Yup, Doug admitted that it was a typo. Phewww. Anyways.....very handy overview indeed! I'm glad because I've been wanting to go back and reread through all the Tarkir stories in order and this is a great resource to access them all. And I for one am very curious to see where we'll go next week...
Well, MM2 spoilers start next week, so that makes things weird.
They could ignore it entirely in favor of more Tarkir stuff, or they'll focus on some MM2 stuff.
Maybe a Zendikar-story since next block is Zen?
Well in this week's UR they said they were turning the camera away from Tarkir next week to other planes in order to honor MM2. So.....what does that mean? I know MM2 includes cards from a bunch of the planes from the past. Maybe we'll get updates on these planes? That would be great. I just hope that it's not random filler stories featuring new made-up characters.
might just be the original UR format of "pick a random card and tell a short story about it"
That's what I expect. My guess is that the article will either preview Ulamog or Elesh Norn with a story about how they're causing trouble on Zendikar or New Phyrexia.
might just be the original UR format of "pick a random card and tell a short story about it"
That's what I expect. My guess is that the article will either preview Ulamog or Elesh Norn with a story about how they're causing trouble on Zendikar or New Phyrexia.
I would be ok with either of those things. More Eldrazi/Phyrexia are always welcome to me.
The fact that they are able to make a ****ing typo in the very most important sentence in the whole "article" and still publish it speaks volumes about the "quality" and attention paid to this product (meaning the UR). I am not even wondering anymore.
Seriously, I accepted the Theros summary article (it even got a special art of Heliod killing Elspeth), but this is underwhelming. Just stick the stories together in a list, make a summary of what we heard like million times, make a critical typu that changes the meaning of everything, job well done, NEXT!
Not even a special art...Sarkhan meeting Ugin? Sarkhan meeting Narset? Whatever....
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The fact that they are able to make a ****ing typo in the very most important sentence in the whole "article" and still publish it speaks volumes about the "quality" and attention paid to this product (meaning the UR). I am not even wondering anymore.
Seriously, I accepted the Theros summary article (it even got a special art of Heliod killing Elspeth), but this is underwhelming. Just stick the stories together in a list, make a summary of what we heard like million times, make a critical typu that changes the meaning of everything, job well done, NEXT!
Not even a special art...Sarkhan meeting Ugin? Sarkhan meeting Narset? Whatever....
In their defense, the website's main editor of long standing did pass away very recently.
Question, I'm slight confused about how Sarkhan works in this timeline so heres my guess at it;
So in Dragons timeline Sarkhan was never born. But because how he was needed to play out certain events that created the dragons timeline a "Sarkhan" appeared out of nowhere on the first plane Sarkhan Vol planeswalked to, with memories of the Khans timeline and played out the events on Alara and Zendikar. Then when "Sarkhan" retunes to Tarkir he kinda
"fused" with Sarkhan Vol when he returned from the past kinda in the way Wolvires mind went into his fututres selve body
.
If we are wishing can we see a UR on new Alara?
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The fact that they are able to make a ****ing typo in the very most important sentence in the whole "article" and still publish it speaks volumes about the "quality" and attention paid to this product (meaning the UR). I am not even wondering anymore.
Seriously, I accepted the Theros summary article (it even got a special art of Heliod killing Elspeth), but this is underwhelming. Just stick the stories together in a list, make a summary of what we heard like million times, make a critical typu that changes the meaning of everything, job well done, NEXT!
Not even a special art...Sarkhan meeting Ugin? Sarkhan meeting Narset? Whatever....
In their defense, the website's main editor of long standing did pass away very recently.
With all respect to Mike McArtor and his work, the numerous typos and factual errors are omnipresent since the upgrade to the "new" page in unprecedented frequency. Not since his tragic passing
But I can imagine that without him, there would be even more of them...
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Revisiting the other planes will be a welcome departure from Tarkir now the current story is closed. I hope they won't rehash what's already known but will provide new stories on what happened to these planes since we left them.
The fact that they are able to make a ****ing typo in the very most important sentence in the whole "article" and still publish it speaks volumes about the "quality" and attention paid to this product (meaning the UR). I am not even wondering anymore.
Seriously, I accepted the Theros summary article (it even got a special art of Heliod killing Elspeth), but this is underwhelming. Just stick the stories together in a list, make a summary of what we heard like million times, make a critical typu that changes the meaning of everything, job well done, NEXT!
