Pretty cool, the pic on Bant looks awesome.
In retrospect, his abilities are rather Therosian. Or maybe they just read very White and therefore attributed easily to Theros,
They've known for long enough that Gideon was Theran that they included a reference to him on the flavor text of Desperate Stand. In retrospect it makes plenty of sense, in terms of both his physical appearance and his sensibilities.
They've known for long enough that Gideon was Theran that they included a reference to him on the flavor text of Desperate Stand. In retrospect it makes plenty of sense, in terms of both his physical appearance and his sensibilities.
Actually, there's some distinction to be made with how Bant might have shaped him too since he's very much the kind to try to solo a raid/boss (forgive that pop-culture reference) to make sure that others aren't endangered.
Also yes, that Gideon on Bant pic is wicked cool. And apparently they've wanted to entangle him with Bant since... what was it, 2010? 2011? Of course they didn't get the details exactly right back then, but they've wanted to put him there for a while.
This explains Gideon's darker complexion on his Funko Figure too. MaRo said he was supposed to be dark skinned but his card arts hadn't portrayed him that way. You'd think they make that a priority in the arts commission. Nice find OP
Well I'm glad that this isn't the kind of retroactive attaching I thought it was. That's pretty cool and I feel MUCH better about it. But man, I'm going to need to spend some serious time studying the timeline once you get all this stuff ordered on the Wiki Barinellos.
Incidentally, I am deeply amused by the fact that he comes from Akros and is probably going to end up getting dropped into Akrasa during his tenure on Bant.
Out of all of the Bantish nations, that one just feels most likely to me. Valeron already had Elspeth and Topa and Jhess just don't feel right to me. Could have ended up in Eos, but... I mean, come on, Akros and Akrasa is just too funny.
Also kind of shines a new light on him hanging out with the Boros at the start of his time on Ravnica. Man likes his Red/White aligned factions (yes I'm aware that doesn't apply for Akrasa on Bant) That could just be similarity of names.
And yet he doesn't trust red magic. Not that it's not understandable why.
Yep. And while he doesn't trust it, he does seem weirdly drawn to it doesn't he? Born in Akros, allies temporarily with the Boros, his... complicated relationship with Chandra.
So do we know where he gets his sural? Presumably it isn't on Theros or Bant, right?
He got his sural from his mentor, who got it from his mentor, who was a planeswalker.
Ah, right. So probably no answer for that, and it isn't terribly relevant anyway.
I think his love/hate relationship with red mana probably has to do with regrets over reckless actions in his youth. He still has those tendencies inside him but he actively restrains himself and is wary of them.
... and is it too much wishful thinking to hope for more Chandra/Gideon romance teases? I realize this set is about their respective origin stories, so pre-Purifying Fire, but I can still dream.
I'll be honest, I really wish they'd come back to that. I haven't been terribly happy with the random hookups we've been getting on our walkers as of late. (Narset/Sarkhan, Elspeth/Daxos)
Wow those people who called that Kytheon Iora was Gideon were right on the money.
... that was a thing? Geez.
I have complicated feelings about that then. Because it just kind of fuels the crazier speculations and that doesn't do some of us any favors.
Good on the people that worked that out though...
As much as I respect your position and authority as a storyline guru and lore keeper I disagree with you whole heartedly about seeing Narset/Sarkhan as a "hook up." From what I understand, Elspeth's feelings for Daxos were pretty clearly stated but it seemed like Narset and Sarkhan were just friends and personally really hope it stays that way.
As much as I respect your position and authority as a storyline guru and lore keeper I disagree with you whole heartedly about seeing Narset/Sarkhan as a "hook up." From what I understand, Elspeth's feelings for Daxos were pretty clearly stated but it seemed like Narset and Sarkhan were just friends and personally really hope it stays that way.
Yeah, while I didn't get to read Godsend I'm pretty sure that Elspeth knew Daxos from a long time ago and her feelings for him developed long before the events of the Theros Block.
As for Narset and Sarkhan I don't see any difference between they're "random hookup" and a romantic relationship between Chandra and Gideon. Narset made Sarkhan feel peaceful in his otherwise ravaged mind. Chandra makes Gideon question his alliances and his beliefs. I think either of these relationships is fine but I don't think calling one a random hookup while thinking the other is fine is a good way to look at it. Personally I think Sarkhan deserves a nice lady to accompany him after all the crap he's been through. And if Chandra can get Gideon to lighten(heh) up a little then great. I do think it would be interesting if they explored planeswalkers relationships with each other more which it seems is what they will be doing in the future. I mean we know that Jace and Lilli were a thing once upon a time.
As much as I respect your position and authority as a storyline guru and lore keeper I disagree with you whole heartedly about seeing Narset/Sarkhan as a "hook up." From what I understand, Elspeth's feelings for Daxos were pretty clearly stated but it seemed like Narset and Sarkhan were just friends and personally really hope it stays that way.
Yeah, while I didn't get to read Godsend I'm pretty sure that Elspeth knew Daxos from a long time ago and her feelings for him developed long before the events of the Theros Block. As for Narset and Sarkhan I don't see any difference between they're "random hookup" and a romantic relationship between Chandra and Gideon. Narset made Sarkhan feel peaceful in his otherwise ravaged mind. Chandra makes Gideon question his alliances and his beliefs. I think either of these relationships is fine but I don't think calling one a random hookup while thinking the other is fine is a good way to look at it. Personally I think Sarkhan deserves a nice lady to accompany him after all the crap he's been through. And if Chandra can get Gideon to lighten(heh) up a little then great. I do think it would be interesting if they explored planeswalkers relationships with each other more which it seems is what they will be doing in the future. I mean we know that Jace and Lilli were a thing once upon a time.
