Drana and her legion of vampires, Noyan Dar and his roilmages, Tazri and her ground troops, the elven skyriders, goblins, kor, and Nissa with her force of elementals.
Ground troops, the most generic of all troops.
For the record, I liked the recap. I have to wonder what made up Tazri's contingent of the allied forces, was it just humans in there?
Along with calling Ulamog a her they also said Jori En was a foremost scholar of Sea Gate which isn't the case. She was protecting that scholar when she met Gideon during the Eldrazi attack on Sea Gate. Kiora said that Jori was a ruin diver.
Along with calling Ulamog a her they also said Jori En was a foremost scholar of Sea Gate which isn't the case. She was protecting that scholar when she met Gideon during the Eldrazi attack on Sea Gate. Kiora said that Jori was a ruin diver.
Let's get a new intern for this. :/
Jori En is a foremost (survivimg) scholar from Sea Gate. She's probably also among the foremost (surviving) jugglers.
Typically they rerun "best-ofs" for all columns during the two weeks between Christmas and New Years. I'm actually shocked we're getting a new story on December 30.
They pushed the two week Christmas break back a week ever since they made the winter set earlier so they have enough time for the normal preview schedule.
It's unfortunate they still ignored her other major character flaw, which could have added more complexity to her character.
Could you expand on this?
I've never read In The Teeth Of Akoum, after seeing review after review complain about grammatic mistakes and generally sloppy editing. Perhaps related to that, I despised and disregarded Nissa as a bland Designated Protagonist... right up until her deeply badass duel with Ob Nixilis, and now, I'm actually somewhat curious whether there's anything else interesting I missed there.
Along with calling Ulamog a her they also said Jori En was a foremost scholar of Sea Gate which isn't the case. She was protecting that scholar when she met Gideon during the Eldrazi attack on Sea Gate. Kiora said that Jori was a ruin diver.
Let's get a new intern for this. :/
To be fair, applying any gender to the Eldrazi is a dicey business (they should probably get the Ashiok treatment), but if you're committed to using one of them, I'd probably designate anything which can reproduce by itself as female - as it is with "mother" and "daughter" cells.
... my larger point is, none of it is quite as troubling as Savor the Flavor thinking that Tazri was an actual Angel, rather than a human with religiously-themed fashion mistakes.
applying any gender to the Eldrazi is a dicey business (they should probably get the Ashiok treatment)
It's previously seemed like they've been applying the genders of the appropriate Merfolk gods to the titans. Cosi/Kozilek and Ula/Ulamog are generally given male pronouns, Emeria/Emrakul is generally given female pronous.
Which means calling Ulamog "her" here is still a screw-up, but it at least explains the expected pronoun convention for the Titans.
It's unfortunate they still ignored her other major character flaw, which could have added more complexity to her character.
Could you expand on this?
I've never read In The Teeth Of Akoum, after seeing review after review complain about grammatic mistakes and generally sloppy editing. Perhaps related to that, I despised and disregarded Nissa as a bland Designated Protagonist... right up until her deeply badass duel with Ob Nixilis, and now, I'm actually somewhat curious whether there's anything else interesting I missed there.
Bottom line? She's pretty Elf-Centric. A lot of people call her racist, but I think it's more of a Fascist Joraga thing. She believes that elves are superior, and the Joraga as being the most superior. This aspect of her character was retconned in her origin story, where she became an Animist and never studied black mana with the Lorwyn Elves.
It's unfortunate they still ignored her other major character flaw, which could have added more complexity to her character.
Could you expand on this?
I've never read In The Teeth Of Akoum, after seeing review after review complain about grammatic mistakes and generally sloppy editing. Perhaps related to that, I despised and disregarded Nissa as a bland Designated Protagonist... right up until her deeply badass duel with Ob Nixilis, and now, I'm actually somewhat curious whether there's anything else interesting I missed there.
Along with calling Ulamog a her they also said Jori En was a foremost scholar of Sea Gate which isn't the case. She was protecting that scholar when she met Gideon during the Eldrazi attack on Sea Gate. Kiora said that Jori was a ruin diver.