Not even a special art...Sarkhan meeting Ugin? Sarkhan meeting Narset? Whatever....
Can we please all step back a moment and calm down? It's simply an honest mistake. Saying the opposite thing of what you wanted to say, especially on important points can happen very easily. Sometimes you think about different phrasings to say something until you settle for something else, but you still have an earlier version in your mind. Maybe you are so caught up in correcting something, that you double correct it. It's a thing that can easily happen, even if you're being careful, and I doubt the editors have nothing better to do than to proofread actual in-lore content.
I mean, I also didn't like the UR, because it literally didn't provide any new information, but this sort of tantrum is simply uncalled for.
Question, I'm slight confused about how Sarkhan works in this timeline so heres my guess at it;
So in Dragons timeline Sarkhan was never born. But because how he was needed to play out certain events that created the dragons timeline a "Sarkhan" appeared out of nowhere on the first plane Sarkhan Vol planeswalked to, with memories of the Khans timeline and played out the events on Alara and Zendikar. Then when "Sarkhan" retunes to Tarkir he kinda
"fused" with Sarkhan Vol when he returned from the past kinda in the way Wolvires mind went into his fututres selve body
.
If we are wishing can we see a UR on new Alara?
There was no 'fusing' as there was never a different sarkhan on tarkir, only the one that appeared from no where 1280 and the one that appeared from no where rather recently
Sarkhan never 'grew up' or was 'born' as far as the multiverse is concerned. He simply appeared from no where 3 separate times, the first plane he visited, past tarkir,and present tarkir. And while as far as most planes are concerned Planeswalkers appear from no where all the time sarkhan is unique in that the multuverse believes he appeared from no where, not a single reference point but all reference points see him as an anomaly.
The fact that they are able to make a ****ing typo in the very most important sentence in the whole "article" and still publish it speaks volumes about the "quality" and attention paid to this product (meaning the UR). I am not even wondering anymore.
Seriously, I accepted the Theros summary article (it even got a special art of Heliod killing Elspeth), but this is underwhelming. Just stick the stories together in a list, make a summary of what we heard like million times, make a critical typu that changes the meaning of everything, job well done, NEXT!
Not even a special art...Sarkhan meeting Ugin? Sarkhan meeting Narset? Whatever....
Can we please all step back a moment and calm down? It's simply an honest mistake. Saying the opposite thing of what you wanted to say, especially on important points can happen very easily. Sometimes you think about different phrasings to say something until you settle for something else, but you still have an earlier version in your mind. Maybe you are so caught up in correcting something, that you double correct it. It's a thing that can easily happen, even if you're being careful, and I doubt the editors have nothing better to do than to proofread actual in-lore content.
I mean, I also didn't like the UR, because it literally didn't provide any new information, but this sort of tantrum is simply uncalled for.
Agreed. Uncalled for and unnecessary. Let's just all relax...
I am just deeply disappointed, almost pained, from the current state and amount (or more precisely, the lack) of attention paid by the web team to what used to be my very favorite part of Magic.
Let's hope that the next plane-hopping weeks will bring something interesting :).
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What I found interesting was that the summary flat-out said that the dragon tempests' amplification was a kind of immune response. So I guess it's an involuntary version of Ugin calling on the dragons for his fight with Bolas. Given that it's been established that the tempests can't leave Tarkir (they haven't yet established if they continue while Ugin's off-plane, even in-company, though), I'm really starting to wonder what Ugin's real relationship to Tarkir is. My main hypotheses are "he created the plane" (making this the most stable artificial plane to date) and "he's an incarnation of Tarkir's genius" (although who or what "extracted" the genius is anyone's guess). To put the latter another way, there'd be no point to making a Soul of Tarkir card because that's already represented with Ugin.
But back to the immune response setup...Thing is, the "pathogen" that provoked the response would have been Bolas. Yet Bolas is nowhere to be seen, and the dragons aren't being held back by Ugin's interventions on the humanoids' behalf (like teaching them manifestation magic).
In other words, Tarkir 1.1 effectively has a minor auto-immune disorder. (1.0 was arguably Tarkir hit with the planar equivalent of AIDS.) Only I don't think the broodlords being aimed at Bolas is going to change much. Like as not, Tarkir's well-being, draconian and humanoid alike, may have become over-dependent on Ugin's interventions pre-Crux.
