I have seen many of the Coldsnap previews, but thought it would be intriguing to speculate and discover the setting and characters of Coldsnap. Will a minor story be told through the flavor text, as the Brothers' War was told through the flavor of Antiquities?
It is the third set of Ice Age--to follow Alliances? or to fit between Ice Age and Alliances?
There is still plenty of snow. There is rumor that King Darien of Kjeldor will be a legend, which means this set would take place before Alliances--especially since there is a focus on snow, and the Age of Floods was already beginning by the time of The Shattered Alliance.
That means we should expect more (pre-ascendant) Jaya. I do not expect them to include Jodah in flavor text, though that would be entertaining.
I would like this thread to compile the events at the end of The Eternal Ice and the beginning of The Shattered Alliance. According to prerevisionist material (note: I am referencing unpublished material, that was nodded to in Shattered Alliance), Jaya accompanied Jaeuhl Carthalion and Kaysa to Yavimaya, where they fought off gorillas and a Phyrexian construct brought to life by Yavimaya (as the Phyrexians were later controlled during the Invasion). This was referenced by Jaya when she spoke with Jodah at the opening of Alliance.
Anyway. I will work on provided a summary of this unpublished material shared with me by Jeff Gomez, who was the editor of the Armada comics. If someone could summarize the end of Eternal Ice and the beginning of Shattered Alliance (as I do not have my books with me), let's see what we can come up with as a setting for the Coldsnap set.
(And, as a personal challenge, perhaps I'll do some fanfiction if anyone would be interested in reading what I come up with. But that will be later. First, some research.)
Anyone up for this discovery with me?
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After reading the novels, it always felt to me that the 3 block set felt like The Dark, Ice Age, and Alliances.
Guess I was wrong, but there are defiently aspects from The Dark that are present in the first book, Which they are including with the Fat Pack for Coldsnap.
So if we're using the books as a guide for the set, the third book would cover Coldsnap. The third book covers a lot of time.
Actually, there's a lot of time unaccounted for between the second and thrid books. Maybe the setting will be there?
I'm thinking though, that because they've said this is the third set in the block, that it should take place after Alliances. If it were to take place before Alliances, it would be the second block in the set.
Terisiare, the island continent that was home to the Brothers’ War and the Ice Age, is in a state of rebirth known as the Thaw. The icy shell that encased the continent is melting away. Most of the inhabitants of Terisiare rejoice as the ice gives way to warmth and the rebirth of the land. But, in this time of great change, there are some who see it as a time to angle for power, a secretive society of mages poised to shroud the continent with their icy brand of magic.
A tournament-legal expansion designed to complete the Ice Age block, Coldsnap returns players to the lands and characters of Kjeld, Krov, the Fyndhorn Forest, Soldev, Koilos, and more. We can't tell you much about this set yet, but keep watching magicthegathering.com for more as the set nears. The Coldsnap minisite launches Wednesday, June 21, and exclusive card previews begin the week of June 26!
That means we are somewhere after Lim-Dûl's escape and Freyalise's World-spell. As it is the third set of the block, it would make sense to occur after the events of The Shattered Alliance (yet before the epilogue, as that takes place well after the Flood Age and the Thaw, as it is now referred to as well).
This blurb tells us of a secretive society of mages. We know the School of the Unseen was destroyed, so it can't be Jodah's people. Is Chaeska still around? I know Jaya unsummoned him, but does that mean he was just sent back to Tresserhorn, or was he unmade? We also have the name "Garza Zol, Plague Queen" from the flavor text of a card. Perhaps she replaced Chaeska, or is from elsewhere.
But, there is also the missing Zur, and Marit Lage. Would there be followers from either of these two mages? Or the mages themselves? Zur has history (he was mentioned in passing at least in Eternal Ice), whereas Marit Lage is still a complete mystery to us (other than she is sleeping). With the ice melting, Marit Lage may come out of hiding, and Zur may strike again (he was searching for eternal life, wasn't he?).
There are also the Adnates and such from Soldev, but I wouldn't consider them snow mages. They are more artificers, yes?
So, we have a whole lot of possibilities.
But then there are the locations mentioned, and they all make sense, except Koilos. Well, it's still around, but it wasn't a familiar location from Ice Age or Alliances. Either way, Yavimaya should be added to the list, as that's where we'll find gorillas and elves (as well as the elves from Fyndhorn).