Let's get a new intern for this. :/
To be fair, applying any gender to the Eldrazi is a dicey business (they should probably get the Ashiok treatment), but if you're committed to using one of them, I'd probably designate anything which can reproduce by itself as female - as it is with "mother" and "daughter" cells.
... my larger point is, none of it is quite as troubling as Savor the Flavor thinking that Tazri was an actual Angel, rather than a human with religiously-themed fashion mistakes.
Nissa was a little short-sighted and tended to be xenophobic to the point of coming off as an elf-supremacist. Her view of the Joraga elves as superior to all others was linked to her time with Lorwyn's elves who themselves thought they were superior to the "ugly" eyeblights. Nissa even dabbled in black magic based off these beliefs for a short while.
Her biased mindset was apparent in her first PW card, where her theme was caring only about supporting elves. Some have even assumed, in part due to her appearance in DotP, that she would be a solid GB character. It would be because of her "save the chosen few, damn the rest" attitude was why she released the eldrazi to begin with.
I had wished they made more direct acknowledgement that she used to be this way, and that her mistakes pushed her to grow into a character that sees that all life is important, etc. All we've got from the URs for this block made the vaguest of reference to this, but never really mentions it explicitly (because racism is bad! Protagonists can't be racist!). This way, she could be a little less bland and whiny.
Her biased mindset was apparent in her first PW card, where her theme was caring only about supporting elves. Some have even assumed, in part due to her appearance in DotP, that she would be a solid GB character. It would be because of her "save the chosen few, damn the rest" attitude was why she released the eldrazi to begin with.
... I can see why it might have changed so fast. Everyone hated Nissa's first card, precisely because it was so cornercase and hard to use. It would be nice if Nissa had more to do than whine and alternately gain/lose cosmic powers, though.
I did always wonder about the Lorwyn thing, though. Nissa doesn't have horns. Shouldn't Lorwyn's elves view her as a mutated freak, worse than Rhys? Why are they finding her attractive?
I presume the Lorwynn elves can acknowledge things as aesthetically pleasing without them necessarily being perfect Lorwynn elves. Nissa is most assuredly no eyeblight. Even the most elite of elitists can understand that.
Did the Origins stories just rewrite the backgrounds of the planewalkers? I am not familiar with either of them but I am curious. Which ones are considered canon?
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Did the Origins stories just rewrite the backgrounds of the planewalkers? I am not familiar with either of them but I am curious. Which ones are considered canon?
Actually we really didn't know much about their pasts. Chandra had a short bit about her past in the purifying fire and there were some minor changes to it. All we knew about Jace was the name Alhammaret. We knew literally nothing about Gideon until that one card in Theros block. We got Lili's past in the webcomic and her story stuck to it. With Nissa we didnt really know her past but we knew what she was like as a result of it. Creative really just said, "Hey we don't like that part of her and it down fit with what a wanted to write so a changed it."
All I the Origins block stories are canon. The bit from The Purifying Fire was seriously minor and its story was a direct lead in to ZEN block so I'd say it still holds. The others didnt really have anything except Lili and her story was a more detailed version of the comic so it's fine too
In The Purifying Flame, he says that his Sural was given to him by his master who got it from a Planeswalker. His master thus also knew of Planeswalkers - it is explicitly discussed how Gideon was better prepared than many young 'Walkers since he had someone with a bit of knowledge to help him get started.
But if that is now supposed to be Hixus, why was this not mentioned in the Origins story? Is this retconned out? Is it someone on Bant?
In The Purifying Flame, he says that his Sural was given to him by his master who got it from a Planeswalker. His master thus also knew of Planeswalkers - it is explicitly discussed how Gideon was better prepared than many young 'Walkers since he had someone with a bit of knowledge to help him get started.
But if that is now supposed to be Hixus, why was this not mentioned in the Origins story? Is this retconned out? Is it someone on Bant?
