I mean, other than the Eldrazi/Phyrexians, Slivers are another all consuming force, and it doesn't seem too far fetched for the Hive to try to start making Slivers that could Planeswalk so as to expand its territory some more.
Also, just imagine the awesomeness that would be Ravnica over-run with Slivers; Simic would be a kid in a candy store, at least.
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I firmly believe that a sliver will be the first WUBRG walker.
They're the most iconic WUBRG tribe and their five colorness is heavily tied into their mechanical identity.
I think the more humanoid look given in M14 is a step being taken to make the idea of slivers being sentient (a necessity for a spark) more obvious to players who might not be as immersed in the story.
I am no Sliver or Planeswalker expert, but I thought the Slivers(Other than the queens) are all drones with no real mind of their own. Wouldn't that make it very unlikely for them to have a spark?
I am no Sliver or Planeswalker expert, but I thought the Slivers(Other than the queens) are all drones with no real mind of their own. Wouldn't that make it very unlikely for them to have a spark?
This was true before M14...
Shandalarian Slivers can actually talk and cast spells and are scentient beings with a whole culture ....
Strange!
Hope is is:
tirojo (another random name ), Sliver interplanar WURBG
Planeswalker - tirojo
+1: put a 1/1 colorless sliver creature token into play.
-4: Search your library for a sliver creature card and put it into play.
-12: Search your library for any number of sliver creature cards and put them in play . Slivers creatures you control gains haste , trample and indestructible until the end of turn.
SL:7
Anyways, a sliver planeswalker, if it happens, will very truly be a disappointment to most people if it ISN'T a queen, because that means it couldn't create new hives on new planes, making it.... sort of pointless to talk about it being a planeswalker. The spark isn't a physical trait that can be copied, and they aren't about to turn EVERY sliver into a walker if it shows up somewhere.
Anyways, a sliver planeswalker, if it happens, will very truly be a disappointment to most people if it ISN'T a queen, because that means it couldn't create new hives on new planes, making it.... sort of pointless to talk about it being a planeswalker. The spark isn't a physical trait that can be copied, and they aren't about to turn EVERY sliver into a walker if it shows up somewhere.
Aye, it would have to be a Queen, sort of like an Ant Queen who spreads the colony out; after she found a suitable area (one with enough biomass for the Slivers to prosper) she would sacrifice her spark and start a new colony.
You could make quite the interesting story out of this, what with her potentially not wanting to put the lives of that many people in jeopardy, yet still wanting to serve her Hive.
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Oath of the Gatewatch; the set that caused the competitive community to freak out over Basic Lands.
Anyways, a sliver planeswalker, if it happens, will very truly be a disappointment to most people if it ISN'T a queen, because that means it couldn't create new hives on new planes, making it.... sort of pointless to talk about it being a planeswalker. The spark isn't a physical trait that can be copied, and they aren't about to turn EVERY sliver into a walker if it shows up somewhere.
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I think that if they made a Sliver queen as a planeswalker then i think the ultiverse would be way F&*$(#*$@#( you see in Rath the slivers where no driving force on the plane but last time i readed about the riptide project on dominaria , ... well lets just say that they were luck that after all freyalise and windgrace toke control over the hive's mind...
It s like: Well you though that the Eldrazi and the Phyrexians were hard to fight?
A nice plot( I think) would be - A new M14 sliver gets its spark ingnited and while going to other planes without any slivers it starts to see that even if the hive is his hole life it see that even though the hive being glorious its nothing compared to the vastness of the multiverse and soo starts to go to other planes looking for things that can make the hive more powerfull.
Aren't they a single connected entity kind of deal, so all the slivers would become planeswalkers? After all, IIRC, the reason for the appearance change was that a shapeshifter got into the hive, gaining their abilities in exchange for his.
Aren't they a single connected entity kind of deal, so all the slivers would become planeswalkers? After all, IIRC, the reason for the appearance change was that a shapeshifter got into the hive, gaining their abilities in exchange for his.
No, we don't have any idea what brought about the alteration.
The Shapeshifter stumbled into the Skup, but he just observed the things around him, not trading anything.
And no, the spark isn't a physical trait that could be replicated, it's a spiritual thing.
I'm willing to chalk it up to all the Onslaught and Time Spiral slivers were descended from the original Rath lineage (were they not), and all the ones since M14 are from an entirely different plane, and thus evolved differently.
Though this doesn't do much to explain any of the future shifted slivers that are implied to be from other planes...
Rathi-lineage slivers are one thing, but we know explicitly that Shandalar slivers have individual personalities and a culture in spite of their hivemind physiology.
Individual beings equals individual souls equals no shared sparks.