I am just deeply disappointed, almost pained, from the current state and amount (or more precisely, the lack) of attention paid by the web team to what used to be my very favorite part of Magic.
Let's hope that the next plane-hopping weeks will bring something interesting :).
I understand your disappointment, but don't you think that the attention to story and UR in general is FAR superior than it's been in a long while? Think about how we had little to NO story for the awesome setting of Innistrad and some pretty un-readable articles for Theros. At least we're getting a weekly story/episode that actually matters to the greater arc. I, for one, am excited to see what comes our way each Wednesday.
What I found interesting was that the summary flat-out said that the dragon tempests' amplification was a kind of immune response. So I guess it's an involuntary version of Ugin calling on the dragons for his fight with Bolas. Given that it's been established that the tempests can't leave Tarkir (they haven't yet established if they continue while Ugin's off-plane, even in-company, though), I'm really starting to wonder what Ugin's real relationship to Tarkir is. My main hypotheses are "he created the plane" (making this the most stable artificial plane to date) and "he's an incarnation of Tarkir's genius" (although who or what "extracted" the genius is anyone's guess). To put the latter another way, there'd be no point to making a Soul of Tarkir card because that's already represented with Ugin.
But back to the immune response setup...Thing is, the "pathogen" that provoked the response would have been Bolas. Yet Bolas is nowhere to be seen, and the dragons aren't being held back by Ugin's interventions on the humanoids' behalf (like teaching them manifestation magic).
In other words, Tarkir 1.1 effectively has a minor auto-immune disorder. (1.0 was arguably Tarkir hit with the planar equivalent of AIDS.) Only I don't think the broodlords being aimed at Bolas is going to change much. Like as not, Tarkir's well-being, draconian and humanoid alike, may have become over-dependent on Ugin's interventions pre-Crux.
What's more interesting in my eyes is that since it's an auto-immune response, the storms are likely to decrease in intensity now that Ugin is back. Yet another indicator that the clans of old might resurface.
Even after the calm has passed, I do think the summary is a little poor for my tastes, and I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one.
You (Wizards) only have one chance a week to nail it; it's not as if we get reports/stories/tidbits every other day or so.
This summary feels like a copy and paste; I would think if every factual paragraph (or two) had a tibit of what's to come, one would not criticize this piece as hard.
You guys also shouldn't come down so hard on Caranthir. He's angry coz he's one of the most passionate about MtG lore. If you're as vested as him, you'll feel the same as he did. He's angry coz he cares. I do too, coz I believe it can be better. Much better than this.
I agree with Caranthir, and I think the decline in quality is directly tied to the decision to stop publishing novels for each block. It's not so much that that's the cause, but rather just symptomatic of the deeper issue of the higher-ups no longer believing that it's very important to invest a lot of time and energy into the creative side of Magic because only a minority of the player base is invested in it. Players not generally being invested in the story is nothing new, but they continued to put out novels regardless (heck, they even bundled them into the Fat Packs). With the sudden surge in Magic's popularity, it seems that they are just going all-in on maximizing profits by cutting back on any elements deemed non-essential to Magic's continued growth. They probably figure that those who follow the storyline are already heavily invested in Magic, so there's not a lot to be gained by putting a lot of resources behind Creative.
I am just deeply disappointed, almost pained, from the current state and amount (or more precisely, the lack) of attention paid by the web team to what used to be my very favorite part of Magic.
Let's hope that the next plane-hopping weeks will bring something interesting :).
I understand your disappointment, but don't you think that the attention to story and UR in general is FAR superior than it's been in a long while? Think about how we had little to NO story for the awesome setting of Innistrad and some pretty un-readable articles for Theros. At least we're getting a weekly story/episode that actually matters to the greater arc. I, for one, am excited to see what comes our way each Wednesday.
No, I do not think so. At all. But you would probably have to walk in my shoes the last 18 years to understand me.
As someone who still fondly looks through the Tempest mini-storybook from the Starter Pack of Tempest, who remembers the golden era of novels with some true gems...
Innistrad was a missed chance. As for Theros, I enjoyed the atmosphere-invoking articles.
To put it shortly and compare it to food - in the beginning, we got some things that maybe were not perfect, but "cooked" with love, enthusiasm, the stories were emotionally invested, etc.