In the duels games (which I think is canon) it said Hixus had been trained by a planeswalker.
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In The Purifying Flame, he says that his Sural was given to him by his master who got it from a Planeswalker. His master thus also knew of Planeswalkers - it is explicitly discussed how Gideon was better prepared than many young 'Walkers since he had someone with a bit of knowledge to help him get started.
But if that is now supposed to be Hixus, why was this not mentioned in the Origins story? Is this retconned out? Is it someone on Bant?
In the duels games (which I think is canon) it said Hixus had been trained by a planeswalker.
I'm fairly certain it was mentioned in a UR as well. I'll see if I can't find it.
He didn't ever go back to Theros, did he? So the part about getting his sural passed down and being better prepared doesn't seem to fit?
There is no reason to think he never went back. As far as we know he went to Bant for a while and kept learning there, but when we see him again in the Purifying Fire it's been years, maybe more than a decade. He's still young, but more like late 20's/early 30's young instead of the late teens he was in when he first walked.
If the Sural does anything to Ulamog I will thoroughly be amused. One of the five most powerful Theros artifacts, and most powerful artifact on Zendikar was a trinket against Kozilek. So continuity shall be expected.
If the Sural does anything to Ulamog I will thoroughly be amused. One of the five most powerful Theros artifacts, and most powerful artifact on Zendikar was a trinket against Kozilek. So continuity shall be expected.
I'd guess Dekella most likely lost a good amount of power when it was pulled away from Nyx as well.
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If the Sural does anything to Ulamog I will thoroughly be amused. One of the five most powerful Theros artifacts, and most powerful artifact on Zendikar was a trinket against Kozilek. So continuity shall be expected.
I'd guess Dekella most likely lost a good amount of power when it was pulled away from Nyx as well.
Probably. It's still considerably powerful though, more so than any other artifact I can think of, except perhaps The Chain Veil, which can one-shot legends like Griselbrand. That said, on or off Theros, the sural is not a god-weapon or former god-weapon. Anyway the new art show Ulamog and Kozilek trolling around inland Zendikar, so it looks like Gideon's punch to Ulamog's face did nothing.
Speaking of weapons, where would elspeth spear fall to? It is capable of killing gods while gods have been stabbing each other with spears and live. Maybe its a specialty weapon, but then again it is also useful outside theros capable of powering elspeth magic
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Speaking of weapons, where would elspeth spear fall to? It is capable of killing gods while gods have been stabbing each other with spears and live. Maybe its a specialty weapon, but then again it is also useful outside theros capable of powering elspeth magic
Elspeth's spear was made by a god for the purpose of harming/killing gods, so it is unique among unique, in fact the god who made it doesn't even remember how because he was lobotomized and thus the information was lost foreverish. Then it was "reforged" by another god to make it the lance, spear thing it was on Theros.
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Ground troops, the most generic of all troops.
For the record, I liked the recap. I have to wonder what made up Tazri's contingent of the allied forces, was it just humans in there?
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Let's get a new intern for this. :/
Jori En is a foremost (survivimg) scholar from Sea Gate. She's probably also among the foremost (surviving) jugglers.
They pushed the two week Christmas break back a week ever since they made the winter set earlier so they have enough time for the normal preview schedule.
Could you expand on this?
I've never read In The Teeth Of Akoum, after seeing review after review complain about grammatic mistakes and generally sloppy editing. Perhaps related to that, I despised and disregarded Nissa as a bland Designated Protagonist... right up until her deeply badass duel with Ob Nixilis, and now, I'm actually somewhat curious whether there's anything else interesting I missed there.
To be fair, applying any gender to the Eldrazi is a dicey business (they should probably get the Ashiok treatment), but if you're committed to using one of them, I'd probably designate anything which can reproduce by itself as female - as it is with "mother" and "daughter" cells.
... my larger point is, none of it is quite as troubling as Savor the Flavor thinking that Tazri was an actual Angel, rather than a human with religiously-themed fashion mistakes.
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Which means calling Ulamog "her" here is still a screw-up, but it at least explains the expected pronoun convention for the Titans.
