Just a question, what characters in the MTG novels made love or possibly made love with each other? The possibly is that it was not mention in the books but a chance could happen.
Umm.. just the 'couples' in Magic's history.. but I'm sure someone else has a comprehensive list. Off the top of my head I could imagine Barrin and his wife, since you know, Hanna was his daughter.. so they kinda had to.
Aside from the obvious couples who have children, like Alacar mentioned, I remember Toshi/Kiku and Mishra/Ashnod. Supposedly, both Mishra and Urza had sex with Kayla bin Kroog, Urza's first wife.
Then there's Belbe and Ertai. But I wouldn't call what they did 'making love'. (Though I'm not really the kind of person who uses that term anyway. Unless I'm being ironic and/or sarcastic.)
didnt the first and braids have a hoochie-hoochie moment? i remember seeing someone mention it but since i havent read the books yet i cant tell, if im wrong sorry im just mentioning what i think i read here some time ago.
Nope, impossible. Phage and the First did though.
Eladammari and Lin-Sivvi?
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This is a topic that's been running for a long time on the WotC boards. Just to save time, here's a list I compiled:
Characters definitely did it:
Barrin & Rayne - Confirmed, as they had a child
Cabal Patriarch & Phage - Confirmed, as they had a child
Cho-Manno & Orim - Confirmed, as they were married and also had descendants (from the Future Sight card spoiler)
Chromium Rhuell & Piru - Confirmed, they were listed as "mates", or "life-mates"
Lothar & Alexandrite - Confirmed, as the New Argivian line continued
Drafna & Hurkyl - Confirmed, as they were married a long time
Ertai & Belbe - Confirmed, from Nemesis
Feroz & Serra - Confirmed, as they were in love
Glacian & Rebbec - Confirmed, because Glacian's was super pissed at Yawgmoth for stealing his chick
Jarad & Fonn - Confirmed, as they had a child
Jared Carthalion & Kristina - Confirmed, as they were a couple
Jodah & Siva - Confirmed, as they were married
Mishra & Ashnod - Confirmed, from The Brothers' War
Toshiro Umezawa & Kiku - Confirmed, from Guardian: Saviors of Kamigawa
Urza & Kayla bin-Kroog - Confirmed, from The Brothers' War
Characters that probably did it:
Gerrard Capashen & Hanna - Never explicitly said, but certainly implied
Ixidor & Nivea - Never explicitly said, but certainly implied
Mishra & Kayla bin-Kroog - Whether or not Harbin is Mishra's son or Urza's, it's pretty apparent that Kayla had an affair with Mishra
Ratepe & Xantcha - The sheer mechanics behind this baffle the mind, but it's certainly possible. Ew.
Sandruu & Kristina - Again, ew, but certainly implied.
Taysir & Kristina - Never explicitly said, but certainly implied, giving Taysir even more of a reason to hate Sandruu
Teferi & Jhoira - We're having this discussion on another board here at MTGS
Yawgmoth & Rebbec - Never explicitly said, but certainly implied, may have even been non-consenting
Characters that may have done it:
Karn & Jeska - Never implied, but certainly possible, but now that Future Sight is out it seems that they probably just had a teacher/student relationship (and not the good one, heh)
Tawnos & Ashnod - Never implied, but certainly possible
I'm sure there are more instances. Also, there's an implied relationship at the end of Future Sight, but that would be spoiling things. If anyone is that interested, look in the Future Sight Spoilers thread.
Now here's another interesting debate: Who is Magic's biggest, er, shall we say, "experienced" woman? Kristina of the Woods or Kayla bin-Kroog?
Kristina made it with Taysir, then dumped him for Sandruu, then made it with Jared Carthalion, then hit on Taysir again in Invasion.
or
Kayla made it with Urza, flirted a lot with Tawnos, had an affair with Mishra, spent a lot of time around Tawnos (using him as a surrogate father for her illegitimate/legitimate son), then hooked back up with Urza
And then there's Jhoira, who probably had a thing with Teferi a thousand years ago (which is also creepy), then flirted with Jodah and Venser during Planar Chaos.