And see that bolded idea is precisely why I think that Sarkhan and Narset should NOT be a couple. I have a real problem with this idea in fiction that the significant other is a prize or reward for the main character having gone through something difficult. It's especially prominent with male leads and female love interests but with any character it reduces them to the status of "prize to be won." Heck, as much as I like Narset's little duel with Zurgo it still bothered me a bit because even though they planned on bringing her back through time travel shenanigans, killing Narset to motivate Sarkhan, even if they're only friends (as I believe they are intended to be) smacked of the Women in Refrigerators trope for me.
And yet he doesn't trust red magic. Not that it's not understandable why.
Yep. And while he doesn't trust it, he does seem weirdly drawn to it doesn't he? Born in Akros, allies temporarily with the Boros, his... complicated relationship with Chandra.
Yeah, while I didn't get to read Godsend I'm pretty sure that Elspeth knew Daxos from a long time ago and her feelings for him developed long before the events of the Theros Block.
As much as I respect your position and authority as a storyline guru and lore keeper I disagree with you whole heartedly about seeing Narset/Sarkhan as a "hook up." From what I understand, Elspeth's feelings for Daxos were pretty clearly stated but it seemed like Narset and Sarkhan were just friends and personally really hope it stays that way.
Well, I'm overstating things, but that's partly because there are a lot of people who don't view it as a friendship, but just... differently romantic since Sarkhan is such a mess.
Elspeth encountered Daxos for something akin to 15 minutes right after his mom was stolen to the underworld. They treated the relationship rather more exaggerated as a starting point because of that. They did spend months together following Polukranos' defeat, but that doesn't mean they felt natural together. It was a VERY VERY forced relationship.
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In retrospect, his abilities are rather Therosian. Or maybe they just read very White and therefore attributed easily to Theros,
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Actually, there's some distinction to be made with how Bant might have shaped him too since he's very much the kind to try to solo a raid/boss (forgive that pop-culture reference) to make sure that others aren't endangered.
Also yes, that Gideon on Bant pic is wicked cool. And apparently they've wanted to entangle him with Bant since... what was it, 2010? 2011? Of course they didn't get the details exactly right back then, but they've wanted to put him there for a while.
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Out of all of the Bantish nations, that one just feels most likely to me. Valeron already had Elspeth and Topa and Jhess just don't feel right to me. Could have ended up in Eos, but... I mean, come on, Akros and Akrasa is just too funny.
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Yep. And while he doesn't trust it, he does seem weirdly drawn to it doesn't he? Born in Akros, allies temporarily with the Boros, his... complicated relationship with Chandra.
Ah, right. So probably no answer for that, and it isn't terribly relevant anyway.
I think his love/hate relationship with red mana probably has to do with regrets over reckless actions in his youth. He still has those tendencies inside him but he actively restrains himself and is wary of them.
... and is it too much wishful thinking to hope for more Chandra/Gideon romance teases? I realize this set is about their respective origin stories, so pre-Purifying Fire, but I can still dream.
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... that was a thing? Geez.
I have complicated feelings about that then. Because it just kind of fuels the crazier speculations and that doesn't do some of us any favors.
Good on the people that worked that out though...
Yeah, while I didn't get to read Godsend I'm pretty sure that Elspeth knew Daxos from a long time ago and her feelings for him developed long before the events of the Theros Block.
As for Narset and Sarkhan I don't see any difference between they're "random hookup" and a romantic relationship between Chandra and Gideon. Narset made Sarkhan feel peaceful in his otherwise ravaged mind. Chandra makes Gideon question his alliances and his beliefs. I think either of these relationships is fine but I don't think calling one a random hookup while thinking the other is fine is a good way to look at it. Personally I think Sarkhan deserves a nice lady to accompany him after all the crap he's been through. And if Chandra can get Gideon to lighten(heh) up a little then great. I do think it would be interesting if they explored planeswalkers relationships with each other more which it seems is what they will be doing in the future. I mean we know that Jace and Lilli were a thing once upon a time.
And see that bolded idea is precisely why I think that Sarkhan and Narset should NOT be a couple. I have a real problem with this idea in fiction that the significant other is a prize or reward for the main character having gone through something difficult. It's especially prominent with male leads and female love interests but with any character it reduces them to the status of "prize to be won." Heck, as much as I like Narset's little duel with Zurgo it still bothered me a bit because even though they planned on bringing her back through time travel shenanigans, killing Narset to motivate Sarkhan, even if they're only friends (as I believe they are intended to be) smacked of the Women in Refrigerators trope for me.
It's like he's almost... human...
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Well, I'm overstating things, but that's partly because there are a lot of people who don't view it as a friendship, but just... differently romantic since Sarkhan is such a mess.
Elspeth encountered Daxos for something akin to 15 minutes right after his mom was stolen to the underworld. They treated the relationship rather more exaggerated as a starting point because of that. They did spend months together following Polukranos' defeat, but that doesn't mean they felt natural together. It was a VERY VERY forced relationship.