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Bottom line? She's pretty Elf-Centric. A lot of people call her racist, but I think it's more of a Fascist Joraga thing. She believes that elves are superior, and the Joraga as being the most superior. This aspect of her character was retconned in her origin story, where she became an Animist and never studied black mana with the Lorwyn Elves.
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Nissa was a little short-sighted and tended to be xenophobic to the point of coming off as an elf-supremacist. Her view of the Joraga elves as superior to all others was linked to her time with Lorwyn's elves who themselves thought they were superior to the "ugly" eyeblights. Nissa even dabbled in black magic based off these beliefs for a short while.
Her biased mindset was apparent in her first PW card, where her theme was caring only about supporting elves. Some have even assumed, in part due to her appearance in DotP, that she would be a solid GB character. It would be because of her "save the chosen few, damn the rest" attitude was why she released the eldrazi to begin with.
I had wished they made more direct acknowledgement that she used to be this way, and that her mistakes pushed her to grow into a character that sees that all life is important, etc. All we've got from the URs for this block made the vaguest of reference to this, but never really mentions it explicitly (because racism is bad! Protagonists can't be racist!). This way, she could be a little less bland and whiny.
It's easy to be the best at everything, if everyone else is dead.
And please, I want Jori En, Squirrel Juggler to be a real card.
Of course, when you put it that way...
... I can see why it might have changed so fast. Everyone hated Nissa's first card, precisely because it was so cornercase and hard to use. It would be nice if Nissa had more to do than whine and alternately gain/lose cosmic powers, though.
I did always wonder about the Lorwyn thing, though. Nissa doesn't have horns. Shouldn't Lorwyn's elves view her as a mutated freak, worse than Rhys? Why are they finding her attractive?
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Actually we really didn't know much about their pasts. Chandra had a short bit about her past in the purifying fire and there were some minor changes to it. All we knew about Jace was the name Alhammaret. We knew literally nothing about Gideon until that one card in Theros block. We got Lili's past in the webcomic and her story stuck to it. With Nissa we didnt really know her past but we knew what she was like as a result of it. Creative really just said, "Hey we don't like that part of her and it down fit with what a wanted to write so a changed it."
All I the Origins block stories are canon. The bit from The Purifying Fire was seriously minor and its story was a direct lead in to ZEN block so I'd say it still holds. The others didnt really have anything except Lili and her story was a more detailed version of the comic so it's fine too
But generally, the most recent retcon gets the canon baton.
In The Purifying Flame, he says that his Sural was given to him by his master who got it from a Planeswalker. His master thus also knew of Planeswalkers - it is explicitly discussed how Gideon was better prepared than many young 'Walkers since he had someone with a bit of knowledge to help him get started.
But if that is now supposed to be Hixus, why was this not mentioned in the Origins story? Is this retconned out? Is it someone on Bant?
In the duels games (which I think is canon) it said Hixus had been trained by a planeswalker.
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I'm fairly certain it was mentioned in a UR as well. I'll see if I can't find it.
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I'd guess Dekella most likely lost a good amount of power when it was pulled away from Nyx as well.
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Probably. It's still considerably powerful though, more so than any other artifact I can think of, except perhaps The Chain Veil, which can one-shot legends like Griselbrand. That said, on or off Theros, the sural is not a god-weapon or former god-weapon. Anyway the new art show Ulamog and Kozilek trolling around inland Zendikar, so it looks like Gideon's punch to Ulamog's face did nothing.
|| UW Jace, Vyn's Prodigy UW || UG Kenessos, Priest of Thassa (feat. Arixmethes) UG ||
Cards I still want to see created:
|| Olantin, Lost City || Pavios and Thanasis || Choryu ||
Elspeth's spear was made by a god for the purpose of harming/killing gods, so it is unique among unique, in fact the god who made it doesn't even remember how because he was lobotomized and thus the information was lost foreverish. Then it was "reforged" by another god to make it the lance, spear thing it was on Theros.