Which begs the question: What do shandalar slivers have in common with actual slivers? They don't look the same, they don't work the same, they don't behave the same way, they don't even have the same colour distribution, because shandalar slivers are more heavily represented in white, green and red than in blue and black. o_O
It'd be a neat addition to my Sliver deck and would give me a concrete head for the deck. That's the one thing I always have in decks; a "centerpiece".
What do shandalar slivers have in common with actual slivers?
Identical larval stages.
They still share mutations, with the caveat that they can identify members of their own hive as opposed to just any sliver.
Five color tribe.
Led by a uniquely powerful five-color entity.
I don't know if this is a proven idea or just my head-cannon, but I like to think of Shandalari (?) slivers as fully formed slivers. The Rathi slivers were what the name implies - a sliver of a whole organism. The slivers of Shandalar are either a group of slivers formed together in a singular mass to complete a specific task or a well-developed, fully functional organism.
I wouldn't mind a sliver planeswalker that wasn't a queen. A random sliver walker could potentially create a very dynamic character. I can see it walking for the first time and breaking free from the hive mind, fearful and excited to discover the vast multiverse. Perhaps our little (or big) walker sliver would be fearful of going back to Shandalar, afraid to fall back in with the hive. Or maybe it would want to go back and share with its community the knowledge of other worlds. How would other worlds react to it? What worlds would invite this creature? Perhaps leaving the hive stripped our sliver walker of its identity, leaving it wandering and looking for something to define it (colorless sliver walker?). Unfortunately, a singular sliver thinking and acting on its own would go against what we've come to understand about them. I doubt creative would take this approach.
I would want to stay away from a queen walker, as we have enough infect-and-spread threats in the multiverse.
A queen walker doesn't exactly mean another threat to the Multiverse, per se. Granted, the Sliver track record doesn't provide evidence to the contrary. That being said, a queen walker would have a believable "spark activation": her hive is being overrun by some force, whether it's the local populace trying to rid her kind or an enemy hive coming to get rid of competition. Before she is about to be killed, poof, she vanishes into the Blind Eternities.
...that does lead to a revenge backstory which in turn, means taking over a plane until said queen has an army to go back to the homeworld to reclaim it but... it could be different? Maybe?
All I'm saying is, I'd be fine with a queen walker.
How about
The Eldrazi break free of their plane, and begin devouring Ravnica, Jace tries to fight back initially and is defeated, he leaves Ravnica his newly adopted home plane to find an answer to the Eldrazi threat. Jace runs into Nico Bolas, who suggests he uses his blue mage ability to take control of the mind of the queen and bring them back to Ravnica to answer the Eldrazi threat.
Jace makes it back with his sliver army, they fight against the Eldrazi driving them to another plane at the cost of a lot of sliver lives. Unknown to Jace, his tampering with the mind queen leads to her to tapping into his memories becoming more conscious of the multiverse, thus igniting her spark. (Jace is arrogant it wouldn't be a stretch to think that he would underestimate "These primitive beasts") Her spark ignites while connected to Jace's mind and Jace is driven insane by the collective mind of all slivers on the plane. (leading to a new Jace card, hopefully UB) The Queen then goes after Nico. Who was last found on Dominaria.
Creatively it wouldn't be hard to find a reason for a Sliver Planeswalker.
There already is a sliver planeswalker: Ess-Nelek of Shandalar. He uses Striking Sliver art for his portrait, he appears in Duels 2014 as a boss and uses a G/R/W Sliver deck. Considering Kiora and Ral Zarek got their starts from a Duels game, and we know that at the very least Ramaz's duel with Chandra is canon, it's possible we could see him show up again. We also might not, considering that it's an art reuse and they probably just wanted some fodder enemies to fight before the last boss.
There already is a sliver planeswalker: Ess-Nelek of Shandalar. He uses Striking Sliver art for his portrait, he appears in Duels 2014 as a boss and uses a G/R/W Sliver deck. Considering Kiora and Ral Zarek got their starts from a Duels game, and we know that at the very least Ramaz's duel with Chandra is canon, it's possible we could see him show up again. We also might not, considering that it's an art reuse and they probably just wanted some fodder enemies to fight before the last boss.
If i m not wrong Ess-Nelek is the New-sliver shaman that asked for a sliver token fosil...
In duel of the planeswalkers not all the enemies are planeswalkers. Some are just spellcasters or wariors ...
There was talk of making a Sliver planeswalker for a time, but nothing ever came of it because the walker spots are so few and we felt the design would be quite narrow.
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Also, just imagine the awesomeness that would be Ravnica over-run with Slivers; Simic would be a kid in a candy store, at least.
They're the most iconic WUBRG tribe and their five colorness is heavily tied into their mechanical identity.
I think the more humanoid look given in M14 is a step being taken to make the idea of slivers being sentient (a necessity for a spark) more obvious to players who might not be as immersed in the story.