So, it appears we will be looking at Terisiare more than twenty years after the World-spell. I hope WotC didn't get mixed up again and forget how thawed the world should be. Either way, there is still ice, and the forests are growing. Mairsil's threat is gone. Jaya is off as a planeswalker, so I wouldn't imagine seeing her. I would be surprised to see Jodah being added, but I also wouldn't expect to see Jaeuhl Carthalion (or was he used in flavor in Alliances . . . I think he was, so nevermind, he may appear).
My guess is that we will be looking at the unification of Balduvia and Kjeld. Any remaining undead would have to be dealt with. Political machinations would be high. Effects of both the remaining ice and the Thaw would influence everything. The forests would be returning to normal, so wildlife would be in flux (from ice creatures to more new-temperature appropriate inhabitants).
Elder Druid Kaysa and Jaeuhl Carthalion would be settled in Yavimaya, with at least one child by now (this was the original story of Alliances, found in some of the flavor text and the unpublished comic). The Carthalion line has left the rest of the Terisiaran continent. This would be a great thread to pursue.
King Darien and Lovia Coldeyes have to work on creating new government structures and actual communities to unite their people to form New Argive. If there are threats from a secretive society of mages, then there will be difficulties there.
Will Jodah be around to help the situation? I think perhaps he would be trying to slide into the shadows now. He spoke of mammoths (referring originally to planeswalkers). Perhaps he doesn't want to become a non-planeswalker mammoth himself and decided to travel. Or, he chose to sit down and continue to compile history, be an observer. Maybe he even began to further study planeswalkers. We don't know how he later found Urza (and that was only one hundred years after the World-spell, so it's not too far off). Urza also was not on Terisiare, so Jodah may already be on the move.
So . . . what else do you guys think?
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Phyrexians? In Yavimaya? I've a feeling there will be Kavu... I always wondered why Kavu were made to combat Phyrexians... when they never met them. So now would be the time...
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Wow thanks for the summary, Alliances isn't at all like I remembered it, as for some reason i thought Jayas possession was book 2. Ice Age was a truly great cycle.
Snap would be in between-ish then.
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Phyrexian artifacts and remnants are all over the place--from the Thran, and maybe even from during the Brothers' War. Soldev had Phyrexians excavated. Jamuraa had Phyrexians buried (as in the Mirage block). So, Phyrexians in Yavimaya is not too far-fetched.
At the moment, I do not have my prerev Alliances notes, but I will post them when I have the chance. Basically, Jaeuhl Carthalion (who banished Szat from Dominaria with the Amulet of Quoz and Freyalise's guidance) and Kaysa (the young "Elder" Druid who married him) bring a group of elves and humans to Yavimaya. Jaya accompanies them as a task mage. They have a conflict with the sentient gorillas there, but it is peaceably resolved. They also fight a Phyrexian beast, under control of the Heart of Yavimaya (if I recall correctly; this is later echoed in the Invasion, when Phyrexians were destroyed by Yavimayan plants I think).
If Phyrexians were always in Yavimaya, the Kavu could have been created beginning back in the time of the Thran. I'm sure that the Brothers' War and the Soldev incident after the World-spell convinced Multani and the Heart of Yavimaya that something needed to be done. I don't expect Kavu in Coldsnap, however. Of course, it may be cool to think that any dinosaurs from the Ice Age were brought underground by the Heart and they bred and evolved to become the Kavu. It depends what was said of the Kavu in the Invasion books. Didn't Multni explain how long they had waited to be released?
I still think this set's story would take place after Alliances (the set and novel). New Argive would actively be being formed, and the story would continue. I don't think they need to place this between Ice Age and Alliances. If it is explained as a state of rebirth, I think twenty years after the Ice Age wuold make sense. The first twenty would be transition, and now the people can work to re-create the land.
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That's one of the threads with the highest info density here, thanks, Zaz, and Squirle!
As for the "secret school of mages", I have a gnawing feeling that they are something entirely new...maybe the Rimewind necromancers referred in Chilling Shade's flavor text. But it would be coon if we get more info about Marit Lage and her followers.
As for the Soulgorger...It seems that its flavortext was made in the same way as all the pre-Urza's Saga "Phyrexian" cards were...because I think that the Phyrexia we all know and some of us even love was born during the Saga block - the older cards like Phyrexian Gremlins or Gate to Phyrexia are good examples of the "old view of Phyrexia". Fitting to Ice Age block, but weird for us now.