A note on planeswalkers--they really don't require anything. I would suggest any planeswalker pairings would be "possible" rather than confirmed.
The exception, of course, would be Kristina and Jared. Kristina and Jared is confirmed from the comics and, based on my notes, they had a daughter (after Jared ascended, but who was potentially conceived before) named Justina (original, wasn't it?).
Ratepe and Xantcha confuse me. I thought newts were basically sexless. Does she even have sexual anatomy? If not, she could still have pleasured Ratepe in other ways, which could still constitute as sex.
Magic's Most Experienced Woman would be Kristina of the Woods.
Of course, as is typical in modern society, it is the woman who is labeled as the more permiscuous, which usually negative connotations, so I'll pose the male question. Of course, Kristina is more experienced due to her age rather than promiscuity.
As for my answer . . . Jodah would, no doubt, be the most experienced. His wives died off while he lived on. I believe in Eternal Ice he mentioned he had lived with many women throughout the years (monogomously if I recall correctly).
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Pity Jodah never met Kristina (that we know of)... *hem*
Though we only know about Kiku and Toshi pairing together, something tells me either or both got around... we at LEAST know Toshi slept with some random Madaran dame to spawn an entire line of Umezawas.
I don't recall Kayla flirting much with Tawnos IN THE BOOK, though she did in the comic... in both continuities, she cheats on Urza to the point that Harbin's father is in doubt, but I don't think she went that much farther. It seems that role just moved to Mishra from Tawnos when comic went to book. So I'd give the floozy-prize to Kristina (not saying that promiscuity is bad... just that Kristina, specifically, is a floozy).
Ratepe and Xantcha confuse me. I thought newts were basically sexless. Does she even have sexual anatomy? If not, she could still have pleasured Ratepe in other ways, which could still constitute as sex.
I'm quite sure the book explicitly stated that they tried various...things...
No, Belbe made it a point to point out that she was, er, fully equipped. Ertai seemed to appreciate Phyrexian design. Bow-chicka-bow-wow.
Squirrel, I was just joking about the fact that they probably had a sexual relationship a thousand years before Time Spiral. I can just picture a funny situation popping up while the three are sitting around Urborg.
Teferi - "See that chick?"
Venser - "Yeah, she's pretty hot."
Teferi - "Yeah ... I banged her a thousand years ago."
Venser - "Um, nevermind."
And Vest, Kayla definitely flirted with Tawnos even in the books. She comments to herself lots of times that she appreciated seeing Tawnos without a shirt on. Then during the chapter where she's speaking with Tawnos about how Urza never "comes to see her anymore," there are a lot of not-so-subtle hints that Tawnos could very will fill that role.
And I said "role," not 4ole. Just wanted the mods to be sure of that.
Bow-chicka-bow-wow.
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One thing I notice is that most of the half-breeds are with humans. This shows how humans will mate with anything.
I think that it also shows that most things in the dominarian universe are humanoid. Look at elves, they're basically evolved humans with pointy ears. There's no real biological difference between human and elf, so that explains a lot of H/E halfbreeds. Halfbreed elf // humans are the most common halfbreeds in fantasy, so I think it's not too unusual. Now, a half imp half human is something that I want to see.
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Eladamri and Sivvi never got it on. They only admitted they had deep feelings for each other seconds before they died via leaping off of a magnigoth treefolk into the waiting arms of Yawgmoth.
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Ever since reading Planeswalker, with all the implications and allusions to the deed, how did Xantcha and Ratepe do it? I mean, wasn't Xantcha a Newt, and aren't the Newts androgynous?
Ravnica certainly offered up...imaginative...possibilities when it came to relationships.
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Jace was an awesome character and the neo-walkers seem like they will be a good concept given what I read in Agents of Artifice.