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This was true before M14...
Shandalarian Slivers can actually talk and cast spells and are scentient beings with a whole culture ....
Strange!
Hope is is:
Planeswalker - tirojo
+1: put a 1/1 colorless sliver creature token into play.
-4: Search your library for a sliver creature card and put it into play.
-12: Search your library for any number of sliver creature cards and put them in play . Slivers creatures you control gains haste , trample and indestructible until the end of turn.
SL:7
Anyways, a sliver planeswalker, if it happens, will very truly be a disappointment to most people if it ISN'T a queen, because that means it couldn't create new hives on new planes, making it.... sort of pointless to talk about it being a planeswalker. The spark isn't a physical trait that can be copied, and they aren't about to turn EVERY sliver into a walker if it shows up somewhere.
Aye, it would have to be a Queen, sort of like an Ant Queen who spreads the colony out; after she found a suitable area (one with enough biomass for the Slivers to prosper) she would sacrifice her spark and start a new colony.
You could make quite the interesting story out of this, what with her potentially not wanting to put the lives of that many people in jeopardy, yet still wanting to serve her Hive.
Sorry about the card i made
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I think that if they made a Sliver queen as a planeswalker then i think the ultiverse would be way F&*$(#*$@#( you see in Rath the slivers where no driving force on the plane but last time i readed about the riptide project on dominaria , ... well lets just say that they were luck that after all freyalise and windgrace toke control over the hive's mind...
It s like: Well you though that the Eldrazi and the Phyrexians were hard to fight?
A nice plot( I think) would be - A new M14 sliver gets its spark ingnited and while going to other planes without any slivers it starts to see that even if the hive is his hole life it see that even though the hive being glorious its nothing compared to the vastness of the multiverse and soo starts to go to other planes looking for things that can make the hive more powerfull.
The spark is a unique quality to an individual's soul. Each sliver is a separate organism.
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No, we don't have any idea what brought about the alteration.
The Shapeshifter stumbled into the Skup, but he just observed the things around him, not trading anything.
And no, the spark isn't a physical trait that could be replicated, it's a spiritual thing.
Though this doesn't do much to explain any of the future shifted slivers that are implied to be from other planes...
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Individual beings equals individual souls equals no shared sparks.
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They still share mutations, with the caveat that they can identify members of their own hive as opposed to just any sliver.
Five color tribe.
Led by a uniquely powerful five-color entity.
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I wouldn't mind a sliver planeswalker that wasn't a queen. A random sliver walker could potentially create a very dynamic character. I can see it walking for the first time and breaking free from the hive mind, fearful and excited to discover the vast multiverse. Perhaps our little (or big) walker sliver would be fearful of going back to Shandalar, afraid to fall back in with the hive. Or maybe it would want to go back and share with its community the knowledge of other worlds. How would other worlds react to it? What worlds would invite this creature? Perhaps leaving the hive stripped our sliver walker of its identity, leaving it wandering and looking for something to define it (colorless sliver walker?). Unfortunately, a singular sliver thinking and acting on its own would go against what we've come to understand about them. I doubt creative would take this approach.
I would want to stay away from a queen walker, as we have enough infect-and-spread threats in the multiverse.
...that does lead to a revenge backstory which in turn, means taking over a plane until said queen has an army to go back to the homeworld to reclaim it but... it could be different? Maybe?
All I'm saying is, I'd be fine with a queen walker.
"Kiora is the Aquaman of planeswalkers."
"Useless and everyone pretends to like her?"
The Eldrazi break free of their plane, and begin devouring Ravnica, Jace tries to fight back initially and is defeated, he leaves Ravnica his newly adopted home plane to find an answer to the Eldrazi threat. Jace runs into Nico Bolas, who suggests he uses his blue mage ability to take control of the mind of the queen and bring them back to Ravnica to answer the Eldrazi threat.
Jace makes it back with his sliver army, they fight against the Eldrazi driving them to another plane at the cost of a lot of sliver lives. Unknown to Jace, his tampering with the mind queen leads to her to tapping into his memories becoming more conscious of the multiverse, thus igniting her spark. (Jace is arrogant it wouldn't be a stretch to think that he would underestimate "These primitive beasts") Her spark ignites while connected to Jace's mind and Jace is driven insane by the collective mind of all slivers on the plane. (leading to a new Jace card, hopefully U B) The Queen then goes after Nico. Who was last found on Dominaria.
Creatively it wouldn't be hard to find a reason for a Sliver Planeswalker.
If i m not wrong Ess-Nelek is the New-sliver shaman that asked for a sliver
tokenfosil...In duel of the planeswalkers not all the enemies are planeswalkers. Some are just spellcasters or wariors ...
Still, I think it's possible, if it hasn't actually happened with Ess-Nelek.