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It could also just be referring to a Priest of Gix, Yawgmoth Priest, or Soldevi Adnate.
At this point with the information given, I believe this will be set after the Alliances card-set, and after the Shattered Alliances novel. The connection between the end of Alliances and use of Ohran creatures is intriguing, and I would love for there to be the Jodah connection (do we know where the Ohran Ridges are? because I don't think it's Terisiare).
I think, to fit with the Ice Age card-set block, they would need to focus on the original premises of the Ice Age story. That would mean we won't be seeing Jodah, and there'd be a greater possibility of more references to Jaeuhl and Kaysa. However, with Jaya's ascendance, they shouldn't keep her around. So--perhaps a synthesis of prerevistions and revisionist? That would be an amazing feat. We would have references to the original Ice Age characters: Jaeuhl, Kaysa, Darien, Disa, Lovisa, etc. (minus direct quotes by Varchild, Lim-Dul, Gustha, and anyone else who was killed in the novels); but also have appearances by Jodah and any new characters introduced from the novel cycle.
I mostly want to see both Jodah and Jaeuhl pop up in flavor. That's probably wishful thinking.
Now I guess I'm just blindly speculating.
I guess the rimewind could be the new society, but I am still lobbying for Marit Lage or Zur. Or, perhaps, the rimewind have a connection with Chaeska and the remains of Lim-Dul's forces. I would appreciate that as well.
I wonder how much story could be deduced through the flavor text, anyway? It will be interesting to see.
So--what does everyone currently think of the setting? I belive it will take place after Alliances (even it if takes place a year after Alliances, just sometime after before all the ice melts).
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Phyrexian Gremlins were just Gremlins on the first plane on Phyrexia... Gate to Phyrexian was mentioned in the Ice Age books... how can this be the old view?
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The continuity of the comics works until Lim-Dul and Leshrac show up to the ruins of Storgard. The only way I can reconcile it (without giving more thought) would be that after Jodah defeated Lim-Dul and Leshrac, the two showed up at the glacer where Szat was waiting, and they all left for Shandalar from there. Not the BEST explanation, but it may work well enough for our purposes.
But as for the short story--props to WotC. I can't say it was a literary masterpiece, but it provided some continuity, so that's cool.
We have Heider Rimewind and his mages who raise Phyrexians and go on a rampage after the fall of Soldev. I wonder how much Arcum Dagsson will play a role in halting the Rimewind mages? We know now that Coldsnap happens, basically, directly after The Shattered Alliance. So, New Argive is currently being formed. Darien is still king of a separate Kjeld.
Using the Orb of Insight, we know that Jodah nor Jaya show up--which means Jaya has ascended and left Dominaria, and Jodah is in hiding (or, that would be my guess given the information we currently have).
I find it shocking that they have reposted the comics. I don't quite know what to make of it . . .
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Oh, I forgot about that. I think it is still possible that Lim-Dul could have fought against the Knights. Obviously not imprisoned, though, nor gained the horns then. I will have to consult my notes on what I thought could have happened...
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We don't need to fit the Earth-story into continuity. It was a promo for another comic line. An ad in the middle of the story.
Squirle--I agree up through 41.
Perhaps their battle with Lim-Dul took place a few years before the events in The Eternal Ice? If so, then we're stuck with the horns not fitting right into the timeline...
I have to go--I'll be back later, hopefully with something helpful.
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a) the Coldsnap page over at wizards has the first of 3 short stories
b) they're posting the ancient Ice Age comics. For one who never saw them, such as myself, this is very cool, even if they are a little hard to read at this size. VERY prerevisionist. I think the scene is set at Strogard, "Four thousand years before the Gathering, by the Reckoning of the Sages of Minorad." Gathering? As in... the Planeswalker War on Corondor, maybe? Oy.
The best theory I've heard to reconcile the two dating systems was Zazdor's theory that the Sages of the Minorad used some extraplanar timescale, which seems plausible as they are largely planeswalkers. So they used shorter years than those of Dominaria itself. It's a wonky solution, but it could reconcile the two sources a bit.
Is "the Gathering" referred to by the Ice Age comic the war on Corondor? or the Summit of the Null Moon? Or has it actually been defined, other than just perhaps being the setting for the core game.