There's more than one way to have sex. As long as hands and mouths are around, humans can make do. (actualy, I'm pretty sure they can even make do without those. Humans are pretty ingenious when it comes to sex)
Question: When a human recieves Phyrexian implants, does he or she retain his or her genitalia, or does Yawgmoth or the vat priest performing the operation remove it?
This is a funny question, but has an even more funny answer.
Yes, the priests nip the tip. How do we know this? Heterosexual reproduction has no place whatsoever on Phyrexia. It just doesn't happen. New Phyrexians are created by dumping leftover Phyrexian organic matter into a vat, then decanting it in the shape of whatever is currently needed. Then cybornetic implants are added.
There have, however, been Phyrexian sleeper agents who were completely "functional" in that regard, so that Phyrexia could manipulate governmental bodies on Dominaria and presumably other worlds.
There's a funny little passage in Invasion where Tsabo Tavoc remarks on how Thaddeus is less like a human and more like a Phyrexian because he doesn't have any naughty bits. She also goes on to remark that human genitalia is a weakness because females came become impregnated and are therefore unable to serve as effective combatants, and males have external genitalia that can render them ineffective combatants if someone where to injure them there. That's right, Tsabo Tavoc knows all about kickin' in da bawlz.
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Nope, impossible. Phage and the First did though.
Eladammari and Lin-Sivvi?
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Characters definitely did it:
Barrin & Rayne - Confirmed, as they had a child
Cabal Patriarch & Phage - Confirmed, as they had a child
Cho-Manno & Orim - Confirmed, as they were married and also had descendants (from the Future Sight card spoiler)
Chromium Rhuell & Piru - Confirmed, they were listed as "mates", or "life-mates"
Lothar & Alexandrite - Confirmed, as the New Argivian line continued
Drafna & Hurkyl - Confirmed, as they were married a long time
Ertai & Belbe - Confirmed, from Nemesis
Feroz & Serra - Confirmed, as they were in love
Glacian & Rebbec - Confirmed, because Glacian's was super pissed at Yawgmoth for stealing his chick
Jarad & Fonn - Confirmed, as they had a child
Jared Carthalion & Kristina - Confirmed, as they were a couple
Jodah & Siva - Confirmed, as they were married
Mishra & Ashnod - Confirmed, from The Brothers' War
Toshiro Umezawa & Kiku - Confirmed, from Guardian: Saviors of Kamigawa
Urza & Kayla bin-Kroog - Confirmed, from The Brothers' War
Characters that probably did it:
Gerrard Capashen & Hanna - Never explicitly said, but certainly implied
Ixidor & Nivea - Never explicitly said, but certainly implied
Mishra & Kayla bin-Kroog - Whether or not Harbin is Mishra's son or Urza's, it's pretty apparent that Kayla had an affair with Mishra
Ratepe & Xantcha - The sheer mechanics behind this baffle the mind, but it's certainly possible. Ew.
Sandruu & Kristina - Again, ew, but certainly implied.
Taysir & Kristina - Never explicitly said, but certainly implied, giving Taysir even more of a reason to hate Sandruu
Teferi & Jhoira - We're having this discussion on another board here at MTGS
Yawgmoth & Rebbec - Never explicitly said, but certainly implied, may have even been non-consenting
Characters that may have done it:
Karn & Jeska - Never implied, but certainly possible, but now that Future Sight is out it seems that they probably just had a teacher/student relationship (and not the good one, heh)
Tawnos & Ashnod - Never implied, but certainly possible
I'm sure there are more instances. Also, there's an implied relationship at the end of Future Sight, but that would be spoiling things. If anyone is that interested, look in the Future Sight Spoilers thread.
Now here's another interesting debate: Who is Magic's biggest, er, shall we say, "experienced" woman? Kristina of the Woods or Kayla bin-Kroog?