Then they got even better, and we got great feasts with several courses from master chefs (The Thran, Brothers's War, Planeswalker, Ice Age novels, etc...) as well as from new, but caring, invested, innovative cooks (Scott McGough, Cory Herndon). Wizards actually cared to feed us such treats.
And then it went downhill. Ari Marmell managed the last true feast. Laura Resnick's meal was half-eaten before serving. Alara Unbroken was a product of a clumsy, but enthusiastic cook who tried to emulate the old masters. John Vornholt was kicked out after them getting the first taste, and Matt Stover cynically tried to feed us neatly arranged horse dung on the pretense that it is a delicacy. And I can continue...
What I am getting to: They do not even hire real "cooks" now, instead giving the job to almost anyone who can cook pasta with ketchup without burning the stove.
The result is something slightly above typical junk food. You can go there each week, eat your meal, but it feels unoriginal, bland, artificial, boring.
Sometimes you get there sugar instead of salt, sometimes a potato peel instead of a slice of bacon, but who cares - you are not the one making their business running.
But when you are starving, yes, it is better than having nothing to eat.
Is this kind of meal enough for you? OK.
Feel free to call me spoiled, but I believe we could be getting more, with regard to what once was.
I agree with Caranthir, and I think the decline in quality is directly tied to the decision to stop publishing novels for each block. It's not so much that that's the cause, but rather just symptomatic of the deeper issue of the higher-ups no longer believing that it's very important to invest a lot of time and energy into the creative side of Magic because only a minority of the player base is invested in it. Players not generally being invested in the story is nothing new, but they continued to put out novels regardless (heck, they even bundled them into the Fat Packs). With the sudden surge in Magic's popularity, it seems that they are just going all-in on maximizing profits by cutting back on any elements deemed non-essential to Magic's continued growth. They probably figure that those who follow the storyline are already heavily invested in Magic, so there's not a lot to be gained by putting a lot of resources behind Creative.
Well said, my friend. Excellently said...
This might not be the end of Magic as a game, but very well the end of Magic for me.
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They could ignore it entirely in favor of more Tarkir stuff, or they'll focus on some MM2 stuff.
Maybe a Zendikar-story since next block is Zen?
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Well in this week's UR they said they were turning the camera away from Tarkir next week to other planes in order to honor MM2. So.....what does that mean? I know MM2 includes cards from a bunch of the planes from the past. Maybe we'll get updates on these planes? That would be great. I just hope that it's not random filler stories featuring new made-up characters.
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I would be ok with either of those things. More Eldrazi/Phyrexia are always welcome to me.
The fact that they are able to make a ****ing typo in the very most important sentence in the whole "article" and still publish it speaks volumes about the "quality" and attention paid to this product (meaning the UR). I am not even wondering anymore.
Seriously, I accepted the Theros summary article (it even got a special art of Heliod killing Elspeth), but this is underwhelming. Just stick the stories together in a list, make a summary of what we heard like million times, make a critical typu that changes the meaning of everything, job well done, NEXT!
Not even a special art...Sarkhan meeting Ugin? Sarkhan meeting Narset? Whatever....
Let this great clan rest in peace (2001-2011)
So in Dragons timeline Sarkhan was never born. But because how he was needed to play out certain events that created the dragons timeline a "Sarkhan" appeared out of nowhere on the first plane Sarkhan Vol planeswalked to, with memories of the Khans timeline and played out the events on Alara and Zendikar. Then when "Sarkhan" retunes to Tarkir he kinda
If we are wishing can we see a UR on new Alara?
"You can tell how dumb someone is by how they use Mary Sue"
With all respect to Mike McArtor and his work, the numerous typos and factual errors are omnipresent since the upgrade to the "new" page in unprecedented frequency. Not since his tragic passing
But I can imagine that without him, there would be even more of them...
Let this great clan rest in peace (2001-2011)
Can we please all step back a moment and calm down? It's simply an honest mistake. Saying the opposite thing of what you wanted to say, especially on important points can happen very easily. Sometimes you think about different phrasings to say something until you settle for something else, but you still have an earlier version in your mind. Maybe you are so caught up in correcting something, that you double correct it. It's a thing that can easily happen, even if you're being careful, and I doubt the editors have nothing better to do than to proofread actual in-lore content.