"The Gathering" probably doesn't have a post-revisionist equivalent. It probably signified the time on Dominaria when everything was "gathered" for use by planeswalkers (that is , when Alpha took place, around 4200 A.R.)
That, or it placeheld some great event that was to end the pre-revisionist story, and is lost to time forever. The closest thing we have to that is the Phyrexian invasion.
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Freyalise survived the duel because she ascended. She was a mortal at the opening of the story as far as I recall. We saw her shift from red to green upon ascension. I believe the narration was she was to "walk the emerald planes."
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From my recollection, she didn't know she was to ascend--it just happened. Once ascended, she may have done something similar that Jaya would do later--become formless in the Blind Eternities. Regardless, she left Dominaria for a time. I will have to check that quote by Oriel when I have a moment.
Of course, sometimes in prerevisionist the term "planeswalker" referred to a powerful wizard.
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Looking at the comic, Mariska, wife of Clan Pearl's leader, says:
"It is you who are naive, beloved. The planeswalker Freyalise is first is Miko's eyes . . ."
So, apparently I was mistaken. Although "planeswalker" was used in different ways, this comment seems to indicate she was an actual planeswalker.
Freyalise seems to have ascended previously, though her history in this comic states she came in from the cold as a girl and was raised in Clan Ruby. So, she must still be of a normal mortal's age at this time. Interesting that she stayed in Storgard, and not as a leader beyond a clan leader. Szat also managed to hide well from her.
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It is the third set of Ice Age--to follow Alliances? or to fit between Ice Age and Alliances?
There is still plenty of snow. There is rumor that King Darien of Kjeldor will be a legend, which means this set would take place before Alliances--especially since there is a focus on snow, and the Age of Floods was already beginning by the time of The Shattered Alliance.
That means we should expect more (pre-ascendant) Jaya. I do not expect them to include Jodah in flavor text, though that would be entertaining.
I would like this thread to compile the events at the end of The Eternal Ice and the beginning of The Shattered Alliance. According to prerevisionist material (note: I am referencing unpublished material, that was nodded to in Shattered Alliance), Jaya accompanied Jaeuhl Carthalion and Kaysa to Yavimaya, where they fought off gorillas and a Phyrexian construct brought to life by Yavimaya (as the Phyrexians were later controlled during the Invasion). This was referenced by Jaya when she spoke with Jodah at the opening of Alliance.
Anyway. I will work on provided a summary of this unpublished material shared with me by Jeff Gomez, who was the editor of the Armada comics. If someone could summarize the end of Eternal Ice and the beginning of Shattered Alliance (as I do not have my books with me), let's see what we can come up with as a setting for the Coldsnap set.
(And, as a personal challenge, perhaps I'll do some fanfiction if anyone would be interested in reading what I come up with. But that will be later. First, some research.)
Anyone up for this discovery with me?
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Guess I was wrong, but there are defiently aspects from The Dark that are present in the first book, Which they are including with the Fat Pack for Coldsnap.
So if we're using the books as a guide for the set, the third book would cover Coldsnap. The third book covers a lot of time.
Actually, there's a lot of time unaccounted for between the second and thrid books. Maybe the setting will be there?
I'm thinking though, that because they've said this is the third set in the block, that it should take place after Alliances. If it were to take place before Alliances, it would be the second block in the set.
Here is what the Coldsnap mainpage says:
That means we are somewhere after Lim-Dûl's escape and Freyalise's World-spell. As it is the third set of the block, it would make sense to occur after the events of The Shattered Alliance (yet before the epilogue, as that takes place well after the Flood Age and the Thaw, as it is now referred to as well).
This blurb tells us of a secretive society of mages. We know the School of the Unseen was destroyed, so it can't be Jodah's people. Is Chaeska still around? I know Jaya unsummoned him, but does that mean he was just sent back to Tresserhorn, or was he unmade? We also have the name "Garza Zol, Plague Queen" from the flavor text of a card. Perhaps she replaced Chaeska, or is from elsewhere.
But, there is also the missing Zur, and Marit Lage. Would there be followers from either of these two mages? Or the mages themselves? Zur has history (he was mentioned in passing at least in Eternal Ice), whereas Marit Lage is still a complete mystery to us (other than she is sleeping). With the ice melting, Marit Lage may come out of hiding, and Zur may strike again (he was searching for eternal life, wasn't he?).