Kristina made it with Taysir, then dumped him for Sandruu, then made it with Jared Carthalion, then hit on Taysir again in Invasion.
or
Kayla made it with Urza, flirted a lot with Tawnos, had an affair with Mishra, spent a lot of time around Tawnos (using him as a surrogate father for her illegitimate/legitimate son), then hooked back up with Urza
And then there's Jhoira, who probably had a thing with Teferi a thousand years ago (which is also creepy), then flirted with Jodah and Venser during Planar Chaos.
Either way: Bow-chicka-bow-wow.
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The exception, of course, would be Kristina and Jared. Kristina and Jared is confirmed from the comics and, based on my notes, they had a daughter (after Jared ascended, but who was potentially conceived before) named Justina (original, wasn't it?).
Ratepe and Xantcha confuse me. I thought newts were basically sexless. Does she even have sexual anatomy? If not, she could still have pleasured Ratepe in other ways, which could still constitute as sex.
Magic's Most Experienced Woman would be Kristina of the Woods.
Of course, as is typical in modern society, it is the woman who is labeled as the more permiscuous, which usually negative connotations, so I'll pose the male question. Of course, Kristina is more experienced due to her age rather than promiscuity.
As for my answer . . . Jodah would, no doubt, be the most experienced. His wives died off while he lived on. I believe in Eternal Ice he mentioned he had lived with many women throughout the years (monogomously if I recall correctly).
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Though we only know about Kiku and Toshi pairing together, something tells me either or both got around... we at LEAST know Toshi slept with some random Madaran dame to spawn an entire line of Umezawas.
I don't recall Kayla flirting much with Tawnos IN THE BOOK, though she did in the comic... in both continuities, she cheats on Urza to the point that Harbin's father is in doubt, but I don't think she went that much farther. It seems that role just moved to Mishra from Tawnos when comic went to book. So I'd give the floozy-prize to Kristina (not saying that promiscuity is bad... just that Kristina, specifically, is a floozy).
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I'm quite sure the book explicitly stated that they tried various...things...
And yes, newts have no sexual anatomy.
Squirrel, I was just joking about the fact that they probably had a sexual relationship a thousand years before Time Spiral. I can just picture a funny situation popping up while the three are sitting around Urborg.
Teferi - "See that chick?"
Venser - "Yeah, she's pretty hot."
Teferi - "Yeah ... I banged her a thousand years ago."
Venser - "Um, nevermind."
And Vest, Kayla definitely flirted with Tawnos even in the books. She comments to herself lots of times that she appreciated seeing Tawnos without a shirt on. Then during the chapter where she's speaking with Tawnos about how Urza never "comes to see her anymore," there are a lot of not-so-subtle hints that Tawnos could very will fill that role.
And I said "role," not 4ole. Just wanted the mods to be sure of that.
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One thing I notice is that most of the half-breeds are with humans. This shows how humans will mate with anything.
I think that it also shows that most things in the dominarian universe are humanoid. Look at elves, they're basically evolved humans with pointy ears. There's no real biological difference between human and elf, so that explains a lot of H/E halfbreeds. Halfbreed elf // humans are the most common halfbreeds in fantasy, so I think it's not too unusual. Now, a half imp half human is something that I want to see.
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Yes, the priests nip the tip. How do we know this? Heterosexual reproduction has no place whatsoever on Phyrexia. It just doesn't happen. New Phyrexians are created by dumping leftover Phyrexian organic matter into a vat, then decanting it in the shape of whatever is currently needed. Then cybornetic implants are added.
There have, however, been Phyrexian sleeper agents who were completely "functional" in that regard, so that Phyrexia could manipulate governmental bodies on Dominaria and presumably other worlds.
There's a funny little passage in Invasion where Tsabo Tavoc remarks on how Thaddeus is less like a human and more like a Phyrexian because he doesn't have any naughty bits. She also goes on to remark that human genitalia is a weakness because females came become impregnated and are therefore unable to serve as effective combatants, and males have external genitalia that can render them ineffective combatants if someone where to injure them there. That's right, Tsabo Tavoc knows all about kickin' in da bawlz.
Phyrexians are so romantic.
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