I mean, I also didn't like the UR, because it literally didn't provide any new information, but this sort of tantrum is simply uncalled for.
There was no 'fusing' as there was never a different sarkhan on tarkir, only the one that appeared from no where 1280 and the one that appeared from no where rather recently
Sarkhan never 'grew up' or was 'born' as far as the multiverse is concerned. He simply appeared from no where 3 separate times, the first plane he visited, past tarkir,and present tarkir. And while as far as most planes are concerned Planeswalkers appear from no where all the time sarkhan is unique in that the multuverse believes he appeared from no where, not a single reference point but all reference points see him as an anomaly.
Agreed. Uncalled for and unnecessary. Let's just all relax...
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I am just deeply disappointed, almost pained, from the current state and amount (or more precisely, the lack) of attention paid by the web team to what used to be my very favorite part of Magic.
Let's hope that the next plane-hopping weeks will bring something interesting :).
Let this great clan rest in peace (2001-2011)
But back to the immune response setup...Thing is, the "pathogen" that provoked the response would have been Bolas. Yet Bolas is nowhere to be seen, and the dragons aren't being held back by Ugin's interventions on the humanoids' behalf (like teaching them manifestation magic).
In other words, Tarkir 1.1 effectively has a minor auto-immune disorder. (1.0 was arguably Tarkir hit with the planar equivalent of AIDS.) Only I don't think the broodlords being aimed at Bolas is going to change much. Like as not, Tarkir's well-being, draconian and humanoid alike, may have become over-dependent on Ugin's interventions pre-Crux.
I understand your disappointment, but don't you think that the attention to story and UR in general is FAR superior than it's been in a long while? Think about how we had little to NO story for the awesome setting of Innistrad and some pretty un-readable articles for Theros. At least we're getting a weekly story/episode that actually matters to the greater arc. I, for one, am excited to see what comes our way each Wednesday.
What's more interesting in my eyes is that since it's an auto-immune response, the storms are likely to decrease in intensity now that Ugin is back. Yet another indicator that the clans of old might resurface.
You (Wizards) only have one chance a week to nail it; it's not as if we get reports/stories/tidbits every other day or so.
This summary feels like a copy and paste; I would think if every factual paragraph (or two) had a tibit of what's to come, one would not criticize this piece as hard.
You guys also shouldn't come down so hard on Caranthir. He's angry coz he's one of the most passionate about MtG lore. If you're as vested as him, you'll feel the same as he did. He's angry coz he cares. I do too, coz I believe it can be better. Much better than this.
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No, I do not think so. At all. But you would probably have to walk in my shoes the last 18 years to understand me.
As someone who still fondly looks through the Tempest mini-storybook from the Starter Pack of Tempest, who remembers the golden era of novels with some true gems...
Innistrad was a missed chance. As for Theros, I enjoyed the atmosphere-invoking articles.
To put it shortly and compare it to food - in the beginning, we got some things that maybe were not perfect, but "cooked" with love, enthusiasm, the stories were emotionally invested, etc.
Then they got even better, and we got great feasts with several courses from master chefs (The Thran, Brothers's War, Planeswalker, Ice Age novels, etc...) as well as from new, but caring, invested, innovative cooks (Scott McGough, Cory Herndon). Wizards actually cared to feed us such treats.
And then it went downhill. Ari Marmell managed the last true feast. Laura Resnick's meal was half-eaten before serving. Alara Unbroken was a product of a clumsy, but enthusiastic cook who tried to emulate the old masters. John Vornholt was kicked out after them getting the first taste, and Matt Stover cynically tried to feed us neatly arranged horse dung on the pretense that it is a delicacy. And I can continue...
What I am getting to: They do not even hire real "cooks" now, instead giving the job to almost anyone who can cook pasta with ketchup without burning the stove.
The result is something slightly above typical junk food. You can go there each week, eat your meal, but it feels unoriginal, bland, artificial, boring.
Sometimes you get there sugar instead of salt, sometimes a potato peel instead of a slice of bacon, but who cares - you are not the one making their business running.
But when you are starving, yes, it is better than having nothing to eat.
Is this kind of meal enough for you? OK.
Feel free to call me spoiled, but I believe we could be getting more, with regard to what once was.
Well said, my friend. Excellently said...
This might not be the end of Magic as a game, but very well the end of Magic for me.
PS: Thanks Bolas and orlouge
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