There are also the Adnates and such from Soldev, but I wouldn't consider them snow mages. They are more artificers, yes?
So, we have a whole lot of possibilities.
But then there are the locations mentioned, and they all make sense, except Koilos. Well, it's still around, but it wasn't a familiar location from Ice Age or Alliances. Either way, Yavimaya should be added to the list, as that's where we'll find gorillas and elves (as well as the elves from Fyndhorn).
So, it appears we will be looking at Terisiare more than twenty years after the World-spell. I hope WotC didn't get mixed up again and forget how thawed the world should be. Either way, there is still ice, and the forests are growing. Mairsil's threat is gone. Jaya is off as a planeswalker, so I wouldn't imagine seeing her. I would be surprised to see Jodah being added, but I also wouldn't expect to see Jaeuhl Carthalion (or was he used in flavor in Alliances . . . I think he was, so nevermind, he may appear).
My guess is that we will be looking at the unification of Balduvia and Kjeld. Any remaining undead would have to be dealt with. Political machinations would be high. Effects of both the remaining ice and the Thaw would influence everything. The forests would be returning to normal, so wildlife would be in flux (from ice creatures to more new-temperature appropriate inhabitants).
Elder Druid Kaysa and Jaeuhl Carthalion would be settled in Yavimaya, with at least one child by now (this was the original story of Alliances, found in some of the flavor text and the unpublished comic). The Carthalion line has left the rest of the Terisiaran continent. This would be a great thread to pursue.
King Darien and Lovia Coldeyes have to work on creating new government structures and actual communities to unite their people to form New Argive. If there are threats from a secretive society of mages, then there will be difficulties there.
Will Jodah be around to help the situation? I think perhaps he would be trying to slide into the shadows now. He spoke of mammoths (referring originally to planeswalkers). Perhaps he doesn't want to become a non-planeswalker mammoth himself and decided to travel. Or, he chose to sit down and continue to compile history, be an observer. Maybe he even began to further study planeswalkers. We don't know how he later found Urza (and that was only one hundred years after the World-spell, so it's not too far off). Urza also was not on Terisiare, so Jodah may already be on the move.
So . . . what else do you guys think?
Snap would be in between-ish then.
At the moment, I do not have my prerev Alliances notes, but I will post them when I have the chance. Basically, Jaeuhl Carthalion (who banished Szat from Dominaria with the Amulet of Quoz and Freyalise's guidance) and Kaysa (the young "Elder" Druid who married him) bring a group of elves and humans to Yavimaya. Jaya accompanies them as a task mage. They have a conflict with the sentient gorillas there, but it is peaceably resolved. They also fight a Phyrexian beast, under control of the Heart of Yavimaya (if I recall correctly; this is later echoed in the Invasion, when Phyrexians were destroyed by Yavimayan plants I think).
If Phyrexians were always in Yavimaya, the Kavu could have been created beginning back in the time of the Thran. I'm sure that the Brothers' War and the Soldev incident after the World-spell convinced Multani and the Heart of Yavimaya that something needed to be done. I don't expect Kavu in Coldsnap, however. Of course, it may be cool to think that any dinosaurs from the Ice Age were brought underground by the Heart and they bred and evolved to become the Kavu. It depends what was said of the Kavu in the Invasion books. Didn't Multni explain how long they had waited to be released?
I still think this set's story would take place after Alliances (the set and novel). New Argive would actively be being formed, and the story would continue. I don't think they need to place this between Ice Age and Alliances. If it is explained as a state of rebirth, I think twenty years after the Ice Age wuold make sense. The first twenty would be transition, and now the people can work to re-create the land.
As for the "secret school of mages", I have a gnawing feeling that they are something entirely new...maybe the Rimewind necromancers referred in Chilling Shade's flavor text. But it would be coon if we get more info about Marit Lage and her followers.
As for the Soulgorger...It seems that its flavortext was made in the same way as all the pre-Urza's Saga "Phyrexian" cards were...because I think that the Phyrexia we all know and some of us even love was born during the Saga block - the older cards like Phyrexian Gremlins or Gate to Phyrexia are good examples of the "old view of Phyrexia". Fitting to Ice Age block, but weird for us now.
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It could also just be referring to a Priest of Gix, Yawgmoth Priest, or Soldevi Adnate.
