplified since BFZ season started. BFZ shouldn't be a war story; it should be a survival story. In a war story, you need to clearly understand what both sides want, unless it's a propaganda story. This is why the Eldrazi, again, are terrible for this war story: you end up having to ruin their mystique (by explaining what they want, and having them lose) or you end up with a pretty pointless story where they just slaughter everyone.
They should've just used the Phyrexians, especially since the Eldrazi that were built up as destroyers but ended up becoming corruptors. Funny how none of this bone lattice thing has never showed up in any mtg media before now. The visual cue for the Eldrazi should've been nothingness (so instead of seeing this chalky bone things on cards, you'd just see voids of nothing).
Your mods are terrified of me.
I hope its like Bleach and she trains to get stronger to defeat
AizUlamog and still gets hilariously outclassed.We only have the point of view of one of Ulamog's brood as interpreted through the dim memories of an ancient vampire to say that they're motivated solely by instinct. It possible that Ulamog's thoughts are more complex and that Emrakul and Kozilek think is very different ways.
We haven't seen it on cards, yes, but in the story where Gideon saw Emrakul on the horizon he described how Emrakul sucked out all the 'everything' including colour out of the nearby environment. It was not explained as physically making it disappear, it remained, but was drained of literally everything.
I loves me some Bleach.
You can see it on that alt art for All is Dust from forever ago. I imagined that was just a one-off Eldrazi spell.
As you can see from there, the desolation is far more prominent than the pretty bone stuff they have going on now. It's basically just white Phyrexian oil at this point.
Your mods are terrified of me.
Read my other stories as well (some ongoing):
Reaper King (a horror story), Kaalia of the Vast (an origin story), Sequels for Innistrad (Alternative sequels for Inn), Grey Areas (Odric's fanfic), Royal Succession (goblins),The Tracker's Message (eldrazi on Innistrad) and Ugin and his Eye (the end of OGW).
How is it like Phyrexian oil? Phyrexian oil corrupts you and eventually makes you Phyrexian, it is actively dangerous. Eldrazi dust is simply dead, material devoid of life and mana.
People may be disappointed about this, but after reading Drana's UR this week, I'm pretty convinced that the Eldrazi actually do have a greater purpose in the Multiverse, and that the heroes are going to come to regret their actions (except for Ugin, who's just gonna be like, "ha ha, told you so!"
Ugh, don't be so literal.
Just like Phyrexia transforms the landscape with all kinds of weird black jagged spikes and stuff, that's what the Eldrazi are doing, except theirs is white. Both are doing "Corruption".
Your mods are terrified of me.
For me, Vestige of Emrakul's biggest "revelation" is the reference to Emrakul as "her". Yes, Emeria/Kamsa was female godess, but I feel that attributing any gender to the Titans is wrong. "it" would be the best pronoun here.
Let this great clan rest in peace (2001-2011)
The text for Dispel suggests that the conflict between Jace and Ugin is a little more complicated than first indicated.
Except that the Eldrazi aren't corrupting the landscape at all, they're destroying it. Phyrexians add to worlds, Eldrazi take away from them. You seem incredibly hung up on the most superficial similarity possible. You might as well say that "Nissa is basically just a Phyrexian because they both transform landscapes".
It felt really weird for me too! "It" would have been much better, though to be honest we are used to associate "it" with "he", so if someone said "Ulamog and his spawns" nobody would bat an eye, which makes me think there is some prejudice involved to see "her" being used and looking weird.
Read my other stories as well (some ongoing):
Reaper King (a horror story), Kaalia of the Vast (an origin story), Sequels for Innistrad (Alternative sequels for Inn), Grey Areas (Odric's fanfic), Royal Succession (goblins),The Tracker's Message (eldrazi on Innistrad) and Ugin and his Eye (the end of OGW).
My thoughts exactly. And only now I see the irony of discussing this with somebody with username Ashiok
Let this great clan rest in peace (2001-2011)
How much do you want to bet that thousands of people will complain about that but few will even notice that Processor Assault refers to Ulamog as "him"?
He, true story mate, true story. Ashiok doesn't give a damn about genders!
And yes, nobody will notice that on the Ulamog card.
Read my other stories as well (some ongoing):
Reaper King (a horror story), Kaalia of the Vast (an origin story), Sequels for Innistrad (Alternative sequels for Inn), Grey Areas (Odric's fanfic), Royal Succession (goblins),The Tracker's Message (eldrazi on Innistrad) and Ugin and his Eye (the end of OGW).
Again, stop being so literal. Yes, the Eldrazi are destroying, but it's represented as corruption instead of destruction. They tell us the Eldrazi are destroying, but visually, it's just white phyrexian oil.
Your mods are terrified of me.