At this point with the information given, I believe this will be set after the Alliances card-set, and after the Shattered Alliances novel. The connection between the end of Alliances and use of Ohran creatures is intriguing, and I would love for there to be the Jodah connection (do we know where the Ohran Ridges are? because I don't think it's Terisiare).
I think, to fit with the Ice Age card-set block, they would need to focus on the original premises of the Ice Age story. That would mean we won't be seeing Jodah, and there'd be a greater possibility of more references to Jaeuhl and Kaysa. However, with Jaya's ascendance, they shouldn't keep her around. So--perhaps a synthesis of prerevistions and revisionist? That would be an amazing feat. We would have references to the original Ice Age characters: Jaeuhl, Kaysa, Darien, Disa, Lovisa, etc. (minus direct quotes by Varchild, Lim-Dul, Gustha, and anyone else who was killed in the novels); but also have appearances by Jodah and any new characters introduced from the novel cycle.
I mostly want to see both Jodah and Jaeuhl pop up in flavor. That's probably wishful thinking.
Now I guess I'm just blindly speculating.
I guess the rimewind could be the new society, but I am still lobbying for Marit Lage or Zur. Or, perhaps, the rimewind have a connection with Chaeska and the remains of Lim-Dul's forces. I would appreciate that as well.
I wonder how much story could be deduced through the flavor text, anyway? It will be interesting to see.
So--what does everyone currently think of the setting? I belive it will take place after Alliances (even it if takes place a year after Alliances, just sometime after before all the ice melts).
Interesting....I have always mispronounced Sengir as [sendjir] :).
As for the green mage, I have considered him to be Dagsson at first, but later the ad even featured the year-ago uncovered poster of Kolbjorn.
Good lord, it is good that these things have never seen the light of day :D.
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I got motion sickness after watching that.
Was that guy supposed to be Taysir? If so, why did he need the portal?
To this treasury filled with things of fame
Enter here and steal just one,
And Cursed will be all of your name!
Nope, as far as I know, that should be Tim.
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But as for the short story--props to WotC. I can't say it was a literary masterpiece, but it provided some continuity, so that's cool.
We have Heider Rimewind and his mages who raise Phyrexians and go on a rampage after the fall of Soldev. I wonder how much Arcum Dagsson will play a role in halting the Rimewind mages? We know now that Coldsnap happens, basically, directly after The Shattered Alliance. So, New Argive is currently being formed. Darien is still king of a separate Kjeld.
Using the Orb of Insight, we know that Jodah nor Jaya show up--which means Jaya has ascended and left Dominaria, and Jodah is in hiding (or, that would be my guess given the information we currently have).
I find it shocking that they have reposted the comics. I don't quite know what to make of it . . .
Squirle--I agree up through 41.
Perhaps their battle with Lim-Dul took place a few years before the events in The Eternal Ice? If so, then we're stuck with the horns not fitting right into the timeline...
I have to go--I'll be back later, hopefully with something helpful.
a) the Coldsnap page over at wizards has the first of 3 short stories
b) they're posting the ancient Ice Age comics. For one who never saw them, such as myself, this is very cool, even if they are a little hard to read at this size. VERY prerevisionist. I think the scene is set at Strogard, "Four thousand years before the Gathering, by the Reckoning of the Sages of Minorad." Gathering? As in... the Planeswalker War on Corondor, maybe? Oy.
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Is "the Gathering" referred to by the Ice Age comic the war on Corondor? or the Summit of the Null Moon? Or has it actually been defined, other than just perhaps being the setting for the core game.
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That, or it placeheld some great event that was to end the pre-revisionist story, and is lost to time forever. The closest thing we have to that is the Phyrexian invasion.
Any thoughts?
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Of course, sometimes in prerevisionist the term "planeswalker" referred to a powerful wizard.
"It is you who are naive, beloved. The planeswalker Freyalise is first is Miko's eyes . . ."
So, apparently I was mistaken. Although "planeswalker" was used in different ways, this comment seems to indicate she was an actual planeswalker.
Freyalise seems to have ascended previously, though her history in this comic states she came in from the cold as a girl and was raised in Clan Ruby. So, she must still be of a normal mortal's age at this time. Interesting that she stayed in Storgard, and not as a leader beyond a clan leader. Szat also managed to hide well from her.
Looks to be an editor's error from my first read of it.